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S813 FVK



6,030
12 May 2017, 6:10 am #141
(12 May 2017, 5:24 am)Dan Cross City Service has been removed entirely as it would be within the wiper sweep.

Will they just make it higher up like on the seeit doit mercs? They don't seem to have had any problems.
S813 FVK
12 May 2017, 6:10 am #141

(12 May 2017, 5:24 am)Dan Cross City Service has been removed entirely as it would be within the wiper sweep.

Will they just make it higher up like on the seeit doit mercs? They don't seem to have had any problems.

Dan

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18,123
12 May 2017, 6:15 am #142
(12 May 2017, 6:10 am)S813 FVK Will they just make it higher up like on the seeit doit mercs? They don't seem to have had any problems.

It was made higher up on 5277, and Riverside still didn't agree with the positioning, so had to be removed.

Pity, when it's been no bother at Deptford!

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Dan
12 May 2017, 6:15 am #142

(12 May 2017, 6:10 am)S813 FVK Will they just make it higher up like on the seeit doit mercs? They don't seem to have had any problems.

It was made higher up on 5277, and Riverside still didn't agree with the positioning, so had to be removed.

Pity, when it's been no bother at Deptford!

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S813 FVK



6,030
12 May 2017, 6:37 am #143
(12 May 2017, 6:15 am)Dan It was made higher up on 5277, and Riverside still didn't agree with the positioning, so had to be removed.

Pity, when it's been no bother at Deptford!

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That is disappointing. I thought it was a nice touch and i rather liked the font that it is in.
S813 FVK
12 May 2017, 6:37 am #143

(12 May 2017, 6:15 am)Dan It was made higher up on 5277, and Riverside still didn't agree with the positioning, so had to be removed.

Pity, when it's been no bother at Deptford!

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That is disappointing. I thought it was a nice touch and i rather liked the font that it is in.

12 May 2017, 9:11 am #144
Has the New demo 9097 Mercedes Benz Sprinter City 45 - been out in service yet?

Is it still to be used on the Tynedale Links services X81/681/185 - I presume these services do not require a bus as big as a Solo or MPD.


Also talking of MPDs - Are the MPDs which are based at Hexham to be withdrawn in the near future, in line with the other MPDs, just Hexham's are Newer being 55 reg vehicles and are also Euro 5?
I presume if they are to be withdrawn, these will be replaced by Solo's, or possibly a 16 seater Merc if trials go well.
thetravelman
12 May 2017, 9:11 am #144

Has the New demo 9097 Mercedes Benz Sprinter City 45 - been out in service yet?

Is it still to be used on the Tynedale Links services X81/681/185 - I presume these services do not require a bus as big as a Solo or MPD.


Also talking of MPDs - Are the MPDs which are based at Hexham to be withdrawn in the near future, in line with the other MPDs, just Hexham's are Newer being 55 reg vehicles and are also Euro 5?
I presume if they are to be withdrawn, these will be replaced by Solo's, or possibly a 16 seater Merc if trials go well.

Dan

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18,123
12 May 2017, 10:13 am #145
4990 now branded for Black Cats, and 6125 for Toon Link.

5283 now back from refurbishment in GNE's corporate livery, 5321 has left for refurbishment.

5292 now back at Saltmeadows Road fot repair. Will be MOT'd and then sent for refurbishment.

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Dan
12 May 2017, 10:13 am #145

4990 now branded for Black Cats, and 6125 for Toon Link.

5283 now back from refurbishment in GNE's corporate livery, 5321 has left for refurbishment.

5292 now back at Saltmeadows Road fot repair. Will be MOT'd and then sent for refurbishment.

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12 May 2017, 10:33 am #146
(12 May 2017, 10:13 am)Dan 4990 now branded for Black Cats, and 6125 for Toon Link.

5283 now back from refurbishment in GNE's corporate livery, 5321 has left for refurbishment.

5292 now back at Saltmeadows Road fot repair. Will be MOT'd and then sent for refurbishment.

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Do you know if it is back at Deptford yet?
Dans_bus_photos
12 May 2017, 10:33 am #146

(12 May 2017, 10:13 am)Dan 4990 now branded for Black Cats, and 6125 for Toon Link.

5283 now back from refurbishment in GNE's corporate livery, 5321 has left for refurbishment.

5292 now back at Saltmeadows Road fot repair. Will be MOT'd and then sent for refurbishment.

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Do you know if it is back at Deptford yet?

Dan

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18,123
12 May 2017, 10:35 am #147
(12 May 2017, 10:33 am)Dans_bus_photos Do you know if it is back at Deptford yet?

Should be later this afternoon.

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Dan
12 May 2017, 10:35 am #147

(12 May 2017, 10:33 am)Dans_bus_photos Do you know if it is back at Deptford yet?

Should be later this afternoon.

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Andreos1



14,240
12 May 2017, 11:16 am #148
(12 May 2017, 12:20 am)Jamie M Better than 713 and 697 or whatever it was!

I think the omnidekks will be the last to receive attention, as clear by the fact that only a handful have received working thermal mods, even then they're not lasting long. Also, only half received rear-end fixes before work was stopped. A couple have began sliding about again, even after the fix.

This is of no real fault to GNE, I feel like there is too much going on to be touching up buses to be perfect. Once all of the older vehicles have finally become displaced, I think there'll be a lot more free room to perfect buses at all costs. A bus that's in a state is better than no bus at all.

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Really? For a passenger who may have an alternative mode of transport, why would they sit in a dirty and unpleasant environment? There will be passengers who have a car, but chose a route that is advertised as being environmentaly friendly and with features such as WiFi. What is to stop them using the car? Then there are those who rely on transport and definately have alternative options - whether it be another GNE bus, an ANE bus or in some locations, the train. 

Reputation and passenger numbers are at stake here.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
12 May 2017, 11:16 am #148

(12 May 2017, 12:20 am)Jamie M Better than 713 and 697 or whatever it was!

I think the omnidekks will be the last to receive attention, as clear by the fact that only a handful have received working thermal mods, even then they're not lasting long. Also, only half received rear-end fixes before work was stopped. A couple have began sliding about again, even after the fix.

This is of no real fault to GNE, I feel like there is too much going on to be touching up buses to be perfect. Once all of the older vehicles have finally become displaced, I think there'll be a lot more free room to perfect buses at all costs. A bus that's in a state is better than no bus at all.

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Really? For a passenger who may have an alternative mode of transport, why would they sit in a dirty and unpleasant environment? There will be passengers who have a car, but chose a route that is advertised as being environmentaly friendly and with features such as WiFi. What is to stop them using the car? Then there are those who rely on transport and definately have alternative options - whether it be another GNE bus, an ANE bus or in some locations, the train. 

Reputation and passenger numbers are at stake here.


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

Jamie M

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12 May 2017, 11:43 am #149
(12 May 2017, 11:16 am)Andreos1 Really? For a passenger who may have an alternative mode of transport, why would they sit in a dirty and unpleasant environment? There will be passengers who have a car, but chose a route that is advertised as being environmentaly friendly and with features such as WiFi. What is to stop them using the car? Then there are those who rely on transport and definately have alternative options - whether it be another GNE bus, an ANE bus or in some locations, the train. 

Reputation and passenger numbers are at stake here.
If the company has nothing but a broken bus to send out, it will. They have to, or it causes sanctions in the long run, amongst the degrade of respect from the council.

There should be a suitable bus to send out, but needs must, right?

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Jamie M
12 May 2017, 11:43 am #149

(12 May 2017, 11:16 am)Andreos1 Really? For a passenger who may have an alternative mode of transport, why would they sit in a dirty and unpleasant environment? There will be passengers who have a car, but chose a route that is advertised as being environmentaly friendly and with features such as WiFi. What is to stop them using the car? Then there are those who rely on transport and definately have alternative options - whether it be another GNE bus, an ANE bus or in some locations, the train. 

Reputation and passenger numbers are at stake here.
If the company has nothing but a broken bus to send out, it will. They have to, or it causes sanctions in the long run, amongst the degrade of respect from the council.

There should be a suitable bus to send out, but needs must, right?

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Andreos1



14,240
12 May 2017, 12:26 pm #150
(12 May 2017, 11:43 am)Jamie M If the company has nothing but a broken bus to send out, it will. They have to, or it causes sanctions in the long run, amongst the degrade of respect from the council.

There should be a suitable bus to send out, but needs must, right?

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Are passengers really bothered about TC fines, VOR etc.?
Or do they want a bus turning up with all of the advertised features?

If we look at it from a passenger perspective (which is often forgotten about), they're making financial sacrifices and decisions based on a service offer and promise. Not often getting the things they have paid for.
Edited 12 May 2017, 12:27 pm by Andreos1.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
12 May 2017, 12:26 pm #150

(12 May 2017, 11:43 am)Jamie M If the company has nothing but a broken bus to send out, it will. They have to, or it causes sanctions in the long run, amongst the degrade of respect from the council.

There should be a suitable bus to send out, but needs must, right?

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Are passengers really bothered about TC fines, VOR etc.?
Or do they want a bus turning up with all of the advertised features?

If we look at it from a passenger perspective (which is often forgotten about), they're making financial sacrifices and decisions based on a service offer and promise. Not often getting the things they have paid for.


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

S813 FVK



6,030
12 May 2017, 2:16 pm #151
6125 looking very nice in Toon Link (too much hassle to quote Dan's post)
S813 FVK
12 May 2017, 2:16 pm #151

6125 looking very nice in Toon Link (too much hassle to quote Dan's post)

S813 FVK



6,030
12 May 2017, 3:19 pm #152
(12 May 2017, 10:13 am)Dan 4990 now branded for Black Cats

[Image: 34226810970_2e4b2845f8.jpg]Go North East 4990 / YN51 MKX. by Guy Park-Royal, on Flickr
S813 FVK
12 May 2017, 3:19 pm #152

(12 May 2017, 10:13 am)Dan 4990 now branded for Black Cats

[Image: 34226810970_2e4b2845f8.jpg]Go North East 4990 / YN51 MKX. by Guy Park-Royal, on Flickr

makem1



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12 May 2017, 3:31 pm #153
(12 May 2017, 3:19 pm)S813 FVK [Image: 34226810970_2e4b2845f8.jpg]Go North East 4990 / YN51 MKX. by Guy Park-Royal, on Flickr

IS this one of the buses advertised for sale at £9500 that will be available june/july
makem1
12 May 2017, 3:31 pm #153

(12 May 2017, 3:19 pm)S813 FVK [Image: 34226810970_2e4b2845f8.jpg]Go North East 4990 / YN51 MKX. by Guy Park-Royal, on Flickr

IS this one of the buses advertised for sale at £9500 that will be available june/july

Michael



19,175
12 May 2017, 3:37 pm #154
(12 May 2017, 3:19 pm)S813 FVK [Image: 34226810970_2e4b2845f8.jpg]Go North East 4990 / YN51 MKX. by Guy Park-Royal, on Flickr

Suits the Scania.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
12 May 2017, 3:37 pm #154

(12 May 2017, 3:19 pm)S813 FVK [Image: 34226810970_2e4b2845f8.jpg]Go North East 4990 / YN51 MKX. by Guy Park-Royal, on Flickr

Suits the Scania.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

BusLoverMum



5,285
12 May 2017, 5:29 pm #155
(12 May 2017, 12:26 pm)Andreos1 Are passengers really bothered about TC fines, VOR etc.?
Or do they want a bus turning up with all of the advertised features?

If we look at it from a passenger perspective (which is often forgotten about), they're making financial sacrifices and decisions based on a service offer and promise. Not often getting the things they have paid for.

I pay to get from a to b. Safely.

Everything else is just a nice bonus.
BusLoverMum
12 May 2017, 5:29 pm #155

(12 May 2017, 12:26 pm)Andreos1 Are passengers really bothered about TC fines, VOR etc.?
Or do they want a bus turning up with all of the advertised features?

If we look at it from a passenger perspective (which is often forgotten about), they're making financial sacrifices and decisions based on a service offer and promise. Not often getting the things they have paid for.

I pay to get from a to b. Safely.

Everything else is just a nice bonus.

Andreos1



14,240
12 May 2017, 6:11 pm #156
(12 May 2017, 3:31 pm)makem1 IS this one of the buses advertised for sale at £9500 that will be available june/july

I would put a bet on that those vehicles aren't going to be around long, purely based on age.

(12 May 2017, 5:29 pm)BusLoverMum I pay to get from a to b. Safely.

Everything else is just a nice bonus.

I imagine others are like that too. Others, such as commuters will be sold on the nice bonuses. 
It would be folly to advertise and offer those nice bonuses, if the aim wasn't to attract punters from the X12, the train or their cars.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
12 May 2017, 6:11 pm #156

(12 May 2017, 3:31 pm)makem1 IS this one of the buses advertised for sale at £9500 that will be available june/july

I would put a bet on that those vehicles aren't going to be around long, purely based on age.

(12 May 2017, 5:29 pm)BusLoverMum I pay to get from a to b. Safely.

Everything else is just a nice bonus.

I imagine others are like that too. Others, such as commuters will be sold on the nice bonuses. 
It would be folly to advertise and offer those nice bonuses, if the aim wasn't to attract punters from the X12, the train or their cars.


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

Michael



19,175
12 May 2017, 6:21 pm #157
(12 May 2017, 6:11 pm)Andreos1 I would put a bet on that those vehicles aren't going to be around long, purely based on age.

But they're all Euro 5, so that might delay the withdrawal (like 4932/33)

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
12 May 2017, 6:21 pm #157

(12 May 2017, 6:11 pm)Andreos1 I would put a bet on that those vehicles aren't going to be around long, purely based on age.

But they're all Euro 5, so that might delay the withdrawal (like 4932/33)


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Boggle



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12 May 2017, 7:33 pm #158
(11 May 2017, 11:22 pm)Ambassador Apologies if this has been asked and answered before, are the Omnishambles due for a refurb, or even a clean at any point.

6140 my bouncing ride home tonight was worse than 6134/5 et al. Cigarette burns into the plastic coving of the seats, most of the upper deck had red seats worn away to just...black seats, food stains across seating. It wasn't pretty. Weird musty smell throughout too. If these things are seeing regular service on major flagship routes, surely you need to clean them at least?

At least on their 21 runs the B7s, Tridents and Vykings were clean. I'd be embarrassed to take a tourist or visitor to the Angel or DURHAM on a Omnishambles
As another regular 21/X21 user, I agree with you that these 3 desparately need some attention as the threadbare, hard, ripped seats and numerous squeaks and rattles don't portray the image GNE will be looking for.  I also agree that 6140 is the worst of the 3.  Hopefully some internal attention will be forthcoming as having travelled on 6142 and 6146 on X21 runs, the refurbishment has made a big difference to these ones, which are actually pleasant enough to travel on.
Boggle
12 May 2017, 7:33 pm #158

(11 May 2017, 11:22 pm)Ambassador Apologies if this has been asked and answered before, are the Omnishambles due for a refurb, or even a clean at any point.

6140 my bouncing ride home tonight was worse than 6134/5 et al. Cigarette burns into the plastic coving of the seats, most of the upper deck had red seats worn away to just...black seats, food stains across seating. It wasn't pretty. Weird musty smell throughout too. If these things are seeing regular service on major flagship routes, surely you need to clean them at least?

At least on their 21 runs the B7s, Tridents and Vykings were clean. I'd be embarrassed to take a tourist or visitor to the Angel or DURHAM on a Omnishambles
As another regular 21/X21 user, I agree with you that these 3 desparately need some attention as the threadbare, hard, ripped seats and numerous squeaks and rattles don't portray the image GNE will be looking for.  I also agree that 6140 is the worst of the 3.  Hopefully some internal attention will be forthcoming as having travelled on 6142 and 6146 on X21 runs, the refurbishment has made a big difference to these ones, which are actually pleasant enough to travel on.

GX03



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12 May 2017, 8:29 pm #159
(12 May 2017, 6:21 pm)Michael But they're all Euro 5, so that might delay the withdrawal (like 4932/33)

If 4932/4933 which are in the new livery, why has 4936 been withdrawn?
GX03
12 May 2017, 8:29 pm #159

(12 May 2017, 6:21 pm)Michael But they're all Euro 5, so that might delay the withdrawal (like 4932/33)

If 4932/4933 which are in the new livery, why has 4936 been withdrawn?

S813 FVK



6,030
12 May 2017, 8:33 pm #160
(12 May 2017, 8:29 pm)GX03 If 4932/4933 which are in the new livery, why has 4936 been withdrawn?

4936 was withdrawn for cost avoidance reasons as it was due for replacement by the 18 new Streetlites due in the next couple of months anyway:
http://northeastbuses.co.uk/fleet/item.php?operatorF=2&fleetnoF=4936

4932 and 4933 were repainted into the new corporate livery because they are Euro 5 so will be kept in the fleet longer than the Euro 4 vehicles.
S813 FVK
12 May 2017, 8:33 pm #160

(12 May 2017, 8:29 pm)GX03 If 4932/4933 which are in the new livery, why has 4936 been withdrawn?

4936 was withdrawn for cost avoidance reasons as it was due for replacement by the 18 new Streetlites due in the next couple of months anyway:
http://northeastbuses.co.uk/fleet/item.php?operatorF=2&fleetnoF=4936

4932 and 4933 were repainted into the new corporate livery because they are Euro 5 so will be kept in the fleet longer than the Euro 4 vehicles.

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