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Davie
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15 Mar 2016, 5:15 pm
(15 Mar 2016, 5:15 pm)BJ10VUS The Solar board is for a school service requirement, isn't it?
Yes.
Davie
15 Mar 2016, 5:15 pm #601

(15 Mar 2016, 5:15 pm)BJ10VUS The Solar board is for a school service requirement, isn't it?
Yes.

6030
15 Mar 2016, 5:16 pm
(15 Mar 2016, 5:15 pm)BJ10VUS The Solar board is for a school service requirement, isn't it?

Yes, or it used to be. - they are still 1 Versa short anyway.
S813 FVK
15 Mar 2016, 5:16 pm #602

(15 Mar 2016, 5:15 pm)BJ10VUS The Solar board is for a school service requirement, isn't it?

Yes, or it used to be. - they are still 1 Versa short anyway.

15 Mar 2016, 5:16 pm
(15 Mar 2016, 5:15 pm)BJ10VUS The Solar board is for a school service requirement, isn't it?

Used to be a year or two ago, But now its allocated because of the shortage of South Tyne Versas.

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South Tyne Lad
15 Mar 2016, 5:16 pm #603

(15 Mar 2016, 5:15 pm)BJ10VUS The Solar board is for a school service requirement, isn't it?

Used to be a year or two ago, But now its allocated because of the shortage of South Tyne Versas.


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DanPicken
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15 Mar 2016, 5:17 pm
(15 Mar 2016, 5:15 pm)BJ10VUS The Solar board is for a school service requirement, isn't it?

(15 Mar 2016, 5:15 pm)Davie Yes.

No, it's because there isn't enough Versa's, when it was Cadets GNE had the Contract for the 819.
DanPicken
15 Mar 2016, 5:17 pm #604

(15 Mar 2016, 5:15 pm)BJ10VUS The Solar board is for a school service requirement, isn't it?

(15 Mar 2016, 5:15 pm)Davie Yes.

No, it's because there isn't enough Versa's, when it was Cadets GNE had the Contract for the 819.

Davie
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2783
15 Mar 2016, 5:18 pm
(15 Mar 2016, 5:17 pm)DanPicken No, it's because there isn't enough Versa's, when it was Cadets GNE had the Contract for the 819.
Never mind.
Davie
15 Mar 2016, 5:18 pm #605

(15 Mar 2016, 5:17 pm)DanPicken No, it's because there isn't enough Versa's, when it was Cadets GNE had the Contract for the 819.
Never mind.

19179
15 Mar 2016, 5:53 pm
(15 Mar 2016, 5:09 pm)South Tyne Lad The 88/88A already has a Solar board allocated as there's not enough Versas, Though 2 will appear till Friday as Dan said 8295 is out till Friday for PSV.
Because of the lack of branded Versas, I think its a good move moving the 88/A to Riverside which have a wider veriety of buses ( Aswell as spare Versas )  to allocate in the event of a Versa being VOR.

Still no news on the routing of the 88A? or is it getting withdrawn and all services becoming service 88?

Nothing is changing on the 88/88A, i think the change was due to it moving to Riverside?

Full registration from VOSA:



 PB0003954/677    
Variation Number
0
Status
Registered
Operator Name
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Service Number(s)
88 (88A)
Start Point
South Shields, Market
Finish Point
Hebburn, Lukes Lane Estate
Via
 
Service Type
Normal Stopping
Date Received
19-FEB-2016
Effective Date
17-APR-2016
End Date
-
TAOs covered by route
North East of England
Local Authorities covered by route
Nexus (Tyne & Wear)
N&P Reference
2222

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
15 Mar 2016, 5:53 pm #606

(15 Mar 2016, 5:09 pm)South Tyne Lad The 88/88A already has a Solar board allocated as there's not enough Versas, Though 2 will appear till Friday as Dan said 8295 is out till Friday for PSV.
Because of the lack of branded Versas, I think its a good move moving the 88/A to Riverside which have a wider veriety of buses ( Aswell as spare Versas )  to allocate in the event of a Versa being VOR.

Still no news on the routing of the 88A? or is it getting withdrawn and all services becoming service 88?

Nothing is changing on the 88/88A, i think the change was due to it moving to Riverside?

Full registration from VOSA:



 PB0003954/677    
Variation Number
0
Status
Registered
Operator Name
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Service Number(s)
88 (88A)
Start Point
South Shields, Market
Finish Point
Hebburn, Lukes Lane Estate
Via
 
Service Type
Normal Stopping
Date Received
19-FEB-2016
Effective Date
17-APR-2016
End Date
-
TAOs covered by route
North East of England
Local Authorities covered by route
Nexus (Tyne & Wear)
N&P Reference
2222


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

15 Mar 2016, 6:07 pm
(15 Mar 2016, 5:53 pm)Michael Nothing is changing on the 88/88A, i think the change was due to it moving to Riverside?

Full registration from VOSA:



 PB0003954/677    
Variation Number
0
Status
Registered
Operator Name
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Service Number(s)
88 (88A)
Start Point
South Shields, Market
Finish Point
Hebburn, Lukes Lane Estate
Via
 
Service Type
Normal Stopping
Date Received
19-FEB-2016
Effective Date
17-APR-2016
End Date
-
TAOs covered by route
North East of England
Local Authorities covered by route
Nexus (Tyne & Wear)
N&P Reference
2222

Ah right, Thanks for the info Smile

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South Tyne Lad
15 Mar 2016, 6:07 pm #607

(15 Mar 2016, 5:53 pm)Michael Nothing is changing on the 88/88A, i think the change was due to it moving to Riverside?

Full registration from VOSA:



 PB0003954/677    
Variation Number
0
Status
Registered
Operator Name
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Service Number(s)
88 (88A)
Start Point
South Shields, Market
Finish Point
Hebburn, Lukes Lane Estate
Via
 
Service Type
Normal Stopping
Date Received
19-FEB-2016
Effective Date
17-APR-2016
End Date
-
TAOs covered by route
North East of England
Local Authorities covered by route
Nexus (Tyne & Wear)
N&P Reference
2222

Ah right, Thanks for the info Smile


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19179
15 Mar 2016, 6:15 pm
(15 Mar 2016, 6:07 pm)South Tyne Lad Ah right, Thanks for the info  Smile

No prob's, =), The 78 is the same but on the detailed one, it still showed the 78A/X78 were running but they were in brackets. 


Hopefully changes are put online soon, a lot of services seem to be changing on the 17th April.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
15 Mar 2016, 6:15 pm #608

(15 Mar 2016, 6:07 pm)South Tyne Lad Ah right, Thanks for the info  Smile

No prob's, =), The 78 is the same but on the detailed one, it still showed the 78A/X78 were running but they were in brackets. 


Hopefully changes are put online soon, a lot of services seem to be changing on the 17th April.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

19179
15 Mar 2016, 6:56 pm
Dan or Citaro, when 9102 enters service, will you let us know what time journeys they'll be doing during the day and night?

Thanks =)

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
15 Mar 2016, 6:56 pm #609

Dan or Citaro, when 9102 enters service, will you let us know what time journeys they'll be doing during the day and night?

Thanks =)


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

15 Mar 2016, 7:17 pm
(15 Mar 2016, 6:56 pm)Michael Dan or Citaro, when 9102 enters service, will you let us know what time journeys they'll be doing during the day and night?

Thanks =)

Dan or 5284 will it enter service tommorow

4842
Best bus ever
biglugs@yahoo.com
15 Mar 2016, 7:17 pm #610

(15 Mar 2016, 6:56 pm)Michael Dan or Citaro, when 9102 enters service, will you let us know what time journeys they'll be doing during the day and night?

Thanks =)

Dan or 5284 will it enter service tommorow


4842
Best bus ever

406
15 Mar 2016, 7:38 pm
(15 Mar 2016, 4:25 pm)Michael I think 8328 should be repainted for it, they'll still have 5389/5390 as spares for the Versa routes.

I think Lambton Worm brand should be scrapped, allowing two versa to go to Riverside, and two to Deptford.  This would allow a full South Tyne versa allocation, with a corporate spare at Riverside, and two corporate Spares at Deptford.

4989-92 could then go on 34/34A.
park5354
15 Mar 2016, 7:38 pm #611

(15 Mar 2016, 4:25 pm)Michael I think 8328 should be repainted for it, they'll still have 5389/5390 as spares for the Versa routes.

I think Lambton Worm brand should be scrapped, allowing two versa to go to Riverside, and two to Deptford.  This would allow a full South Tyne versa allocation, with a corporate spare at Riverside, and two corporate Spares at Deptford.

4989-92 could then go on 34/34A.

15 Mar 2016, 7:41 pm
(15 Mar 2016, 7:38 pm)park5354 I think Lambton Worm brand should be scrapped, allowing two versa to go to Riverside, and two to Deptford.  This would allow a full South Tyne versa allocation, with a corporate spare at Riverside, and two corporate Spares at Deptford.

4989-92 could then go on 34/34A.

I agree, it has little relevance to the 34/34A route. I don't even think a vehicle the size of a Versa or Solar would be worth it, 4 of the MPDs would do the job, in my opinion. Some of them go around with only a few passengers on board.
R852 PRG
15 Mar 2016, 7:41 pm #612

(15 Mar 2016, 7:38 pm)park5354 I think Lambton Worm brand should be scrapped, allowing two versa to go to Riverside, and two to Deptford.  This would allow a full South Tyne versa allocation, with a corporate spare at Riverside, and two corporate Spares at Deptford.

4989-92 could then go on 34/34A.

I agree, it has little relevance to the 34/34A route. I don't even think a vehicle the size of a Versa or Solar would be worth it, 4 of the MPDs would do the job, in my opinion. Some of them go around with only a few passengers on board.

Davie
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15 Mar 2016, 7:41 pm
(15 Mar 2016, 7:38 pm)park5354 I think Lambton Worm brand should be scrapped, allowing two versa to go to Riverside, and two to Deptford.  This would allow a full South Tyne versa allocation, with a corporate spare at Riverside, and two corporate Spares at Deptford.

4989-92 could then go on 34/34A.
I agree with you.
Davie
15 Mar 2016, 7:41 pm #613

(15 Mar 2016, 7:38 pm)park5354 I think Lambton Worm brand should be scrapped, allowing two versa to go to Riverside, and two to Deptford.  This would allow a full South Tyne versa allocation, with a corporate spare at Riverside, and two corporate Spares at Deptford.

4989-92 could then go on 34/34A.
I agree with you.

430
15 Mar 2016, 8:01 pm
I notice vosa is showing a timetable change for x21 on 17th April barely a month after the service was relaunched. I wonder what these changes are?
big mac
15 Mar 2016, 8:01 pm #614

I notice vosa is showing a timetable change for x21 on 17th April barely a month after the service was relaunched. I wonder what these changes are?

15 Mar 2016, 8:29 pm
(15 Mar 2016, 7:38 pm)park5354 I think Lambton Worm brand should be scrapped, allowing two versa to go to Riverside, and two to Deptford.  This would allow a full South Tyne versa allocation, with a corporate spare at Riverside, and two corporate Spares at Deptford.

4989-92 could then go on 34/34A.

I agree, But sorry to be a pain and bring this up again, But how long do the 09 Euro 4 Versas have left in service work? In a ideal world id put them as red spares because some are appalling.
I also think Simplicity 2/2A could be a contender for New Vehicles in a few years time.
Versas don't seem to age well in my opinion.

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South Tyne Lad
15 Mar 2016, 8:29 pm #615

(15 Mar 2016, 7:38 pm)park5354 I think Lambton Worm brand should be scrapped, allowing two versa to go to Riverside, and two to Deptford.  This would allow a full South Tyne versa allocation, with a corporate spare at Riverside, and two corporate Spares at Deptford.

4989-92 could then go on 34/34A.

I agree, But sorry to be a pain and bring this up again, But how long do the 09 Euro 4 Versas have left in service work? In a ideal world id put them as red spares because some are appalling.
I also think Simplicity 2/2A could be a contender for New Vehicles in a few years time.
Versas don't seem to age well in my opinion.


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15 Mar 2016, 8:38 pm
(15 Mar 2016, 8:29 pm)South Tyne Lad I agree, But sorry to be a pain and bring this up again, But how long do the 09 Euro 4 Versas have left in service work? In a ideal world id put them as red spares because some are appalling.
I also think Simplicity 2/2A could be a contender for New Vehicles in a few years time.
Versas don't seem to age well in my opinion.

Isn't it about 15 years for a single decker? Even on the Solo expected useful lifespan of 12 years, an 09 reg vehicle is still not even mid life, yet.

I do find the contrast between solos and versas quite baffling. Arriva's 08 reg solos at Belmont are externally scruffy, but really quite zippy little things and a nice ride on some of the more demanding rural routes (eg the 56). Versas seem to suffer from being a solo stretched out and spread too thin. Mechanically, are they any different from the solos, or do they have the same engine, transmission etc to pull the heavier bodywork around?
BusLoverMum
15 Mar 2016, 8:38 pm #616

(15 Mar 2016, 8:29 pm)South Tyne Lad I agree, But sorry to be a pain and bring this up again, But how long do the 09 Euro 4 Versas have left in service work? In a ideal world id put them as red spares because some are appalling.
I also think Simplicity 2/2A could be a contender for New Vehicles in a few years time.
Versas don't seem to age well in my opinion.

Isn't it about 15 years for a single decker? Even on the Solo expected useful lifespan of 12 years, an 09 reg vehicle is still not even mid life, yet.

I do find the contrast between solos and versas quite baffling. Arriva's 08 reg solos at Belmont are externally scruffy, but really quite zippy little things and a nice ride on some of the more demanding rural routes (eg the 56). Versas seem to suffer from being a solo stretched out and spread too thin. Mechanically, are they any different from the solos, or do they have the same engine, transmission etc to pull the heavier bodywork around?

19179
15 Mar 2016, 8:39 pm
(15 Mar 2016, 8:29 pm)South Tyne Lad I agree, But sorry to be a pain and bring this up again, But how long do the 09 Euro 4 Versas have left in service work? In a ideal world id put them as red spares because some are appalling.
I also think Simplicity 2/2A could be a contender for New Vehicles in a few years time.
Versas don't seem to age well in my opinion.
 
I think the Versa's need to be 15 years old before they need replacing... Well when GNE think they should be replaced.

The Simplicity Versa's are terrible.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
15 Mar 2016, 8:39 pm #617

(15 Mar 2016, 8:29 pm)South Tyne Lad I agree, But sorry to be a pain and bring this up again, But how long do the 09 Euro 4 Versas have left in service work? In a ideal world id put them as red spares because some are appalling.
I also think Simplicity 2/2A could be a contender for New Vehicles in a few years time.
Versas don't seem to age well in my opinion.
 
I think the Versa's need to be 15 years old before they need replacing... Well when GNE think they should be replaced.

The Simplicity Versa's are terrible.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

DanPicken
Banned
2177
15 Mar 2016, 8:40 pm
(15 Mar 2016, 8:38 pm)BusLoverMum Isn't it about 15 years for a single decker? Even on the Solo expected useful lifespan of 12 years, an 09 reg vehicle is still not even mid life, yet.

I do find the contrast between solos and versas quite baffling. Arriva's 08 reg solos at Belmont are externally scruffy, but really quite zippy little things and a nice ride on some of the more demanding rural routes (eg the 56). Versas seem to suffer from being a solo stretched out and spread too thin. Mechanically, are they any different from the solos, or do they have the same engine, transmission etc to pull the heavier bodywork around?

8294-8309 are 7 years old.
DanPicken
15 Mar 2016, 8:40 pm #618

(15 Mar 2016, 8:38 pm)BusLoverMum Isn't it about 15 years for a single decker? Even on the Solo expected useful lifespan of 12 years, an 09 reg vehicle is still not even mid life, yet.

I do find the contrast between solos and versas quite baffling. Arriva's 08 reg solos at Belmont are externally scruffy, but really quite zippy little things and a nice ride on some of the more demanding rural routes (eg the 56). Versas seem to suffer from being a solo stretched out and spread too thin. Mechanically, are they any different from the solos, or do they have the same engine, transmission etc to pull the heavier bodywork around?

8294-8309 are 7 years old.

15 Mar 2016, 8:45 pm
(15 Mar 2016, 8:40 pm)DanPicken 8294-8309 are 7 years old.

Tired maths fail (distracted by the crunching in my earhole!).

They're only half way there, then!

Still a lot of life supposed to be left in them, at any rate.
BusLoverMum
15 Mar 2016, 8:45 pm #619

(15 Mar 2016, 8:40 pm)DanPicken 8294-8309 are 7 years old.

Tired maths fail (distracted by the crunching in my earhole!).

They're only half way there, then!

Still a lot of life supposed to be left in them, at any rate.

Davie
Banned
2783
15 Mar 2016, 8:46 pm
(15 Mar 2016, 8:29 pm)South Tyne Lad I agree, But sorry to be a pain and bring this up again, But how long do the 09 Euro 4 Versas have left in service work? In a ideal world id put them as red spares because some are appalling.
I also think Simplicity 2/2A could be a contender for New Vehicles in a few years time.
Versas don't seem to age well in my opinion.
The Simplicity Versa's are awful!

8306 is the worst IMO, I've been on it twice, it makes an awful screeching noise, and had no power whats so ever!

I was talking to a bus driver recently and he agreed Versa's are horrid. Even the 11 reg Quaylink ones (with a couple of exceptions) are poor.
Davie
15 Mar 2016, 8:46 pm #620

(15 Mar 2016, 8:29 pm)South Tyne Lad I agree, But sorry to be a pain and bring this up again, But how long do the 09 Euro 4 Versas have left in service work? In a ideal world id put them as red spares because some are appalling.
I also think Simplicity 2/2A could be a contender for New Vehicles in a few years time.
Versas don't seem to age well in my opinion.
The Simplicity Versa's are awful!

8306 is the worst IMO, I've been on it twice, it makes an awful screeching noise, and had no power whats so ever!

I was talking to a bus driver recently and he agreed Versa's are horrid. Even the 11 reg Quaylink ones (with a couple of exceptions) are poor.

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