Go North East: 2016/17 Financial Year Order Predictions
Go North East: 2016/17 Financial Year Order Predictions
Is it likely that Go North East would ever look into purchasing the low height version of the Streetdeck for routes such as the X30 (and the rest of the 'Toon Link' network)? At 13ft 10in, they would be able to fit under the low bridge on Ellison Road at Dunston which has a height of 14ft 3in which only the 61xx Omnidekkas are able to go under (at Stanley).
(18 Apr 2017, 12:49 am)Washingtonian Its a shame to hear these Scanias are in this state. I remember when they were brand new on the 194 and they were brilliant buses. Very fast, comfortable and reliable back in the day. Mind I think its understandable with the demands of some of GNEs routes and the state of our roads why some buses are in a tired state. Some of the 54 plate Scania's were ran ragged when they were previously used on the Fab 56.
(18 Apr 2017, 12:49 am)Washingtonian Its a shame to hear these Scanias are in this state. I remember when they were brand new on the 194 and they were brilliant buses. Very fast, comfortable and reliable back in the day. Mind I think its understandable with the demands of some of GNEs routes and the state of our roads why some buses are in a tired state. Some of the 54 plate Scania's were ran ragged when they were previously used on the Fab 56.
(25 Apr 2017, 2:53 pm)S813 FVK Is it likely that Go North East would ever look into purchasing the low height version of the Streetdeck for routes such as the X30 (and the rest of the 'Toon Link' network)? At 13ft 10in, they would be able to fit under the low bridge on Ellison Road at Dunston which has a height of 14ft 3in which only the 61xx Omnidekkas are able to go under (at Stanley).
(25 Apr 2017, 2:53 pm)S813 FVK Is it likely that Go North East would ever look into purchasing the low height version of the Streetdeck for routes such as the X30 (and the rest of the 'Toon Link' network)? At 13ft 10in, they would be able to fit under the low bridge on Ellison Road at Dunston which has a height of 14ft 3in which only the 61xx Omnidekkas are able to go under (at Stanley).
So i was bored so i did a new predication's list for where the 18 Streetlites could go and the cascades which could happen:
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18 Streetlites:
8 – 35
9 – 2/2A
1 spare
(Will have 3 spares with 5438 and 5439 for services 2/2A, 20/20A and 35)
Cascades:
Citaro’s
6 Citaro’s to the 9 (5298-5304)
5 Citaro’s to the 61 (5305-5309)
Both Branded See it do it
5284, 5325, 5326, 5327 spares for the X5, 9 and 61 (5325-27 - "Go North East"
5333, 5334, 5335, 5336 spares for Riverside (as they already have 5 of the 10 reg Citaro's)
Versa’s
8319 – 8324 to the 36 (confirmed)
8325/26 to Chester as spares
8327/28 to Riverside as a spares
8306-8309 to Riverside for a route with 4 PVR
Means Deptford has no Versa's and depot standardisation takes place.
Withdrawals
4898, 4899 and 4922
Various older Scania’s in the fleet due to cascades
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Might be a few mistakes (over/under counting)
(14 May 2017, 2:39 pm)Michael So i was bored so i did a new predication's list for where the 18 Streetlites could go and the cascades which could happen:Aren't the b10s going when all of the current mercs return? I'm pretty sure theyre all float rn.
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18 Streetlites:
8 – 35
8 – 2/2A
2 spares
Cascades:
Citaro’s
6 Citaro’s to the 9 (5298-5304)
5 Citaro’s to the 61 (5305-5309)
Both Branded See it do it
5284, 5325, 5326, 5327 spares for the X5, 9 and 61 (5325-27 - "Go North East"
5333, 5334, 5335, 5336 spares for Riverside (as they already have 5 of the 10 reg Citaro's)
Versa’s
8319 – 8324 to the 36 (confirmed)
8325/26 to Chester as spares
8327/28 to Riverside as a spares
8306-8309 to Riverside for a route with 4 PVR
Withdrawals
4898, 4899 and 4922
Various older Scania’s in the fleet due to cascades
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Might be a few mistakes (over/under counting)
(14 May 2017, 2:39 pm)Michael So i was bored so i did a new predication's list for where the 18 Streetlites could go and the cascades which could happen:Aren't the b10s going when all of the current mercs return? I'm pretty sure theyre all float rn.
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18 Streetlites:
8 – 35
8 – 2/2A
2 spares
Cascades:
Citaro’s
6 Citaro’s to the 9 (5298-5304)
5 Citaro’s to the 61 (5305-5309)
Both Branded See it do it
5284, 5325, 5326, 5327 spares for the X5, 9 and 61 (5325-27 - "Go North East"
5333, 5334, 5335, 5336 spares for Riverside (as they already have 5 of the 10 reg Citaro's)
Versa’s
8319 – 8324 to the 36 (confirmed)
8325/26 to Chester as spares
8327/28 to Riverside as a spares
8306-8309 to Riverside for a route with 4 PVR
Withdrawals
4898, 4899 and 4922
Various older Scania’s in the fleet due to cascades
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Might be a few mistakes (over/under counting)
(14 May 2017, 2:59 pm)Jamie M Aren't the b10s going when all of the current mercs return? I'm pretty sure theyre all float rn.
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(14 May 2017, 2:59 pm)Jamie M Aren't the b10s going when all of the current mercs return? I'm pretty sure theyre all float rn.
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(14 May 2017, 2:59 pm)Jamie M Aren't the b10s going when all of the current mercs return? I'm pretty sure theyre all float rn.
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(14 May 2017, 4:09 pm)Dan At the moment there are no float vehicles at Riverside. Currently two at Stanley (ex-Plymouth Solo in the fleet pending service changes on 21st May) and one at Deptford (MPD 564, also retained pending PVR increase for new Nexus contract 593).
On paper, the entry into service of the new Streetlites on services 49/49A allowed 5275 - 5283 and 5293/94 to be released for refurbishment. A handful of buses were withdrawn at this time, though their replacements came in the form of 4926 and 4927 from Chester-le-Street at a later date.
The return and entry into service of 5275/76/78/79/82 will release 5234-38 to Stanley, 5283 in fleet livery will allow a Volvo B10BLE to be withdrawn at Riverside (should be 4899 though this is subject to change), while 5277/80/81/93/94 will allow for a fleet of five float vehicles at Riverside (4898, 4922 and 4926/27/29). Once the final Crusader is refurbished, these five buses will be withdrawn.
(14 May 2017, 4:09 pm)Dan At the moment there are no float vehicles at Riverside. Currently two at Stanley (ex-Plymouth Solo in the fleet pending service changes on 21st May) and one at Deptford (MPD 564, also retained pending PVR increase for new Nexus contract 593).
On paper, the entry into service of the new Streetlites on services 49/49A allowed 5275 - 5283 and 5293/94 to be released for refurbishment. A handful of buses were withdrawn at this time, though their replacements came in the form of 4926 and 4927 from Chester-le-Street at a later date.
The return and entry into service of 5275/76/78/79/82 will release 5234-38 to Stanley, 5283 in fleet livery will allow a Volvo B10BLE to be withdrawn at Riverside (should be 4899 though this is subject to change), while 5277/80/81/93/94 will allow for a fleet of five float vehicles at Riverside (4898, 4922 and 4926/27/29). Once the final Crusader is refurbished, these five buses will be withdrawn.
(14 May 2017, 2:39 pm)Michael So i was bored so i did a new predication's list for where the 18 Streetlites could go and the cascades which could happen:
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18 Streetlites:
8 – 35
8 – 2/2A
2 spares
Cascades:
Citaro’s
6 Citaro’s to the 9 (5298-5304)
5 Citaro’s to the 61 (5305-5309)
Both Branded See it do it
5284, 5325, 5326, 5327 spares for the X5, 9 and 61 (5325-27 - "Go North East"
5333, 5334, 5335, 5336 spares for Riverside (as they already have 5 of the 10 reg Citaro's)
Versa’s
8319 – 8324 to the 36 (confirmed)
8325/26 to Chester as spares
8327/28 to Riverside as a spares
8306-8309 to Riverside for a route with 4 PVR
Withdrawals
4898, 4899 and 4922
Various older Scania’s in the fleet due to cascades
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Might be a few mistakes (over/under counting)
(14 May 2017, 2:39 pm)Michael So i was bored so i did a new predication's list for where the 18 Streetlites could go and the cascades which could happen:
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18 Streetlites:
8 – 35
8 – 2/2A
2 spares
Cascades:
Citaro’s
6 Citaro’s to the 9 (5298-5304)
5 Citaro’s to the 61 (5305-5309)
Both Branded See it do it
5284, 5325, 5326, 5327 spares for the X5, 9 and 61 (5325-27 - "Go North East"
5333, 5334, 5335, 5336 spares for Riverside (as they already have 5 of the 10 reg Citaro's)
Versa’s
8319 – 8324 to the 36 (confirmed)
8325/26 to Chester as spares
8327/28 to Riverside as a spares
8306-8309 to Riverside for a route with 4 PVR
Withdrawals
4898, 4899 and 4922
Various older Scania’s in the fleet due to cascades
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Might be a few mistakes (over/under counting)
(14 May 2017, 5:02 pm)Malarkey I think some of the See It, Do It, Sunderland Mercs will end up on 5/50 to therefore replace the Omnicities and further standardise the fleet at Washington, with the Omnicities then going to Chester le Street for the 13/14/X22 & 28/28A, then the Solars allocated to the these services would either be withrawn directly or replace older Solars in the fleet which would then be withdrawn.
(14 May 2017, 5:02 pm)Malarkey I think some of the See It, Do It, Sunderland Mercs will end up on 5/50 to therefore replace the Omnicities and further standardise the fleet at Washington, with the Omnicities then going to Chester le Street for the 13/14/X22 & 28/28A, then the Solars allocated to the these services would either be withrawn directly or replace older Solars in the fleet which would then be withdrawn.
(14 May 2017, 5:18 pm)Michael Haven't some of them just been repainted in the livery?, seems daft to remove after a year although, i do agree with you, would seem the best way to do it.The northern brand on omnidekkas lasted just over a year. Half a year before that they were all sprayed into red. Now they're being painted black or having blue applied.
(14 May 2017, 5:18 pm)Michael Haven't some of them just been repainted in the livery?, seems daft to remove after a year although, i do agree with you, would seem the best way to do it.The northern brand on omnidekkas lasted just over a year. Half a year before that they were all sprayed into red. Now they're being painted black or having blue applied.
(14 May 2017, 5:18 pm)Michael Haven't some of them just been repainted in the livery?, seems daft to remove after a year although, i do agree with you, would seem the best way to do it.
(14 May 2017, 5:18 pm)Michael Haven't some of them just been repainted in the livery?, seems daft to remove after a year although, i do agree with you, would seem the best way to do it.
(14 May 2017, 5:36 pm)Malarkey 5243 to 5247 were repainted in March/April 2016, while 5255 to 5260 were all repainted in November/December 2013 ahead of the arrival of the B9's for the 309/310, so with Go North East repainting vehicles every 4 years then the latter will be due for a freshening up.
(14 May 2017, 5:36 pm)Malarkey 5243 to 5247 were repainted in March/April 2016, while 5255 to 5260 were all repainted in November/December 2013 ahead of the arrival of the B9's for the 309/310, so with Go North East repainting vehicles every 4 years then the latter will be due for a freshening up.
(14 May 2017, 5:41 pm)Michael They might, does the 5 and 50 get busy enough to gain something like a Citaro though?
Don't see them so wouldn't know.
(14 May 2017, 5:41 pm)Michael They might, does the 5 and 50 get busy enough to gain something like a Citaro though?
Don't see them so wouldn't know.
(14 May 2017, 6:08 pm)Malarkey 50 is standing room only when I got on it at Lambton on a morning to go work at 09:30am, other journeys throughout the day a quite busy, especially if the weather is like it is today, as for the 5 I have no idea as i've never been on the service.
(14 May 2017, 6:08 pm)Malarkey 50 is standing room only when I got on it at Lambton on a morning to go work at 09:30am, other journeys throughout the day a quite busy, especially if the weather is like it is today, as for the 5 I have no idea as i've never been on the service.
(14 May 2017, 6:15 pm)Ds1197 Citaros have better air conditioning
(14 May 2017, 6:32 pm)missedbus 50 certainly does get busy, at any time of day and on any given section of route too. Summer Sundays sometimes see Washington put deckers out on it. The 5 is rather less busy, and most of the day a Solo would cope on there. Probably gets busy passing Boldon School when the kids come out though.
(14 May 2017, 6:15 pm)Ds1197 Citaros have better air conditioning
(14 May 2017, 6:32 pm)missedbus 50 certainly does get busy, at any time of day and on any given section of route too. Summer Sundays sometimes see Washington put deckers out on it. The 5 is rather less busy, and most of the day a Solo would cope on there. Probably gets busy passing Boldon School when the kids come out though.
Are the Ten deckers the same age as the Hybrids?
Not been on one in a while. Assuming they are fairly ragged inside now unless they look after buses better on the Riverside
(14 May 2017, 7:45 pm)Ambassador Are the Ten deckers the same age as the Hybrids?Theyre decent spec still. Most plugs still work and I feel comfortable. 62 reg, same as hybrids.
Not been on one in a while. Assuming they are fairly ragged inside now unless they look after buses better on the Riverside
(14 May 2017, 7:45 pm)Ambassador Are the Ten deckers the same age as the Hybrids?Theyre decent spec still. Most plugs still work and I feel comfortable. 62 reg, same as hybrids.
Not been on one in a while. Assuming they are fairly ragged inside now unless they look after buses better on the Riverside