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09 Aug 2015, 11:48 am #203
Some sort of Railtour has just passed Metrocentre hauled by locos.
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09 Aug 2015, 11:48 am #203

Some sort of Railtour has just passed Metrocentre hauled by locos.

09 Aug 2015, 11:50 am #204
(09 Aug 2015, 11:48 am)MurdnunoC Some sort of Railtour has just passed Metrocentre hauled by locos.

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U5...9/advanced
omnicity4659
09 Aug 2015, 11:50 am #204

(09 Aug 2015, 11:48 am)MurdnunoC Some sort of Railtour has just passed Metrocentre hauled by locos.

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U5...9/advanced

09 Aug 2015, 3:01 pm #205
Yesterday that wasn't the Royal Train.
There is never any paths on Realtime Trains for it due to it being a sensitive move. However it does show on the Realtime Maps you can get access to (such as Railcam).

That charter today was the Noah's Arc from Glasgow to Crewe, a charity charter formed from a GBRf staff charter yesterday.

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09 Aug 2015, 3:01 pm #205

Yesterday that wasn't the Royal Train.
There is never any paths on Realtime Trains for it due to it being a sensitive move. However it does show on the Realtime Maps you can get access to (such as Railcam).

That charter today was the Noah's Arc from Glasgow to Crewe, a charity charter formed from a GBRf staff charter yesterday.


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09 Aug 2015, 3:34 pm #206
(09 Aug 2015, 3:01 pm)northern156 Yesterday that wasn't the Royal Train.
There is never any paths on Realtime Trains for it due to it being a sensitive move. However it does show on the Realtime Maps you can get access to (such as Railcam).

That charter today was the Noah's Arc from Glasgow to Crewe, a charity charter formed from a GBRf staff charter yesterday.

We found out that whoever told Lee was bullshitting.
DanPicken
09 Aug 2015, 3:34 pm #206

(09 Aug 2015, 3:01 pm)northern156 Yesterday that wasn't the Royal Train.
There is never any paths on Realtime Trains for it due to it being a sensitive move. However it does show on the Realtime Maps you can get access to (such as Railcam).

That charter today was the Noah's Arc from Glasgow to Crewe, a charity charter formed from a GBRf staff charter yesterday.

We found out that whoever told Lee was bullshitting.

09 Aug 2015, 3:37 pm #207
(09 Aug 2015, 3:01 pm)northern156 Yesterday that wasn't the Royal Train.
There is never any paths on Realtime Trains for it due to it being a sensitive move. However it does show on the Realtime Maps you can get access to (such as Railcam).

That charter today was the Noah's Arc from Glasgow to Crewe, a charity charter formed from a GBRf staff charter yesterday.

I gathered it wouldn't be the Royal Train, mainly due to the fact RailUKForums wasn't in meltdown  Big Grin

Why does moves like the Royal Train not get shown on websites such as RTT etc? Does it not show up at all, even as a STP or VSTP?
omnicity4659
09 Aug 2015, 3:37 pm #207

(09 Aug 2015, 3:01 pm)northern156 Yesterday that wasn't the Royal Train.
There is never any paths on Realtime Trains for it due to it being a sensitive move. However it does show on the Realtime Maps you can get access to (such as Railcam).

That charter today was the Noah's Arc from Glasgow to Crewe, a charity charter formed from a GBRf staff charter yesterday.

I gathered it wouldn't be the Royal Train, mainly due to the fact RailUKForums wasn't in meltdown  Big Grin

Why does moves like the Royal Train not get shown on websites such as RTT etc? Does it not show up at all, even as a STP or VSTP?

09 Aug 2015, 3:38 pm #208
(09 Aug 2015, 3:34 pm)danpick We found out that whoever told Lee was bullshitting.

The Royal Train operated by Freightliner Class 70s and Arriva Trains Wales DVTs.  Big Grin
omnicity4659
09 Aug 2015, 3:38 pm #208

(09 Aug 2015, 3:34 pm)danpick We found out that whoever told Lee was bullshitting.

The Royal Train operated by Freightliner Class 70s and Arriva Trains Wales DVTs.  Big Grin

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09 Aug 2015, 3:42 pm #209
(09 Aug 2015, 3:38 pm)GX03 SVC The Royal Train operated by Freightliner Class 70s and Arriva Trains Wales DVTs.  Big Grin

And as it was Bullshit Andrew said if it didn't come he owed me, Lee and Davie all £100.
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09 Aug 2015, 3:42 pm #209

(09 Aug 2015, 3:38 pm)GX03 SVC The Royal Train operated by Freightliner Class 70s and Arriva Trains Wales DVTs.  Big Grin

And as it was Bullshit Andrew said if it didn't come he owed me, Lee and Davie all £100.

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09 Aug 2015, 3:59 pm #210
(09 Aug 2015, 3:37 pm)GX03 SVC I gathered it wouldn't be the Royal Train, mainly due to the fact RailUKForums wasn't in meltdown  Big Grin

Why does moves like the Royal Train not get shown on websites such as RTT etc? Does it not show up at all, even as a STP or VSTP?

I hadn't realised that they weren't, until Sean had said, but it does make sense. Putting Royal movements on an open data service would breach about every security rule in the book. 

(09 Aug 2015, 3:42 pm)danpick And as it was Bullshit Andrew said if it didn't come he owed me, Lee and Davie all £100.

I think I've got more chance of getting Michelle Keegan round my place tonight, than you have of seeing that £100.

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09 Aug 2015, 3:59 pm #210

(09 Aug 2015, 3:37 pm)GX03 SVC I gathered it wouldn't be the Royal Train, mainly due to the fact RailUKForums wasn't in meltdown  Big Grin

Why does moves like the Royal Train not get shown on websites such as RTT etc? Does it not show up at all, even as a STP or VSTP?

I hadn't realised that they weren't, until Sean had said, but it does make sense. Putting Royal movements on an open data service would breach about every security rule in the book. 

(09 Aug 2015, 3:42 pm)danpick And as it was Bullshit Andrew said if it didn't come he owed me, Lee and Davie all £100.

I think I've got more chance of getting Michelle Keegan round my place tonight, than you have of seeing that £100.


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09 Aug 2015, 4:52 pm #211
Anyone going up to Edinburgh (or Tweedbank) next month to sample the new Borders Railways?

As part of my Masters Degree, I presented a paper on the Waverley Line and its closure. It's partial reopening holds quite a bit of appeal to me.

Apparently, a return journey between Edinburgh and Tweedbank is priced at £16 peak and £11.50 off-peak.
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09 Aug 2015, 4:52 pm #211

Anyone going up to Edinburgh (or Tweedbank) next month to sample the new Borders Railways?

As part of my Masters Degree, I presented a paper on the Waverley Line and its closure. It's partial reopening holds quite a bit of appeal to me.

Apparently, a return journey between Edinburgh and Tweedbank is priced at £16 peak and £11.50 off-peak.

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09 Aug 2015, 4:56 pm #212
(09 Aug 2015, 4:52 pm)MurdnunoC Anyone going up to Edinburgh (or Tweedbank) next month to sample the new Borders Railways?

As part of my Masters Degree, I presented a paper on the Waverley Line and its closure. It's partial reopening holds quite a bit of appeal to me.

Apparently, a return journey between Edinburgh and Tweedbank is priced at £16 peak and £11.50 off-peak.

I was thinking about it for early Sept, as that's the next time I'll be up there.

I'm heading the other way next week instead, and I've noticed that there's a West Coast trip planned to depart from York, not long after I arrive there. Hopefully some different locos to photograph.

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09 Aug 2015, 4:56 pm #212

(09 Aug 2015, 4:52 pm)MurdnunoC Anyone going up to Edinburgh (or Tweedbank) next month to sample the new Borders Railways?

As part of my Masters Degree, I presented a paper on the Waverley Line and its closure. It's partial reopening holds quite a bit of appeal to me.

Apparently, a return journey between Edinburgh and Tweedbank is priced at £16 peak and £11.50 off-peak.

I was thinking about it for early Sept, as that's the next time I'll be up there.

I'm heading the other way next week instead, and I've noticed that there's a West Coast trip planned to depart from York, not long after I arrive there. Hopefully some different locos to photograph.


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09 Aug 2015, 5:01 pm #213
(09 Aug 2015, 4:52 pm)MurdnunoC Anyone going up to Edinburgh (or Tweedbank) next month to sample the new Borders Railways?

As part of my Masters Degree, I presented a paper on the Waverley Line and its closure. It's partial reopening holds quite a bit of appeal to me.

Apparently, a return journey between Edinburgh and Tweedbank is priced at £16 peak and £11.50 off-peak.

It is something I have been following for a while and I am pleased to see it come off.
Rather than do a return, I have looked in to a bus there and train back or vice versa.


(09 Aug 2015, 4:56 pm)aureolin I was thinking about it for early Sept, as that's the next time I'll be up there.

I'm heading the other way next week instead, and I've noticed that there's a West Coast trip planned to depart from York, not long after I arrive there. Hopefully some different locos to photograph.

There was a steam loco in Carlisle last week, pulling a West Coast trip. Didn't get id unfortunately. 
Plenty punters taking photos of that and 158849, that I guess was in on a Settle run.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
09 Aug 2015, 5:01 pm #213

(09 Aug 2015, 4:52 pm)MurdnunoC Anyone going up to Edinburgh (or Tweedbank) next month to sample the new Borders Railways?

As part of my Masters Degree, I presented a paper on the Waverley Line and its closure. It's partial reopening holds quite a bit of appeal to me.

Apparently, a return journey between Edinburgh and Tweedbank is priced at £16 peak and £11.50 off-peak.

It is something I have been following for a while and I am pleased to see it come off.
Rather than do a return, I have looked in to a bus there and train back or vice versa.


(09 Aug 2015, 4:56 pm)aureolin I was thinking about it for early Sept, as that's the next time I'll be up there.

I'm heading the other way next week instead, and I've noticed that there's a West Coast trip planned to depart from York, not long after I arrive there. Hopefully some different locos to photograph.

There was a steam loco in Carlisle last week, pulling a West Coast trip. Didn't get id unfortunately. 
Plenty punters taking photos of that and 158849, that I guess was in on a Settle run.


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

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09 Aug 2015, 5:04 pm #214
(09 Aug 2015, 4:56 pm)aureolin I was thinking about it for early Sept, as that's the next time I'll be up there.

I'm heading the other way next week instead, and I've noticed that there's a West Coast trip planned to depart from York, not long after I arrive there. Hopefully some different locos to photograph.

I'm probably going to drive up to Tweedbank, head into Edinburgh for the day and return later on. 

While some have attempted to label the project as a colossal waste of money, I'm quite optimistic. I think it will be quite well-used and, hopefully, a case can be made for extending the line further south towards Hawick (and perhaps Carlisle).
MurdnunoC
09 Aug 2015, 5:04 pm #214

(09 Aug 2015, 4:56 pm)aureolin I was thinking about it for early Sept, as that's the next time I'll be up there.

I'm heading the other way next week instead, and I've noticed that there's a West Coast trip planned to depart from York, not long after I arrive there. Hopefully some different locos to photograph.

I'm probably going to drive up to Tweedbank, head into Edinburgh for the day and return later on. 

While some have attempted to label the project as a colossal waste of money, I'm quite optimistic. I think it will be quite well-used and, hopefully, a case can be made for extending the line further south towards Hawick (and perhaps Carlisle).

09 Aug 2015, 5:07 pm #215
(09 Aug 2015, 3:37 pm)GX03 SVC I gathered it wouldn't be the Royal Train, mainly due to the fact RailUKForums wasn't in meltdown  Big Grin

Why does moves like the Royal Train not get shown on websites such as RTT etc? Does it not show up at all, even as a STP or VSTP?

No moves associated with the Royal Train (even ECS movements) get shown on RTT, or indeed, any other systems for the reasons Adrian pointed out.
Obviously paths incorporating the likes of 67005/6 in normal use are allowed.

Even drivers don't know what the headcode and working details are until they book on that morning - I assume signallers are the same.
It got stabled right outside the depot I work at a few months ago (on the network, not on our infrastructure), armed guards stay on the train at all times too.

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09 Aug 2015, 5:07 pm #215

(09 Aug 2015, 3:37 pm)GX03 SVC I gathered it wouldn't be the Royal Train, mainly due to the fact RailUKForums wasn't in meltdown  Big Grin

Why does moves like the Royal Train not get shown on websites such as RTT etc? Does it not show up at all, even as a STP or VSTP?

No moves associated with the Royal Train (even ECS movements) get shown on RTT, or indeed, any other systems for the reasons Adrian pointed out.
Obviously paths incorporating the likes of 67005/6 in normal use are allowed.

Even drivers don't know what the headcode and working details are until they book on that morning - I assume signallers are the same.
It got stabled right outside the depot I work at a few months ago (on the network, not on our infrastructure), armed guards stay on the train at all times too.


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09 Aug 2015, 5:34 pm #216
(09 Aug 2015, 5:01 pm)Andreos1 There was a steam loco in Carlisle last week, pulling a West Coast trip. Didn't get id unfortunately. 
Plenty punters taking photos of that and 158849, that I guess was in on a Settle run.

The Dalesman runs twice a week out of Carlisle on Tue and Thu. Could be that?
http://www.westcoastrailways.co.uk/dales...rience.cfm

Looks like the West Coast run I seen last Thursday is also a regular. It's booked in Tue & Thu this week too. 47760 was on the front, and 57314 on the back when I seen it.

(09 Aug 2015, 5:04 pm)MurdnunoC I'm probably going to drive up to Tweedbank, head into Edinburgh for the day and return later on. 

While some have attempted to label the project as a colossal waste of money, I'm quite optimistic. I think it will be quite well-used and, hopefully, a case can be made for extending the line further south towards Hawick (and perhaps Carlisle).

If you do, it's worth waiting round for the loco hauled Fife Circle diagrams. This post should help if you are interested.

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09 Aug 2015, 5:34 pm #216

(09 Aug 2015, 5:01 pm)Andreos1 There was a steam loco in Carlisle last week, pulling a West Coast trip. Didn't get id unfortunately. 
Plenty punters taking photos of that and 158849, that I guess was in on a Settle run.

The Dalesman runs twice a week out of Carlisle on Tue and Thu. Could be that?
http://www.westcoastrailways.co.uk/dales...rience.cfm

Looks like the West Coast run I seen last Thursday is also a regular. It's booked in Tue & Thu this week too. 47760 was on the front, and 57314 on the back when I seen it.

(09 Aug 2015, 5:04 pm)MurdnunoC I'm probably going to drive up to Tweedbank, head into Edinburgh for the day and return later on. 

While some have attempted to label the project as a colossal waste of money, I'm quite optimistic. I think it will be quite well-used and, hopefully, a case can be made for extending the line further south towards Hawick (and perhaps Carlisle).

If you do, it's worth waiting round for the loco hauled Fife Circle diagrams. This post should help if you are interested.


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10 Aug 2015, 10:10 am #217
The return journey of 68008 will arrive Morpeth at 1633 and Newcastle 1700.
omnicity4659
10 Aug 2015, 10:10 am #217

The return journey of 68008 will arrive Morpeth at 1633 and Newcastle 1700.

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18 Aug 2015, 7:04 am #218
Fares rising faster than wages.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-33968...ow_twitter c

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
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18 Aug 2015, 7:04 am #218

Fares rising faster than wages.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-33968...ow_twitter c


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

18 Aug 2015, 9:44 pm #219
(18 Aug 2015, 7:04 am)Andreos1 Fares rising faster than wages.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-33968...ow_twitter c

And just hours later (after reporting the same story this morning) Sky report this:

http://news.sky.com/story/1537669/rail-r...wo-minutes

And we wonder why...!

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18 Aug 2015, 9:44 pm #219

(18 Aug 2015, 7:04 am)Andreos1 Fares rising faster than wages.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-33968...ow_twitter c

And just hours later (after reporting the same story this morning) Sky report this:

http://news.sky.com/story/1537669/rail-r...wo-minutes

And we wonder why...!


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18 Aug 2015, 9:53 pm #220
(18 Aug 2015, 7:04 am)Andreos1 Fares rising faster than wages.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-33968...ow_twitter c

(18 Aug 2015, 9:44 pm)northern156 And just hours later (after reporting the same story this morning) Sky report this:

http://news.sky.com/story/1537669/rail-r...wo-minutes

And we wonder why...!
Typical Government. Capping something that's already too high. Restricting it to inflation isn't going to correct all those years of inflation busting price hikes.

On the point of refunds. Two minutes is ridiculous in my opinion. I'd say anything over 30 mins maybe? That shouldn't stop operators from issuing discretionary refunds, say if someones journey is constantly 10 mins late.

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18 Aug 2015, 9:53 pm #220

(18 Aug 2015, 7:04 am)Andreos1 Fares rising faster than wages.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-33968...ow_twitter c

(18 Aug 2015, 9:44 pm)northern156 And just hours later (after reporting the same story this morning) Sky report this:

http://news.sky.com/story/1537669/rail-r...wo-minutes

And we wonder why...!
Typical Government. Capping something that's already too high. Restricting it to inflation isn't going to correct all those years of inflation busting price hikes.

On the point of refunds. Two minutes is ridiculous in my opinion. I'd say anything over 30 mins maybe? That shouldn't stop operators from issuing discretionary refunds, say if someones journey is constantly 10 mins late.


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