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24 Aug 2015, 4:35 pm #1,001
(24 Aug 2015, 4:34 pm)DanPicken Their a big difference between an 'if' and an actual bus which fan belt has massively deteriorated.

There is also a big difference between ''their'' and ''there'', the latter of which I presume you mean.
R852 PRG
24 Aug 2015, 4:35 pm #1,001

(24 Aug 2015, 4:34 pm)DanPicken Their a big difference between an 'if' and an actual bus which fan belt has massively deteriorated.

There is also a big difference between ''their'' and ''there'', the latter of which I presume you mean.

Adrian



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24 Aug 2015, 9:07 pm #1,002
(24 Aug 2015, 10:09 am)GMitchelhill Actually it won't be as drastic as people have mentioned. Basically all it would need is a hinged door on the nearside complete with wheelchair lift / ramp. Although a pain to operate in normal service, it's handy for private hire.

Though saying that Airbus in London had Volvo Olympians fitted with wheelchair lifts at the front entrance and Northumbria Coaches also had a Optare MetroRider fitted with a lift.

Wheelchair lift can be seen here in this photo - https://www.flickr.com/photos/23137045@N...6wp-6uNFXp

Strathclyde conversion of an Atlantean - https://www.flickr.com/photos/fredbongo/...5Zp-nMWP8t

Strathclyde also had Volvo Citybuses fitted with lifts - https://www.flickr.com/photos/63093849@N...ijF-rQco6u

And finally here is said Optare MetroRider (which I have also travelled on this service) - https://www.flickr.com/photos/45726467@N...1mh-nS8fAB

So there you have it, proof that it can be done with out the drastic work.
Fitting a ramp is the least of their worries really though.

Me and Dan had a bit of back and forth in another thread regarding how minor some of the requirements are, but on the same note, I'm confident something like an Atlantean or Olympian would require way more adjustment.

Whilst I'd love to see a fleet of DDA compliant Atlanteans on the road, I think we're going to have to settle for underpowered plastic. Sad

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Adrian
24 Aug 2015, 9:07 pm #1,002

(24 Aug 2015, 10:09 am)GMitchelhill Actually it won't be as drastic as people have mentioned. Basically all it would need is a hinged door on the nearside complete with wheelchair lift / ramp. Although a pain to operate in normal service, it's handy for private hire.

Though saying that Airbus in London had Volvo Olympians fitted with wheelchair lifts at the front entrance and Northumbria Coaches also had a Optare MetroRider fitted with a lift.

Wheelchair lift can be seen here in this photo - https://www.flickr.com/photos/23137045@N...6wp-6uNFXp

Strathclyde conversion of an Atlantean - https://www.flickr.com/photos/fredbongo/...5Zp-nMWP8t

Strathclyde also had Volvo Citybuses fitted with lifts - https://www.flickr.com/photos/63093849@N...ijF-rQco6u

And finally here is said Optare MetroRider (which I have also travelled on this service) - https://www.flickr.com/photos/45726467@N...1mh-nS8fAB

So there you have it, proof that it can be done with out the drastic work.
Fitting a ramp is the least of their worries really though.

Me and Dan had a bit of back and forth in another thread regarding how minor some of the requirements are, but on the same note, I'm confident something like an Atlantean or Olympian would require way more adjustment.

Whilst I'd love to see a fleet of DDA compliant Atlanteans on the road, I think we're going to have to settle for underpowered plastic. Sad


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25 Aug 2015, 6:49 am #1,003
(24 Aug 2015, 11:17 am)Dan 5306/07 both at SMR.

Mercedes Citaro 0530N/Mercedes Citaro 5306 (NK08 CHO) was returned to Deptford yesterday, and 5307 (NK08 CHV) was moved into the spray booth. Should be repainted and sent back to Deptford today.

(24 Aug 2015, 9:07 pm)aureolin Fitting a ramp is the least of their worries really though.

Me and Dan had a bit of back and forth in another thread regarding how minor some of the requirements are, but on the same note, I'm confident something like an Atlantean or Olympian would require way more adjustment.

Whilst I'd love to see a fleet of DDA compliant Atlanteans on the road, I think we're going to have to settle for underpowered plastic. Sad

Yep, DDA-compliance is so much more than a bus being low-floor and equipped with a ramp.

The Volvo B10BLE/Wright Renowns are proof of this - all are low-floor and fitted with ramps (some of which are equipped with automatic ramps which I believe are more modern than your standard manual ramp), yet these aren't DDA-complaint and are having to undergo modifications to secure their future within the fleet beyond 1 January 2016.
Dan
25 Aug 2015, 6:49 am #1,003

(24 Aug 2015, 11:17 am)Dan 5306/07 both at SMR.

Mercedes Citaro 0530N/Mercedes Citaro 5306 (NK08 CHO) was returned to Deptford yesterday, and 5307 (NK08 CHV) was moved into the spray booth. Should be repainted and sent back to Deptford today.

(24 Aug 2015, 9:07 pm)aureolin Fitting a ramp is the least of their worries really though.

Me and Dan had a bit of back and forth in another thread regarding how minor some of the requirements are, but on the same note, I'm confident something like an Atlantean or Olympian would require way more adjustment.

Whilst I'd love to see a fleet of DDA compliant Atlanteans on the road, I think we're going to have to settle for underpowered plastic. Sad

Yep, DDA-compliance is so much more than a bus being low-floor and equipped with a ramp.

The Volvo B10BLE/Wright Renowns are proof of this - all are low-floor and fitted with ramps (some of which are equipped with automatic ramps which I believe are more modern than your standard manual ramp), yet these aren't DDA-complaint and are having to undergo modifications to secure their future within the fleet beyond 1 January 2016.

25 Aug 2015, 8:21 am #1,004
(24 Aug 2015, 1:37 pm)R852 PRG Unfortunately their time has come. Their estimated shelf life is coming to an end.

Sad Sad Sad Angry Angry
NK53 TKT
25 Aug 2015, 8:21 am #1,004

(24 Aug 2015, 1:37 pm)R852 PRG Unfortunately their time has come. Their estimated shelf life is coming to an end.

Sad Sad Sad Angry Angry

25 Aug 2015, 10:28 am #1,005
Any info as to where 562 can be found today please?
Coppercap40
25 Aug 2015, 10:28 am #1,005

Any info as to where 562 can be found today please?

Michael



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25 Aug 2015, 10:42 am #1,006
(25 Aug 2015, 10:28 am)Coppercap40 Any info as to where 562 can be found today please?

Probables be on the Npower shuttle.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
25 Aug 2015, 10:42 am #1,006

(25 Aug 2015, 10:28 am)Coppercap40 Any info as to where 562 can be found today please?

Probables be on the Npower shuttle.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Michael



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25 Aug 2015, 12:20 pm #1,007
Seems more problems on the 60 today someone posted that 3 turned up at once... its getting regular.. yes we can blame the traffic, road works etc but its getting ridiculous.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
25 Aug 2015, 12:20 pm #1,007

Seems more problems on the 60 today someone posted that 3 turned up at once... its getting regular.. yes we can blame the traffic, road works etc but its getting ridiculous.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

DanPicken

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25 Aug 2015, 2:49 pm #1,008
5329 is partially branded.
DanPicken
25 Aug 2015, 2:49 pm #1,008

5329 is partially branded.

Dan

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25 Aug 2015, 2:52 pm #1,009
(25 Aug 2015, 12:20 pm)Michael Seems more problems on the 60 today someone posted that 3 turned up at once... its getting regular.. yes we can blame the traffic, road works etc but its getting ridiculous.

I've been on our real-time technology most of the day sorting out some things - not sure how three buses were running together as I certainly haven't observed any vehicles running 30 minutes late...
Dan
25 Aug 2015, 2:52 pm #1,009

(25 Aug 2015, 12:20 pm)Michael Seems more problems on the 60 today someone posted that 3 turned up at once... its getting regular.. yes we can blame the traffic, road works etc but its getting ridiculous.

I've been on our real-time technology most of the day sorting out some things - not sure how three buses were running together as I certainly haven't observed any vehicles running 30 minutes late...

Michael



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25 Aug 2015, 2:54 pm #1,010
(25 Aug 2015, 2:52 pm)Dan I've been on our real-time technology most of the day sorting out some things - not sure how three buses were running together as I certainly haven't observed any vehicles running 30 minutes late...

Well i'm going by the post although 2 normally run together - sometimes.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
25 Aug 2015, 2:54 pm #1,010

(25 Aug 2015, 2:52 pm)Dan I've been on our real-time technology most of the day sorting out some things - not sure how three buses were running together as I certainly haven't observed any vehicles running 30 minutes late...

Well i'm going by the post although 2 normally run together - sometimes.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Dan

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25 Aug 2015, 2:59 pm #1,011
(25 Aug 2015, 2:54 pm)Michael Well i'm going by the post although 2 normally run together - sometimes.

"Normally" and "sometimes" contradict each other, Michael! Wink

It's certainly not "normal" outside of peak times but irregular variable (often unforeseeable) delays can and do happen, and, as we have discussed in the past with regards to delayed frequent services, this results in services bunching up.
Dan
25 Aug 2015, 2:59 pm #1,011

(25 Aug 2015, 2:54 pm)Michael Well i'm going by the post although 2 normally run together - sometimes.

"Normally" and "sometimes" contradict each other, Michael! Wink

It's certainly not "normal" outside of peak times but irregular variable (often unforeseeable) delays can and do happen, and, as we have discussed in the past with regards to delayed frequent services, this results in services bunching up.

DanPicken

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25 Aug 2015, 3:01 pm #1,012
8265 is posing as a huge health and safety risk with 2 panels hanging loose. [Image: 75cb8a05181afc267f4dd7404f7875f3.jpg]
DanPicken
25 Aug 2015, 3:01 pm #1,012

8265 is posing as a huge health and safety risk with 2 panels hanging loose. [Image: 75cb8a05181afc267f4dd7404f7875f3.jpg]

Dan

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25 Aug 2015, 3:10 pm #1,013
(25 Aug 2015, 3:01 pm)DanPicken 8265 is posing as a huge health and safety risk with 2 panels hanging loose.

Not do much good reporting it on here... E-mail it to Customer Services or send it to them on Social Media.

The driver has probably already reported it as a defect though if s/he has managed to check the bus while at a terminus, and it will likely be changed over as soon as possible if so. How about letting the driver know just in case..?
Dan
25 Aug 2015, 3:10 pm #1,013

(25 Aug 2015, 3:01 pm)DanPicken 8265 is posing as a huge health and safety risk with 2 panels hanging loose.

Not do much good reporting it on here... E-mail it to Customer Services or send it to them on Social Media.

The driver has probably already reported it as a defect though if s/he has managed to check the bus while at a terminus, and it will likely be changed over as soon as possible if so. How about letting the driver know just in case..?

cbma06



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25 Aug 2015, 3:17 pm #1,014
(25 Aug 2015, 2:52 pm)Dan I've been on our real-time technology most of the day sorting out some things - not sure how three buses were running together as I certainly haven't observed any vehicles running 30 minutes late...

Dan, when is the GNE real time display going to be published to the public via the APP?


cbma06
25 Aug 2015, 3:17 pm #1,014

(25 Aug 2015, 2:52 pm)Dan I've been on our real-time technology most of the day sorting out some things - not sure how three buses were running together as I certainly haven't observed any vehicles running 30 minutes late...

Dan, when is the GNE real time display going to be published to the public via the APP?



Dan

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25 Aug 2015, 3:20 pm #1,015
(25 Aug 2015, 3:17 pm)cbma06 Dan, when is the GNE real time display going to be published to the public via the APP?

It's not too far away from being released, Chris. We're stamping out as many issues as possible before releasing the real-time app to the public (which was Arriva's downfall - as they released it while still a little buggy with some data issues).
Dan
25 Aug 2015, 3:20 pm #1,015

(25 Aug 2015, 3:17 pm)cbma06 Dan, when is the GNE real time display going to be published to the public via the APP?

It's not too far away from being released, Chris. We're stamping out as many issues as possible before releasing the real-time app to the public (which was Arriva's downfall - as they released it while still a little buggy with some data issues).

cbma06



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25 Aug 2015, 3:21 pm #1,016
(25 Aug 2015, 3:20 pm)Dan It's not too far away from being released, Chris. We're stamping out as many issues as possible before releasing the real-time app to the public (which was Arriva's downfall - as they released it while still a little buggy with some data issues).

Cheers for the info.


cbma06
25 Aug 2015, 3:21 pm #1,016

(25 Aug 2015, 3:20 pm)Dan It's not too far away from being released, Chris. We're stamping out as many issues as possible before releasing the real-time app to the public (which was Arriva's downfall - as they released it while still a little buggy with some data issues).

Cheers for the info.



25 Aug 2015, 3:21 pm #1,017
(25 Aug 2015, 3:20 pm)Dan It's not too far away from being released, Chris. We're stamping out as many issues as possible before releasing the real-time app to the public (which was Arriva's downfall - as they released it while still a little buggy with some data issues).

You had to add a little pop at the enemy, didn't you? Tongue
R852 PRG
25 Aug 2015, 3:21 pm #1,017

(25 Aug 2015, 3:20 pm)Dan It's not too far away from being released, Chris. We're stamping out as many issues as possible before releasing the real-time app to the public (which was Arriva's downfall - as they released it while still a little buggy with some data issues).

You had to add a little pop at the enemy, didn't you? Tongue

Dan

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25 Aug 2015, 3:22 pm #1,018
(25 Aug 2015, 3:21 pm)R852 PRG You had to add a little pop at the enemy, didn't you? Tongue

Me... No..!!  Cool
Dan
25 Aug 2015, 3:22 pm #1,018

(25 Aug 2015, 3:21 pm)R852 PRG You had to add a little pop at the enemy, didn't you? Tongue

Me... No..!!  Cool

25 Aug 2015, 3:34 pm #1,019
The Arriva app was crap - why show buses following the timetable? Not very live if it's broken down...
omnicity4659
25 Aug 2015, 3:34 pm #1,019

The Arriva app was crap - why show buses following the timetable? Not very live if it's broken down...

Dan

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25 Aug 2015, 3:37 pm #1,020
(25 Aug 2015, 3:34 pm)GX03 SVC The Arriva app was crap - why show buses following the timetable? Not very live if it's broken down...

I'm still not convinced by Arriva showing how late vehicles are running on their app..?

Surely more customers would like to know when their bus is due, rather than how late it is, or have I missed the point? I mean, when family and friends ask me when the bus is due, I usually respond by saying "In 5 minutes" rather than by saying, "Due at 16:45 - it's 13 minutes late."
Dan
25 Aug 2015, 3:37 pm #1,020

(25 Aug 2015, 3:34 pm)GX03 SVC The Arriva app was crap - why show buses following the timetable? Not very live if it's broken down...

I'm still not convinced by Arriva showing how late vehicles are running on their app..?

Surely more customers would like to know when their bus is due, rather than how late it is, or have I missed the point? I mean, when family and friends ask me when the bus is due, I usually respond by saying "In 5 minutes" rather than by saying, "Due at 16:45 - it's 13 minutes late."

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