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LeeCalder

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23 Sep 2015, 7:10 am #481

(23 Sep 2015, 6:40 am)S813 FVK Surprised at this.

I noticed that the 'East Coast' was missing from the TV advert. Didn't realise it had been dropped completely though.

Yeah, I'm suprised they've dropped it completely.

I believe it is so they can create a joint brand between the west and east coast.

It was strange Saturday hearing Daz say "Virgin Trains service to" instead of "Virgin Trains East Coast service to"

LeeCalder

23 Sep 2015, 7:10 am #481

(23 Sep 2015, 6:40 am)S813 FVK Surprised at this.

I noticed that the 'East Coast' was missing from the TV advert. Didn't realise it had been dropped completely though.

omnicity4659

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23 Sep 2015, 8:32 am #482

Oh wow, that's a surprise!

Your tickets are only valid on Virgin Trains services, so no cheeky hopping on Virgin Trains or vice versa! Big Grin

omnicity4659

23 Sep 2015, 8:32 am #482

Oh wow, that's a surprise!

Your tickets are only valid on Virgin Trains services, so no cheeky hopping on Virgin Trains or vice versa! Big Grin

northern156

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24 Sep 2015, 5:24 pm #483

(22 Sep 2015, 10:10 pm)LeeCalder On Saturday, Virgin Trains dropped the "East Coast" part of the name. Therefore meaning that the TOC is now called Virgin Trains and not Virgin Trains East Coast.

However, the code will remain as 'GR' which actuallty stands for GNER!

The dropping of the 'East Coast' part is to do with reducing confusion for customers. A quick look at both VTWC and VTEC Twitter accounts will show a rather large number of complaints/messages being sent to the wrong TOC.

"GR" is the ATOC code which relates to the franchise, not the operator. With GNER being the first operator to run the franchise since privatisation, this has stuck - likewise with Virgin Trains running the West Coast since privatisation.
"NT" for Northern Rail too; since they were originally Arriva Trains Northern since privatisation until 2004; running as Northern Spirit (with the exception of TransPennine Express services) since 1998.

Why others have changed since; such as London Midland being LM - this may have been to do with the splitting or formation of other franchises. London Midland was formed from Central Trains and Silverlink when it was formed in 2007.

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northern156

24 Sep 2015, 5:24 pm #483

(22 Sep 2015, 10:10 pm)LeeCalder On Saturday, Virgin Trains dropped the "East Coast" part of the name. Therefore meaning that the TOC is now called Virgin Trains and not Virgin Trains East Coast.

However, the code will remain as 'GR' which actuallty stands for GNER!

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Michael

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25 Sep 2015, 11:03 am #484

New train service launched for Sunderland

http://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/busin...-1-7480538

Can't find if Virgin/East cost are doing more than just the new 5.40am departure, arriving in London King’s Cross at 9.08am. With the return service departing London at 8pm. Both services will be faster than existing direct trains to Sunderland, by seven minutes southbound and 11 minutes northbound.

Edited 25 Sep 2015, 11:18 am by Michael.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Michael

25 Sep 2015, 11:03 am #484

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

omnicity4659

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25 Sep 2015, 3:57 pm #485

(25 Sep 2015, 11:03 am)Michael New train service launched for Sunderland

http://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/busin...-1-7480538

Can't find if Virgin/East cost are doing more than just the new 5.40am departure, arriving in London King’s Cross at 9.08am. With the return service departing London at 8pm. Both services will be faster than existing direct trains to Sunderland, by seven minutes southbound and 11 minutes northbound.

Yes, Virgin Trains (on the East Coast) are only doing the one outbound and one inbound service per day. Smile

omnicity4659

25 Sep 2015, 3:57 pm #485

(25 Sep 2015, 11:03 am)Michael New train service launched for Sunderland

http://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/busin...-1-7480538

Can't find if Virgin/East cost are doing more than just the new 5.40am departure, arriving in London King’s Cross at 9.08am. With the return service departing London at 8pm. Both services will be faster than existing direct trains to Sunderland, by seven minutes southbound and 11 minutes northbound.

Yes, Virgin Trains (on the East Coast) are only doing the one outbound and one inbound service per day. Smile

Michael

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25 Sep 2015, 3:59 pm #486

(25 Sep 2015, 3:57 pm)GX03 SVC Yes, Virgin Trains (on the East Coast) are only doing the one outbound and one inbound service per day.

Hopefully they add more in the future... i don't have much interest in trains... any idea what they'll use on the service?

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Michael

25 Sep 2015, 3:59 pm #486

(25 Sep 2015, 3:57 pm)GX03 SVC Yes, Virgin Trains (on the East Coast) are only doing the one outbound and one inbound service per day.

Hopefully they add more in the future... i don't have much interest in trains... any idea what they'll use on the service?

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

omnicity4659

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25 Sep 2015, 4:00 pm #487

(25 Sep 2015, 3:59 pm)Michael Hopefully they add more in the future... i don't have much interest in trains... any idea what they'll use on the service?

HSTs.

omnicity4659

25 Sep 2015, 4:00 pm #487

(25 Sep 2015, 3:59 pm)Michael Hopefully they add more in the future... i don't have much interest in trains... any idea what they'll use on the service?

HSTs.

S813 FVK

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25 Sep 2015, 4:01 pm #488

(25 Sep 2015, 4:00 pm)GX03 SVC HSTs.

Will all 9 carriages be able to fit on the platform or will it be a case of some overhanging/not reaching the platform?

Edited 25 Sep 2015, 4:02 pm by S813 FVK.

S813 FVK

25 Sep 2015, 4:01 pm #488

(25 Sep 2015, 4:00 pm)GX03 SVC HSTs.

Will all 9 carriages be able to fit on the platform or will it be a case of some overhanging/not reaching the platform?

Michael

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25 Sep 2015, 4:02 pm #489

(25 Sep 2015, 4:00 pm)GX03 SVC HSTs.

Cheers, =)

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Michael

25 Sep 2015, 4:02 pm #489

(25 Sep 2015, 4:00 pm)GX03 SVC HSTs.

Cheers, =)

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

NK53 TKT

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25 Sep 2015, 4:05 pm #490

(25 Sep 2015, 4:00 pm)GX03 SVC HSTs.

Will they go via Newcastle or Eaglescliffe?

NK53 TKT

25 Sep 2015, 4:05 pm #490

(25 Sep 2015, 4:00 pm)GX03 SVC HSTs.

Will they go via Newcastle or Eaglescliffe?

S813 FVK

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25 Sep 2015, 4:08 pm #491

(25 Sep 2015, 4:05 pm)NK53 TKT Will they go via Newcastle or Eaglescliffe?

They will go to London via Newcastle.

S813 FVK

25 Sep 2015, 4:08 pm #491

(25 Sep 2015, 4:05 pm)NK53 TKT Will they go via Newcastle or Eaglescliffe?

They will go to London via Newcastle.

NK53 TKT

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25 Sep 2015, 4:10 pm #492

(25 Sep 2015, 4:08 pm)S813 FVK They will go to London via Newcastle.

Assuming there is no stop at Heworth then Tongue

NK53 TKT

25 Sep 2015, 4:10 pm #492

(25 Sep 2015, 4:08 pm)S813 FVK They will go to London via Newcastle.

Assuming there is no stop at Heworth then Tongue

S813 FVK

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25 Sep 2015, 4:12 pm #493

(25 Sep 2015, 4:10 pm)NK53 TKT Assuming there is no stop at Heworth then

No haha! Non stop from Sunderland to Newcastle vice versa.

S813 FVK

25 Sep 2015, 4:12 pm #493

(25 Sep 2015, 4:10 pm)NK53 TKT Assuming there is no stop at Heworth then

No haha! Non stop from Sunderland to Newcastle vice versa.

Michael

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25 Sep 2015, 4:12 pm #494

Its route according to the East Coast/Virgin website.

5:40am
Sunderland
Newcastle
Durham
Darlington
York
Peterboroug
London Kings Cross

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Michael

25 Sep 2015, 4:12 pm #494

Its route according to the East Coast/Virgin website.

5:40am
Sunderland
Newcastle
Durham
Darlington
York
Peterboroug
London Kings Cross

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Andreos1

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25 Sep 2015, 4:19 pm #495

(25 Sep 2015, 4:01 pm)S813 FVK Will all 9 carriages be able to fit on the platform or will it be a case of some overhanging/not reaching the platform?

The GC fit, but obviously they are a few carriages short, of a full VTEC set.

It will be interesting to see.

The other point to make, is that Sunderland has 4 platform numbers, despite only having one island platform.

I am wondering which platforms they arrive/depart from.
If using a southbound platform from London, is the driver going to change ends and head back to Heaton?
Or is it going to arrive on the Northbound platform?

The wiki, has the track layout. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunderland_station

'Illegitimis non carborundum'

Andreos1

25 Sep 2015, 4:19 pm #495

(25 Sep 2015, 4:01 pm)S813 FVK Will all 9 carriages be able to fit on the platform or will it be a case of some overhanging/not reaching the platform?

'Illegitimis non carborundum'

Dan

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25 Sep 2015, 4:32 pm #496

(25 Sep 2015, 4:19 pm)Andreos1 The GC fit, but obviously they are a few carriages short, of a full VTEC set.

It will be interesting to see.

The other point to make, is that Sunderland has 4 platform numbers, despite only having one island platform.

I am wondering which platforms they arrive/depart from.
If using a southbound platform from London, is the driver going to change ends and head back to Heaton?
Or is it going to arrive on the Northbound platform?

The wiki, has the track layout. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunderland_station

The Grand Central trains depart from the South Hylton bound Metro platform. When there are delays / timing 'collisions', the South Hylton bound Metros serve the Airport bound Metro platform.

I would imagine the same will apply?

Dan

25 Sep 2015, 4:32 pm #496

(25 Sep 2015, 4:19 pm)Andreos1 The GC fit, but obviously they are a few carriages short, of a full VTEC set.

It will be interesting to see.

The other point to make, is that Sunderland has 4 platform numbers, despite only having one island platform.

I am wondering which platforms they arrive/depart from.
If using a southbound platform from London, is the driver going to change ends and head back to Heaton?
Or is it going to arrive on the Northbound platform?

The wiki, has the track layout. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunderland_station

citaro5284

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25 Sep 2015, 4:35 pm #497

(25 Sep 2015, 4:12 pm)Michael Its route according to the East Coast/Virgin website.

5:40am
Sunderland
Newcastle
Durham
Darlington
York
Peterboroug
London Kings Cross

It will do the current 0559 from Newcastle which is a HST, just starting at Sunderland.

citaro5284

25 Sep 2015, 4:35 pm #497

(25 Sep 2015, 4:12 pm)Michael Its route according to the East Coast/Virgin website.

5:40am
Sunderland
Newcastle
Durham
Darlington
York
Peterboroug
London Kings Cross

It will do the current 0559 from Newcastle which is a HST, just starting at Sunderland.

Michael

19,175

25 Sep 2015, 4:36 pm #498

(25 Sep 2015, 4:35 pm)citaro5284 It will do the current 0559 from Newcastle which is a HST, just starting at Sunderland.

Cheers Citaro, i have no idea about trains haha

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Michael

25 Sep 2015, 4:36 pm #498

(25 Sep 2015, 4:35 pm)citaro5284 It will do the current 0559 from Newcastle which is a HST, just starting at Sunderland.

Cheers Citaro, i have no idea about trains haha

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

LeeCalder

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25 Sep 2015, 10:25 pm #499

From what I've been told at SMT at Newcastle, they will go..

Newcastle - Sunderland - Newcastle

LeeCalder

25 Sep 2015, 10:25 pm #499

From what I've been told at SMT at Newcastle, they will go..

Newcastle - Sunderland - Newcastle

LeeCalder

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25 Sep 2015, 10:35 pm #500

On another note...

Virgin Trains (East Coast) 91114 "Durham Cathedral" is almost ready for service!

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LeeCalder

25 Sep 2015, 10:35 pm #500

On another note...

Virgin Trains (East Coast) 91114 "Durham Cathedral" is almost ready for service!

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