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S830OFT

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16 Jun 2018, 12:03 am #341

(15 Jun 2018, 10:37 pm)JM03 309/310 at every 20 mins is a plan for disaster

Not with service 311 along Coast Road aswell, along with service X39 at peak times. There is also service 57 which can take passengers to Newcastle, most passengers tend to get on the first bus that comes on that road.

S830OFT

16 Jun 2018, 12:03 am #341

(15 Jun 2018, 10:37 pm)JM03 309/310 at every 20 mins is a plan for disaster

Michael

19,175

16 Jun 2018, 8:58 am #342

64 and 95 to merge, because tbh, they're the most pointless routes Go North East have.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Michael

16 Jun 2018, 8:58 am #342

64 and 95 to merge, because tbh, they're the most pointless routes Go North East have.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

V514DFT

2,251

16 Jun 2018, 2:04 pm #343

(15 Jun 2018, 7:24 pm)S830OFT 301: Metrocentre - Gateshead - Newcastle - Byker - Wallsend - North Shields - Tynemouth - Whitley Bay - Seaton Sluice - Blyth.
Service 1 withdrawn and replaced by new service 301 to the Coast. Service 301 will operate from Metrocentre to Blyth operating direct to Gateshead then onto Coaster 1 route then extended to Blyth replacing service 309. This service will operate Every 15 minutes between Gateshead and Whitley Bay Monday to Saturday daytimes and a Every 30 minute frequency across the whole route Evening and Sundays.

309/310: Revised to operate every 20 minutes each with a combined frequency on Coast Road of up to Every 10 minutes.

311: Whitley Bay - North Tyneside Hospital - North Shields - Howdon - Wallsend - Coast Road - Newcastle. This new service will replace service 11 between Whitley Bay and Wallsend, then operate via Coast Road to reach Newcastle instead of via Byker.

*New* 48: This service will replace services 49A, 49C and 64, it will serve the Teams estate and omit Blaydon Bus Station. It will operate up to Every 20 minutes combined with service 49 to provide a bus up to Every 10 minutes. It will also NOT serve Bolam Street Flats.

X66: With the introduction of service 48 and 301 this service will return to a Express service operating up to Every 15 minutes, it will continue to serve Iqea.

*New* M5: Metrocentre - Rowlands Gill - Burnopfield - Stanley.
New Metrocentre Mini service that will combine with the 3 other services to make up 4 buses an hour between Stanley and Metrocentre. This will allow a Every 15 minute service between Stanley and Metrocentre.

95: Wrekenton - Low Fell - Gateshead - Team Valley North - Lobley Hill Gardens - Dunston - Metrocentre.
This service will replace service 1 and 11 on the south side of the Tyne. It will operate 2 journeys an hour, for example at 03 : 23 mins past. Also on Sundays and Evenings the service will serve Springwell Estate replacing service 56.

95A: Kibblesworth - Team Valley Sainsburys - Low Fell - Gateshead - Team Valley North - Lobley Hill (On Sundays service extends to Metrocentre)
New service replacing the current 1A and 95 on a hourly frequency. Service 95 and 95A combined will provide a every 20 minute service between Lobley Hill and Low Fell.

56: No longer serving Springwell Estate.

Wasnt the 1 originally the 301 along with the 302 which changed into the 1 and 2 in 2007,so why allow it to gain the '30' bit again,also at some point in the past the 301 did serve the metrocentre but was changed, the 49 used to also be the blaydon racers aswell as the 48 never really get why they changed its route number tbh, but it became the 49/A/B/C so if you changed the 49 why dont you have the 49 and 49A do 1 bit and have a 48 and 48A do the other bit you suggested

Kind Regards
Tez

V514DFT

16 Jun 2018, 2:04 pm #343

(15 Jun 2018, 7:24 pm)S830OFT 301: Metrocentre - Gateshead - Newcastle - Byker - Wallsend - North Shields - Tynemouth - Whitley Bay - Seaton Sluice - Blyth.
Service 1 withdrawn and replaced by new service 301 to the Coast. Service 301 will operate from Metrocentre to Blyth operating direct to Gateshead then onto Coaster 1 route then extended to Blyth replacing service 309. This service will operate Every 15 minutes between Gateshead and Whitley Bay Monday to Saturday daytimes and a Every 30 minute frequency across the whole route Evening and Sundays.

309/310: Revised to operate every 20 minutes each with a combined frequency on Coast Road of up to Every 10 minutes.

311: Whitley Bay - North Tyneside Hospital - North Shields - Howdon - Wallsend - Coast Road - Newcastle. This new service will replace service 11 between Whitley Bay and Wallsend, then operate via Coast Road to reach Newcastle instead of via Byker.

*New* 48: This service will replace services 49A, 49C and 64, it will serve the Teams estate and omit Blaydon Bus Station. It will operate up to Every 20 minutes combined with service 49 to provide a bus up to Every 10 minutes. It will also NOT serve Bolam Street Flats.

X66: With the introduction of service 48 and 301 this service will return to a Express service operating up to Every 15 minutes, it will continue to serve Iqea.

*New* M5: Metrocentre - Rowlands Gill - Burnopfield - Stanley.
New Metrocentre Mini service that will combine with the 3 other services to make up 4 buses an hour between Stanley and Metrocentre. This will allow a Every 15 minute service between Stanley and Metrocentre.

95: Wrekenton - Low Fell - Gateshead - Team Valley North - Lobley Hill Gardens - Dunston - Metrocentre.
This service will replace service 1 and 11 on the south side of the Tyne. It will operate 2 journeys an hour, for example at 03 : 23 mins past. Also on Sundays and Evenings the service will serve Springwell Estate replacing service 56.

95A: Kibblesworth - Team Valley Sainsburys - Low Fell - Gateshead - Team Valley North - Lobley Hill (On Sundays service extends to Metrocentre)
New service replacing the current 1A and 95 on a hourly frequency. Service 95 and 95A combined will provide a every 20 minute service between Lobley Hill and Low Fell.

56: No longer serving Springwell Estate.

Kind Regards
Tez

S830OFT

1,395

16 Jun 2018, 10:44 pm #344

35: Durham - High Pittington - Low Moorsley - Hetton Le Hole - Hetton Downs - Houghton - Herrington Burn - East Herrington - Silksworth - The Barnes - Royal Hospital - Sunderland Interchange - Fulwell The Grange - Cleadon - Harton Nook - South Shields.
This service is extended from Low Moorsley to Durham, allowing service 265 to serve Rainton. It will no longer operate to Boldon, instead operate to Shields allowing the withdrawal of the 20 services. This service will not run past Low Moorsley for journeys to Durham on Evenings and Sundays.

35A: Durham - Belmont - West Rainton - East Rainton - Hall Lane - Houghton - A690 - East Herrington - The Barnes - Sunderland - Fulwell The Grange - Cleadon - Harton Nook - South Shields.
This is the prime service to Durham, it will operate 7 days a week under a 30 minute frequency. It will pretty much operate directly to the 20 service, apart from serving the Royal Hospital.

X35: Durham - Belmont - Rainton Bridge - Houghton - A690 - East Herrington - The Barnes - Sunderland - Roker - Seaburn - Whitburn - Coastal Route - Gypsys Green and Pier Head - South Shields.
This new express service will not serve Rainton and will operate the same as the current peak X20. However, instead of serving Cleadon and Harton alike services 35/35A it will take the coastal route to Shields operating along the coast.

Service 35/35A/X35 combined will continue the Every 10 minute frequency between Durham and South Shields.

36: Chester Le Street - Great Lumley - Fence Houses - Houghton - Herrington Burn - East Herrington - Silksworth - Tunstall Bank - Esdale Estate - Hollycarside - Leechmere Asda - Ashbrooke - Sunderland - Southwick - Castletown.
This service is revised to operate hourly, it will replace service 38 between Tunstall and Sunderland.

X36: Chester Le Street - Great Lumley - Fence Houses - Rainton Bridge - Houghton - A690 - East Herrington - The Barnes - Sunderland - Enterprise Park - Castletown - Hylton Castle - Town End Farm - Boldon - Heworth.
This new express service will replace the North side section of the current 35 under a hourly frequency.

56B: Sunderland - Southwick - North Hylton Road - Castletown - Hylton Castle - Town End Farm - Downhill - Boldon Cinema - Boldon Asda - Downhill - Red House - Witherwack - Fulwell The Grange - Sunderland.

56C: Opposite direction but will operate clockwise around Boldon, it will serve the Cinema prior to serving Asda.

56B/56C will both operate hourly.

65: Durham - Belmont - West Rainton - East Rainton - Houghton Road - Hetton Le Hole - Murton - Dalton Park - Seaham. Rerouted via Rainton instead of Moorsley.

Frequencys:
35: Mon - Sat (Every 30 minutes) Sun/Evenings* (Hourly)
35A: Mon - Sat (Every 30 minutes) Sun/Evenings (Every 30 minutes)
X35: Mon - Sat (Every 30 minutes) Sun/Evenings (No Service)
36: Mon - Sat (Hourly) Sun/Evenings (Hourly)
X36: Mon - Sat (Hourly) Sun/Evenings (No Service)
56B/C: Mon - Sat (Hourly) Sun/Evenings (Hourly)
65: Mon - Sat (Hourly) Sun/Eve (No Service)

*Journeys to Durham terminate at Low Moorsley, passengers should use service 35A.

Evening and Sunday journeys on 36 group of services:
Service 36/56B/C will operate, however NexusBus 135/136 additionally run.

Services 35A/X35/X36 will operate up the A690, Services 35 and 36 will serve Herrington Burn.

Services 36 and X36 combine to provide a Every 30 minute frequency between Houghton and Chester Le Street.

Low Moorsley will have:
2 buses an hour to Durham. Opposed to the current 1
Rainton will have:
3 buses an hour to Durham opposed to the current 6.
Houghton will have:
6 buses an hour to Durham...
Harton and Cleadon will have:
4 buses an hour to Shields and Sunderland opposed to the current 6.

Edited 17 Jun 2018, 8:24 am by S830OFT.

S830OFT

16 Jun 2018, 10:44 pm #344

FrankT1993

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18 Jun 2018, 1:01 pm #345

(16 Jun 2018, 8:58 am)Michael 64 and 95 to merge, because tbh, they're the most pointless routes Go North East have.

Sorry, I don't agree. For me it's a big difference if I take 64 or 95. I undertand that you don't use those lines on a daily basis, that's why you make this suggestion.

Frank

FrankT1993

18 Jun 2018, 1:01 pm #345

(16 Jun 2018, 8:58 am)Michael 64 and 95 to merge, because tbh, they're the most pointless routes Go North East have.

Sorry, I don't agree. For me it's a big difference if I take 64 or 95. I undertand that you don't use those lines on a daily basis, that's why you make this suggestion.

Frank

BusLoverMum

5,285

18 Jun 2018, 2:08 pm #346

(18 Jun 2018, 1:01 pm)FrankT1993 Sorry, I don't agree. For me it's a big difference if I take 64 or 95. I undertand that you don't use those lines on a daily basis, that's why you make this suggestion.

Frank

I think this is a problem with a lot of suggestions in these threads. It would make little difference to me if the Gne 59 was scrapped, for example, as I have plenty of other options, including walking to the Arnison centre or centre of Durham, but people in Quarrington Hill would lose their only Sunday service.

BusLoverMum

18 Jun 2018, 2:08 pm #346

(18 Jun 2018, 1:01 pm)FrankT1993 Sorry, I don't agree. For me it's a big difference if I take 64 or 95. I undertand that you don't use those lines on a daily basis, that's why you make this suggestion.

Frank

Jamie M

Unregistered

18 Jun 2018, 5:31 pm #347

X10:
Newcastle - Gateshead - Heworth - Darlton Park - Peterlee - Norton - Stockton - Middlesbrough - (by jetpack) Scarborough

Every 60 minutes mon-sun.

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Jamie M

18 Jun 2018, 5:31 pm #347

X10:
Newcastle - Gateshead - Heworth - Darlton Park - Peterlee - Norton - Stockton - Middlesbrough - (by jetpack) Scarborough

Every 60 minutes mon-sun.

Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk

S830OFT

1,395

18 Jun 2018, 5:32 pm #348

(18 Jun 2018, 5:31 pm)Jamie M X10:
Newcastle - Gateshead - Heworth - Darlton Park - Peterlee - Norton - Stockton - Middlesbrough - (by jetpack) Scarborough

Every 60 minutes mon-sun.

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A better option would be to introduce a Coach service.

S830OFT

18 Jun 2018, 5:32 pm #348

(18 Jun 2018, 5:31 pm)Jamie M X10:
Newcastle - Gateshead - Heworth - Darlton Park - Peterlee - Norton - Stockton - Middlesbrough - (by jetpack) Scarborough

Every 60 minutes mon-sun.

Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk

A better option would be to introduce a Coach service.

citaro5284

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18 Jun 2018, 5:39 pm #349

(18 Jun 2018, 5:31 pm)Jamie M X10:
Newcastle - Gateshead - Heworth - Darlton Park - Peterlee - Norton - Stockton - Middlesbrough - (by jetpack) Scarborough

Every 60 minutes mon-sun.

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It would need to go through Lambton thou! Big Grin

citaro5284

18 Jun 2018, 5:39 pm #349

(18 Jun 2018, 5:31 pm)Jamie M X10:
Newcastle - Gateshead - Heworth - Darlton Park - Peterlee - Norton - Stockton - Middlesbrough - (by jetpack) Scarborough

Every 60 minutes mon-sun.

Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk

It would need to go through Lambton thou! Big Grin

Jamie M

Unregistered

18 Jun 2018, 5:43 pm #350

(18 Jun 2018, 5:39 pm)citaro5284 It would need to go through Lambton thou!

That is a very good point, how silly of me to forget!

Jamie M

18 Jun 2018, 5:43 pm #350

(18 Jun 2018, 5:39 pm)citaro5284 It would need to go through Lambton thou!

That is a very good point, how silly of me to forget!

JP6004

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18 Jun 2018, 6:15 pm #351

(18 Jun 2018, 5:31 pm)Jamie M X10:
Newcastle - Gatesuhead - Heworth - Darlton Park - Peterlee - Norton - Stockton - Middlesbrough - (by jetpack) Scarborough

Every 60 minutes mon-sun.

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Id have it go to Whitby nstead of Scarborough. Deffo be quicker than train and push Arrivas nose out of joint Tongue

Edited 18 Jun 2018, 6:17 pm by JP6004.

JP6004

18 Jun 2018, 6:15 pm #351

(18 Jun 2018, 5:31 pm)Jamie M X10:
Newcastle - Gatesuhead - Heworth - Darlton Park - Peterlee - Norton - Stockton - Middlesbrough - (by jetpack) Scarborough

Every 60 minutes mon-sun.

Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk

Id have it go to Whitby nstead of Scarborough. Deffo be quicker than train and push Arrivas nose out of joint Tongue

Malarkey

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18 Jun 2018, 6:15 pm #352

(18 Jun 2018, 5:39 pm)citaro5284 It would need to go through Lambton thou!

Cheeky Bugger Tongue

Malarkey

18 Jun 2018, 6:15 pm #352

(18 Jun 2018, 5:39 pm)citaro5284 It would need to go through Lambton thou!

Cheeky Bugger Tongue

Malarkey

6,064

18 Jun 2018, 6:56 pm #353

Newcastle - Gateshead - Stockton - Middlesbrough - Whitby
Newcastle - Gateshead - Stockton - Middlesbrough - Whitby - Scarborough
Newcastle - Gateshead - Stockton - Middlesbrough - Whitby - Scarborough - Filey - Bridlington
Newcastle - Gateshead - Stockton - Middlesbrough - Thirsk - York - Market Weighton - Hull
Newcastle - Middlesbrough - Thirsk - Easingwold - York
Newcastle - Middlesbrough - Thirsk - Ripon - Harrogate - Leeds
Newcastle - Middlesbrough - Leeds - Hull
Sunderland - Peterlee - Middlesbrough - Whitby
Sunderland - Peterlee - Middlesbrough - Whitby - Scarborough
Sunderland - Peterlee - Middlesbrough - Whitby - Scarborough - Filey - Bridlington
Sunderland - Peterlee - Middlesbrough - Thirsk - York - Pocklington - Market Weighton - Hull
Sunderland - Middlesbrough - Thirsk - Easingwold - York
Sunderland - Middlesbrough - Thirsk - Ripon - Harrogate - Leeds
Sunderland - Middlesbrough - Leeds - Hull

I haven't came up with a service number series or frequencies for the above suggestion, I do think it would be we wise for Go North East/EYMS to integrate NatEX services and expand them into these routes to make them more viable, alternatively they could adopt a Day Trip style operation again to make services viable.

Malarkey

18 Jun 2018, 6:56 pm #353

V514DFT

2,251

18 Jun 2018, 9:38 pm #354

(18 Jun 2018, 6:56 pm)Malarkey Newcastle - Gateshead - Stockton - Middlesbrough - Whitby
Newcastle - Gateshead - Stockton - Middlesbrough - Whitby - Scarborough
Newcastle - Gateshead - Stockton - Middlesbrough - Whitby - Scarborough - Filey - Bridlington
Newcastle - Gateshead - Stockton - Middlesbrough - Thirsk - York - Market Weighton - Hull
Newcastle - Middlesbrough - Thirsk - Easingwold - York
Newcastle - Middlesbrough - Thirsk - Ripon - Harrogate - Leeds
Newcastle - Middlesbrough - Leeds - Hull
Sunderland - Peterlee - Middlesbrough - Whitby
Sunderland - Peterlee - Middlesbrough - Whitby - Scarborough
Sunderland - Peterlee - Middlesbrough - Whitby - Scarborough - Filey - Bridlington
Sunderland - Peterlee - Middlesbrough - Thirsk - York - Pocklington - Market Weighton - Hull
Sunderland - Middlesbrough - Thirsk - Easingwold - York
Sunderland - Middlesbrough - Thirsk - Ripon - Harrogate - Leeds
Sunderland - Middlesbrough - Leeds - Hull

I haven't came up with a service number series or frequencies for the above suggestion, I do think it would be we wise for Go North East/EYMS to integrate NatEX services and expand them into these routes to make them more viable, alternatively they could adopt a Day Trip style operation again to make services viable.

May i suggest something in the 500's

Kind Regards
Tez

V514DFT

18 Jun 2018, 9:38 pm #354

(18 Jun 2018, 6:56 pm)Malarkey Newcastle - Gateshead - Stockton - Middlesbrough - Whitby
Newcastle - Gateshead - Stockton - Middlesbrough - Whitby - Scarborough
Newcastle - Gateshead - Stockton - Middlesbrough - Whitby - Scarborough - Filey - Bridlington
Newcastle - Gateshead - Stockton - Middlesbrough - Thirsk - York - Market Weighton - Hull
Newcastle - Middlesbrough - Thirsk - Easingwold - York
Newcastle - Middlesbrough - Thirsk - Ripon - Harrogate - Leeds
Newcastle - Middlesbrough - Leeds - Hull
Sunderland - Peterlee - Middlesbrough - Whitby
Sunderland - Peterlee - Middlesbrough - Whitby - Scarborough
Sunderland - Peterlee - Middlesbrough - Whitby - Scarborough - Filey - Bridlington
Sunderland - Peterlee - Middlesbrough - Thirsk - York - Pocklington - Market Weighton - Hull
Sunderland - Middlesbrough - Thirsk - Easingwold - York
Sunderland - Middlesbrough - Thirsk - Ripon - Harrogate - Leeds
Sunderland - Middlesbrough - Leeds - Hull

I haven't came up with a service number series or frequencies for the above suggestion, I do think it would be we wise for Go North East/EYMS to integrate NatEX services and expand them into these routes to make them more viable, alternatively they could adopt a Day Trip style operation again to make services viable.

May i suggest something in the 500's

Kind Regards
Tez

RM2186

171

19 Jun 2018, 2:34 pm #355

(18 Jun 2018, 6:56 pm)Malarkey Newcastle - Gateshead - Stockton - Middlesbrough - Whitby
Newcastle - Gateshead - Stockton - Middlesbrough - Whitby - Scarborough
Newcastle - Gateshead - Stockton - Middlesbrough - Whitby - Scarborough - Filey - Bridlington
Newcastle - Gateshead - Stockton - Middlesbrough - Thirsk - York - Market Weighton - Hull
Newcastle - Middlesbrough - Thirsk - Easingwold - York
Newcastle - Middlesbrough - Thirsk - Ripon - Harrogate - Leeds
Newcastle - Middlesbrough - Leeds - Hull
Sunderland - Peterlee - Middlesbrough - Whitby
Sunderland - Peterlee - Middlesbrough - Whitby - Scarborough
Sunderland - Peterlee - Middlesbrough - Whitby - Scarborough - Filey - Bridlington
Sunderland - Peterlee - Middlesbrough - Thirsk - York - Pocklington - Market Weighton - Hull
Sunderland - Middlesbrough - Thirsk - Easingwold - York
Sunderland - Middlesbrough - Thirsk - Ripon - Harrogate - Leeds
Sunderland - Middlesbrough - Leeds - Hull

I haven't came up with a service number series or frequencies for the above suggestion, I do think it would be we wise for Go North East/EYMS to integrate NatEX services and expand them into these routes to make them more viable, alternatively they could adopt a Day Trip style operation again to make services viable.

(18 Jun 2018, 9:38 pm)V514DFT May i suggest something in the 500's

Could maybe route the Newcastle routes through Washington Galleries too, just a thought

RM2186

19 Jun 2018, 2:34 pm #355

(18 Jun 2018, 6:56 pm)Malarkey Newcastle - Gateshead - Stockton - Middlesbrough - Whitby
Newcastle - Gateshead - Stockton - Middlesbrough - Whitby - Scarborough
Newcastle - Gateshead - Stockton - Middlesbrough - Whitby - Scarborough - Filey - Bridlington
Newcastle - Gateshead - Stockton - Middlesbrough - Thirsk - York - Market Weighton - Hull
Newcastle - Middlesbrough - Thirsk - Easingwold - York
Newcastle - Middlesbrough - Thirsk - Ripon - Harrogate - Leeds
Newcastle - Middlesbrough - Leeds - Hull
Sunderland - Peterlee - Middlesbrough - Whitby
Sunderland - Peterlee - Middlesbrough - Whitby - Scarborough
Sunderland - Peterlee - Middlesbrough - Whitby - Scarborough - Filey - Bridlington
Sunderland - Peterlee - Middlesbrough - Thirsk - York - Pocklington - Market Weighton - Hull
Sunderland - Middlesbrough - Thirsk - Easingwold - York
Sunderland - Middlesbrough - Thirsk - Ripon - Harrogate - Leeds
Sunderland - Middlesbrough - Leeds - Hull

I haven't came up with a service number series or frequencies for the above suggestion, I do think it would be we wise for Go North East/EYMS to integrate NatEX services and expand them into these routes to make them more viable, alternatively they could adopt a Day Trip style operation again to make services viable.

(18 Jun 2018, 9:38 pm)V514DFT May i suggest something in the 500's

Could maybe route the Newcastle routes through Washington Galleries too, just a thought

Dan

Site Administrator

18,125

19 Jun 2018, 2:55 pm #356

(18 Jun 2018, 6:56 pm)Malarkey Newcastle - Gateshead - Stockton - Middlesbrough - Whitby
Newcastle - Gateshead - Stockton - Middlesbrough - Whitby - Scarborough
Newcastle - Gateshead - Stockton - Middlesbrough - Whitby - Scarborough - Filey - Bridlington
Newcastle - Gateshead - Stockton - Middlesbrough - Thirsk - York - Market Weighton - Hull
Newcastle - Middlesbrough - Thirsk - Easingwold - York
Newcastle - Middlesbrough - Thirsk - Ripon - Harrogate - Leeds
Newcastle - Middlesbrough - Leeds - Hull
Sunderland - Peterlee - Middlesbrough - Whitby
Sunderland - Peterlee - Middlesbrough - Whitby - Scarborough
Sunderland - Peterlee - Middlesbrough - Whitby - Scarborough - Filey - Bridlington
Sunderland - Peterlee - Middlesbrough - Thirsk - York - Pocklington - Market Weighton - Hull
Sunderland - Middlesbrough - Thirsk - Easingwold - York
Sunderland - Middlesbrough - Thirsk - Ripon - Harrogate - Leeds
Sunderland - Middlesbrough - Leeds - Hull

I haven't came up with a service number series or frequencies for the above suggestion, I do think it would be we wise for Go North East/EYMS to integrate NatEX services and expand them into these routes to make them more viable, alternatively they could adopt a Day Trip style operation again to make services viable.

I don't think there's much point in duplicating corridors which already have plenty of coach services. Between National Express and Megabus, they've got most of these corridors carved up already.

However, I do think a competitive express service with Arriva between Middlesbrough and Scarborough and/or Leeds and Hull would do well, as there'd be traffic at either end (X9/X10 into Middlesbrough, various EYMS services in Scarbs and Hull.

Dan

19 Jun 2018, 2:55 pm #356

(18 Jun 2018, 6:56 pm)Malarkey Newcastle - Gateshead - Stockton - Middlesbrough - Whitby
Newcastle - Gateshead - Stockton - Middlesbrough - Whitby - Scarborough
Newcastle - Gateshead - Stockton - Middlesbrough - Whitby - Scarborough - Filey - Bridlington
Newcastle - Gateshead - Stockton - Middlesbrough - Thirsk - York - Market Weighton - Hull
Newcastle - Middlesbrough - Thirsk - Easingwold - York
Newcastle - Middlesbrough - Thirsk - Ripon - Harrogate - Leeds
Newcastle - Middlesbrough - Leeds - Hull
Sunderland - Peterlee - Middlesbrough - Whitby
Sunderland - Peterlee - Middlesbrough - Whitby - Scarborough
Sunderland - Peterlee - Middlesbrough - Whitby - Scarborough - Filey - Bridlington
Sunderland - Peterlee - Middlesbrough - Thirsk - York - Pocklington - Market Weighton - Hull
Sunderland - Middlesbrough - Thirsk - Easingwold - York
Sunderland - Middlesbrough - Thirsk - Ripon - Harrogate - Leeds
Sunderland - Middlesbrough - Leeds - Hull

I haven't came up with a service number series or frequencies for the above suggestion, I do think it would be we wise for Go North East/EYMS to integrate NatEX services and expand them into these routes to make them more viable, alternatively they could adopt a Day Trip style operation again to make services viable.

S830OFT

1,395

19 Jun 2018, 4:04 pm #357

(19 Jun 2018, 2:55 pm)Dan I don't think there's much point in duplicating corridors which already have plenty of coach services. Between National Express and Megabus, they've got most of these corridors carved up already.

However, I do think a competitive express service with Arriva between Middlesbrough and Scarborough and/or Leeds and Hull would do well, as there'd be traffic at either end (X9/X10 into Middlesbrough, various EYMS services in Scarbs and Hull.

Also reduce the line of passengers for X93 as it is extremely busy in the summer.

S830OFT

19 Jun 2018, 4:04 pm #357

(19 Jun 2018, 2:55 pm)Dan I don't think there's much point in duplicating corridors which already have plenty of coach services. Between National Express and Megabus, they've got most of these corridors carved up already.

However, I do think a competitive express service with Arriva between Middlesbrough and Scarborough and/or Leeds and Hull would do well, as there'd be traffic at either end (X9/X10 into Middlesbrough, various EYMS services in Scarbs and Hull.

Also reduce the line of passengers for X93 as it is extremely busy in the summer.

Andreos1

14,240

19 Jun 2018, 6:33 pm #358

I think the Whitby/Scarborough - Teesside corridor is pretty much boxed off now the X4 and X93 appear sorted.
Not sure there is enough demand all year round or enough interest to offer any competition.

My initial thoughts on connecting the two operating areas revolved around connecting the X9/10 with the 45 series and EYMS other service around York (is it 18 to McArthur Glen?).

Operated by Pocklington depot, it would be York - Middlesbrough via A59, Knaresbrough, A1/A168, Thirsk, Northallerton and Stokesley - or A19 to A66 (haven't quite decided).

It would call at all local stops to Knaresbrough, then express/non-stop to Thirsk, limited stop beyond there to Middlesbrough calling at key calling points/timing points only.

Through tickets would be available and whilst there may not be massive numbers on a York - Middlesbrough service, through passengers would supplement local travel. Obviously it would also connect the two operating areas.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'

Andreos1

19 Jun 2018, 6:33 pm #358

'Illegitimis non carborundum'

callum2015

19 Jun 2018, 9:46 pm #359

(19 Jun 2018, 6:33 pm)Andreos1 I think the Whitby/Scarborough - Teesside corridor is pretty much boxed off now the X4 and X93 appear sorted.
Not sure there is enough demand all year round or enough interest to offer any competition.

My initial thoughts on connecting the two operating areas revolved around connecting the X9/10 with the 45 series and EYMS other service around York (is it 18 to McArthur Glen?).

Operated by Pocklington depot, it would be York - Middlesbrough via A59, Knaresbrough, A1/A168, Thirsk, Northallerton and Stokesley - or A19 to A66 (haven't quite decided).

It would call at all local stops to Knaresbrough, then express/non-stop to Thirsk, limited stop beyond there to Middlesbrough calling at key calling points/timing points only.

Through tickets would be available and whilst there may not be massive numbers on a York - Middlesbrough service, through passengers would supplement local travel. Obviously it would also connect the two operating areas.

Extending the current 128 service might be an option - extending from its current terminus of Helmsley along the A170 Into Thirsk,then either run direct via A19/Via Northallerton or Via Stokesley into Middlesbrough. Run from Scarborough depot with maybe 1 or 2 buses outstationed at Peterlee to allow earlier journeys from Middlesbrough

callum2015

19 Jun 2018, 9:46 pm #359

(19 Jun 2018, 6:33 pm)Andreos1 I think the Whitby/Scarborough - Teesside corridor is pretty much boxed off now the X4 and X93 appear sorted.
Not sure there is enough demand all year round or enough interest to offer any competition.

My initial thoughts on connecting the two operating areas revolved around connecting the X9/10 with the 45 series and EYMS other service around York (is it 18 to McArthur Glen?).

Operated by Pocklington depot, it would be York - Middlesbrough via A59, Knaresbrough, A1/A168, Thirsk, Northallerton and Stokesley - or A19 to A66 (haven't quite decided).

It would call at all local stops to Knaresbrough, then express/non-stop to Thirsk, limited stop beyond there to Middlesbrough calling at key calling points/timing points only.

Through tickets would be available and whilst there may not be massive numbers on a York - Middlesbrough service, through passengers would supplement local travel. Obviously it would also connect the two operating areas.

S830OFT

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19 Jun 2018, 9:51 pm #360

(19 Jun 2018, 9:46 pm)callum2015 Extending the current 128 service might be an option - extending from its current terminus of Helmsley along the A170 Into Thirsk,then either run direct via A19/Via Northallerton or Via Stokesley into Middlesbrough. Run from Scarborough depot with maybe 1 or 2 buses outstationed at Peterlee to allow earlier journeys from Middlesbrough

Could North East Coach Travel sell their depot as sister company Stephensons ceased trading.

S830OFT

19 Jun 2018, 9:51 pm #360

(19 Jun 2018, 9:46 pm)callum2015 Extending the current 128 service might be an option - extending from its current terminus of Helmsley along the A170 Into Thirsk,then either run direct via A19/Via Northallerton or Via Stokesley into Middlesbrough. Run from Scarborough depot with maybe 1 or 2 buses outstationed at Peterlee to allow earlier journeys from Middlesbrough

Could North East Coach Travel sell their depot as sister company Stephensons ceased trading.

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