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RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - July 2015 - jaimzm - 31 Jul 2015
(31 Jul 2015, 3:36 pm)cbma06 wrote GNE peterlee depot in the red box which is shared with East Durham Community Transport and the old Arriva peterlee depot in the green box.
Thank you bud is anything left at old arriva depot
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - July 2015 - R852 PRG - 31 Jul 2015
I really hope Go North East opt for the Enviro400MMC, over the Streetdeck. It was just so much better in every aspect when I had a ride on it the other week. However, with prices and fuel in mind...
Anyway, seeing as the E400MMC has moved on to it's next operator - can somebody remind me where it has go'd?
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - July 2015 - pdiddy - 31 Jul 2015
(31 Jul 2015, 4:02 pm)citaro5284 wrote And I know which one I am putting my money on
I think I'd put my money on the same as you Citaro5284
Although it could cost me a few pints off Mr H, as I've bet him it's the other ?
Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - July 2015 - cbma06 - 31 Jul 2015
(31 Jul 2015, 4:07 pm)jaimzm wrote Thank you bud is anything left at old arriva depot
I think a lorry firm are using it now, it's been awhile since been on the industrial estate
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - July 2015 - omnicity4659 - 31 Jul 2015
(31 Jul 2015, 4:04 pm)Michael wrote No doubt GNE will of gone with the Streetdecker....
I can confirm that GNE haven't gone with the Streetdecker, but they may be considering the StreetDeck
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - July 2015 - S813 FVK - 31 Jul 2015
3942 has exited Saltmeadows in the corporate livery and was on TEN service 10B today:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/nebp2/20148413966/in/dateposted/
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - July 2015 - L469 YVK - 31 Jul 2015
If GNE went for the Streetdeck or E400MMC, these would be the pros and cons:
E400MMC pros:
- Robust, fairly reliable, good life span if well looked after, excellent bodywork, excellent interior and comfort, good support from ADL, reasonably fuel efficient, easy to maintain, powerful, can cope with most challenging routes, good R&D gone into the vehicle and far better than the legacy Dennis Trident 2 products including the classic E400 and good support from Cummins owing to the Streetlite despite the different engine.
E400MMC cons:
- Frosty relationship with ADL, previous stick from the 1999/2000 batch of Lolynes, new engine type being introduced.
Streetdeck pros:
- 'Supposedly' Fuel efficient, some commonality with some of the fleet that Go North East have, good relationship with Wrightbus, experience of Mercedes Engines through other vehicles.
Streetdeck cons:
- Cheap and tacky, underpowered, won't be able to cope with challenging routes as well, will burn more fuel in the long term due to the higher RPM, interior and comfort nowhere near E400MMC (even in bog spec), smaller wheels, doesn't hold the road as well, new engine type being introduced, more breakdowns, risk of competition (Arriva X2), poor reputation for reliability, higher spare vehicle ratio required, shorter life span particularly for challenging routes and most importantly, unhappy drivers and passengers.
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - July 2015 - citaro5284 - 31 Jul 2015
Remember thou, if GNE bought the MMC, it would not have the same interior as the demo, so the inside will probably be the same in both vehicles.
Also, you say underpowered.......I dont think the Streetdeck has been running late due to a fault of its own.....other factors like Pride March maybe.
The Daimler engine is now in quite a few vehicles, so maybe a new engine, but it is tried and tested, also, how do you know it has a poor reputation for reliability....fancy telling that to Mercedes, they would probably laugh in your face.
Can you explain how it would burn more fuel as a quick look, I know which one uses the most fuel.......
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - July 2015 - Jimmi - 31 Jul 2015
(31 Jul 2015, 4:48 pm)citaro5284 wrote Also, you say underpowered.......I dont think the Streetdeck has been running late due to a fault of its own.....other factors like Pride March maybe.
Other than the other Saturday when it was completely unable to get into Newcastle due to road closures because of the Pride Parade and the driver was having problems trying to remember how to start it again in Bishop Auckland Bus Station it has been pretty much on-time everytime I've seen it on the X21.
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - July 2015 - BusLoverMum - 31 Jul 2015
(31 Jul 2015, 4:08 pm)R852 PRG wrote I really hope Go North East opt for the Enviro400MMC, over the Streetdeck. It was just so much better in every aspect when I had a ride on it the other week. However, with prices and fuel in mind...
Anyway, seeing as the E400MMC has moved on to it's next operator - can somebody remind me where it has go'd?
Ipswich
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - July 2015 - S813 FVK - 31 Jul 2015
(31 Jul 2015, 4:08 pm)R852 PRG wrote I really hope Go North East opt for the Enviro400MMC, over the Streetdeck. It was just so much better in every aspect when I had a ride on it the other week. However, with prices and fuel in mind...
Anyway, seeing as the E400MMC has moved on to it's next operator - can somebody remind me where it has go'd?
You will never let that go now
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - July 2015 - Dan - 31 Jul 2015
(31 Jul 2015, 4:08 pm)R852 PRG wrote I really hope Go North East opt for the Enviro400MMC, over the Streetdeck. It was just so much better in every aspect when I had a ride on it the other week. However, with prices and fuel in mind...
Anyway, seeing as the E400MMC has moved on to it's next operator - can somebody remind me where it has go'd?
(31 Jul 2015, 5:39 pm)S813 FVK wrote You will never let that go now
..and rightly so!
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - July 2015 - omnicity4659 - 31 Jul 2015
It go'd to Ipswich Buses - https://www.flickr.com/photos/86020500@N06/19550446863/in/photolist-vMB9J4-saHAKK-r2M8Bc-rngWUH-s97vM5-vTyEia-rniN2r-rj9hAB-vXRvrS-qnnRyH-pgM26h-s6g5T6-spygmT-rp7XCT-qXqZxe-w8zErY-r7nACL-reKkdr-r2AVdN-qdLiTZ-v227gb-vTiKXX-w9gyLV-qcfng4-q1vxub-rcACVL-rBMcY8-rBTNhq-r9EQ8p-r2BJV3-pmjmii-vXpy5W-rFAhgs-vNQTjP-uYv9a8-r2HYri-rj3pVz-vYqSTi-r9Pp4K-vVHDTu-vHGQFQ-v225Uo-qRu5eQ-qhTeMo-vFwiQT-qS75eh-qXtYvo-qRBSQP-qnnNnx-tus7hJ
I wonder who forgot to remove something vital from the bus
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - July 2015 - S813 FVK - 31 Jul 2015
(31 Jul 2015, 5:51 pm)Dan wrote ..and rightly so!
Hehe. Was certainly a stupid mistake.
The only thing that worries me is that people will start to take advantage of it and then incorporate it into their posts whenever there is the opportunity to do so. I think it may have already started...
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - July 2015 - Diamond One - 31 Jul 2015
(31 Jul 2015, 2:11 pm)Michael wrote Quaylink celebration event in Newcastle - Monday 3 August
http://www.simplygo.com/news/quaylink-celebration-event-in-newcastle-monday-3-august
Already knew 24 hours ago but I didn't bother to tell anyone only 2 people know Paul and anth
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - July 2015 - Dan - 31 Jul 2015
(31 Jul 2015, 6:23 pm)Diamond One wrote Already knew 24 hours ago but I didn't bother to tell anyone only 2 people know Paul and anth
Already knew three weeks ago - but I didn't bother to tell anyone other than one person I know: citaro5284.
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - July 2015 - Michael - 31 Jul 2015
(31 Jul 2015, 6:23 pm)Diamond One wrote Already knew 24 hours ago but I didn't bother to tell anyone only 2 people know Paul and anth
Good 4 u, how did u find out before it was posted? :p
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - July 2015 - R852 PRG - 31 Jul 2015
(31 Jul 2015, 6:26 pm)Dan wrote Already knew three weeks ago - but I didn't bother to tell anyone other than one person I know: citaro5284.
I see where we stand, Dan.
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - July 2015 - JP6004 - 31 Jul 2015
(31 Jul 2015, 6:26 pm)Dan wrote Already knew three weeks ago - but I didn't bother to tell anyone other than one person I know: citaro5284.
U made me giggle hehe
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - July 2015 - Dan - 31 Jul 2015
(31 Jul 2015, 6:29 pm)JP6004 wrote U made me giggle hehe
I aim to please!
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - July 2015 - omnicity4659 - 31 Jul 2015
(31 Jul 2015, 6:29 pm)Dan wrote I aim to please!
You probably knew about it as their your photos that GNE would have had to tell you about what they'll be used for
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - July 2015 - Bob - 31 Jul 2015
(30 Jul 2015, 10:25 am)Dan wrote Quite funny you mention Quality Contacts, actually, citaro5284... Looking at the facts and figures; if it's deemed expensive now, it's going to remain expensive under a Quality Contracts Scheme...
I believe a number of those in support of Quality Contracts have suggested one of the reasons behind this is related to pricing strategies.
Under a Quality Contracts Scheme, Nexus proposes that a journey between Birtley and Gateshead would cover three zones (A, B and C). In 2012, Nexus proposed that a single fare on one mode of transport would cost £2.50. An inflation calculator would suggest that £2.50 in 2012 is now worth £2.72. One would therefore suggest that the fare, under Quality Contracts, would either be £2.70, £2.75 or £2.80 (pretty damn close to the present fare of £2.80!)
Sources:
- Nexus Quality Contracts Scheme Proposals: http://www.nexus.org.uk/sites/default/files/QCS%20Proposal%20130709%20-%20FINAL%20%28PAMELA%29%202_0.pdf
- Section 4.6.3 - Zones
- Section 4.6.4 - Adult Pricing
- Inflation Calculator: http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/bills/article-1633409/Historic-inflation-calculator-value-money-changed-1900.html
Dan - Birtley to Gateshead on the QCS fare scheme would only be two zones (B + C). The boundary of zone A/B was moved in the Supplemental Consultation and then remained like this in the final Scheme submitted to the NECA in October 2014. Gateshead Interchange is therefore now in zones A and B (zone B for the purpose of your example above).
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - July 2015 - LeeCalder - 31 Jul 2015
(31 Jul 2015, 6:27 pm)Michael wrote Good 4 u, how did u find out before it was posted? :p
He claimes a driver he knows very well (Having been on his bus once) told him.