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BusLoverMum



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05 Feb 2017, 12:18 am #61
I'm sure the flywheels came from a retrospective grant.
BusLoverMum
05 Feb 2017, 12:18 am #61

I'm sure the flywheels came from a retrospective grant.

L469 YVK



3,554
05 Feb 2017, 10:22 am #62
(04 Feb 2017, 11:41 pm)Jamie M I don't understand this B5LH nonsense will hills - the angels do hill sections along the X21 every evening and sundays with no problems at all!
Not directing this at you, but if there was such an issue with hybrids or non-B9 vehicles being on more "demanding" parts of routes, why would a depot allocate such vehicles?

This is an arguement that people always bring up about hybrids on the northerns, and I'm always short of finding the logic behind the argument.

Maybe I'm being ignorant of some important fact, but when a depot could be allocating streetlites or solars or whatever else is lurking (to a route with throughfares or whateve), it would pick the hybrid if there was fundamental problems with the terrain for the vehicle.

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Not saying that Hybrids / Lightweight can't cope with hills as they can. I'm more on about the fuel side of things. Surely it would make more sense in the case of a cascade to remove heavy duty deckers from a route with fewer demands where bigger fuel savings can be made.

If you look at the 310, bar the Coast Road and mainly between Station Road / Benfield Road, it's practically all estates. The 309 bar the Coast Road, Blyth Road and Links Road, it's again practically all urban areas with traffic hotspots around the Cobalt, at times Rake Lane as well as Whitley Bay Town Centre too.
L469 YVK
05 Feb 2017, 10:22 am #62

(04 Feb 2017, 11:41 pm)Jamie M I don't understand this B5LH nonsense will hills - the angels do hill sections along the X21 every evening and sundays with no problems at all!
Not directing this at you, but if there was such an issue with hybrids or non-B9 vehicles being on more "demanding" parts of routes, why would a depot allocate such vehicles?

This is an arguement that people always bring up about hybrids on the northerns, and I'm always short of finding the logic behind the argument.

Maybe I'm being ignorant of some important fact, but when a depot could be allocating streetlites or solars or whatever else is lurking (to a route with throughfares or whateve), it would pick the hybrid if there was fundamental problems with the terrain for the vehicle.

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Not saying that Hybrids / Lightweight can't cope with hills as they can. I'm more on about the fuel side of things. Surely it would make more sense in the case of a cascade to remove heavy duty deckers from a route with fewer demands where bigger fuel savings can be made.

If you look at the 310, bar the Coast Road and mainly between Station Road / Benfield Road, it's practically all estates. The 309 bar the Coast Road, Blyth Road and Links Road, it's again practically all urban areas with traffic hotspots around the Cobalt, at times Rake Lane as well as Whitley Bay Town Centre too.

Michael



19,175
05 Feb 2017, 12:21 pm #63
Has the last remaining B10's been withdrawn from Riverside with the entry of more "The 49" Streetlites?
Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
05 Feb 2017, 12:21 pm #63

Has the last remaining B10's been withdrawn from Riverside with the entry of more "The 49" Streetlites?

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

S813 FVK



6,030
05 Feb 2017, 12:24 pm #64
(05 Feb 2017, 12:21 pm)Michael Has the last remaining B10's been withdrawn from Riverside with the entry of more "The 49" Streetlites?

Unlikely, the citaros that will most likely contribute to their replacement (perhaps not direct) will be away for refurbishment.
S813 FVK
05 Feb 2017, 12:24 pm #64

(05 Feb 2017, 12:21 pm)Michael Has the last remaining B10's been withdrawn from Riverside with the entry of more "The 49" Streetlites?

Unlikely, the citaros that will most likely contribute to their replacement (perhaps not direct) will be away for refurbishment.

Michael



19,175
05 Feb 2017, 12:29 pm #65
(05 Feb 2017, 12:24 pm)S813 FVK Unlikely, the citaros that will most likely contribute to their replacement (perhaps not direct) will be away for refurbishment.

Ah right, i just thought that GNE wouldn't want to send all the Blaydon Racers down at once because they're still doing the Durham Diamond ones, thought some would remain in service until a later date until they had room at Bus and Coach World but i'm going to be honest and say i'm not sure how many staff or how big the factory is at Bus and Coach World or the timescale, we also don't know when the first Citaro's will arrive back.
Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
05 Feb 2017, 12:29 pm #65

(05 Feb 2017, 12:24 pm)S813 FVK Unlikely, the citaros that will most likely contribute to their replacement (perhaps not direct) will be away for refurbishment.

Ah right, i just thought that GNE wouldn't want to send all the Blaydon Racers down at once because they're still doing the Durham Diamond ones, thought some would remain in service until a later date until they had room at Bus and Coach World but i'm going to be honest and say i'm not sure how many staff or how big the factory is at Bus and Coach World or the timescale, we also don't know when the first Citaro's will arrive back.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Dan

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18,123
05 Feb 2017, 12:35 pm #66
(05 Feb 2017, 12:21 pm)Michael Has the last remaining B10's been withdrawn from Riverside with the entry of more "The 49" Streetlites?

No - just 4900, which is out of tax.

4898, 4899 and 4922 all remain in service at present.

[Image: 32599689311_60cec073ca.jpg]Go North East: 4900 / V990ETN by Daniel Graham, on Flickr
Dan
05 Feb 2017, 12:35 pm #66

(05 Feb 2017, 12:21 pm)Michael Has the last remaining B10's been withdrawn from Riverside with the entry of more "The 49" Streetlites?

No - just 4900, which is out of tax.

4898, 4899 and 4922 all remain in service at present.

[Image: 32599689311_60cec073ca.jpg]Go North East: 4900 / V990ETN by Daniel Graham, on Flickr

Michael



19,175
05 Feb 2017, 12:45 pm #67
(05 Feb 2017, 12:35 pm)Dan No - just 4900, which is out of tax.

4898, 4899 and 4922 all remain in service at present.

[Image: 32599689311_60cec073ca.jpg]Go North East: 4900 / V990ETN by Daniel Graham, on Flickr

Thanks Dan. =)


Go North East 
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Regrettably due to technical issues the 12:40 X10 from Middlesbrough will not be operating, we apologise for any inconvenience.
Edited 05 Feb 2017, 12:48 pm by Michael.
Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
05 Feb 2017, 12:45 pm #67

(05 Feb 2017, 12:35 pm)Dan No - just 4900, which is out of tax.

4898, 4899 and 4922 all remain in service at present.

[Image: 32599689311_60cec073ca.jpg]Go North East: 4900 / V990ETN by Daniel Graham, on Flickr

Thanks Dan. =)


Go North East 
23 mins
Regrettably due to technical issues the 12:40 X10 from Middlesbrough will not be operating, we apologise for any inconvenience.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

S813 FVK



6,030
05 Feb 2017, 4:47 pm #68
709 is the second Solo to arrive:

[Image: 32686257706_16f1e1ea82.jpg]Go North East 709 / WK58 EAJ. by Guy Park-Royal, on Flickr
S813 FVK
05 Feb 2017, 4:47 pm #68

709 is the second Solo to arrive:

[Image: 32686257706_16f1e1ea82.jpg]Go North East 709 / WK58 EAJ. by Guy Park-Royal, on Flickr

Jamie M

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05 Feb 2017, 4:50 pm #69
Bit close to that car, mind!
They look tiny, reminds me of Stanley Taxi's tiny SRs.

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Jamie M
05 Feb 2017, 4:50 pm #69

Bit close to that car, mind!
They look tiny, reminds me of Stanley Taxi's tiny SRs.

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Andreos1



14,240
05 Feb 2017, 5:24 pm #70
(05 Feb 2017, 4:50 pm)Jamie M Bit close to that car, mind!
They look tiny, reminds me of Stanley Taxi's tiny SRs.

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That was the first thing I thought! 


Can anyone confirm the capacity of these Solo's?
'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
05 Feb 2017, 5:24 pm #70

(05 Feb 2017, 4:50 pm)Jamie M Bit close to that car, mind!
They look tiny, reminds me of Stanley Taxi's tiny SRs.

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That was the first thing I thought! 


Can anyone confirm the capacity of these Solo's?

'Illegitimis non carborundum'

Dan

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18,123
05 Feb 2017, 5:27 pm #71
(05 Feb 2017, 5:24 pm)Andreos1 That was the first thing I thought! 


Can anyone confirm the capacity of these Solo's?

23 seats in total - though whoever sits on the front seats on the nearside will be very chilly whenever the bus opens its doors (or should I say door?)

[Image: 31874399943_29cf31f6a7.jpg]Go North East: 0708 / WK58EAG by Daniel Graham, on Flickr

[Image: 31874396863_7122b9710d.jpg]Go North East: 0708 / WK58EAG by Daniel Graham, on Flickr
Dan
05 Feb 2017, 5:27 pm #71

(05 Feb 2017, 5:24 pm)Andreos1 That was the first thing I thought! 


Can anyone confirm the capacity of these Solo's?

23 seats in total - though whoever sits on the front seats on the nearside will be very chilly whenever the bus opens its doors (or should I say door?)

[Image: 31874399943_29cf31f6a7.jpg]Go North East: 0708 / WK58EAG by Daniel Graham, on Flickr

[Image: 31874396863_7122b9710d.jpg]Go North East: 0708 / WK58EAG by Daniel Graham, on Flickr

Ambassador



1,862
05 Feb 2017, 6:19 pm #72
Wonder if there's any mileage in Quorum funding the branding on one of these for the 554 contract
Wistfully stuck in the 90s
Ambassador
05 Feb 2017, 6:19 pm #72

Wonder if there's any mileage in Quorum funding the branding on one of these for the 554 contract

Wistfully stuck in the 90s

Michael



19,175
05 Feb 2017, 6:36 pm #73
(05 Feb 2017, 6:19 pm)Ambassador Wonder if there's any mileage in Quorum funding the branding on one of these for the 554 contract

Whats allocated to the 554?, does the bus not come from another route?, if it does, then there would be no point in branding it.
Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
05 Feb 2017, 6:36 pm #73

(05 Feb 2017, 6:19 pm)Ambassador Wonder if there's any mileage in Quorum funding the branding on one of these for the 554 contract

Whats allocated to the 554?, does the bus not come from another route?, if it does, then there would be no point in branding it.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

S813 FVK



6,030
05 Feb 2017, 6:37 pm #74
(05 Feb 2017, 6:36 pm)Michael Whats allocated to the 554?, does the bus not come from another route?, if it does, then there would be no point in branding it.

I think it uses the same bus that runs onto the Byker ASDA contract so an MPD.
S813 FVK
05 Feb 2017, 6:37 pm #74

(05 Feb 2017, 6:36 pm)Michael Whats allocated to the 554?, does the bus not come from another route?, if it does, then there would be no point in branding it.

I think it uses the same bus that runs onto the Byker ASDA contract so an MPD.

Andreos1



14,240
05 Feb 2017, 7:06 pm #75
(05 Feb 2017, 6:19 pm)Ambassador Wonder if there's any mileage in Quorum funding the branding on one of these for the 554 contract

554? Give your head a shake man. These are for the 21 Wink
'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
05 Feb 2017, 7:06 pm #75

(05 Feb 2017, 6:19 pm)Ambassador Wonder if there's any mileage in Quorum funding the branding on one of these for the 554 contract

554? Give your head a shake man. These are for the 21 Wink

'Illegitimis non carborundum'

Jamie M

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05 Feb 2017, 7:22 pm #76
(05 Feb 2017, 7:06 pm)Andreos1 554? Give your head a shake man. These are for the 21 Wink
Next gen omnicity!

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Jamie M
05 Feb 2017, 7:22 pm #76

(05 Feb 2017, 7:06 pm)Andreos1 554? Give your head a shake man. These are for the 21 Wink
Next gen omnicity!

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1,862
05 Feb 2017, 10:02 pm #77
(05 Feb 2017, 7:06 pm)Andreos1 554? Give your head a shake man. These are for the 21 Wink

Not the 21A?!  Angel
Wistfully stuck in the 90s
Ambassador
05 Feb 2017, 10:02 pm #77

(05 Feb 2017, 7:06 pm)Andreos1 554? Give your head a shake man. These are for the 21 Wink

Not the 21A?!  Angel

Wistfully stuck in the 90s

gneasy91



65
05 Feb 2017, 10:06 pm #78
Some of the brands today look really dull and plain the inside of the bus hardly anything no inside branding the posters at front and thats it
gneasy91
05 Feb 2017, 10:06 pm #78

Some of the brands today look really dull and plain the inside of the bus hardly anything no inside branding the posters at front and thats it

Jamie M

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05 Feb 2017, 10:22 pm #79
(05 Feb 2017, 10:06 pm)gneasy91 Some of the brands today look really dull and plain the inside of the bus hardly anything no inside branding the posters at front and thats it
Not being funny or anything, but what else do you expect a bus to have inside for passengers, other than chairs and windows?

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Jamie M
05 Feb 2017, 10:22 pm #79

(05 Feb 2017, 10:06 pm)gneasy91 Some of the brands today look really dull and plain the inside of the bus hardly anything no inside branding the posters at front and thats it
Not being funny or anything, but what else do you expect a bus to have inside for passengers, other than chairs and windows?

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James101



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05 Feb 2017, 10:40 pm #80
(05 Feb 2017, 10:22 pm)Jamie M Not being funny or anything, but what else do you expect a bus to have inside for passengers, other than chairs and windows?

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When GNE went big with their branding back in 2006, the branding was arguably a bit more wholehearted. The brand was continued internally, including themed coving panels and safety notices - which have since been dropped.

The best execution of a bus brand I think I've seen is Trent's 'Spondon Flyer'. Much more than just a livery, internally the seats are individually numbered and have a BOAC 'Speedbird' style logo embroided , mimicking a plane cabin. The coving adverts interwork flight/holiday themes throughout and the timetables describe 'Flight times'. Even the destination display en route states 'Come fly with me to......Spondon'. 

Catching a 'flyer' becomes an immersive experience for the passenger, the brand sticks in the mind and builds loyalty. It is useful of course that the brand has an appropriate meaning - it's a express bus to Spondon after all. 

There was a point were GNE seemed to be branding for the sake of branding. There's little point if it doesn't mean anything - I'm thinking 'Kingfisher', 'See it Do it' 'Showstopper'. I'd rather a strong corporate identity for peripheral routes and some strong, well executed, brands for core routes such as 'Angel', 'TTX' & 'Prince Bishops'.
James101
05 Feb 2017, 10:40 pm #80

(05 Feb 2017, 10:22 pm)Jamie M Not being funny or anything, but what else do you expect a bus to have inside for passengers, other than chairs and windows?

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When GNE went big with their branding back in 2006, the branding was arguably a bit more wholehearted. The brand was continued internally, including themed coving panels and safety notices - which have since been dropped.

The best execution of a bus brand I think I've seen is Trent's 'Spondon Flyer'. Much more than just a livery, internally the seats are individually numbered and have a BOAC 'Speedbird' style logo embroided , mimicking a plane cabin. The coving adverts interwork flight/holiday themes throughout and the timetables describe 'Flight times'. Even the destination display en route states 'Come fly with me to......Spondon'. 

Catching a 'flyer' becomes an immersive experience for the passenger, the brand sticks in the mind and builds loyalty. It is useful of course that the brand has an appropriate meaning - it's a express bus to Spondon after all. 

There was a point were GNE seemed to be branding for the sake of branding. There's little point if it doesn't mean anything - I'm thinking 'Kingfisher', 'See it Do it' 'Showstopper'. I'd rather a strong corporate identity for peripheral routes and some strong, well executed, brands for core routes such as 'Angel', 'TTX' & 'Prince Bishops'.

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