Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - March 2013

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RE: Go North East - gtom - 30 Mar 2013

Re-Your Angel comments

Thank you Adam!

Even before Shipcote roadworks began the same problems existed

RE: Go North East - Tom - 30 Mar 2013

Are 506 (X506WRG) and 512 (X512WRG) defiantly in service with Deptford?

RE: Go North East - Dan - 30 Mar 2013

(30 Mar 2013, 7:22 am)W179SCU wrote Are 506 (X506WRG) and 512 (X512WRG) defiantly in service with Deptford?

One has been confirmed - I believe it was 12. Not sure about 06.

RE: Go North East - ... - 30 Mar 2013

506 was out on the 238 on Thursday if i remember rightly.

RE: Go North East - Dan - 30 Mar 2013

(30 Mar 2013, 8:56 am)dans_bus_photos wrote 506 was out on the 238 on Thursday if i remember rightly.

I thought that was 512 :p

RE: Go North East - Adam - 30 Mar 2013

I don't know if anyone else knows, but the price of a Get Around Day ticket increased from £3.50 to £3.65 on Wednesday. Now, I don't recall seeing this advertised anywhere, so how can a bus company sneakily increase prices without telling anyone? Is it allowed?

The single meanwhile is still 90p.

RE: Go North East - citaro5284 - 30 Mar 2013

(30 Mar 2013, 10:52 am)Adam wrote I don't know if anyone else knows, but the price of a Get Around Day ticket increased from £3.50 to £3.65 on Wednesday. Now, I don't recall seeing this advertised anywhere, so how can a bus company sneakily increase prices without telling anyone? Is it allowed?

The single meanwhile is still 90p.

I guess it is allowed, as you can go into a Supermarket for a loaf of bread and it has gone up in price without any warning, so I don't think bus fares are any different.

RE: Go North East - Andreos1 - 30 Mar 2013

(30 Mar 2013, 10:52 am)Adam wrote I don't know if anyone else knows, but the price of a Get Around Day ticket increased from £3.50 to £3.65 on Wednesday. Now, I don't recall seeing this advertised anywhere, so how can a bus company sneakily increase prices without telling anyone? Is it allowed?

The single meanwhile is still 90p.

I seem to recall something similar happening a few weeks back. Customers complained about lack of notice/advertising on the facebook page. GNE stated posters should have been placed on vehicles. It quickly became apparent they hadn't been advertised, just by the number of complaints/queries. A driver then commented how his vehicle and others at that depot had nothing on their vehicles until the morning of the change.

(30 Mar 2013, 11:08 am)citaro5284 wrote
(30 Mar 2013, 10:52 am)Adam wrote I don't know if anyone else knows, but the price of a Get Around Day ticket increased from £3.50 to £3.65 on Wednesday. Now, I don't recall seeing this advertised anywhere, so how can a bus company sneakily increase prices without telling anyone? Is it allowed?

The single meanwhile is still 90p.

I guess it is allowed, as you can go into a Supermarket for a loaf of bread and it has gone up in price without any warning, so I don't think bus fares are any different.

When going to a supermarket, you can decide if you want to buy a product or not and look at alternatives. So, a bus company putting prices up without notice, isnt similar at all.

It goes back to previous comments about how GNE view customers, the feedback they get about services & lack of apparent action, the 'famous 9O odd percent' satisfaction survey and how passengers dont see their travel as being value for money.
How many increases has there been across fares over the last few months?

RE: Go North East - Wellsey18 - 30 Mar 2013

There has been notices on buses, but mainly in the ones that aren't branded because the branded buses have been showing the bus changes in the notice board, whereas unbranded buses have been advertising that prices were to go up in the notice board

Were also in some branded buses that werent having service changes

RE: Go North East - citaro5284 - 30 Mar 2013

(30 Mar 2013, 11:31 am)Andreos1 wrote When going to a supermarket, you can decide if you want to buy a product or not and look at alternatives. So, a bus company putting prices up without notice, isnt similar at all

But a bus company does not force you onto their vehicles. Alternatives are car, walk and taxi and in many places other bus companies and/or metro.

RE: Go North East - Andreos1 - 30 Mar 2013

(30 Mar 2013, 12:09 pm)citaro5284 wrote
(30 Mar 2013, 11:31 am)Andreos1 wrote When going to a supermarket, you can decide if you want to buy a product or not and look at alternatives. So, a bus company putting prices up without notice, isnt similar at all

But a bus company does not force you onto their vehicles. Alternatives are car, walk and taxi and in many places other bus companies and/or metro.

Not everyone has those alternatives unfortunately. A massive part of Tyne & Wear isnt near a metro station and there are very few alternative bus operators away from the City Centres.
Going back to your loaf of bread example - do I get Warburtons, Hovis or the shops own brand? Standing at the bus stop, do I get GNE, GNE, GNE or a taxi?

RE: Go North East - Dan - 30 Mar 2013

I wasn't aware. Go North East claim e-mails were sent out to Get Around card holders - hmm, I didn't receive an e-mail!
I bought one on Tuesday and I'm sure the driver (if he had known himself and was a decent chap which he was) would have said something himself...?

RE: Go North East - Malarkey - 30 Mar 2013

http://www.flickr.com/photos/adammalarkey/8603648596/in/photostream/

GNE East Lancs Loyne sporting an updated version of The Key advertisement

Seen here inside of Chester le Street Depot, I originally thought when passing by on the opposite side of the road it was for the 100 years of Northern but when biking it back home after popping into Chester le Street to take some photos I realised it's a new advert for The Key Card, Overall I think it is way better the current KeyCard Branding, it also seems like GNE have went back to the "Simply Turn Up and Go" slogan also which in my opinion is not a bad idea in my opinion. But slight changed it changed for the KeyCard[/align]

And for those of you who are wondering I was standing in the depot Entrance as you can tell by the zoom, as I know i've been accused of trespassing when in actual fact i've had permission.

RE: Go North East - Adrian - 30 Mar 2013

Buzzfare prices are also up. 3+ zone monthly ticket is now in to three figures, priced at £100. The annual 3+ zone ticket is £1 off being a four figure sum, at £999.

RE: Go North East - Dan - 30 Mar 2013

(30 Mar 2013, 6:35 pm)aureolin wrote Buzzfare prices are also up. 3+ zone monthly ticket is now in to three figures, priced at £100. The annual 3+ zone ticket is £1 off being a four figure sum, at £999.

Ouch - I actually choked on my drink reading that.
Just to think how many bus services are late and such too...

RE: Go North East - Adrian - 30 Mar 2013

(30 Mar 2013, 6:38 pm)Daniel wrote Ouch - I actually choked on my drink reading that.
Just to think how many bus services are late and such too...

Tell me about it. When I first started working in Durham in 2007, I paid £54 a month for a region-wide ticket. So that's almost doubled in 6 years. If only wages had done the same Smile

I used to just go for the two zone ticket when the Buzzfare first came out, but then again, if you need to travel outside of your two zones only 4 times a month, you might as well pay for the full 3+ zone ticket.

RE: Go North East - Wellsey18 - 30 Mar 2013

(30 Mar 2013, 11:09 pm)Adam Malarkey wrote On to different topic, Ian Hignett is just boring now.

This is a small update.

After trip to Chester le Street today on my Bike I decided to take a few photos in the Hour or so I was there.

An East Lancs Loyne has received an Updated KeyCard/Mobile Branding
http://www.flickr.com/photos/adammalarkey/8603648596/in/photostream/

Various Buses have been added to Brands via Set on my Flickr site which include.

Angel Hybrid 6070
http://www.flickr.com/photos/adammalarkey/8603832006/in/photostream/

Pronto 6038/40
http://www.flickr.com/photos/adammalarkey/8602730407/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/adammalarkey/8602730965/in/photostream/

Lime 4901/4853
http://www.flickr.com/photos/adammalarkey/8602731955/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/adammalarkey/8603834518/in/photostream/

Wheyaye50 4930
http://www.flickr.com/photos/adammalarkey/8603833562/in/photostream/

Northern Branded 3883/3889 and 8237
http://www.flickr.com/photos/adammalarkey/8603834970/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/adammalarkey/8602727749/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/adammalarkey/8602729225/in/photostream/

For all other Brands via set visit this link.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/adammalarkey/sets/

This doesn't look familiar at all...... Wonder if any of people on topic would look to arrange their pictures of gne this way?

RE: Go North East - Malarkey - 30 Mar 2013

Obviously you are implying I copied off Daniel, but the thing is loads of bus spotters do it to make photos easier to view.

RE: Go North East - Dan - 31 Mar 2013

(30 Mar 2013, 11:42 pm)Adam Malarkey wrote Obviously you are implying I copied off Daniel, but the thing is loads of bus spotters do it to make photos easier to view.

I've certainly seen other enthusiasts arranging their photos into sets, but I must say that arranging Go North East photos by brand was something unique to me. Arranging by set is not only organised, but clever too, allowing followers of an individual's photostream to access photos they want to see with more ease.

The closest to my Go North East: "Buses By Brand" project (having now gone through a few of my contacts' sets and collections) is Chris White's "Go North East Brands" set on Flickr. That set features ONE example of each current brand from Go North East.
My idea is totally different in that sense, as I intend to have each individual vehicle that belongs to a brand.

Several other enthusiasts have contacted me since I started publicly speaking about my various collections and sets on the public domain, asking can they do the same thing as me, because they thought it would be rude to just copy the sets directly.

l - Michael - 31 Mar 2013

5245 was on the X66 yesterday.

what is happening with 5151 - 5166 (all 12 of them), are they still getting branded for the 17.

Is the Omi's is getting branded at Percy main - 5243 - 5249 and 5274.

RE: Go North East - Dan - 31 Mar 2013

(31 Mar 2013, 11:08 am)Michael wrote 5245 was on the X66 yesterday.

what is happening with 5151 - 5166 (all 12 of them), are they still getting branded for the 17.

Is the Omi's is getting branded at Percy main - 5243 - 5249 and 5274.

Renowns for the 17 are due to be branded soon I'm led to believe - no details on the brand name have been given to me yet.

Omnicity 5243-6 are to be branded for the service 19, under the new brand name of "Connect Cobalt".
I assume the ones destined for service 9 will also be branded, given that the PVR has seen an increase.

RE: Go North East - Michael - 31 Mar 2013

Cheers
The name seems decent for the 19 even though it should be.. Cobalt Connect but we know what GNE is like..

Wonder what the brand will be for the 17, what are peoples ideas for names?

252 operated by Durham CC - tyresmoke - 31 Mar 2013

Former service 252 is now being operated by Durham CC (with one trip operated by Central Coaches) - timetable here: http://durham.pindarcreative.co.uk/tt/252_DCC.pdf

RE: Go North East - korn90 - 31 Mar 2013

(31 Mar 2013, 11:19 am)Michael wrote Cheers
The name seems decent for the 19 even though it should be.. Cobalt Connect but we know what GNE is like..

Wonder what the brand will be for the 17, what are peoples ideas for names?

Yellow Submarine for 17/17A i would have called it or The Rising Sun wouldnt be surprised

RE: Go North East - Malarkey - 31 Mar 2013

I've mine set up for months now like that, I just haven't had much time or the money to go out and take photos of specific brands, I personally not a big fan of people of who make accusations of copying as they can be quite offensive as you and Daniel have both experienced in recent weeks. The way I see it is simple and easier way to display my photos, just like you do with yours, Yeah mine maybe set out similar to yours Daniel but it was other users layout of sets which lead me setting mine out in such a way.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/adammalarkey/sets/72157633115017137/
Some photos have been added from today after I biked it from Washington to Heworth in aid of keeping myself fit.

6011 and 3885 were the GNE Buses I seen on the X901

http://www.flickr.com/photos/adammalarkey/8606821380/in/set-72157633115017137/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/adammalarkey/8606820740/in/set-72157633115017137/

Also 6047 has been added to Tyne Tees Xpress Set.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/adammalarkey/8606821918/in/photostream/

RE: Go North East - gtom - 31 Mar 2013

Unless you developed Pixelmania, Flickr, Fotopic etc then you have no claims to how one should display photos!

Lot's of sites are similar in layout, simplybusphotos ages ago did a layout like that.

When I was younger photography wasn't digital, people organised photos by collection in albums, all your Leyland Atlanteans for one company in one file, nationals in another. Everyone did it, hardly copying.

The whole argument is typical of why I tend to stay away from photos and displaying my old collections (including model collections) because I can't be bothered with the back biting of some enthusiasts

Does it really matter as long as someone, somewhere can enjoy and share your photos? It personally doesn't bother me to know when a bus was bought, what it operates on, what its fleet number is, I just appreciate a good photo.

RE: Go North East - Malarkey - 31 Mar 2013

I totally agree gtomlinson, I'm personally sick of these little keyboard warrior think they no it all but know jack sh** passing judgement on myself for the quality of my photos, telling me I need a new camera when I have recently just bought one a few months back. Then on top of that you have crying bitching and moaning over you copying someone elses layout of photos.

I take photos to share my love for buses with others, not for the sake of the above which hacks me off and they wonder why I give them such a grilling at times.

Overall i'm 20 years old, i'm an adult who keeps himself to himself to avoid the above altercations, but if you insult me or the photos I take I'm just going sit there and nothing i'm tell how it is, if they don't like it tough in my opinion.

This is why now we have people like yourself gtomlinson who are unwilling to share there photos with others because the above which is great shame if i'm honest, because no doubt you some truely fantastic photos past and present which in turn provide some great memories for some enthusiasts like myself.

RE: Go North East - gtom - 31 Mar 2013

Exactly.

I enjoy your photos and others. Here's why

I like photos of buses as a vehicle.
I like photos of my local area

That's it. I don't care how many pixels, where it was taken from, whether a bus driver let me into a depot, who else was involved...it's just a photo!

I mean, my phone, a Galaxy S3 has 8 mega pixels, pretty much better than the camera I took on my first foreign holiday! It does a job. It might not win a competition but it does a job and my friends/family can see the photos I've taken pretty clearly!

But your spot on, it is a shame, I won't share my photos because I've been burned at rallys when an enthusiast took exception to my photo of an OK Mini bus covering a breakdown on the 724 with 'there's a glint of sun covering the axle'.....

I mean really?

RE: Go North East - Michael - 31 Mar 2013

I wonder, anyone on the forum not from the North east, if so what do you think of the idea to brand buses with different names, does it stand out for visitors?

Only asking because Daniel uploaded a picture of the Man united Coach, i was wondering what they thought when they seen a FAB 56 or a Simplicity.