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RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2 - DH9 - 23 Dec 2019

(23 Dec 2019, 12:07 am)Jamie M Why X31 to consett when you already have that section served by the X70 and X71?

Because sending X31 rather than the X30 through to Consett would restore direct links to Gatedshead and Team Valley to Annfield Plain, New Kyo and Catchgate.

That's infinitely more useful than Whickham and Dunston, links already covered by service 6.


RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2 - Stanleyone - 23 Dec 2019

(22 Dec 2019, 11:17 pm)DH9 The Stanley changes look interesting.  Clearly, M6 and M8 are truncated to Stanley and Metrocentre only.  It's a shame as the M8 was a cleaner way of travelling between Annfield Plain and the Metrocentre than the 6.  I'm guessing the 32 will finish an hour earlier in the afternoon than the M8 does with its Annfield Plain extension due to lower afternoon passenger numbers.

New 32 appears to be the M8 extension to Annfield Plain made stand alone.  Unless theres something I'm missing, it would be probably more economical to send every second 16 into Fines Park (buses can do the route).  Given the 16 in both directions stands a Stanley for 5 minutes, there' scope to do this.

The M6 extension to Lanchester reverts to being the 30.  As this is hourly, this leaves Quaking Houses at one bus per hour for first time in years.  Again, I may be missing something.

If M7 continues to be an East Stanley only service, the numbering becomes anomalous.

I hope the unreliability of the 6 is sorted out.

One change that has not happened and I'd have liked to have seen is it being the X31 and not the X30 continue hourly to Consett.  The X31 makes more sense from a commuting point of view on accessing Gateshead and the Team Valley.from Annfield Plain.  The two X32 journeys in each direction should definitely be extended, which would have restored a direct link between Consett and the southern end of the Team Valley lost with the 2007 withdrawal of the 934.

I'm hoping also the short 6 on a morning from Flint Hill to Stanley has its guaranteed link with the 7.10 am X32 restored.  That was personally very useful to me.
30 will continue as is now, 1 hourly to Lanchester and 1 hourly to Quaking Houses, 31 will be the current M7 and 32 will be the current M8 all interworking. X31 won’t replace the X30 simply because of the driver change overs at Consett, X30 and X70/X71 arrive within minutes of each other at Sunniside I’d anyone wants Gateshead from the places you mentioned, in my opinion not that many make the connection (if any) most I would think will catch the 16 and wait the 7/8 mins at Stanley.


RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2 - DH9 - 23 Dec 2019

(23 Dec 2019, 5:04 am)Stanleyone 30 will continue as is now, 1 hourly to Lanchester and 1 hourly to Quaking Houses, 31 will be the current M7 and 32 will be the current M8 all interworking. X31 won’t replace the X30 simply because of the driver change overs at Consett, X30 and X70/X71 arrive within minutes of each other at Sunniside I’d anyone wants Gateshead from the places you mentioned, in my opinion not that many make the connection (if any) most I would think will catch the 16 and wait the 7/8 mins at Stanley.

Cheer and thanks for clearing it all up.

The discussion was focussing upon the 309 / 310 / 311 changes and the Stanley changes were left a little neglected.   That's been rectified now.

I have used the coincidence in timings between X30 and X70/71 to my advantage in the past at Sunniside though it just takes either to be slightly late for that connection to fail.


RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2 - Michael - 23 Dec 2019

Does anyone know what the changes is to the 8?, i use this regular to get to work.


RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2 - ASX_Terranova - 24 Dec 2019

Any Idea about 4,8 and 50.
As a Washington lad any major Changes would be good to know about


Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2 - streetdeckfan - 24 Dec 2019

Heard from a driver today that with the X21 being extended to West, there will be no waiting time in Bishop anymore, I guess some of the drivers won't be pleased as they won't have time for a smoke!

I guess that also means that the northbound services will become even more unreliable as they won't have that 10-20 minute buffer anymore

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RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2 - S813 FVK - 24 Dec 2019

(24 Dec 2019, 12:54 pm)ASX_Terranova Any Idea about 4,8 and 50.
As a Washington lad any major Changes would be good to know about

I'm sure Go North East will publish them all in good time once New Year is out the way.


RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2 - Michael - 26 Dec 2019

(24 Dec 2019, 12:54 pm)ASX_Terranova Any Idea about 4,8 and 50.
As a Washington lad any major Changes would be good to know about

4: Operating between Houghton-Le-Spring, The Broadway and Heworth Interchange given service number 4 / effective from 26 January 2020. To amend Timetable.

8: Operating between Stanley, Bus Station and Sunderland, Park Lane Interchange given service number 8 / 8A effective from 26 January 2020. To amend Timetable.

50: Operating between Durham Bus Station and South Shields Interchange given service number 50 / 50A effective from 26 January 2020. To amend Timetable.


https://bustimes.org/licences/PB0003954

Just click on the service you want.



(24 Dec 2019, 3:19 pm)S813 FVK I'm sure Go North East will publish them all in good time once New Year is out the way.

Hopefully in the next few days.


RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2 - S813 FVK - 27 Dec 2019

(26 Dec 2019, 1:07 pm)Michael Hopefully in the next few days.

As an FYI to the above: the basic format timetables are now on the GNE website.

M7 back to Metrocentre, partially replacing the 197 around Whickham.


RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2 - Michael - 27 Dec 2019

Looks like the 21, will still run every 7 minutes between Newcastle and Chester, but only half a hour between Chester and Durham, working with the X21 -


Both from Chester:

21: 50 and 20
X21 - 43 58 13 28


So it provides a service of every 7/8 mins, between Chester and Durham... 13, 20, 28, 43, 50 and 58


RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2 - JP6004 - 27 Dec 2019

(27 Dec 2019, 2:29 pm)S813 FVK As an FYI to the above: the basic format timetables are now on the GNE website.
Seems like 4 reduced to 12mins on a Saturday.
21 timetable seems strange....same frequency as now but only 2 services continuing to Durham, rest terminating at chester.
Still think they should of had 21 every 15mins to Durham and X21 every 15mins and removed the chester shorts


Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2 - cbma06 - 27 Dec 2019

(27 Dec 2019, 2:49 pm)Michael Looks like the 21, will still run every 7 minutes between Newcastle and Chester, but only half a hour between Chester and Durham, working with the X21 -


Both from Chester:

21: 50 and 20
X21 - 43 58 13 28


So it provides a service of every 7/8 mins, between Chester and Durham... 13, 20, 28, 43, 50 and 58


Wonder if any angels be going into xlines?


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RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2 - JP6004 - 27 Dec 2019

(27 Dec 2019, 2:59 pm)cbma06 Wonder if any angels be going into xlines?


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Most probably


RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2 - Michael - 27 Dec 2019

Looks like:

309 - Every 20 minutes - Newcastle to Bylth
310 - Every 20 minutes - Newcastle to North Shields
311 - Every 20 minutes - Newcastle to Hadrian Park

Combines for a service between Newcastle Haymarket and Battle Hill Berwick Drive every 6/7 minutes.


RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2 - Jimmi - 27 Dec 2019

(27 Dec 2019, 2:55 pm)JP6004 21 timetable seems strange....same frequency as now but only 2 services continuing to Durham, rest terminating at chester.
Still think they should of had 21 every 15mins to Durham and X21 every 15mins and removed the chester shorts

Problem with that idea is Chester - Newcastle is the busier end of the route so would be daft to cut the frequency of that section of the route.

More people tend to opt for X21 if travelling further than Chester-le-Street so makes sense to increase that in my eyes, only downside is those in Birtley and some stops in Low Fell now being cut to half hourly to/from Durham, would imagine they'll have the X21 observing all stops between Durham and Chester to make up for the loss of the 21.


RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2 - streetdeckfan - 27 Dec 2019

(27 Dec 2019, 3:11 pm)Jimmi Problem with that idea is Chester - Newcastle is the busier end of the route so would be daft to cut the frequency of that section of the route.

More people tend to opt for X21 if travelling further than Chester-le-Street so makes sense to increase that in my eyes, only downside is those in Birtley and some stops in Low Fell now being cut to half hourly to/from Durham, would imagine they'll have the X21 observing all stops between Durham and Chester to make up for the loss of the 21.
This is exactly what I would have done. I personally think the full 21 is a fairly pointless route, like you said, anybody wanting to travel to Durham will pick the X21, it's considerably faster!

It's also great to see the X21 will be running the full route further into the evening again, it was absolutely ridiculous that the last service to Tindale left Newcastle at 3pm, useless for anyone who is using it to commute!

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RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2 - L469 YVK - 27 Dec 2019

Looking at the evening 309/310/311 services, I'm surprised GNE (although a good decision) have went with a 20 minute frequency between Newcastle and Battle Hill with the 310 no longer serving Hadrian Park with the 311 running at xx:25.

Have passengers on the 310 complained about the extra 5 mins or so it takes to run via Hadrian Park?


RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2 - Stanleyone - 27 Dec 2019

(27 Dec 2019, 3:11 pm)Jimmi Problem with that idea is Chester - Newcastle is the busier end of the route so would be daft to cut the frequency of that section of the route.

More people tend to opt for X21 if travelling further than Chester-le-Street so makes sense to increase that in my eyes, only downside is those in Birtley and some stops in Low Fell now being cut to half hourly to/from Durham, would imagine they'll have the X21 observing all stops between Durham and Chester to make up for the loss of the 21.
I believe that is the case with X21 serving all stops south of CLS, probably now opening the discussion about true express services.


RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2 - streetdeckfan - 27 Dec 2019

(27 Dec 2019, 3:22 pm)Stanleyone I believe that is the case with X21 serving all stops south of CLS, probably now opening the discussion about true express services.
Well, I'm glad someone else brought that up so Dan can't complain that it was me this time!


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RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2 - Dan - 27 Dec 2019

(27 Dec 2019, 3:29 pm)streetdeckfan Well, I'm glad someone else brought that up so Dan can't complain that it was me this time!

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I'd imagine that was a tongue in cheek remark in reference to your previous moans, rather than raising it himself!