Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - June 2015
Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - June 2015
Period 1 Fleet Movements:
Busways:
19672 NK60 DNO ADL ENVIRO 400 Yorkshire to Walkergate
22462 T462 BNL MAN ALX300 Walkergate to Reserve
22480 T480 BNL MAN ALX300 Reserve to Disposal
22494 T494 BNL MAN ALX300 Sold to Alpha Recovery
22667 V667 DDC MAN ALX300 Transit Reserve to Reserve
Transit:
22667 V667 DDC MAN ALX300 Reserve to Busways Reserve
22733 T733 OEF MAN ALX300 Reserve to Disposal
33101 R101 KRG DENNIS DART SLF Sold to NE Bus Preservation
Trust
With thanks to "Michael Bonwick" of the "Stagecoach Enthusiasts" Facebook Group.
(07 Jun 2015, 8:04 pm)Robert Out of interest, what does this 'Period 1' stuff on the allocations actually mean? Does it just act as a reference as to when the transfers took place and when the document was published?
(07 Jun 2015, 8:04 pm)Robert Out of interest, what does this 'Period 1' stuff on the allocations actually mean? Does it just act as a reference as to when the transfers took place and when the document was published?
(07 Jun 2015, 8:04 pm)Robert Out of interest, what does this 'Period 1' stuff on the allocations actually mean? Does it just act as a reference as to when the transfers took place and when the document was published?
(07 Jun 2015, 8:10 pm)Dan It refers to the company's accounting/financial year.
As we've discussed in the past, and I'm sure you'll remember, Go North East's financial year starts/ends in June. The year is split up into periods, just like a monthly calendar. Stagecoach have a set 4-week period. 13 Periods * 4 weeks = 52 weeks (1 year).
Stagecoach document all movements that take place in their 'periods', opposed to on a weekly basis like Go North East.
(07 Jun 2015, 8:04 pm)Robert Out of interest, what does this 'Period 1' stuff on the allocations actually mean? Does it just act as a reference as to when the transfers took place and when the document was published?
(07 Jun 2015, 8:10 pm)Dan It refers to the company's accounting/financial year.
As we've discussed in the past, and I'm sure you'll remember, Go North East's financial year starts/ends in June. The year is split up into periods, just like a monthly calendar. Stagecoach have a set 4-week period. 13 Periods * 4 weeks = 52 weeks (1 year).
Stagecoach document all movements that take place in their 'periods', opposed to on a weekly basis like Go North East.
(07 Jun 2015, 8:13 pm)Kuyoyo As such, the newly released Fleet Card is the Period 2 with Period 1 movements listed on there.
(07 Jun 2015, 8:13 pm)Kuyoyo As such, the newly released Fleet Card is the Period 2 with Period 1 movements listed on there.
(07 Jun 2015, 9:59 am)danpick 19197 has a kettle.
(06 Jun 2015, 9:44 pm)Jimmi Especially turning left here where people are often at least part in the road so this could have resulted in serious injuries to pedestrians.
No idea when this happened but I think the first opportunity he could have stopped that's what should have been done.
(06 Jun 2015, 9:44 pm)Jimmi Especially turning left here where people are often at least part in the road so this could have resulted in serious injuries to pedestrians.
No idea when this happened but I think the first opportunity he could have stopped that's what should have been done.
(07 Jun 2015, 2:50 pm)Michael Do you?, what about if he does?
Just because you've seen the order list doesn't mean you know everything about the Stagecoach order and you don't have to have a attitude.
According to Flickr user "mdw9121", former Stagecoach Sunderland MAN ALX300 22728 (T728 OEF) has been preserved. It's great to hear that at least one of them has been sold to something other than a bus breakers!
Does anyone know why Slatyford MAN ALX300 22480 (T480 BNL) has been listed for disposal, as I think that would be a likely candidate for preservation, due to apparently lots of money being spent on it over the years, as mentioned in this image.
Furthermore, no images have appeared yet of 33101 (R101 KRG) with is new owners - unless it is still in storage at Sunderland Depot...
(12 Jun 2015, 8:11 pm)AIG20 According to Flickr user "mdw9121", former Stagecoach Sunderland MAN ALX300 22728 (T728 OEF) has been preserved. It's great to hear that at least one of them has been sold to something other than a bus breakers!
Does anyone know why Slatyford MAN ALX300 22480 (T480 BNL) has been listed for disposal, as I think that would be a likely candidate for preservation, due to apparently lots of money being spent on it over the years, as mentioned in this image.
Furthermore, no images have appeared yet of 33101 (R101 KRG) with is new owners - unless it is still in storage at Sunderland Depot...
(12 Jun 2015, 8:11 pm)AIG20 According to Flickr user "mdw9121", former Stagecoach Sunderland MAN ALX300 22728 (T728 OEF) has been preserved. It's great to hear that at least one of them has been sold to something other than a bus breakers!
Does anyone know why Slatyford MAN ALX300 22480 (T480 BNL) has been listed for disposal, as I think that would be a likely candidate for preservation, due to apparently lots of money being spent on it over the years, as mentioned in this image.
Furthermore, no images have appeared yet of 33101 (R101 KRG) with is new owners - unless it is still in storage at Sunderland Depot...
(12 Jun 2015, 8:22 pm)South Tyne Lad Im so happy one has been preserved, I don't know why most drivers hated them as I thought they gave a pleasant ride
And again, Happy 33101 was preserved loved it juring its brief stay at South Sheilds. shame someone didn't preserve 33491/92 as they were part of my childhood riding them from town back home but I think 91 was withdrawn with chassis issues or something like that.
(12 Jun 2015, 8:22 pm)South Tyne Lad Im so happy one has been preserved, I don't know why most drivers hated them as I thought they gave a pleasant ride
And again, Happy 33101 was preserved loved it juring its brief stay at South Sheilds. shame someone didn't preserve 33491/92 as they were part of my childhood riding them from town back home but I think 91 was withdrawn with chassis issues or something like that.
(12 Jun 2015, 8:31 pm)AIG20 33492 also was withdrawn and latter scrapped due to chassis corrosion, after receiving parts from 33488 - which was also withdrawn and scrapped due to chassis corrosion! I think all of the R-reg darts had chassis issues at their end of life, which was probably one of the reasons why they were all scrapped. I assume a lot of chassis repairs will need to be done to 33101 during restoration.
(12 Jun 2015, 8:31 pm)AIG20 33492 also was withdrawn and latter scrapped due to chassis corrosion, after receiving parts from 33488 - which was also withdrawn and scrapped due to chassis corrosion! I think all of the R-reg darts had chassis issues at their end of life, which was probably one of the reasons why they were all scrapped. I assume a lot of chassis repairs will need to be done to 33101 during restoration.
the 19 Euro 5 Enviro 200 MK1s due next month for South Sheilds will replace older 61 Reg Enviro 200 36461-79 which will transfer to Hartlepool to replace the 19 Transbus Darts
33401, 34561-69 and 34605-08 to Disposal or Reserve
The 19 new E200s for shields will not replace the MAN 14.240 Enviro 200s 39701-14 as there is only 14 of them, These will stay at Sheilds
Also 14 Reg 37143/44 will stay at Sheilds with one replacing 22734s role with 22734 going to disposal
MAN 18.220 ALX300s 22050/67/70 will stay aswell as Darts 35190/91/92/93/94/95
So anyone wanting one final ride/photo of 22734 you have just under 1 month left.
This was just pure guessing but all of it adds up so id say its 90% likely to happen.
(12 Jun 2015, 9:03 pm)South Tyne Lad the 19 Euro 5 Enviro 200 MK1s due next month for South Sheilds will replace older 61 Reg Enviro 200 36461-79 which will transfer to Hartlepool to replace the 19 Transbus DartsThey wont replace the other E200 it will be 39701-39714 22734 and 22049/50/70 as it adds up to 19 buses going elsewhere bar 22734.
33401, 34561-69 and 34605-08 to Disposal or Reserve
The 19 new E200s for shields will not replace the MAN 14.240 Enviro 200s 39701-14 as there is only 14 of them, These will stay at Sheilds
Also 14 Reg 37143/44 will stay at Sheilds with one replacing 22734s role with 22734 going to disposal
MAN 18.220 ALX300s 22050/67/70 will stay aswell as Darts 35190/91/92/93/94/95
So anyone wanting one final ride/photo of 22734 you have just under 1 month left.
This was just pure guessing but all of it adds up so id say its 90% likely to happen.
(12 Jun 2015, 9:03 pm)South Tyne Lad the 19 Euro 5 Enviro 200 MK1s due next month for South Sheilds will replace older 61 Reg Enviro 200 36461-79 which will transfer to Hartlepool to replace the 19 Transbus DartsThey wont replace the other E200 it will be 39701-39714 22734 and 22049/50/70 as it adds up to 19 buses going elsewhere bar 22734.
33401, 34561-69 and 34605-08 to Disposal or Reserve
The 19 new E200s for shields will not replace the MAN 14.240 Enviro 200s 39701-14 as there is only 14 of them, These will stay at Sheilds
Also 14 Reg 37143/44 will stay at Sheilds with one replacing 22734s role with 22734 going to disposal
MAN 18.220 ALX300s 22050/67/70 will stay aswell as Darts 35190/91/92/93/94/95
So anyone wanting one final ride/photo of 22734 you have just under 1 month left.
This was just pure guessing but all of it adds up so id say its 90% likely to happen.
As there's all this speculation, I'd like to confirm the following.
37301-19 will not be replacing 22049/50/70. Those 3 are required for the X20 I understand due to the daytime loadings. I'm also lead to understand that 35190-5 will be transferring, rumours are to Hartlepool to replace older sisters on the 1.