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Andreos1



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21 Jun 2017, 2:07 pm #581
(21 Jun 2017, 1:37 pm)Michael I can't see the logic in the changes too, sounds worse, yes they'll be all timed to arrive at the galleries so they can connect but most of the time, that won't happen.


So what's the 2A change?

It's partially filling a gap left due to the withdrawal of part of the 85 on a Sunday


service 2A will divert to operate the section between Fatfield Road and Brady Square.
Edited 21 Jun 2017, 2:08 pm by Andreos1.
'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
21 Jun 2017, 2:07 pm #581

(21 Jun 2017, 1:37 pm)Michael I can't see the logic in the changes too, sounds worse, yes they'll be all timed to arrive at the galleries so they can connect but most of the time, that won't happen.


So what's the 2A change?

It's partially filling a gap left due to the withdrawal of part of the 85 on a Sunday


service 2A will divert to operate the section between Fatfield Road and Brady Square.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'

Michael



19,177
21 Jun 2017, 2:18 pm #582
(21 Jun 2017, 2:07 pm)Andreos1 It's partially filling a gap left due to the withdrawal of part of the 85 on a Sunday

Ah right cheers, Smile
Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
21 Jun 2017, 2:18 pm #582

(21 Jun 2017, 2:07 pm)Andreos1 It's partially filling a gap left due to the withdrawal of part of the 85 on a Sunday

Ah right cheers, Smile

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Michael



19,177
22 Jun 2017, 5:50 pm #583
New timetables are now online for the changes on the 23rd July.

No link for full details and the new timetables are set out in Black and White (expect for the 81/82/83/84)
Edited 22 Jun 2017, 6:07 pm by Michael.
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Michael
22 Jun 2017, 5:50 pm #583

New timetables are now online for the changes on the 23rd July.

No link for full details and the new timetables are set out in Black and White (expect for the 81/82/83/84)

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Tom

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6,138
22 Jun 2017, 6:30 pm #584
(22 Jun 2017, 5:50 pm)Michael New timetables are now online for the changes on the 23rd July.

No link for full details and the new timetables are set out in Black and White (expect for the 81/82/83/84)

So the Washington service changes aren't as bad as they seemed!
Tom
22 Jun 2017, 6:30 pm #584

(22 Jun 2017, 5:50 pm)Michael New timetables are now online for the changes on the 23rd July.

No link for full details and the new timetables are set out in Black and White (expect for the 81/82/83/84)

So the Washington service changes aren't as bad as they seemed!

Michael



19,177
22 Jun 2017, 6:34 pm #585
(22 Jun 2017, 6:30 pm)Tom So the Washington service changes aren't as bad as they seemed!

Na they aren't, the Tynedale Links changes look decent too, but can't work out the new PVR for the Hexham services, due to the interworking etc but i would think it would allow them to remove the MPD's from Hexham.
Edited 22 Jun 2017, 6:35 pm by Michael.
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Michael
22 Jun 2017, 6:34 pm #585

(22 Jun 2017, 6:30 pm)Tom So the Washington service changes aren't as bad as they seemed!

Na they aren't, the Tynedale Links changes look decent too, but can't work out the new PVR for the Hexham services, due to the interworking etc but i would think it would allow them to remove the MPD's from Hexham.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

S813 FVK



6,030
22 Jun 2017, 6:34 pm #586
X66 reduced to operate every 10 minutes Sunday to Friday (7/8 minutes on Saturdays) with a bus doing a loop around the Metrocentre every 20 minutes (every 15 minutes on Saturdays).

I imagine that this would have been done to retain the current PVR of 4/5.
S813 FVK
22 Jun 2017, 6:34 pm #586

X66 reduced to operate every 10 minutes Sunday to Friday (7/8 minutes on Saturdays) with a bus doing a loop around the Metrocentre every 20 minutes (every 15 minutes on Saturdays).

I imagine that this would have been done to retain the current PVR of 4/5.

Michael



19,177
22 Jun 2017, 6:43 pm #587
(22 Jun 2017, 6:34 pm)S813 FVK X66 reduced to operate every 10 minutes Sunday to Friday (7/8 minutes on Saturdays) with a bus doing a loop around the Metrocentre every 20 minutes (every 15 minutes on Saturdays).

I imagine that this would have been done to retain the current PVR of 4/5.

Not surprised the loop section is reduced.
Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
22 Jun 2017, 6:43 pm #587

(22 Jun 2017, 6:34 pm)S813 FVK X66 reduced to operate every 10 minutes Sunday to Friday (7/8 minutes on Saturdays) with a bus doing a loop around the Metrocentre every 20 minutes (every 15 minutes on Saturdays).

I imagine that this would have been done to retain the current PVR of 4/5.

Not surprised the loop section is reduced.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Ds1197



506
22 Jun 2017, 6:58 pm #588
(22 Jun 2017, 5:50 pm)Michael New timetables are now online for the changes on the 23rd July.

No link for full details and the new timetables are set out in Black and White (expect for the 81/82/83/84)

Yes finally a direct link between Heworth and Birtley without having change buses.
Ds1197
22 Jun 2017, 6:58 pm #588

(22 Jun 2017, 5:50 pm)Michael New timetables are now online for the changes on the 23rd July.

No link for full details and the new timetables are set out in Black and White (expect for the 81/82/83/84)

Yes finally a direct link between Heworth and Birtley without having change buses.

S813 FVK



6,030
22 Jun 2017, 6:58 pm #589
(22 Jun 2017, 6:43 pm)Michael Not surprised the loop section is reduced.

It will be interesting if they keep the £1 flat fare on the circular route - I don't see why they would not be able to.
S813 FVK
22 Jun 2017, 6:58 pm #589

(22 Jun 2017, 6:43 pm)Michael Not surprised the loop section is reduced.

It will be interesting if they keep the £1 flat fare on the circular route - I don't see why they would not be able to.

Tom

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6,138
22 Jun 2017, 7:05 pm #590
Think the Hexham PVR will be reduced by 1.

Noticed GNE have re-timed the X85 to run in front of the 685 now too.
Tom
22 Jun 2017, 7:05 pm #590

Think the Hexham PVR will be reduced by 1.

Noticed GNE have re-timed the X85 to run in front of the 685 now too.

S813 FVK



6,030
22 Jun 2017, 7:13 pm #591
(22 Jun 2017, 7:05 pm)Tom Think the Hexham PVR will be reduced by 1.

In case you haven't included it, could that 1 bus be redeployed on the 689 if what has said previously is correct?
S813 FVK
22 Jun 2017, 7:13 pm #591

(22 Jun 2017, 7:05 pm)Tom Think the Hexham PVR will be reduced by 1.

In case you haven't included it, could that 1 bus be redeployed on the 689 if what has said previously is correct?

Tom

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6,138
22 Jun 2017, 7:16 pm #592
(22 Jun 2017, 7:13 pm)S813 FVK In case you haven't included it, could that 1 bus be redeployed on the 689 if what has said previously is correct?

Yeah I forgot about the 689 so it could be the same
Tom
22 Jun 2017, 7:16 pm #592

(22 Jun 2017, 7:13 pm)S813 FVK In case you haven't included it, could that 1 bus be redeployed on the 689 if what has said previously is correct?

Yeah I forgot about the 689 so it could be the same

Adrian

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9,595
22 Jun 2017, 7:19 pm #593
(22 Jun 2017, 6:30 pm)Tom So the Washington service changes aren't as bad as they seemed!

You'd have to train the average punter to be able to decipher the timetable first... I appreciate that they've done it to try and illustrate the through services, but clumping it altogether, it is blooming confusing!

For example -
81 from Rickleton to the Galleries -> 84 from the Galleries to Heworth
82 from Birtley to the Galleries -> 83 from the Galleries to Concord

But on the way back it changes as follows - 
83 from Concord to the Galleries -> 81 from the Galleries to Rickleton
84 from Heworth to the Galleries -> 82 from the Galleries to Birtley

So you can get from Rickleton to Heworth direct for example, but you can't get back? Same from Biddick to Rickleton, Rickleton to the Village, for example. 

Also noted that the last bus either direction through Sainsburys car park seems to be around 10 to 6 on an evening. The 85/86 look to still run, but not much use for those needing an 81/82/83/84. There is no access through the Galleries from about 8pm, so those finishing work at Sainsburys etc will need to walk right round the perimeter to the bus station.

Looks like the non-serving of Savacentre/Sainsburys car park on a Sunday continues too, which I've found a bit strange. Beats me why you wouldn't serve a huge supermarket on a Sunday, for the sake of an extra minute or so.
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Adrian
22 Jun 2017, 7:19 pm #593

(22 Jun 2017, 6:30 pm)Tom So the Washington service changes aren't as bad as they seemed!

You'd have to train the average punter to be able to decipher the timetable first... I appreciate that they've done it to try and illustrate the through services, but clumping it altogether, it is blooming confusing!

For example -
81 from Rickleton to the Galleries -> 84 from the Galleries to Heworth
82 from Birtley to the Galleries -> 83 from the Galleries to Concord

But on the way back it changes as follows - 
83 from Concord to the Galleries -> 81 from the Galleries to Rickleton
84 from Heworth to the Galleries -> 82 from the Galleries to Birtley

So you can get from Rickleton to Heworth direct for example, but you can't get back? Same from Biddick to Rickleton, Rickleton to the Village, for example. 

Also noted that the last bus either direction through Sainsburys car park seems to be around 10 to 6 on an evening. The 85/86 look to still run, but not much use for those needing an 81/82/83/84. There is no access through the Galleries from about 8pm, so those finishing work at Sainsburys etc will need to walk right round the perimeter to the bus station.

Looks like the non-serving of Savacentre/Sainsburys car park on a Sunday continues too, which I've found a bit strange. Beats me why you wouldn't serve a huge supermarket on a Sunday, for the sake of an extra minute or so.

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nk55



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22 Jun 2017, 8:13 pm #594
(22 Jun 2017, 7:13 pm)S813 FVK In case you haven't included it, could that 1 bus be redeployed on the 689 if what has said previously is correct?

689 allocation will indeed move to Hexham, this bus also does the 836 tanfield to crookgate, and a run on the 12 & 90, so there's possibly less dead mileage from Hexham as I 1st thought.
nk55
22 Jun 2017, 8:13 pm #594

(22 Jun 2017, 7:13 pm)S813 FVK In case you haven't included it, could that 1 bus be redeployed on the 689 if what has said previously is correct?

689 allocation will indeed move to Hexham, this bus also does the 836 tanfield to crookgate, and a run on the 12 & 90, so there's possibly less dead mileage from Hexham as I 1st thought.

Ambassador



1,866
22 Jun 2017, 11:02 pm #595
(22 Jun 2017, 6:58 pm)Ds1197 Yes finally a direct link between Heworth and Birtley without having change buses.

Huh

You don't have to change buses now....
Wistfully stuck in the 90s
Ambassador
22 Jun 2017, 11:02 pm #595

(22 Jun 2017, 6:58 pm)Ds1197 Yes finally a direct link between Heworth and Birtley without having change buses.

Huh

You don't have to change buses now....

Wistfully stuck in the 90s

Washingtonian



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22 Jun 2017, 11:05 pm #596
(22 Jun 2017, 5:50 pm)Michael New timetables are now online for the changes on the 23rd July.

No link for full details and the new timetables are set out in Black and White (expect for the 81/82/83/84)

Sorry I can't find where the info is for these changes. I've looked on the Go North East website and facebook page, nexus and done a google search and can't find anything. I don't suppose you have a link please? Thanks
Washingtonian
22 Jun 2017, 11:05 pm #596

(22 Jun 2017, 5:50 pm)Michael New timetables are now online for the changes on the 23rd July.

No link for full details and the new timetables are set out in Black and White (expect for the 81/82/83/84)

Sorry I can't find where the info is for these changes. I've looked on the Go North East website and facebook page, nexus and done a google search and can't find anything. I don't suppose you have a link please? Thanks

Ds1197



506
22 Jun 2017, 11:19 pm #597
(22 Jun 2017, 11:05 pm)Washingtonian Sorry I can't find where the info is for these changes. I've looked on the Go North East website and facebook page, nexus and done a google search and can't find anything. I don't suppose you have a link please? Thanks

It's in the actual timetable bit of the website
(22 Jun 2017, 11:02 pm)Ambassador Huh

You don't have to change buses now....

Towards Birtley the service runs though from heworth but on return you can only get as far as concord most of the time apart from one early morning during the week and a few on a Saturday morning
Edited 22 Jun 2017, 11:22 pm by Ds1197.
Ds1197
22 Jun 2017, 11:19 pm #597

(22 Jun 2017, 11:05 pm)Washingtonian Sorry I can't find where the info is for these changes. I've looked on the Go North East website and facebook page, nexus and done a google search and can't find anything. I don't suppose you have a link please? Thanks

It's in the actual timetable bit of the website
(22 Jun 2017, 11:02 pm)Ambassador Huh

You don't have to change buses now....

Towards Birtley the service runs though from heworth but on return you can only get as far as concord most of the time apart from one early morning during the week and a few on a Saturday morning

Washingtonian



182
22 Jun 2017, 11:43 pm #598
(22 Jun 2017, 11:05 pm)Washingtonian Sorry I can't find where the info is for these changes. I've looked on the Go North East website and facebook page, nexus and done a google search and can't find anything. I don't suppose you have a link please? Thanks

(22 Jun 2017, 11:19 pm)Ds1197 It's in the actual timetable bit of the website
Ah right, I see it now. Thanks a lot
Dear me! While there are some good changes to the services in Washington, it is bloomin confusing! I can see the elderley people getting confused here. They should go back to the old W1-6 and be done with it. These services were often very reliable and very well used. Since they extended the routes to Birtley and Heworth, there has been nothing but chaos!
Edited 22 Jun 2017, 11:50 pm by Washingtonian.
Washingtonian
22 Jun 2017, 11:43 pm #598

(22 Jun 2017, 11:05 pm)Washingtonian Sorry I can't find where the info is for these changes. I've looked on the Go North East website and facebook page, nexus and done a google search and can't find anything. I don't suppose you have a link please? Thanks

(22 Jun 2017, 11:19 pm)Ds1197 It's in the actual timetable bit of the website
Ah right, I see it now. Thanks a lot
Dear me! While there are some good changes to the services in Washington, it is bloomin confusing! I can see the elderley people getting confused here. They should go back to the old W1-6 and be done with it. These services were often very reliable and very well used. Since they extended the routes to Birtley and Heworth, there has been nothing but chaos!

G-CPTN



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23 Jun 2017, 6:51 am #599
WRT Hexham changes, I have heard that ALDI is going to lose some connections.  Sad

Oh and John the depot manager is leaving.  Sad

Retiming the X85 to run ahead of Arriva's 685 was a no-brainer.
G-CPTN
23 Jun 2017, 6:51 am #599

WRT Hexham changes, I have heard that ALDI is going to lose some connections.  Sad

Oh and John the depot manager is leaving.  Sad

Retiming the X85 to run ahead of Arriva's 685 was a no-brainer.

Michael



19,177
23 Jun 2017, 10:15 am #600
Just got an email from Go North East about the changes:

http://newsroom.gonortheast.co.uk/news/s...017-248135
Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
23 Jun 2017, 10:15 am #600

Just got an email from Go North East about the changes:

http://newsroom.gonortheast.co.uk/news/s...017-248135

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

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