28th January 2024 changes
28th January 2024 changes
(22 Dec 2023, 4:07 pm)F114TML Enthusiast foam
(22 Dec 2023, 4:07 pm)F114TML Enthusiast foam
(22 Dec 2023, 5:52 pm)L469 YVK Realistically, branding needs to go IMO. Serves no purpose especially in the current climate.
Only routes that really need branded........
- XLines - Generic - Express buses across the North East
X10, X21, X30, X31
- CityLink
21, 56
- CoastCityLinks (in conjunction with Arriva)
306, 307, 308, 309
- CityConnect
Q3, 53, 54
Rest can go IMO including the X45 going back to 45 and 47 becoming the 46.
(22 Dec 2023, 5:52 pm)L469 YVK Realistically, branding needs to go IMO. Serves no purpose especially in the current climate.
Only routes that really need branded........
- XLines - Generic - Express buses across the North East
X10, X21, X30, X31
- CityLink
21, 56
- CoastCityLinks (in conjunction with Arriva)
306, 307, 308, 309
- CityConnect
Q3, 53, 54
Rest can go IMO including the X45 going back to 45 and 47 becoming the 46.
(21 Dec 2023, 9:58 pm)Unber43 I think the X20 will be Sunderland - Barnes - Bede - Prospect - Bored Inn - NON STOP - Houghton - NON STOP - Durham
(21 Dec 2023, 9:58 pm)Unber43 I think the X20 will be Sunderland - Barnes - Bede - Prospect - Bored Inn - NON STOP - Houghton - NON STOP - Durham
(23 Dec 2023, 2:26 pm)Aaron21 Can't wait to read "With funding from Nexus & The BSIP" we will be bringing back the X20.
(23 Dec 2023, 2:52 pm)Dan Isn’t that the purpose of the Bus Service Improvement Plan?
(23 Dec 2023, 2:52 pm)Dan Isn’t that the purpose of the Bus Service Improvement Plan?
(23 Dec 2023, 2:52 pm)Dan Isn’t that the purpose of the Bus Service Improvement Plan?
I didn’t see you make this comment about Stagecoach’s X24/X34, or Arriva’s X16?
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(23 Dec 2023, 2:52 pm)Dan Isn’t that the purpose of the Bus Service Improvement Plan?
I didn’t see you make this comment about Stagecoach’s X24/X34, or Arriva’s X16?
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(23 Dec 2023, 3:26 pm)DeltaMan Some would say the difference is that Stagecoach aren't using public money to restore something that was previously a commercial service. It is a genuine improvement.
Whereas in the examples given, it *APPEARS* that Arriva and GNE are wanting to use public money to pay for services which were clearly commercial before they were reduced for staffing reasons.
It might be allowed by the letter of BSIP. But I don't think it's within the spirit of it, personally.
(23 Dec 2023, 3:26 pm)DeltaMan Some would say the difference is that Stagecoach aren't using public money to restore something that was previously a commercial service. It is a genuine improvement.
Whereas in the examples given, it *APPEARS* that Arriva and GNE are wanting to use public money to pay for services which were clearly commercial before they were reduced for staffing reasons.
It might be allowed by the letter of BSIP. But I don't think it's within the spirit of it, personally.
(23 Dec 2023, 2:52 pm)Dan Isn’t that the purpose of the Bus Service Improvement Plan?
I didn’t see you make this comment about Stagecoach’s X24/X34, or Arriva’s X16?
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(23 Dec 2023, 2:52 pm)Dan Isn’t that the purpose of the Bus Service Improvement Plan?
I didn’t see you make this comment about Stagecoach’s X24/X34, or Arriva’s X16?
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(23 Dec 2023, 3:55 pm)Aaron21 Because there actually useful. What's wrong with the 20 to Langley Park alongside the 20A (of which changes have just been done for it)
If the 20A is withdrawn. We'll gne already wasting the money as mentioned here in changes for November
Prince Bishops 20 | 20A
In partnership with Nexus and with financial support from the Government’s Bus Service Improvement Plan, these services will be increased to run every 30 minutes between Sunderland and Durham on evenings. Once per hour, these will be numbered as a 20, and once per hour as service 20A.
This means that, on Monday to Saturday evenings, we will be introducing later journeys to Chilton Moor and Rainton Bridge.
(23 Dec 2023, 3:55 pm)Aaron21 Because there actually useful. What's wrong with the 20 to Langley Park alongside the 20A (of which changes have just been done for it)
If the 20A is withdrawn. We'll gne already wasting the money as mentioned here in changes for November
Prince Bishops 20 | 20A
In partnership with Nexus and with financial support from the Government’s Bus Service Improvement Plan, these services will be increased to run every 30 minutes between Sunderland and Durham on evenings. Once per hour, these will be numbered as a 20, and once per hour as service 20A.
This means that, on Monday to Saturday evenings, we will be introducing later journeys to Chilton Moor and Rainton Bridge.
(23 Dec 2023, 4:19 pm)Dan Out of interest, why do you think a faster bus between Sunderland and Newcastle on Sundays is useful, and a fast bus between Newcastle and Morpeth useful, but not a faster bus between Sunderland and Durham?
What makes those two corridors more important for a fast link than Sunderland to Durham?
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(23 Dec 2023, 4:19 pm)Dan Out of interest, why do you think a faster bus between Sunderland and Newcastle on Sundays is useful, and a fast bus between Newcastle and Morpeth useful, but not a faster bus between Sunderland and Durham?
What makes those two corridors more important for a fast link than Sunderland to Durham?
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(16 Dec 2023, 4:02 pm)Storx Tenders for the Q3 and 35 are renewed in March 2024.
(16 Dec 2023, 4:02 pm)Storx Tenders for the Q3 and 35 are renewed in March 2024.
(23 Dec 2023, 3:55 pm)Aaron21 Because there actually useful. What's wrong with the 20 to Langley Park alongside the 20A (of which changes have just been done for it)They already run on an evening as 20A
If the 20A is withdrawn. We'll gne already wasting the money as mentioned here in changes for November
Prince Bishops 20 | 20A
In partnership with Nexus and with financial support from the Government’s Bus Service Improvement Plan, these services will be increased to run every 30 minutes between Sunderland and Durham on evenings. Once per hour, these will be numbered as a 20, and once per hour as service 20A.
This means that, on Monday to Saturday evenings, we will be introducing later journeys to Chilton Moor and Rainton Bridge.
(23 Dec 2023, 3:55 pm)Aaron21 Because there actually useful. What's wrong with the 20 to Langley Park alongside the 20A (of which changes have just been done for it)They already run on an evening as 20A
If the 20A is withdrawn. We'll gne already wasting the money as mentioned here in changes for November
Prince Bishops 20 | 20A
In partnership with Nexus and with financial support from the Government’s Bus Service Improvement Plan, these services will be increased to run every 30 minutes between Sunderland and Durham on evenings. Once per hour, these will be numbered as a 20, and once per hour as service 20A.
This means that, on Monday to Saturday evenings, we will be introducing later journeys to Chilton Moor and Rainton Bridge.
(23 Dec 2023, 3:44 pm)Dan I’d say the restoration of the Arriva X16 and Go North East X20 services are genuine improvements based on the “current” network.
Local Authorities have strict subsidy control rules and strict governance policies, so can’t give out the money willy-nilly. They are ultimately responsible for whether a scheme goes ahead or not, and work in partnership with operators to deliver these.
At the same time, Local Authorities are also introducing new services - the 777 is a Northumberland County Council tender (won by Arriva), and Nexus have a similar tender live at the moment (not yet awarded to any operator).
Both combined - with more affordable fares - is a wise use of the BSIP funding.
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(23 Dec 2023, 3:44 pm)Dan I’d say the restoration of the Arriva X16 and Go North East X20 services are genuine improvements based on the “current” network.
Local Authorities have strict subsidy control rules and strict governance policies, so can’t give out the money willy-nilly. They are ultimately responsible for whether a scheme goes ahead or not, and work in partnership with operators to deliver these.
At the same time, Local Authorities are also introducing new services - the 777 is a Northumberland County Council tender (won by Arriva), and Nexus have a similar tender live at the moment (not yet awarded to any operator).
Both combined - with more affordable fares - is a wise use of the BSIP funding.
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(23 Dec 2023, 7:24 pm)Andreos1 Welcome back Daniel.
What about the Metrocentre P&R. Is that a wise use?
(23 Dec 2023, 7:24 pm)Andreos1 Welcome back Daniel.
What about the Metrocentre P&R. Is that a wise use?
(23 Dec 2023, 7:51 pm)Dan Is there going to be a dedicated service, or has it been over-hyped in the media and is merely existing services calling at the coach park after they leave the interchange?
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(23 Dec 2023, 7:51 pm)Dan Is there going to be a dedicated service, or has it been over-hyped in the media and is merely existing services calling at the coach park after they leave the interchange?
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(23 Dec 2023, 7:51 pm)Dan Is there going to be a dedicated service, or has it been over-hyped in the media and is merely existing services calling at the coach park after they leave the interchange?
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(23 Dec 2023, 7:51 pm)Dan Is there going to be a dedicated service, or has it been over-hyped in the media and is merely existing services calling at the coach park after they leave the interchange?
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