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Jamie M

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03 Apr 2018, 11:49 pm #281
(03 Apr 2018, 11:08 pm)JM03 How does the 44 go onto Mullen road then Wiltshire drive?

A186 or jetpack.
Jamie M
03 Apr 2018, 11:49 pm #281

(03 Apr 2018, 11:08 pm)JM03 How does the 44 go onto Mullen road then Wiltshire drive?

A186 or jetpack.

V514DFT



2,251
04 Apr 2018, 3:06 am #282
(03 Apr 2018, 11:08 pm)JM03 How does the 44 go onto Mullen road then Wiltshire drive?

Exeter Road

Kind Regards
Tez
V514DFT
04 Apr 2018, 3:06 am #282

(03 Apr 2018, 11:08 pm)JM03 How does the 44 go onto Mullen road then Wiltshire drive?

Exeter Road


Kind Regards
Tez

JM03



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05 Apr 2018, 7:35 pm #283
(03 Apr 2018, 11:49 pm)Jamie M A186 or jetpack.

(04 Apr 2018, 3:06 am)V514DFT Exeter Road

Going towards Whitley, its got whiltshire drive after mullen road and then continues to the coast.
JM03
05 Apr 2018, 7:35 pm #283

(03 Apr 2018, 11:49 pm)Jamie M A186 or jetpack.

(04 Apr 2018, 3:06 am)V514DFT Exeter Road

Going towards Whitley, its got whiltshire drive after mullen road and then continues to the coast.

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05 Apr 2018, 11:16 pm #284
(05 Apr 2018, 7:35 pm)JM03 Going towards Whitley, its got whiltshire drive after mullen road and then continues to the coast.

Old 322 route

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Tez
V514DFT
05 Apr 2018, 11:16 pm #284

(05 Apr 2018, 7:35 pm)JM03 Going towards Whitley, its got whiltshire drive after mullen road and then continues to the coast.

Old 322 route


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Tez

Andreos1



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06 Apr 2018, 5:27 pm #285
X6/X7.

Extend to Newcastle from Sunderland via Newcastle Road/Boldon or a quicker variant of the X36 route.

In the recent past, most of the Newcastle Road services were stand-alone, relying on picking up at Sunderland and points along the way.

Appreciate there was a variant of the 161 at one point, but who is going to travel from Low Moorsley, Hetton, Houghton etc on that, when you have a faster, more frequent alternative.

If the X6/7 is extended, it wouldn't be relying on passengers from Sunderland or points along the way, it's loads would be supplemented by those travelling from points south of Sunderland across the city and beyond
Edited 06 Apr 2018, 5:28 pm by Andreos1.

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Andreos1
06 Apr 2018, 5:27 pm #285

X6/X7.

Extend to Newcastle from Sunderland via Newcastle Road/Boldon or a quicker variant of the X36 route.

In the recent past, most of the Newcastle Road services were stand-alone, relying on picking up at Sunderland and points along the way.

Appreciate there was a variant of the 161 at one point, but who is going to travel from Low Moorsley, Hetton, Houghton etc on that, when you have a faster, more frequent alternative.

If the X6/7 is extended, it wouldn't be relying on passengers from Sunderland or points along the way, it's loads would be supplemented by those travelling from points south of Sunderland across the city and beyond


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cbma06



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06 Apr 2018, 5:38 pm #286
(06 Apr 2018, 5:27 pm)Andreos1 X6/X7.

Extend to Newcastle from Sunderland via Newcastle Road/Boldon or a quicker variant of the X36 route.

In the recent past, most of the Newcastle Road services were stand-alone, relying on picking up at Sunderland and points along the way.

Appreciate there was a variant of the 161 at one point, but who is going to travel from Low Moorsley, Hetton, Houghton etc on that, when you have a faster, more frequent alternative.

If the X6/7 is extended, it wouldn't be relying on passengers from Sunderland or points along the way, it's loads would be supplemented by those travelling from points south of Sunderland across the city and beyond


Hope not, I live on the only GNE route x7 and I don’t need it to be delayed any further than it is from the A19 as some of the x7 bus services have already turned around at Peterlee bus station coming from Sunderland and headed back to Sunderland and not doing the circular route in Peterlee, it will be more unreliable with congestion in Newcastle area.


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cbma06
06 Apr 2018, 5:38 pm #286

(06 Apr 2018, 5:27 pm)Andreos1 X6/X7.

Extend to Newcastle from Sunderland via Newcastle Road/Boldon or a quicker variant of the X36 route.

In the recent past, most of the Newcastle Road services were stand-alone, relying on picking up at Sunderland and points along the way.

Appreciate there was a variant of the 161 at one point, but who is going to travel from Low Moorsley, Hetton, Houghton etc on that, when you have a faster, more frequent alternative.

If the X6/7 is extended, it wouldn't be relying on passengers from Sunderland or points along the way, it's loads would be supplemented by those travelling from points south of Sunderland across the city and beyond


Hope not, I live on the only GNE route x7 and I don’t need it to be delayed any further than it is from the A19 as some of the x7 bus services have already turned around at Peterlee bus station coming from Sunderland and headed back to Sunderland and not doing the circular route in Peterlee, it will be more unreliable with congestion in Newcastle area.


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Ds1197



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06 Apr 2018, 6:35 pm #287
(06 Apr 2018, 5:27 pm)Andreos1 X6/X7.

Extend to Newcastle from Sunderland via Newcastle Road/Boldon or a quicker variant of the X36 route.

In the recent past, most of the Newcastle Road services were stand-alone, relying on picking up at Sunderland and points along the way.

Appreciate there was a variant of the 161 at one point, but who is going to travel from Low Moorsley, Hetton, Houghton etc on that, when you have a faster, more frequent alternative.

If the X6/7 is extended, it wouldn't be relying on passengers from Sunderland or points along the way, it's loads would be supplemented by those travelling from points south of Sunderland across the city and beyond

I think the X7 should still go to Middlesbrough does any know why the service was withdrawn between Peterlee and Middlesbrough?
Ds1197
06 Apr 2018, 6:35 pm #287

(06 Apr 2018, 5:27 pm)Andreos1 X6/X7.

Extend to Newcastle from Sunderland via Newcastle Road/Boldon or a quicker variant of the X36 route.

In the recent past, most of the Newcastle Road services were stand-alone, relying on picking up at Sunderland and points along the way.

Appreciate there was a variant of the 161 at one point, but who is going to travel from Low Moorsley, Hetton, Houghton etc on that, when you have a faster, more frequent alternative.

If the X6/7 is extended, it wouldn't be relying on passengers from Sunderland or points along the way, it's loads would be supplemented by those travelling from points south of Sunderland across the city and beyond

I think the X7 should still go to Middlesbrough does any know why the service was withdrawn between Peterlee and Middlesbrough?

Michael



19,175
06 Apr 2018, 6:37 pm #288
(06 Apr 2018, 6:35 pm)Ds1197 I think the X7 should still go to Middlesbrough does any know why the service was withdrawn between Peterlee and Middlesbrough?

Low passenger numbers

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
06 Apr 2018, 6:37 pm #288

(06 Apr 2018, 6:35 pm)Ds1197 I think the X7 should still go to Middlesbrough does any know why the service was withdrawn between Peterlee and Middlesbrough?

Low passenger numbers


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Ds1197



506
06 Apr 2018, 6:40 pm #289
(06 Apr 2018, 6:37 pm)Michael Low passenger numbers

It always seemed quite full when I used it
Ds1197
06 Apr 2018, 6:40 pm #289

(06 Apr 2018, 6:37 pm)Michael Low passenger numbers

It always seemed quite full when I used it

cbma06



2,669
06 Apr 2018, 6:41 pm #290
(06 Apr 2018, 6:35 pm)Ds1197 I think the X7 should still go to Middlesbrough does any know why the service was withdrawn between Peterlee and Middlesbrough?


Probably be because of service X9 timed a few minutes later from Peterlee to Middlesbrough which had more luxury than the X7


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cbma06
06 Apr 2018, 6:41 pm #290

(06 Apr 2018, 6:35 pm)Ds1197 I think the X7 should still go to Middlesbrough does any know why the service was withdrawn between Peterlee and Middlesbrough?


Probably be because of service X9 timed a few minutes later from Peterlee to Middlesbrough which had more luxury than the X7


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Jamie M

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06 Apr 2018, 6:47 pm #291
(06 Apr 2018, 6:41 pm)cbma06 Probably be because of service X9 timed a few minutes later from Peterlee to Middlesbrough which had more luxury than the X7


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I'm guessing though, that the problem stems from lack of funding from council. The only difference between the two services was that the TTX offered plugs that *sometimes* worked. Could've just set a Euro requirement for the service to reduce the amount of funding needed to keep the link up. Guess we're in times though, where leading figures cannot be picky between what's kept and what isn't. Just my opinion anyway.
Jamie M
06 Apr 2018, 6:47 pm #291

(06 Apr 2018, 6:41 pm)cbma06 Probably be because of service X9 timed a few minutes later from Peterlee to Middlesbrough which had more luxury than the X7


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I'm guessing though, that the problem stems from lack of funding from council. The only difference between the two services was that the TTX offered plugs that *sometimes* worked. Could've just set a Euro requirement for the service to reduce the amount of funding needed to keep the link up. Guess we're in times though, where leading figures cannot be picky between what's kept and what isn't. Just my opinion anyway.

Jimmi



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06 Apr 2018, 6:56 pm #292
The fact that Arriva decided to send their X21 service via Seaham observing the same route as the X7 could have been part of the reason why the changes may have happened, increasing the offering between Peterlee and Sunderland from hourly to half hourly to potentially fend off people from switching to the X21.
Jimmi
06 Apr 2018, 6:56 pm #292

The fact that Arriva decided to send their X21 service via Seaham observing the same route as the X7 could have been part of the reason why the changes may have happened, increasing the offering between Peterlee and Sunderland from hourly to half hourly to potentially fend off people from switching to the X21.

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06 Apr 2018, 7:11 pm #293
Anyone who wants to go to Middlesbrough or Stockton from Sunderland, can always get service X6/X7 from Sunderland and change either at dalton park or Peterlee to service X9/X10, didn’t need another express run between Peterlee and Middlesbrough timed closely with existing express services


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cbma06
06 Apr 2018, 7:11 pm #293

Anyone who wants to go to Middlesbrough or Stockton from Sunderland, can always get service X6/X7 from Sunderland and change either at dalton park or Peterlee to service X9/X10, didn’t need another express run between Peterlee and Middlesbrough timed closely with existing express services


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06 Apr 2018, 7:34 pm #294
(06 Apr 2018, 5:38 pm)cbma06 Hope not, I live on the only GNE route x7 and I don’t need it to be delayed any further than it is from the A19 as some of the x7 bus services have already turned around at Peterlee bus station coming from Sunderland and headed back to Sunderland and not doing the circular route in Peterlee, it will be more unreliable with congestion in Newcastle area.


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Surely it's how they manage it?
Whilst I don't agree with the principle of adding time, making the journey 'longer' or having a bus stand around at a terminus for an age and don't think it's the best use of resources, it does work to an extent.
I feared the 20 extension to Shields, but on the whole, I haven't noticed the reliability change too much.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
06 Apr 2018, 7:34 pm #294

(06 Apr 2018, 5:38 pm)cbma06 Hope not, I live on the only GNE route x7 and I don’t need it to be delayed any further than it is from the A19 as some of the x7 bus services have already turned around at Peterlee bus station coming from Sunderland and headed back to Sunderland and not doing the circular route in Peterlee, it will be more unreliable with congestion in Newcastle area.


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Surely it's how they manage it?
Whilst I don't agree with the principle of adding time, making the journey 'longer' or having a bus stand around at a terminus for an age and don't think it's the best use of resources, it does work to an extent.
I feared the 20 extension to Shields, but on the whole, I haven't noticed the reliability change too much.


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

cbma06



2,669
06 Apr 2018, 9:08 pm #295
(06 Apr 2018, 7:34 pm)Andreos1 Surely it's how they manage it?
Whilst I don't agree with the principle of adding time, making the journey 'longer' or having a bus stand around at a terminus for an age and don't think it's the best use of resources, it does work to an extent.
I feared the 20 extension to Shields, but on the whole, I haven't noticed the reliability change too much.


The 20 extension to shields is ridiculous, many times I’ve been at carville and Belmont with either big gaps or the services are bunched up together and have the services running late so not in service from Durham which leaves passengers crammed onto another 20 which in turn on route passengers can’t get on which cause passengers on route waiting 20 minutes or later trying to get on the 20’s, should of extended service 60 to shields, there’s also comments from drivers saying the shields section is been badly hurt from delays on the Durham section.


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cbma06
06 Apr 2018, 9:08 pm #295

(06 Apr 2018, 7:34 pm)Andreos1 Surely it's how they manage it?
Whilst I don't agree with the principle of adding time, making the journey 'longer' or having a bus stand around at a terminus for an age and don't think it's the best use of resources, it does work to an extent.
I feared the 20 extension to Shields, but on the whole, I haven't noticed the reliability change too much.


The 20 extension to shields is ridiculous, many times I’ve been at carville and Belmont with either big gaps or the services are bunched up together and have the services running late so not in service from Durham which leaves passengers crammed onto another 20 which in turn on route passengers can’t get on which cause passengers on route waiting 20 minutes or later trying to get on the 20’s, should of extended service 60 to shields, there’s also comments from drivers saying the shields section is been badly hurt from delays on the Durham section.


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Jamie M

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06 Apr 2018, 9:19 pm #296
(06 Apr 2018, 9:08 pm)cbma06 The 20 extension to shields is ridiculous, many times I’ve been at carville and Belmont with either big gaps or the services are bunched up together and have the services running late so not in service from Durham which leaves passengers crammed onto another 20 which in turn on route passengers can’t get on which cause passengers on route waiting 20 minutes or later trying to get on the 20’s, should of extended  service 60 to shields, there’s also comments from drivers saying the shields section is been badly hurt from delays on the Durham section.


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I would say peak time needs 10 minutes layover at Durham. An extra bus somewhere for a couple of hours would probably do it. I don't think the length or frequency matters so long as there's plentiful stop time.
Jamie M
06 Apr 2018, 9:19 pm #296

(06 Apr 2018, 9:08 pm)cbma06 The 20 extension to shields is ridiculous, many times I’ve been at carville and Belmont with either big gaps or the services are bunched up together and have the services running late so not in service from Durham which leaves passengers crammed onto another 20 which in turn on route passengers can’t get on which cause passengers on route waiting 20 minutes or later trying to get on the 20’s, should of extended  service 60 to shields, there’s also comments from drivers saying the shields section is been badly hurt from delays on the Durham section.


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I would say peak time needs 10 minutes layover at Durham. An extra bus somewhere for a couple of hours would probably do it. I don't think the length or frequency matters so long as there's plentiful stop time.

Andreos1



14,241
06 Apr 2018, 9:24 pm #297
(06 Apr 2018, 9:08 pm)cbma06 The 20 extension to shields is ridiculous, many times I’ve been at carville and Belmont with either big gaps or the services are bunched up together and have the services running late so not in service from Durham which leaves passengers crammed onto another 20 which in turn on route passengers can’t get on which cause passengers on route waiting 20 minutes or later trying to get on the 20’s, should of extended  service 60 to shields, there’s also comments from drivers saying the shields section is been badly hurt from delays on the Durham section.


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That all happened before it was extended. 
Curtail it back to a Durham - Sunderland run and it will still happen.

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Andreos1
06 Apr 2018, 9:24 pm #297

(06 Apr 2018, 9:08 pm)cbma06 The 20 extension to shields is ridiculous, many times I’ve been at carville and Belmont with either big gaps or the services are bunched up together and have the services running late so not in service from Durham which leaves passengers crammed onto another 20 which in turn on route passengers can’t get on which cause passengers on route waiting 20 minutes or later trying to get on the 20’s, should of extended  service 60 to shields, there’s also comments from drivers saying the shields section is been badly hurt from delays on the Durham section.


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That all happened before it was extended. 
Curtail it back to a Durham - Sunderland run and it will still happen.


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JM03



505
06 Apr 2018, 11:56 pm #298
The 60 could take over the 265 to Durham from Seaham so theres another link between Sunderland and Durham.
JM03
06 Apr 2018, 11:56 pm #298

The 60 could take over the 265 to Durham from Seaham so theres another link between Sunderland and Durham.

cbma06



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07 Apr 2018, 5:40 am #299
(06 Apr 2018, 11:56 pm)JM03 The 60 could take over the 265 to Durham from Seaham so theres another link between Sunderland and Durham.


Those were the days when the 154 was extended to Sunderland from seaham and also the metroriders on the 254, both services Durham-murton-seaham-Sunderland

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Edited 07 Apr 2018, 5:41 am by cbma06.


cbma06
07 Apr 2018, 5:40 am #299

(06 Apr 2018, 11:56 pm)JM03 The 60 could take over the 265 to Durham from Seaham so theres another link between Sunderland and Durham.


Those were the days when the 154 was extended to Sunderland from seaham and also the metroriders on the 254, both services Durham-murton-seaham-Sunderland

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08 Apr 2018, 3:35 pm #300
(06 Apr 2018, 6:47 pm)Jamie M I'm guessing though, that the problem stems from lack of funding from council. The only difference between the two services was that the TTX offered plugs that *sometimes* worked. Could've just set a Euro requirement for the service to reduce the amount of funding needed to keep the link up. Guess we're in times though, where leading figures cannot be picky between what's kept and what isn't. Just my opinion anyway.

The council?

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
08 Apr 2018, 3:35 pm #300

(06 Apr 2018, 6:47 pm)Jamie M I'm guessing though, that the problem stems from lack of funding from council. The only difference between the two services was that the TTX offered plugs that *sometimes* worked. Could've just set a Euro requirement for the service to reduce the amount of funding needed to keep the link up. Guess we're in times though, where leading figures cannot be picky between what's kept and what isn't. Just my opinion anyway.

The council?


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

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