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10979
10 Jun 2017, 11:08 pm
#61
(10 Jun 2017, 10:59 pm)ENEB I know I was on 7540 when I saw it leaving town on the 8. How was your ride on that?.There was a new driver at the Wheel of that solo as well.

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That journey was nothing to write home about, other than the fact I almost missed it due to the issues on the Stagecoach X55.
Jimmi
10 Jun 2017, 11:08 pm #61

(10 Jun 2017, 10:59 pm)ENEB I know I was on 7540 when I saw it leaving town on the 8. How was your ride on that?.There was a new driver at the Wheel of that solo as well.

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That journey was nothing to write home about, other than the fact I almost missed it due to the issues on the Stagecoach X55.

703
10 Jun 2017, 11:11 pm
#62
(10 Jun 2017, 11:08 pm)Jimmi That journey was nothing to write home about, other than the fact I almost missed it due to the issues on the Stagecoach X55.
Oh I heard about that. Yer all the Frequenta spares are beyond tired. All the M880s are flying machines mostly due to them sitting around at Durham when they were on the park+ Ride. It's about time we got some Solo Srs.

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ENEB
10 Jun 2017, 11:11 pm #62

(10 Jun 2017, 11:08 pm)Jimmi That journey was nothing to write home about, other than the fact I almost missed it due to the issues on the Stagecoach X55.
Oh I heard about that. Yer all the Frequenta spares are beyond tired. All the M880s are flying machines mostly due to them sitting around at Durham when they were on the park+ Ride. It's about time we got some Solo Srs.

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10979
10 Jun 2017, 11:15 pm
#63
(10 Jun 2017, 11:11 pm)ENEB Oh I heard about that. Yer all the Frequenta spares are beyond tired. All the M880s are flying machines mostly due to them sitting around at Durham when they were on the park+ Ride. It's about time we got some Solo Srs.

Doubt we'll see any Solo SRs anytime soon, especially as I think Arriva are going for E200 MMCs at the moment.
Jimmi
10 Jun 2017, 11:15 pm #63

(10 Jun 2017, 11:11 pm)ENEB Oh I heard about that. Yer all the Frequenta spares are beyond tired. All the M880s are flying machines mostly due to them sitting around at Durham when they were on the park+ Ride. It's about time we got some Solo Srs.

Doubt we'll see any Solo SRs anytime soon, especially as I think Arriva are going for E200 MMCs at the moment.

703
10 Jun 2017, 11:30 pm
#64
(10 Jun 2017, 11:15 pm)Jimmi Doubt we'll see any Solo SRs anytime soon, especially as I think Arriva are going for E200 MMCs at the moment.
Oh them plastic things. I prefer the solos anyday. They've been a reliable bus for Arriva. Doubt they will the same reliability from E200 MMCS.

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(10 Jun 2017, 11:30 pm)ENEB Oh them plastic things. I prefer the solos anyday. They've been a reliable bus for Arriva. Doubt they will the same reliability from E200 MMCS.

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ENEB
10 Jun 2017, 11:30 pm #64

(10 Jun 2017, 11:15 pm)Jimmi Doubt we'll see any Solo SRs anytime soon, especially as I think Arriva are going for E200 MMCs at the moment.
Oh them plastic things. I prefer the solos anyday. They've been a reliable bus for Arriva. Doubt they will the same reliability from E200 MMCS.

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(10 Jun 2017, 11:30 pm)ENEB Oh them plastic things. I prefer the solos anyday. They've been a reliable bus for Arriva. Doubt they will the same reliability from E200 MMCS.

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4177
11 Jun 2017, 12:34 am
#65
(10 Jun 2017, 11:30 pm)ENEB Oh them plastic things. I prefer the solos anyday. They've been a reliable bus for Arriva. Doubt they will the same reliability from E200 MMCS.

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If anything, the E200 MMC should be far more reliable than a Solo given that it has had reliability built into the design process. Much of the design of the E200 MMC is the same as that of the E400 MMC which, when being designed, looked at every reported fault with the original Enviro 400.
mb134
11 Jun 2017, 12:34 am #65

(10 Jun 2017, 11:30 pm)ENEB Oh them plastic things. I prefer the solos anyday. They've been a reliable bus for Arriva. Doubt they will the same reliability from E200 MMCS.

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If anything, the E200 MMC should be far more reliable than a Solo given that it has had reliability built into the design process. Much of the design of the E200 MMC is the same as that of the E400 MMC which, when being designed, looked at every reported fault with the original Enviro 400.

10979
11 Jun 2017, 8:16 am
#66
1427 on Sapphire 7, 09:15 from Darlington.
Jimmi
11 Jun 2017, 8:16 am #66

1427 on Sapphire 7, 09:15 from Darlington.

703
11 Jun 2017, 9:41 am
#67
(11 Jun 2017, 8:16 am)Jimmi 1427 on Sapphire 7, 09:15 from Darlington.
Why on Earth would they do that.


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(11 Jun 2017, 12:34 am)mb134 If anything, the E200 MMC should be far more reliable than a Solo given that it has had reliability built into the design process. Much of the design of the E200 MMC is the same as that of the E400 MMC which, when being designed, looked at every reported fault with the original Enviro 400.
That's the thing a lot of Enthusiasts just slate the solos over the Enviros. Even from a drivers point of view the solos are great.

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ENEB
11 Jun 2017, 9:41 am #67

(11 Jun 2017, 8:16 am)Jimmi 1427 on Sapphire 7, 09:15 from Darlington.
Why on Earth would they do that.


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(11 Jun 2017, 12:34 am)mb134 If anything, the E200 MMC should be far more reliable than a Solo given that it has had reliability built into the design process. Much of the design of the E200 MMC is the same as that of the E400 MMC which, when being designed, looked at every reported fault with the original Enviro 400.
That's the thing a lot of Enthusiasts just slate the solos over the Enviros. Even from a drivers point of view the solos are great.

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4177
11 Jun 2017, 11:55 am
#68
(11 Jun 2017, 9:41 am)ENEB
That's the thing a lot of Enthusiasts just slate the solos over the Enviros. Even from a drivers point of view the solos are great.

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However majority of drivers will never have driven an E200 MMC. Having been a passenger on both, personally I find the E200 MMC miles ahead in terms of quality. 

What you have to bear in mind is that the E200 MMC covers all lengths from midi-bus to full length single deck. By ordering them, you can pretty much standardise your entire single deck fleet regardless of size.
mb134
11 Jun 2017, 11:55 am #68

(11 Jun 2017, 9:41 am)ENEB
That's the thing a lot of Enthusiasts just slate the solos over the Enviros. Even from a drivers point of view the solos are great.

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However majority of drivers will never have driven an E200 MMC. Having been a passenger on both, personally I find the E200 MMC miles ahead in terms of quality. 

What you have to bear in mind is that the E200 MMC covers all lengths from midi-bus to full length single deck. By ordering them, you can pretty much standardise your entire single deck fleet regardless of size.

11 Jun 2017, 12:11 pm
#69
1532 on the 24
BusLoverMum
11 Jun 2017, 12:11 pm #69

1532 on the 24

11 Jun 2017, 2:53 pm
#70
X15 E400 on X18, various ALX300s and Pulsars on GNR, B5LH on X9, MAX Pulsar on 46.
omnicity4659
11 Jun 2017, 2:53 pm #70

X15 E400 on X18, various ALX300s and Pulsars on GNR, B5LH on X9, MAX Pulsar on 46.

6857
11 Jun 2017, 2:58 pm
#71
(11 Jun 2017, 2:53 pm)omnicity4659 X15 E400 on X18, various ALX300s and Pulsars on GNR, B5LH on X9, MAX Pulsar on 46.

Sundays at Jesmond:

43/46/52/53 all interwork as followed:
Round trip on the 46
52 to Cramlington
Round trip on the 43 to Newcastle and return
Round trip on the 53
Round trip on the 43 to Newcastle and return
52 to Newcastle
So, Pulsars on 43/46 aren't odd on Sundays - B10BLEs less so
Kuyoyo
11 Jun 2017, 2:58 pm #71

(11 Jun 2017, 2:53 pm)omnicity4659 X15 E400 on X18, various ALX300s and Pulsars on GNR, B5LH on X9, MAX Pulsar on 46.

Sundays at Jesmond:

43/46/52/53 all interwork as followed:
Round trip on the 46
52 to Cramlington
Round trip on the 43 to Newcastle and return
Round trip on the 53
Round trip on the 43 to Newcastle and return
52 to Newcastle
So, Pulsars on 43/46 aren't odd on Sundays - B10BLEs less so

11 Jun 2017, 3:00 pm
#72
(11 Jun 2017, 2:58 pm)Kuyoyo Sundays at Jesmond:

43/46/52/53 all interwork as followed:
Round trip on the 46
52 to Cramlington
Round trip on the 43 to Newcastle and return
Round trip on the 53
Round trip on the 43 to Newcastle and return
52 to Newcastle
So, Pulsars on 43/46 aren't odd on Sundays - B10BLEs less so

Wasn't aware of this, so thanks  Blush
omnicity4659
11 Jun 2017, 3:00 pm #72

(11 Jun 2017, 2:58 pm)Kuyoyo Sundays at Jesmond:

43/46/52/53 all interwork as followed:
Round trip on the 46
52 to Cramlington
Round trip on the 43 to Newcastle and return
Round trip on the 53
Round trip on the 43 to Newcastle and return
52 to Newcastle
So, Pulsars on 43/46 aren't odd on Sundays - B10BLEs less so

Wasn't aware of this, so thanks  Blush

Dan
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18138
11 Jun 2017, 3:15 pm
#73
(11 Jun 2017, 2:53 pm)omnicity4659 X15 E400 on X18, various ALX300s and Pulsars on GNR, B5LH on X9, MAX Pulsar on 46.

1408 (X16 branded) on 306/308 today, as well as a Streetlite. Think this is rare/odd now, as the 306 should be Pulsars?

Jesmond's 'deckers were on Metro Replacement today.
Dan
11 Jun 2017, 3:15 pm #73

(11 Jun 2017, 2:53 pm)omnicity4659 X15 E400 on X18, various ALX300s and Pulsars on GNR, B5LH on X9, MAX Pulsar on 46.

1408 (X16 branded) on 306/308 today, as well as a Streetlite. Think this is rare/odd now, as the 306 should be Pulsars?

Jesmond's 'deckers were on Metro Replacement today.

4177
11 Jun 2017, 3:28 pm
#74
(11 Jun 2017, 3:15 pm)Dan 1408 (X16 branded) on 306/308 today, as well as a Streetlite. Think this is rare/odd now, as the 306 should be Pulsars?

Jesmond's 'deckers were on Metro Replacement today.

Not sure if all of the Pulsars have been refurbished yet, so I guess a Streetlite could still be correct?

Potentially also an opportunity for Jesmond to start branding the Pulsars that have been completed.
mb134
11 Jun 2017, 3:28 pm #74

(11 Jun 2017, 3:15 pm)Dan 1408 (X16 branded) on 306/308 today, as well as a Streetlite. Think this is rare/odd now, as the 306 should be Pulsars?

Jesmond's 'deckers were on Metro Replacement today.

Not sure if all of the Pulsars have been refurbished yet, so I guess a Streetlite could still be correct?

Potentially also an opportunity for Jesmond to start branding the Pulsars that have been completed.

Dan
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18138
11 Jun 2017, 3:30 pm
#75
(11 Jun 2017, 3:28 pm)mb134 Not sure if all of the Pulsars have been refurbished yet, so I guess a Streetlite could still be correct?

Potentially also an opportunity for Jesmond to start branding the Pulsars that have been completed.

Their latest allocation sheet seems to suggest that the 306 should be operated entirely by Pulsars now - I assume if branded ones aren't available/haven't been refurbished yet, then unbranded ones should be allocated instead?
Dan
11 Jun 2017, 3:30 pm #75

(11 Jun 2017, 3:28 pm)mb134 Not sure if all of the Pulsars have been refurbished yet, so I guess a Streetlite could still be correct?

Potentially also an opportunity for Jesmond to start branding the Pulsars that have been completed.

Their latest allocation sheet seems to suggest that the 306 should be operated entirely by Pulsars now - I assume if branded ones aren't available/haven't been refurbished yet, then unbranded ones should be allocated instead?

4177
11 Jun 2017, 3:31 pm
#76
7456 was operating the 57 on Thursday. 

7502 also appeared in Ashington Bus Station on an X20 to Alnwick around 18:00, though this could be the one that works off an X21/22 board?

(11 Jun 2017, 3:30 pm)Dan Their latest allocation sheet seems to suggest that the 306 should be operated entirely by Pulsars now - I assume if branded ones aren't available/haven't been refurbished yet, then unbranded ones should be allocated instead?

Yeah that's fair enough. My thinking was that it could be covering for anything that was currently away for a refurbishment, still doesn't make it a correct working though!
mb134
11 Jun 2017, 3:31 pm #76

7456 was operating the 57 on Thursday. 

7502 also appeared in Ashington Bus Station on an X20 to Alnwick around 18:00, though this could be the one that works off an X21/22 board?


(11 Jun 2017, 3:30 pm)Dan Their latest allocation sheet seems to suggest that the 306 should be operated entirely by Pulsars now - I assume if branded ones aren't available/haven't been refurbished yet, then unbranded ones should be allocated instead?

Yeah that's fair enough. My thinking was that it could be covering for anything that was currently away for a refurbishment, still doesn't make it a correct working though!

11 Jun 2017, 3:46 pm
#77
1512 should be operating the next 306 to Tynemouth

(11 Jun 2017, 3:31 pm)mb134 7456 was operating the 57 on Thursday. 

7502 also appeared in Ashington Bus Station on an X20 to Alnwick around 18:00, though this could be the one that works off an X21/22 board?

Last bus to Alnwick is 1729, and the bus stays up there. This is a X20 board.



Plenty of DLAs in Jesmond depot earlier, explains why I couldn't see any VLWs.
omnicity4659
11 Jun 2017, 3:46 pm #77

1512 should be operating the next 306 to Tynemouth


(11 Jun 2017, 3:31 pm)mb134 7456 was operating the 57 on Thursday. 

7502 also appeared in Ashington Bus Station on an X20 to Alnwick around 18:00, though this could be the one that works off an X21/22 board?

Last bus to Alnwick is 1729, and the bus stays up there. This is a X20 board.



Plenty of DLAs in Jesmond depot earlier, explains why I couldn't see any VLWs.

4177
11 Jun 2017, 3:54 pm
#78
(11 Jun 2017, 3:46 pm)omnicity4659 Last bus to Alnwick is 1729, and the bus stays up there. This is a X20 board.

Ah okay, so it was just running very late! Assuming it must have replaced a break down somewhere along the line. 

Haven't seen 7416 either of the times I've been through to Newcastle this week, or around Ashington, do you know whereabouts it is?
mb134
11 Jun 2017, 3:54 pm #78

(11 Jun 2017, 3:46 pm)omnicity4659 Last bus to Alnwick is 1729, and the bus stays up there. This is a X20 board.

Ah okay, so it was just running very late! Assuming it must have replaced a break down somewhere along the line. 

Haven't seen 7416 either of the times I've been through to Newcastle this week, or around Ashington, do you know whereabouts it is?

11 Jun 2017, 4:14 pm
#79
(11 Jun 2017, 3:54 pm)mb134 Ah okay, so it was just running very late! Assuming it must have replaced a break down somewhere along the line. 

Haven't seen 7416 either of the times I've been through to Newcastle this week, or around Ashington, do you know whereabouts it is?

I couldn't see it when I was at Ashington depot today, it may have been parked out of sight.

I saw it a couple of weeks ago in the depot, so I assume it's still here.
omnicity4659
11 Jun 2017, 4:14 pm #79

(11 Jun 2017, 3:54 pm)mb134 Ah okay, so it was just running very late! Assuming it must have replaced a break down somewhere along the line. 

Haven't seen 7416 either of the times I've been through to Newcastle this week, or around Ashington, do you know whereabouts it is?

I couldn't see it when I was at Ashington depot today, it may have been parked out of sight.

I saw it a couple of weeks ago in the depot, so I assume it's still here.

4177
11 Jun 2017, 4:22 pm
#80
(11 Jun 2017, 4:14 pm)omnicity4659 I couldn't see it when I was at Ashington depot today, it may have been parked out of sight.

I saw it a couple of weeks ago in the depot, so I assume it's still here.

Assuming that it's still pretty unreliable then? 

On the topic of Ashington, hopefully they get a chance to look at some of the 14 plate E400's before the new vehicles arrive. 7522 has gone without a Sapphire logo on the front for as long as I can remember, and the upstairs front panel of 7524 is an absolute disgrace for a 'premium' service. Noticed a couple of other things, but I can't remember what they were.
mb134
11 Jun 2017, 4:22 pm #80

(11 Jun 2017, 4:14 pm)omnicity4659 I couldn't see it when I was at Ashington depot today, it may have been parked out of sight.

I saw it a couple of weeks ago in the depot, so I assume it's still here.

Assuming that it's still pretty unreliable then? 

On the topic of Ashington, hopefully they get a chance to look at some of the 14 plate E400's before the new vehicles arrive. 7522 has gone without a Sapphire logo on the front for as long as I can remember, and the upstairs front panel of 7524 is an absolute disgrace for a 'premium' service. Noticed a couple of other things, but I can't remember what they were.

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