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05 Mar 2016, 6:20 pm #181
(05 Mar 2016, 5:37 pm)G-CPTN I cannot imagine that it is confined to the Tynedale Express solars, but does the roof panel problem also include the Eclipses?

Sometimes it can but its more common in Solars because there's more of them
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South Tyne Lad
05 Mar 2016, 6:20 pm #181

(05 Mar 2016, 5:37 pm)G-CPTN I cannot imagine that it is confined to the Tynedale Express solars, but does the roof panel problem also include the Eclipses?

Sometimes it can but its more common in Solars because there's more of them

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05 Mar 2016, 7:24 pm #182
What is going to happen to the old Deckers at Crook now the new 16 reg ones are about to enter service.
BUSFAN
05 Mar 2016, 7:24 pm #182

What is going to happen to the old Deckers at Crook now the new 16 reg ones are about to enter service.

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05 Mar 2016, 7:26 pm #183
(05 Mar 2016, 7:24 pm)BUSFAN What is going to happen to the old Deckers at Crook now the new 16 reg ones are about to enter service.

Don't think anything's been confirmed about the Future of the Pronto B7TLs but id put a bet they will probs become Red Spares.
Red Spare 6038 is staying at Crook as a Spare
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South Tyne Lad
05 Mar 2016, 7:26 pm #183

(05 Mar 2016, 7:24 pm)BUSFAN What is going to happen to the old Deckers at Crook now the new 16 reg ones are about to enter service.

Don't think anything's been confirmed about the Future of the Pronto B7TLs but id put a bet they will probs become Red Spares.
Red Spare 6038 is staying at Crook as a Spare

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05 Mar 2016, 7:30 pm #184
(05 Mar 2016, 7:24 pm)BUSFAN What is going to happen to the old Deckers at Crook now the new 16 reg ones are about to enter service.

3 are getting withdrawn, 1 is going to replace something else in the fleet for a short period of time and another 2 are going to be float vehicles short term as we have some vehicles having work done under Group projects.
citaro5284
05 Mar 2016, 7:30 pm #184

(05 Mar 2016, 7:24 pm)BUSFAN What is going to happen to the old Deckers at Crook now the new 16 reg ones are about to enter service.

3 are getting withdrawn, 1 is going to replace something else in the fleet for a short period of time and another 2 are going to be float vehicles short term as we have some vehicles having work done under Group projects.

BUSFAN



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05 Mar 2016, 7:31 pm #185
(05 Mar 2016, 7:26 pm)South Tyne Lad Don't think anything's been confirmed about the Future of the Pronto B7TLs but id put a bet they will probs become Red Spares.
Red Spare 6038 is staying at Crook as a Spare

Cheers for the info a while back i was told that some Mercs were going to Crook for the pronto service but guess now 16 reg Buses are arriving this will not be the case.
BUSFAN
05 Mar 2016, 7:31 pm #185

(05 Mar 2016, 7:26 pm)South Tyne Lad Don't think anything's been confirmed about the Future of the Pronto B7TLs but id put a bet they will probs become Red Spares.
Red Spare 6038 is staying at Crook as a Spare

Cheers for the info a while back i was told that some Mercs were going to Crook for the pronto service but guess now 16 reg Buses are arriving this will not be the case.

DanPicken

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05 Mar 2016, 7:36 pm #186
(05 Mar 2016, 7:30 pm)citaro5284 3 are getting withdrawn, 1 is going to replace something else in the fleet for a short period of time and another 2 are going to be float vehicles short term as we have some vehicles having work done under Group projects.
One to replace 6020?
DanPicken
05 Mar 2016, 7:36 pm #186

(05 Mar 2016, 7:30 pm)citaro5284 3 are getting withdrawn, 1 is going to replace something else in the fleet for a short period of time and another 2 are going to be float vehicles short term as we have some vehicles having work done under Group projects.
One to replace 6020?

Michael



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05 Mar 2016, 7:51 pm #187
(05 Mar 2016, 7:30 pm)citaro5284 3 are getting withdrawn, 1 is going to replace something else in the fleet for a short period of time and another 2 are going to be float vehicles short term as we have some vehicles having work done under Group projects.

Thanks for the info Citaro.

Surprised 3 are getting withdrawn, thought they would of replaced the Loylnes however with amount complaints on here about them, not surprising!
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Michael
05 Mar 2016, 7:51 pm #187

(05 Mar 2016, 7:30 pm)citaro5284 3 are getting withdrawn, 1 is going to replace something else in the fleet for a short period of time and another 2 are going to be float vehicles short term as we have some vehicles having work done under Group projects.

Thanks for the info Citaro.

Surprised 3 are getting withdrawn, thought they would of replaced the Loylnes however with amount complaints on here about them, not surprising!

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

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05 Mar 2016, 7:57 pm #188
(05 Mar 2016, 7:51 pm)Michael Thanks for the info Citaro.

Surprised 3 are getting withdrawn, thought they would of replaced the Loylnes however with amount complaints on here about them, not surprising!

6037 was really struggling with the hills, today. I can't see that having much future.
Edited 05 Mar 2016, 7:57 pm by BusLoverMum.
BusLoverMum
05 Mar 2016, 7:57 pm #188

(05 Mar 2016, 7:51 pm)Michael Thanks for the info Citaro.

Surprised 3 are getting withdrawn, thought they would of replaced the Loylnes however with amount complaints on here about them, not surprising!

6037 was really struggling with the hills, today. I can't see that having much future.

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05 Mar 2016, 8:04 pm #189
(05 Mar 2016, 7:57 pm)BusLoverMum 6037 was really struggling with the hills, today. I can't see that having much future.

How any miles will a V-reg vehicle have accumulated?

Will a Volvo B7 have reached its 'end of life'? - I expect that the answer is 'no', and these will go on to serve smaller operators.
Edited 05 Mar 2016, 8:06 pm by G-CPTN.
G-CPTN
05 Mar 2016, 8:04 pm #189

(05 Mar 2016, 7:57 pm)BusLoverMum 6037 was really struggling with the hills, today. I can't see that having much future.

How any miles will a V-reg vehicle have accumulated?

Will a Volvo B7 have reached its 'end of life'? - I expect that the answer is 'no', and these will go on to serve smaller operators.

BusLoverMum



5,288
05 Mar 2016, 8:10 pm #190
(05 Mar 2016, 8:04 pm)G-CPTN How any miles will a V-reg vehicle have accumulated?

Will a Volvo B7 have reached its 'end of life'? - I expect that the answer is 'no', and these will go on to serve smaller operators.

Probably a hell of a lot more than the 51 reg car we got rid of at just shy of 125K, at just shy of 10 years old! I'd be guessing 7 figures, in fact.

I'm sure they'd suit an operator like Garnett's, after a thorough overhaul, but their days of 400 miles a day are well and truly over.
BusLoverMum
05 Mar 2016, 8:10 pm #190

(05 Mar 2016, 8:04 pm)G-CPTN How any miles will a V-reg vehicle have accumulated?

Will a Volvo B7 have reached its 'end of life'? - I expect that the answer is 'no', and these will go on to serve smaller operators.

Probably a hell of a lot more than the 51 reg car we got rid of at just shy of 125K, at just shy of 10 years old! I'd be guessing 7 figures, in fact.

I'm sure they'd suit an operator like Garnett's, after a thorough overhaul, but their days of 400 miles a day are well and truly over.

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05 Mar 2016, 9:23 pm #191
(05 Mar 2016, 7:57 pm)BusLoverMum 6037 was really struggling with the hills, today. I can't see that having much future.

Try catching 6009, 6013 or 6030 when on service 15, lucky if they reach 10mph getting up to iveston.
(05 Mar 2016, 7:36 pm)DanPicken One to replace 6020?

3873 needs replacing at stanley.
Edited 05 Mar 2016, 9:24 pm by wise owl.
wise owl
05 Mar 2016, 9:23 pm #191

(05 Mar 2016, 7:57 pm)BusLoverMum 6037 was really struggling with the hills, today. I can't see that having much future.

Try catching 6009, 6013 or 6030 when on service 15, lucky if they reach 10mph getting up to iveston.
(05 Mar 2016, 7:36 pm)DanPicken One to replace 6020?

3873 needs replacing at stanley.

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05 Mar 2016, 9:25 pm #192
(05 Mar 2016, 9:23 pm)wise owl Try catching 6009, 6013 or 6030 when on service 15, lucky if they reach 10mph getting up to iveston.

Or even 6042 on the x1
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05 Mar 2016, 9:25 pm #192

(05 Mar 2016, 9:23 pm)wise owl Try catching 6009, 6013 or 6030 when on service 15, lucky if they reach 10mph getting up to iveston.

Or even 6042 on the x1

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05 Mar 2016, 9:27 pm #193
(05 Mar 2016, 7:51 pm)Michael Thanks for the info Citaro.

Surprised 3 are getting withdrawn, thought they would of replaced the Loylnes however with amount complaints on here about them, not surprising!

6021 has already gone, wonder which other 2 are.
wise owl
05 Mar 2016, 9:27 pm #193

(05 Mar 2016, 7:51 pm)Michael Thanks for the info Citaro.

Surprised 3 are getting withdrawn, thought they would of replaced the Loylnes however with amount complaints on here about them, not surprising!

6021 has already gone, wonder which other 2 are.

Michael



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05 Mar 2016, 9:31 pm #194
(05 Mar 2016, 9:27 pm)wise owl 6021 has already gone, wonder which other 2 are.

It has but Citaro was talking about the current 6 branded ones still in service.
Edited 05 Mar 2016, 9:33 pm by Michael.
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Michael
05 Mar 2016, 9:31 pm #194

(05 Mar 2016, 9:27 pm)wise owl 6021 has already gone, wonder which other 2 are.

It has but Citaro was talking about the current 6 branded ones still in service.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

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05 Mar 2016, 10:56 pm #195
Wonder what the 'Group projects' are. Nothing that we don't already know about?
S813 FVK
05 Mar 2016, 10:56 pm #195

Wonder what the 'Group projects' are. Nothing that we don't already know about?

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06 Mar 2016, 1:48 am #196
(05 Mar 2016, 7:51 pm)Michael Thanks for the info Citaro.

Surprised 3 are getting withdrawn, thought they would of replaced the Loylnes however with amount complaints on here about them, not surprising!

It might not be surprising but I wonder if in hindsight GNE might of made a mistake of not ordering new vehicles for the X21 sooner than they have so the current vehicles would not of been on such a long demanding route for so long? Just seem strange some buses are being withdrawn whilst others of the very same type has just recently received red re-paints! 

Still, if they are not needed and if they can still be able to sold on to another operator or for scrap at a decent price whilst not hampering the service due to a lack of spare buses then I suppose its good business sence.
Bus_User
06 Mar 2016, 1:48 am #196

(05 Mar 2016, 7:51 pm)Michael Thanks for the info Citaro.

Surprised 3 are getting withdrawn, thought they would of replaced the Loylnes however with amount complaints on here about them, not surprising!

It might not be surprising but I wonder if in hindsight GNE might of made a mistake of not ordering new vehicles for the X21 sooner than they have so the current vehicles would not of been on such a long demanding route for so long? Just seem strange some buses are being withdrawn whilst others of the very same type has just recently received red re-paints! 

Still, if they are not needed and if they can still be able to sold on to another operator or for scrap at a decent price whilst not hampering the service due to a lack of spare buses then I suppose its good business sence.

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06 Mar 2016, 2:12 am #197
When did the trident/plaxtons become stanley based?
Jamie M
06 Mar 2016, 2:12 am #197

When did the trident/plaxtons become stanley based?

DanPicken

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06 Mar 2016, 5:58 am #198
(05 Mar 2016, 7:51 pm)Michael Thanks for the info Citaro.

Surprised 3 are getting withdrawn, thought they would of replaced the Loylnes however with amount complaints on here about them, not surprising!
I've heard that 6024/40/1 are gone, gutted 6024 was good.
DanPicken
06 Mar 2016, 5:58 am #198

(05 Mar 2016, 7:51 pm)Michael Thanks for the info Citaro.

Surprised 3 are getting withdrawn, thought they would of replaced the Loylnes however with amount complaints on here about them, not surprising!
I've heard that 6024/40/1 are gone, gutted 6024 was good.

Dan

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06 Mar 2016, 7:25 am #199
(05 Mar 2016, 10:56 pm)S813 FVK Wonder what the 'Group projects' are. Nothing that we don't already know about?

Enthusiasts will know of one - the GKN flywheel modifications. Volvo B7TL 6020 was originally the float vehicle for this purpose, but was absorbed into the main service fleet at Chester-le-Street in November as a replacement for Dennis Trident/East Lancs Lolyne 3868 (W178 SCU), which was withdrawn due to engine issues.

6024, 6037 and 6041 are the examples which have been withdrawn. 6035 is due to transfer to Stanley as a temporary replacement for 3873. 6034 and 6040 will become the temporary float vehicles for group projects - based at Deptford and Washington respectively. I'd anticipate that the depots will make every effort to allocate these vehicles to scholars only, given that they won't be painted and will retain their blue livery.

6021 has been dismantled for spare parts at Saltmeadows Road. 6024 and 6037 may well be sold to Ensignbus, depending on the condition of these vehicles. 6041 is going to be donated to a third party, but there's a nice story that comes with this that Go North East may wish to do a story on, so I'll not give the game away just yet.
Dan
06 Mar 2016, 7:25 am #199

(05 Mar 2016, 10:56 pm)S813 FVK Wonder what the 'Group projects' are. Nothing that we don't already know about?

Enthusiasts will know of one - the GKN flywheel modifications. Volvo B7TL 6020 was originally the float vehicle for this purpose, but was absorbed into the main service fleet at Chester-le-Street in November as a replacement for Dennis Trident/East Lancs Lolyne 3868 (W178 SCU), which was withdrawn due to engine issues.

6024, 6037 and 6041 are the examples which have been withdrawn. 6035 is due to transfer to Stanley as a temporary replacement for 3873. 6034 and 6040 will become the temporary float vehicles for group projects - based at Deptford and Washington respectively. I'd anticipate that the depots will make every effort to allocate these vehicles to scholars only, given that they won't be painted and will retain their blue livery.

6021 has been dismantled for spare parts at Saltmeadows Road. 6024 and 6037 may well be sold to Ensignbus, depending on the condition of these vehicles. 6041 is going to be donated to a third party, but there's a nice story that comes with this that Go North East may wish to do a story on, so I'll not give the game away just yet.

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06 Mar 2016, 8:21 am #200
I thought maybe Weardale would have ended up with the old Pronto Deckers as over the years with having such close ties with GNE they have had quite a large amount of former Nortthern/GNE deckers.
BUSFAN
06 Mar 2016, 8:21 am #200

I thought maybe Weardale would have ended up with the old Pronto Deckers as over the years with having such close ties with GNE they have had quite a large amount of former Nortthern/GNE deckers.

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