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Andreos1   20 Dec 2015, 10:56 am
(19 Dec 2015, 10:18 pm)Adrian wrote Although that's more a promotional livery for Sunderland City Council's joint events company (with private sector partners). I'd imagine GNE benefit from displaying that livery, financially or otherwise.

I wonder if NE1/Alive after 5 (or whatever it is called these days), decide to get involved?
In a similar vein to the way the radio stations all jumped on the bandwagon.

Just need 'the original' Radio Newcastle livery back!

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
DanPicken   20 Dec 2015, 11:43 am
What services won't be using their correct allocation on Boxing Day?
Michael   20 Dec 2015, 11:46 am
(20 Dec 2015, 11:43 am)DanPicken wrote What services won't be using their correct allocation on Boxing Day?

I think Dan said the 47? 

Some reason the 47 came to my head.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Davie   20 Dec 2015, 11:49 am
(20 Dec 2015, 11:46 am)Michael wrote I think Dan said the 47? 

Some reason the 47 came to my head.
I think service 47 will be operated by Stanley depot, opposed to Riverside.
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S813 FVK   20 Dec 2015, 11:52 am
(20 Dec 2015, 11:46 am)Michael wrote I think Dan said the 47? 

Some reason the 47 came to my head.

Yes - Dan said that one of the only services not to use its normal allocation will be the 47 as it will be operated out of Stanley as opposed to Riverside. I think Northern Omnidekkas were said to be operating the service at some point?
DanPicken   20 Dec 2015, 11:58 am
(20 Dec 2015, 11:52 am)S813 FVK wrote Yes - Dan said that one of the only services not to use its normal allocation will be the 47 as it will be operated out of Stanley as opposed to Riverside. I think Northern Omnidekkas were said to be operating the service at some point?

Sure Geminis would be better.
citaro5284   20 Dec 2015, 12:09 pm
(20 Dec 2015, 11:58 am)DanPicken wrote Sure Geminis would be better.

Do Stanley have any Geminis - oh thats right, no they don't.
Dan   20 Dec 2015, 12:19 pm
(20 Dec 2015, 11:52 am)S813 FVK wrote Yes - Dan said that one of the only services not to use its normal allocation will be the 47 as it will be operated out of Stanley as opposed to Riverside. I think Northern Omnidekkas were said to be operating the service at some point?

Any other 'wrong brand' allocations will merely be double-deck vehicles covering on services which are expected to see high passenger numbers.
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Diamond One   20 Dec 2015, 3:37 pm
(20 Dec 2015, 7:39 am)citaro5284 wrote I see a Scania double deck has now being produced with MMC bodywork.....hopefully GNE might get this as a demo.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/gcbp/23749...ateposted/
looks smart wouldnt mind trying that perhaps they may order these possible route X9/X10
(20 Dec 2015, 8:36 am)S813 FVK wrote Do the X30 and X31 actually interwork? I saw 5241 doing 3 consecutive journeys yesterday morning and all three were on service X30.

far as am aware yes
Dan   20 Dec 2015, 3:43 pm
(20 Dec 2015, 8:36 am)S813 FVK wrote Do the X30 and X31 actually interwork? I saw 5241 doing 3 consecutive journeys yesterday morning and all three were on service X30.

(20 Dec 2015, 3:37 pm)Diamond One wrote far as am aware yes

During the day, services X30 and X31 do not interwork.

However, on a night, vehicles which have operated service X31 during the day end up operating service X30.
dannygee   20 Dec 2015, 9:24 pm
The 1 were operated and interworked with the cobalt clippers last year. Same happeming this year?
Diamond One   21 Dec 2015, 1:33 am
(20 Dec 2015, 3:43 pm)Dan wrote During the day, services X30 and X31 do not interwork.

However, on a night, vehicles which have operated service X31 during the day end up operating service X30.
thought they interworked during the day like as a pattern X30 to Stanley and X31 to Newcastle X31 to Stanley and X30 to Newcastle
(20 Dec 2015, 9:24 pm)dannygee wrote The 1 were operated and interworked with the cobalt clippers last year. Same happeming this year?

last year was (on boxing day) i was unable to witness this as i was at a Sunderland match which was against Hull City which ended up Hull City winning 3-1 (Gaston Ramirez, James Chester, Nikica Jelavic all 3 are no longer at club with Ramirez returned to Southampton, Chester now at West Brom and Jelavic now at West Ham) (Adam Johnson) as Dan reported all buses bar the 47 is gonna be Streetlite operation from Stanley depot as opposed to Riverside depot doing the 47
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S813 FVK   21 Dec 2015, 8:39 am
(21 Dec 2015, 1:33 am)Diamond One wrote thought they interworked during the day like as a pattern X30 to Stanley and X31 to Newcastle X31 to Stanley and X30 to Newcastle

Thats how i thought it worked too but after seeing 5241 3 times all on an X30, i doubted it.
S813 FVK   21 Dec 2015, 10:23 am
The bottom left of 6131s front number plate has chipped off - the bottom of the 'Y' is missing but the letter is still readable.
dannygee   21 Dec 2015, 10:39 am
Will there be special destinations for 309 and 1 seen as there not doing normal destination routes. Well the 1 is but extending
Diamond One   21 Dec 2015, 11:29 am
(21 Dec 2015, 10:39 am)dannygee wrote Will there be special destinations for 309 and 1 seen as there not doing normal destination routes. Well the 1 is but extending

Dan will sort out the special destinations he Probs already has but hasn't revealed what it will lookalike yet we may get a sneek peak of what's to come
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Dan   21 Dec 2015, 12:48 pm
(20 Dec 2015, 9:24 pm)dannygee wrote The 1 were operated and interworked with the cobalt clippers last year. Same happeming this year?

Well as it's only a week away, and many of you will be toying up the idea of whether it's worth going out or not... See below for a list of allocations - subject to change but gives you all a rough idea:


Chester-le-Street
  • Service 21 - PVR 12 - Angel Volvo B5LH, interworking with service X21
  • Service X21 - PVR 1 - Angel Volvo B5LH, interworking with service 21

Deptford
  • Service 2 - PVR 6 - SimpliCity Versa
  • Service 9 - PVR 3 - GNE Red Scania L94
  • Service 20 - PVR 7 - Fab56 Volvo B9TL & GNE Red Volvo B9TL
  • Service 35A/X35 - PVR 6 - See it Do it Citaro
  • Service 56 - PVR 8 - Fab56 Volvo B9TL
  • Service 60 - PVR 2.5 - Drifter Streetlite, interworking with service 60.
  • Service 61 - PVR 2.5 - Drifter Streetlite, interworking with service 60.
Percy Main
  • Service 1 - PVR 2 - Coaster OmniCity
  • Service 309/310 - PVR 8 - Cobalt Clipper Volvo B9TL

Riverside
  • Service 10 - PVR 8 - TEN Volvo B9TL & GNE Red B9TL 6084
  • Service 27 - PVR 7 - Crusader Citaro
  • Service 49/49A - PVR 6 - Blaydon Racers Citaro
  • Service 53/54 - PVR 4 - Saltwell Park Streetlite
  • Service 58 - PVR 8 - Citylink Versa
  • Service 97 - PVR 4 - Green Arrow Scania L94
  • Service Q1/Q2 - PVR 6 - Quaylink Versa
  • Service Q3/Q3A - PVR 5 - Tyne Tees Xpress & Red Kite Volvo B9TL
  • Service X50 - PVR 4 - GNE Red Volvo B7TL
  • Service X66 - PVR 3 - X66 Streetlite

Stanley
  • Service 6 - PVR 3 - Northern OmniDekka, interworking with service X30.
  • Service 16A - PVR 1.5 - Durham Diamond Citaro, interworking with service V7.
  • Service 47 - PVR 5 - Northern OmniDekka
  • Service V7 - PVR 1.5 - Durham Diamond Citaro, interworking with service 16A.
  • Service X30 - PVR 2 - Northern OmniDekka, interworking with service 6.
Washington
  • Service 4 - PVR 4 - Connections4 Citaro
  • Service 88 - PVR 4 - South Tyne Versa
  • Service X1 - PVR 7 - Red Arrows Volvo B9TL

Total requirement of 141 vehicles - a vast improvement compared to years gone by, with the Boxing Day network having expanded and additional resources being allocated to services which suffered delays last year to improve reliability.


(21 Dec 2015, 10:39 am)dannygee wrote Will there be special destinations for 309 and 1 seen as there not doing normal destination routes. Well the 1 is but extending

(21 Dec 2015, 11:29 am)Diamond One wrote Dan will sort out the special destinations he Probs already has but hasn't revealed what it will lookalike yet we may get a sneek peak of what's to come

Yes - special destinations have been programmed for services 1 (Whitley Bay - North Shields Ferry, with appropriate via points); 47 (Newcastle - Consett, with appropriate via points); 309 (Newcastle - North Shields, with appropriate via points) and Q3/Q3A (Newcastle - Great Park - Cramlington, with appropriate via points).

The Next Stop Announcements will not work on services 309 and Q3/Q3A, as these are set up under special route codes in the destination controller.
R852 PRG   21 Dec 2015, 12:55 pm
(21 Dec 2015, 12:48 pm)Dan wrote Total requirement of 141 vehicles - a vast improvement compared to years gone by, with the Boxing Day network having expanded and additional resources being allocated to services which suffered delays last year to improve reliability.

Excellent to see that Go North East is providing such a vast number of services, it's just a shame some other operators don't bother.
S813 FVK   21 Dec 2015, 12:55 pm
PVRs of .5s? Explain please haha (i'm certain it isn't a typo error either)

Quite glad they have done something with the V7 (although upgrading its capacity was a no brainer) - lets see what they choose to do on Bank Holidays.
Dan   21 Dec 2015, 12:58 pm
(21 Dec 2015, 12:55 pm)R852 PRG wrote Excellent to see that Go North East is providing such a vast number of services, it's just a shame some other operators don't bother.

I think we'll see Arriva operate some services out of Jesmond or Blyth next year - it'll be a real kick in the teeth, seeing another operator operate one of your services on a commercial basis, using double-deck vehicles (assuming the predicted demand is there!)

(21 Dec 2015, 12:55 pm)S813 FVK wrote PVRs of .5s? Explain please haha (i'm certain it isn't a typo error either)

Those services noted with a PVR of .5 interwork with another service - add the two up together and you'll get a whole number.
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R852 PRG   21 Dec 2015, 12:58 pm
(21 Dec 2015, 12:55 pm)S813 FVK wrote PVRs of .5s? Explain please haha (i'm certain it isn't a typo error either)

Quite glad they have done something with the V7 (although upgrading its capacity was a no brainer) - lets see what they choose to do on Bank Holidays.

Guessing that with the 60 and 61 interworking, the total PVR is 5 vehicles (with 2.5 on the list for both, making a total of 5 vehicles), and a PVR of 3 for the 16A and V7 (1.5 for each on the list, making a total of 3).
Jimmi   21 Dec 2015, 1:00 pm
(21 Dec 2015, 12:58 pm)Dan wrote I think we'll see Arriva operate some services out of Jesmond or Blyth next year - it'll be a real kick in the teeth, seeing another operator operate one of your services on a commercial basis, using double-deck vehicles (assuming the predicted demand is there!)

I think we won't see this happen for a long time yet!
S813 FVK   21 Dec 2015, 1:01 pm
(21 Dec 2015, 12:58 pm)Dan wrote Those services noted with a PVR of .5 interwork with another service - add the two up together and you'll get a whole number.

Oh dear, as simple has that haha! Thanks.
Dan   21 Dec 2015, 1:02 pm
(21 Dec 2015, 1:00 pm)Jimmi wrote I think we won't see this happen for a long time yet!

Depends who's running the show - the company's union reps, or the senior management who can spot a commercial opportunity...
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Diamond One   21 Dec 2015, 3:27 pm
Dan where's the Go North East bot?
It should have posted this message "New coaches delivered for National Express are Volvo/Caetano 7120: BX65 WDA, 7121: BX65 WDC, 7122: BX65 WDD and 7123: BX65 WDE. Vehicles transferred over the weekend are Volvo B10BLEs 4903, 4906 & 4907 from Riverside to Deptford and 4911 from Percy Main to Deptford; DAF SB120s 8270 & 8271 from Deptford to Washington and 8259 & 8260 have been withdrawn from Deptford." remember to edit my post as soon as the Go North East bot does its task e.g get rid of the fleet news on this post
Michael   21 Dec 2015, 3:31 pm
(21 Dec 2015, 3:27 pm)Diamond One wrote Dan where's the Go North East bot?
It should have posted this message "New coaches delivered for National Express are Volvo/Caetano 7120: BX65 WDA, 7121: BX65 WDC, 7122: BX65 WDD and 7123: BX65 WDE. Vehicles transferred over the weekend are Volvo B10BLEs 4903, 4906 & 4907 from Riverside to Deptford and 4911 from Percy Main to Deptford; DAF SB120s 8270 & 8271 from Deptford to Washington and 8259 & 8260 have been withdrawn from Deptford." remember to edit my post as soon as the Go North East bot does its task

Hes on holiday.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Diamond One   21 Dec 2015, 3:32 pm
(21 Dec 2015, 3:31 pm)Michael wrote Hes on holiday.

Bots never go on holiday
Michael   21 Dec 2015, 3:35 pm
Glad to see the Cadets are going, more B10's the better.

Any idea why Washington has received 8270 8271?, only asking because Washington hasn't lost or withdrawn anything.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
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Diamond One   21 Dec 2015, 4:25 pm
(21 Dec 2015, 3:35 pm)Michael wrote Glad to see the Cadets are going, more B10's the better.

Any idea why Washington has received 8270 8271?, only asking because Washington hasn't lost or withdrawn anything.

Could be because there planning to withdraw some more darts thus why 8270 and 8271 have transferred over to replace them
Michael   21 Dec 2015, 4:38 pm
(21 Dec 2015, 4:25 pm)Diamond One wrote Could be because there planning to withdraw some more darts thus why 8270 and 8271 have transferred over to replace them

Could be, not sure if the 85/86 warrant cadets though.

Dan or Citaro will know... whether they tell us or not is another question........

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
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