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Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - February 2020

 
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22 Feb 2020, 10:08 pm
(13 Feb 2020, 9:40 pm)stagecoachbusdepot In the consultation, Gateshead was just near the Tyne Bridge when they were proposing the crazy bridge tolls, and North Tyneside was just so far along the Coast Road - both of which have been dropped.  Not sure if they have been replaced with new hairbrained schemes, but suspect not.

(13 Feb 2020, 10:34 pm)S830OFT They can't use them on 6/7 as those buses run on the 8 into Newcastle...
They could swap them with the new E200MMCs on Teesside if it comes desperate to get Euro 6 buses...
Why would stagecoach teeside swap the 69 plates for old buses it wont make sense and plus there only 6 month old

Apparently on bus times stagecoach teeside 26280 has returned apparently it done 1 stop on 36 3days ago is this true ?
Lottie332
22 Feb 2020, 10:08 pm #101

(13 Feb 2020, 9:40 pm)stagecoachbusdepot In the consultation, Gateshead was just near the Tyne Bridge when they were proposing the crazy bridge tolls, and North Tyneside was just so far along the Coast Road - both of which have been dropped.  Not sure if they have been replaced with new hairbrained schemes, but suspect not.

(13 Feb 2020, 10:34 pm)S830OFT They can't use them on 6/7 as those buses run on the 8 into Newcastle...
They could swap them with the new E200MMCs on Teesside if it comes desperate to get Euro 6 buses...
Why would stagecoach teeside swap the 69 plates for old buses it wont make sense and plus there only 6 month old

Apparently on bus times stagecoach teeside 26280 has returned apparently it done 1 stop on 36 3days ago is this true ?

705
22 Feb 2020, 10:33 pm
Is 26280 back in service on teesside again
glen
22 Feb 2020, 10:33 pm #102

Is 26280 back in service on teesside again

705
22 Feb 2020, 11:49 pm
I don't think stagecoach on teesside will swap there new 69 plates for old ones buses I don't think.
glen
22 Feb 2020, 11:49 pm #103

I don't think stagecoach on teesside will swap there new 69 plates for old ones buses I don't think.

2281
23 Feb 2020, 2:23 am
A numberplate on a bus means nothing to bus companies, anything can happen, eg, GNE swapped 16 plates for 10/11/61 plates on the 40/41/42/42A

Kind Regards
Tez
V514DFT
23 Feb 2020, 2:23 am #104

A numberplate on a bus means nothing to bus companies, anything can happen, eg, GNE swapped 16 plates for 10/11/61 plates on the 40/41/42/42A


Kind Regards
Tez

Dan
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23 Feb 2020, 7:04 am
(23 Feb 2020, 2:23 am)V514DFT A numberplate on a bus means nothing to bus companies, anything can happen, eg, GNE swapped 16 plates for 10/11/61 plates on the 40/41/42/42A


I don’t think this is a particularly common thing!

With the introduction of Xlines, seven high specification Solo were required to operate the X6/X7 and X20 services. Naturally they had to come from one batch of indiGo services, be it Peterlee, Washington or North Tyneside, and the one already operating with a mixed Solo fleet (four older examples without the enhanced spec) was the North Tyneside group. Doing this also enabled fleet standardisation, with all of the two types of Solo (minus 697) grouped together.

That said I do think Stagecoach will keep the Teesside E200MMCs in the back of their mind. Their preference will be to obtain council funding to retrofit buses with SCRTs though.


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Dan
23 Feb 2020, 7:04 am #105

(23 Feb 2020, 2:23 am)V514DFT A numberplate on a bus means nothing to bus companies, anything can happen, eg, GNE swapped 16 plates for 10/11/61 plates on the 40/41/42/42A


I don’t think this is a particularly common thing!

With the introduction of Xlines, seven high specification Solo were required to operate the X6/X7 and X20 services. Naturally they had to come from one batch of indiGo services, be it Peterlee, Washington or North Tyneside, and the one already operating with a mixed Solo fleet (four older examples without the enhanced spec) was the North Tyneside group. Doing this also enabled fleet standardisation, with all of the two types of Solo (minus 697) grouped together.

That said I do think Stagecoach will keep the Teesside E200MMCs in the back of their mind. Their preference will be to obtain council funding to retrofit buses with SCRTs though.


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705
23 Feb 2020, 11:21 am
Thanks for info mate
glen
23 Feb 2020, 11:21 am #106

Thanks for info mate

652
23 Feb 2020, 11:48 am
Tees Flex App now live on App Store. Stockton & Darlington zone covers a vast area and allows both town centres, rail stations and Teesside Park as a destination. North Tees and Airport currently out of bounds so assume this needs fixing? Redcar and Cleveland zone similarly useful and a generous drop-off zone in Redcar. App theoretically allowed me to book a journey between Redcar and Guisborough which I thought wouldn’t be allowed. Hartlepool zone is very restrictive and most of the rural area covered has no population. Can’t help but think a single minibus an a timetabled circuit of Elwick, Dalton Piercy and Hartlepool would be more worthwhile. Interesting that Tees Flex can be used to travel from Hart to the Hospital and town centre, which is already covered by Arriva in the 57, yet the zoning is very careful not to tread on the toes of any existing Stagecoach service.
James101
23 Feb 2020, 11:48 am #107

Tees Flex App now live on App Store. Stockton & Darlington zone covers a vast area and allows both town centres, rail stations and Teesside Park as a destination. North Tees and Airport currently out of bounds so assume this needs fixing? Redcar and Cleveland zone similarly useful and a generous drop-off zone in Redcar. App theoretically allowed me to book a journey between Redcar and Guisborough which I thought wouldn’t be allowed. Hartlepool zone is very restrictive and most of the rural area covered has no population. Can’t help but think a single minibus an a timetabled circuit of Elwick, Dalton Piercy and Hartlepool would be more worthwhile. Interesting that Tees Flex can be used to travel from Hart to the Hospital and town centre, which is already covered by Arriva in the 57, yet the zoning is very careful not to tread on the toes of any existing Stagecoach service.

14269
23 Feb 2020, 12:35 pm
(23 Feb 2020, 11:48 am)James101 Tees Flex App now live on App Store. Stockton & Darlington zone covers a vast area and allows both town centres, rail stations and Teesside Park as a destination. North Tees and Airport currently out of bounds so assume this needs fixing? Redcar and Cleveland zone similarly useful and a generous drop-off zone in Redcar. App theoretically allowed me to book a journey between Redcar and Guisborough which I thought wouldn’t be allowed. Hartlepool zone is very restrictive and most of the rural area covered has no population. Can’t help but think a single minibus an a timetabled circuit of Elwick, Dalton Piercy and Hartlepool would be more worthwhile. Interesting that Tees Flex can be used to travel from Hart to the Hospital and town centre, which is already covered by Arriva in the 57, yet the zoning is very careful not to tread on the toes of any existing Stagecoach service.

Disappointed with the R&C zoning system and seeing places like New Marske, Marske, Saltburn and Upleatham not included in the zones. Yet Redcar, Guisborough, Skelton are - despite having decent levels of ANE services currently.
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Looking further in to this. https://www.stagecoachbus.com/media-libr....jpg?la=en states you can get a bus from the zone, to a destination beyond the zone. Skelton to Saltburn Station as an example.

However, the app doesn't let allow the booking to be made.
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'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
23 Feb 2020, 12:35 pm #108

(23 Feb 2020, 11:48 am)James101 Tees Flex App now live on App Store. Stockton & Darlington zone covers a vast area and allows both town centres, rail stations and Teesside Park as a destination. North Tees and Airport currently out of bounds so assume this needs fixing? Redcar and Cleveland zone similarly useful and a generous drop-off zone in Redcar. App theoretically allowed me to book a journey between Redcar and Guisborough which I thought wouldn’t be allowed. Hartlepool zone is very restrictive and most of the rural area covered has no population. Can’t help but think a single minibus an a timetabled circuit of Elwick, Dalton Piercy and Hartlepool would be more worthwhile. Interesting that Tees Flex can be used to travel from Hart to the Hospital and town centre, which is already covered by Arriva in the 57, yet the zoning is very careful not to tread on the toes of any existing Stagecoach service.

Disappointed with the R&C zoning system and seeing places like New Marske, Marske, Saltburn and Upleatham not included in the zones. Yet Redcar, Guisborough, Skelton are - despite having decent levels of ANE services currently.
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Looking further in to this. https://www.stagecoachbus.com/media-libr....jpg?la=en states you can get a bus from the zone, to a destination beyond the zone. Skelton to Saltburn Station as an example.

However, the app doesn't let allow the booking to be made.
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'Illegitimis non carborundum'

6857
23 Feb 2020, 3:37 pm
(23 Feb 2020, 12:35 pm)Andreos1 Disappointed with the R&C zoning system and seeing places like New Marske, Marske, Saltburn and Upleatham not included in the zones. Yet Redcar, Guisborough, Skelton are - despite having decent levels of ANE services currently.



Looking further in to this. https://www.stagecoachbus.com/media-libr....jpg?la=en states you can get a bus from the zone, to a destination beyond the zone. Skelton to Saltburn Station as an example.

However, the app doesn't let allow the booking to be made.

How it works is as followed:
You can book a journey from a spot within a zone to one of the ‘secondary’ destinations - which in the case of Redcar and Cleveland Zone is Redcar, Skelton and Guisborough. But it needs to be booked as a return journey as you can’t book a journey from a secondary destination to a destination within the Zone.
Kuyoyo
23 Feb 2020, 3:37 pm #109

(23 Feb 2020, 12:35 pm)Andreos1 Disappointed with the R&C zoning system and seeing places like New Marske, Marske, Saltburn and Upleatham not included in the zones. Yet Redcar, Guisborough, Skelton are - despite having decent levels of ANE services currently.



Looking further in to this. https://www.stagecoachbus.com/media-libr....jpg?la=en states you can get a bus from the zone, to a destination beyond the zone. Skelton to Saltburn Station as an example.

However, the app doesn't let allow the booking to be made.

How it works is as followed:
You can book a journey from a spot within a zone to one of the ‘secondary’ destinations - which in the case of Redcar and Cleveland Zone is Redcar, Skelton and Guisborough. But it needs to be booked as a return journey as you can’t book a journey from a secondary destination to a destination within the Zone.

1395
23 Feb 2020, 3:45 pm
Is Tees Flex going to operate as a 24/7 service or between 9 and 5 for example?


S830OFT
23 Feb 2020, 3:45 pm #110

Is Tees Flex going to operate as a 24/7 service or between 9 and 5 for example?



6857
23 Feb 2020, 3:57 pm
(23 Feb 2020, 3:45 pm)S830OFT Is Tees Flex going to operate as a 24/7 service or between 9 and 5 for example?

0700 to 2000 Monday to Saturday
9 vehicles out - understand from the driver who attended the Information Drop-In in Stillington on Thursday that the plan is to have 3 vehicles in each zone at the start of the day and move them round depending on which zone has the greater demand I.e. if Stockton and Darlington is busier than Hartlepool, then one of the drivers in the Hartlepool zone will be diverted to help.
Kuyoyo
23 Feb 2020, 3:57 pm #111

(23 Feb 2020, 3:45 pm)S830OFT Is Tees Flex going to operate as a 24/7 service or between 9 and 5 for example?

0700 to 2000 Monday to Saturday
9 vehicles out - understand from the driver who attended the Information Drop-In in Stillington on Thursday that the plan is to have 3 vehicles in each zone at the start of the day and move them round depending on which zone has the greater demand I.e. if Stockton and Darlington is busier than Hartlepool, then one of the drivers in the Hartlepool zone will be diverted to help.

1395
23 Feb 2020, 10:33 pm
Has 34605 been withdrawn as it hasn't been out for a while?


S830OFT
23 Feb 2020, 10:33 pm #112

Has 34605 been withdrawn as it hasn't been out for a while?



Robin57
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24 Feb 2020, 2:51 pm
S830OFT. DO YOU HAVE ANY PHOTO OF 26280 in Teesside since it came back to service. Robin
Robin57
24 Feb 2020, 2:51 pm #113

S830OFT. DO YOU HAVE ANY PHOTO OF 26280 in Teesside since it came back to service. Robin

6857
24 Feb 2020, 3:44 pm
Tees Flex has indeed started today - albeit not the best day to start (what with the snow)

So far, the majority of the Sprinters are showing on Bus Times apart from 44032/6/7.

As such, the following have been showing in the following Zones:
T1 (Redcar & Cleveland): 44035
T2 (Hartlepool): 44017, 44033 (based out of Hartlepool depot)
T3 (Stockton and Darlington): 44005, 44031, 44034
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44006 has been showing up as spare for Hartlepool zone, 44015 showing as in Stockton depot as spare
Kuyoyo
24 Feb 2020, 3:44 pm #114

Tees Flex has indeed started today - albeit not the best day to start (what with the snow)

So far, the majority of the Sprinters are showing on Bus Times apart from 44032/6/7.

As such, the following have been showing in the following Zones:
T1 (Redcar & Cleveland): 44035
T2 (Hartlepool): 44017, 44033 (based out of Hartlepool depot)
T3 (Stockton and Darlington): 44005, 44031, 44034

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44006 has been showing up as spare for Hartlepool zone, 44015 showing as in Stockton depot as spare

14269
24 Feb 2020, 5:07 pm
(23 Feb 2020, 3:37 pm)Kuyoyo How it works is as followed:
You can book a journey from a spot within a zone to one of the ‘secondary’ destinations - which in the case of Redcar and Cleveland Zone is Redcar, Skelton and Guisborough. But it needs to be booked as a return journey as you can’t book a journey from a secondary destination to a destination within the Zone.

Except the app doesn't appear to give an option of a return journey. 
At least not until the point of confirming an order. 
As the example I used yesterday wouldn't let me confirm the order, then I'm not sure where the option would be to book a return.

On the link I shared yesterday, it has both Redcar and Saltburn Station as possible destinations. 
Redcar Station is available to select on the map. Saltburn isn't.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
24 Feb 2020, 5:07 pm #115

(23 Feb 2020, 3:37 pm)Kuyoyo How it works is as followed:
You can book a journey from a spot within a zone to one of the ‘secondary’ destinations - which in the case of Redcar and Cleveland Zone is Redcar, Skelton and Guisborough. But it needs to be booked as a return journey as you can’t book a journey from a secondary destination to a destination within the Zone.

Except the app doesn't appear to give an option of a return journey. 
At least not until the point of confirming an order. 
As the example I used yesterday wouldn't let me confirm the order, then I'm not sure where the option would be to book a return.

On the link I shared yesterday, it has both Redcar and Saltburn Station as possible destinations. 
Redcar Station is available to select on the map. Saltburn isn't.


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

6857
24 Feb 2020, 5:16 pm
(24 Feb 2020, 5:07 pm)Andreos1 Except the app doesn't appear to give an option of a return journey. 
At least not until the point of confirming an order. 
As the example I used yesterday wouldn't let me confirm the order, then I'm not sure where the option would be to book a return.

Understand there's some glitches with the app as launched - they somewhat appear to have been amended today (although Billingham isn't showing as a destination despite the Railway Station supposedly being one (not the Town Centre oddly).
The app wouldn't allow for booking yesterday as it hadn't launched yet - you can book now but the journey you were attempting to book won't be possibly anyway as Saltburn isn't available to be a destination.
Kuyoyo
24 Feb 2020, 5:16 pm #116

(24 Feb 2020, 5:07 pm)Andreos1 Except the app doesn't appear to give an option of a return journey. 
At least not until the point of confirming an order. 
As the example I used yesterday wouldn't let me confirm the order, then I'm not sure where the option would be to book a return.

Understand there's some glitches with the app as launched - they somewhat appear to have been amended today (although Billingham isn't showing as a destination despite the Railway Station supposedly being one (not the Town Centre oddly).
The app wouldn't allow for booking yesterday as it hadn't launched yet - you can book now but the journey you were attempting to book won't be possibly anyway as Saltburn isn't available to be a destination.

14269
24 Feb 2020, 5:43 pm
(24 Feb 2020, 5:16 pm)Kuyoyo Understand there's some glitches with the app as launched - they somewhat appear to have been amended today (although Billingham isn't showing as a destination despite the Railway Station supposedly being one (not the Town Centre oddly).
The app wouldn't allow for booking yesterday as it hadn't launched yet - you can book now but the journey you were attempting to book won't be possibly anyway as Saltburn isn't available to be a destination.

Saltburn Station is according to this link (https://www.stagecoachbus.com/media-libr....jpg?la=en)

I've been playing about with the app today and whilst the apparent wait time for a vehicle doesn't seem too bad, there's certainly glitches - which I would have expected to have been ironed out by launch.
There's been enough time to get things like that sorted.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
24 Feb 2020, 5:43 pm #117

(24 Feb 2020, 5:16 pm)Kuyoyo Understand there's some glitches with the app as launched - they somewhat appear to have been amended today (although Billingham isn't showing as a destination despite the Railway Station supposedly being one (not the Town Centre oddly).
The app wouldn't allow for booking yesterday as it hadn't launched yet - you can book now but the journey you were attempting to book won't be possibly anyway as Saltburn isn't available to be a destination.

Saltburn Station is according to this link (https://www.stagecoachbus.com/media-libr....jpg?la=en)

I've been playing about with the app today and whilst the apparent wait time for a vehicle doesn't seem too bad, there's certainly glitches - which I would have expected to have been ironed out by launch.
There's been enough time to get things like that sorted.


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

24 Feb 2020, 5:50 pm
39723 is now at Sunderland and has been on the 4s today. According to Bus Times 36961 is at Slatyford and on the 32s
Dans_bus_photos
24 Feb 2020, 5:50 pm #118

39723 is now at Sunderland and has been on the 4s today. According to Bus Times 36961 is at Slatyford and on the 32s

24 Feb 2020, 6:48 pm
(24 Feb 2020, 5:50 pm)Dans_bus_photos 39723 is now at Sunderland and has been on the 4s today. According to Bus Times 36961 is at Slatyford and on the 32s

Will be more swaps happening with Nexus contract requirement changes in  Newcastle.


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RBZ 5459
24 Feb 2020, 6:48 pm #119

(24 Feb 2020, 5:50 pm)Dans_bus_photos 39723 is now at Sunderland and has been on the 4s today. According to Bus Times 36961 is at Slatyford and on the 32s

Will be more swaps happening with Nexus contract requirement changes in  Newcastle.



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24 Feb 2020, 7:24 pm
(24 Feb 2020, 6:48 pm)RBZ 5459 Will be more swaps happening with Nexus contract requirement changes in  Newcastle.

Im assuming thats to do with the 18 and 32 now being partially being funded by Nexus? Lets hope Sunderland are in line for some new vehicles in the new financial year then to replace all these MAN E200s they are getting lumbered with.
Dans_bus_photos
24 Feb 2020, 7:24 pm #120

(24 Feb 2020, 6:48 pm)RBZ 5459 Will be more swaps happening with Nexus contract requirement changes in  Newcastle.

Im assuming thats to do with the 18 and 32 now being partially being funded by Nexus? Lets hope Sunderland are in line for some new vehicles in the new financial year then to replace all these MAN E200s they are getting lumbered with.

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