Changes for 28th January 2024


PB0003954/1209
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 47 (47) Consett Newcastle

PB0003954/649
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 12 (12) Winlaton Newcastle

PB0003954/1102
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED X30 (X31, X30) Stanley Newcastle

PB0003954/364
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED X71 (X71, X72) Stanley Newcastle

PB0003954/1251
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 6 (6) Lanchester Newcastle

PB0003954/367
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED X45 (X45) Newcastle Consett

PB0003954/689
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 74 (74) Hexham Newcastle
PB0000328/560

(15 Dec 2023, 4:47 pm)Michael wrote Changes for 28th January 2024


PB0003954/1209
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 47 (47) Consett Newcastle

PB0003954/649
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 12 (12) Winlaton Newcastle

PB0003954/1102
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED X30 (X31, X30) Stanley Newcastle

PB0003954/364
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED X71 (X71, X72) Stanley Newcastle

PB0003954/1251
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 6 (6) Lanchester Newcastle

PB0003954/367
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED X45 (X45) Newcastle Consett

PB0003954/689
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 74 (74) Hexham Newcastle
PB0000328/560

Timetable changes presumably? Hopefully frequency increases!

I'm seeing no Q3 on here and no 35 on the Stagecoach one. Does this mean the consultation for them 2 routes didn't go through

(16 Dec 2023, 3:56 pm)Aaron21 wrote I'm seeing no Q3 on here and no 35 on the Stagecoach one. Does this mean the consultation for them 2 routes didn't go through

Tenders for the Q3 and 35 are renewed in March 2024.

(16 Dec 2023, 2:03 pm)OrangeArrow49 wrote Timetable changes presumably? Hopefully frequency increases!

Wouldn't get your hopes up, most of these routes seem to have small timetable changes every time there are service changes

(16 Dec 2023, 2:03 pm)OrangeArrow49 wrote Timetable changes presumably? Hopefully frequency increases!

CSV has timetable changes for all as well as route changes for the 6, 47, x45 and 74.

X45/47/74/6 all have a revised route & timetable changes

Whats the X45/47 changes, they now go direct or stop at every stop between Metro and Newcastle a change for the 17th time

(18 Dec 2023, 10:33 am)Unber43 wrote Whats the X45/47 changes, they now go direct or stop at every stop between Metro and Newcastle a change for the 17th time

They’ll be taking the absolute p*** if they change that back, again.
Even some of the drivers don’t know whether they’re express or local services anymore and need passengers to correct them.

(18 Dec 2023, 12:34 pm)ne14ne1 wrote They’ll be taking the absolute p*** if they change that back, again.
Even some of the drivers don’t know whether they’re express or local services anymore and need passengers to correct them.

Would it not just be better for simplicity sake to re-number the X45 back to 45 and 47 to 46?

(18 Dec 2023, 10:27 am)Aaron21 wrote X45/47/74/6 all have a revised route & timetable changes

I wonder how much the routes and timetables are changing on the 6/X45/47/74. Probably not much change of route, and no frequency increases.

If I could change the X45 & 47 it would be to send them via Center Link and across Swing Bridge. Would say give people a link to Quayside from Metrocentre

X20 returning in January 2024.


PB0003954/801
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 20 (20, 20A) University Hospital of North Durham Sunderland

PB0003954/493
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 689 (689) Consett Hexham

PB0003954/351
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 27 (27) South Shields Newcastle

PB0003954/795
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 65 (65) Seaham Durham

PB0003954/1168
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED X20 (X20) Sunderland Langley Park

PB0003954/86
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 93,94 (93, 94) Gateshead Gateshead

PB0003954/1372
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 682 (682) West Woodburn Hexham

YEY! Wonder with what buses

I don't know much about this set of routes but could it not interwork with the 20/20A to provide a bus every 10 minutes or similar?

I think the X20 will be Sunderland - Barnes - Bede - Prospect - Bored Inn - NON STOP - Houghton - NON STOP - Durham

(21 Dec 2023, 9:05 pm)Unber43 wrote YEY! Wonder with what buses

Probs the Ex First Streetlites, as I think the X20 will be a stand alone service.

Hopefully branded

I don't see why the Langley Park bus has to be the X20, in the evening it just means you have to unnecessarily change the route number half way through the route creating confusion for no apparent reason. It's not like the full route to Langley Park is a fast service, just leave it as the 20.

(21 Dec 2023, 10:10 pm)Unber43 wrote Hopefully branded

Why?

(22 Dec 2023, 4:07 pm)ne14ne1 wrote Why?

Enthusiast foam

(22 Dec 2023, 4:07 pm)F114TML wrote Enthusiast foam

Realistically, branding needs to go IMO. Serves no purpose especially in the current climate.

Only routes that really need branded........

- XLines - Generic - Express buses across the North East
X10, X21, X30, X31

- CityLink
21, 56

- CoastCityLinks (in conjunction with Arriva)
306, 307, 308, 309

- CityConnect
Q3, 53, 54

Rest can go IMO including the X45 going back to 45 and 47 becoming the 46.

(22 Dec 2023, 5:52 pm)L469 YVK wrote Realistically, branding needs to go IMO. Serves no purpose especially in the current climate.

Only routes that really need branded........

- XLines - Generic - Express buses across the North East
X10, X21, X30, X31

- CityLink
21, 56

- CoastCityLinks (in conjunction with Arriva)
306, 307, 308, 309

- CityConnect
Q3, 53, 54

Rest can go IMO including the X45 going back to 45 and 47 becoming the 46.

On that logic, the 20s could be city link, too, completing the triangle.

PB0003954/795
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 65 (65) Seaham Durham

Any ideas what is changing here? Hopefully back to hourly on Sundays


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(22 Dec 2023, 4:07 pm)F114TML wrote Enthusiast foam

Thought so.

(21 Dec 2023, 9:58 pm)Unber43 wrote I think the X20 will be Sunderland - Barnes - Bede - Prospect - Bored Inn - NON STOP - Houghton - NON STOP - Durham

I'd be Bored in the Board Inn too.

After Houghton would likely do as before, via the Business Park and Rainton Arena then A690, The Sportsman and rejoin A690 after the business park stops that it used to serve.

Can't wait to read "With funding from Nexus & The BSIP" we will be bringing back the X20.

(23 Dec 2023, 2:26 pm)Aaron21 wrote Can't wait to read "With funding from Nexus & The BSIP" we will be bringing back the X20.

Isn’t that the purpose of the Bus Service Improvement Plan?

I didn’t see you make this comment about Stagecoach’s X24/X34, or Arriva’s X16?


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(23 Dec 2023, 2:52 pm)Dan wrote Isn’t that the purpose of the Bus Service Improvement Plan?

I’ve been starting to wonder, (granted, not enough to actually dig it out and read it yet).
Surely the money will sharp go down if it can be used to simply RESTORE a service cut by commercial operators, rather than IMPROVING bus service/infrastructure already there - so we have something new to show for it.

(23 Dec 2023, 2:52 pm)Dan wrote Isn’t that the purpose of the Bus Service Improvement Plan?

I didn’t see you make this comment about Stagecoach’s X24/X34, or Arriva’s X16?


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Some would say the difference is that Stagecoach aren't using public money to restore something that was previously a commercial service. It is a genuine improvement. 

Whereas in the examples given, it *APPEARS* that Arriva and GNE are wanting to use public money to pay for services which were clearly commercial before they were reduced for staffing reasons.  

It might be allowed by the letter of BSIP. But I don't think it's within the spirit of it, personally.