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Michael



19,168
04 May 2020, 8:57 pm #1,321
(04 May 2020, 8:52 pm)Adrian Perhaps! I actually found the EVM to be ideal for the 689, when I tried that out a couple of month ago.

I don't know about the 39, but those Washington services could certainly get away with using an EVM most evenings. I just cannot see operators being willing to heavily invest in them, when the only reward is a 1 year contract. Then there's the added problem of what do they do the rest of the time.  


I'd hope Nexus would have considered that in their acceptance of an economically advantageous bid. In Washington for example, the day and week tickets are priced at £3.60 and £15.00 respectively. The multi-operator alternative to that would be £7.80* a day or £20.10 a week - or a 34% - 116% price increase, if you look at it that way!

* Day Rover as there is no zonal multi operator version of a day ticket.

They won't care about what it costs other people, like it was said, they went for the lowest bidder and thats it....

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
04 May 2020, 8:57 pm #1,321

(04 May 2020, 8:52 pm)Adrian Perhaps! I actually found the EVM to be ideal for the 689, when I tried that out a couple of month ago.

I don't know about the 39, but those Washington services could certainly get away with using an EVM most evenings. I just cannot see operators being willing to heavily invest in them, when the only reward is a 1 year contract. Then there's the added problem of what do they do the rest of the time.  


I'd hope Nexus would have considered that in their acceptance of an economically advantageous bid. In Washington for example, the day and week tickets are priced at £3.60 and £15.00 respectively. The multi-operator alternative to that would be £7.80* a day or £20.10 a week - or a 34% - 116% price increase, if you look at it that way!

* Day Rover as there is no zonal multi operator version of a day ticket.

They won't care about what it costs other people, like it was said, they went for the lowest bidder and thats it....


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

park5354



406
05 May 2020, 12:22 am #1,322
(04 May 2020, 8:40 pm)James101 Return of the minibus revolution? Whatever you think of them those Fiats and Stratas must bus a damn sight cheaper to operate. Hopefully integrated ticketing can be arranged or passenger numbers could decline to a point where it’s not worth securing the service.
Might be cheaper to operate, but they are spoken for in North Tyneside (when CToG get 11/19/41 back) and Blaydon, with one already operating service 8 to South Hylton.

Probably be solos off 37/73 & 515/558.
park5354
05 May 2020, 12:22 am #1,322

(04 May 2020, 8:40 pm)James101 Return of the minibus revolution? Whatever you think of them those Fiats and Stratas must bus a damn sight cheaper to operate. Hopefully integrated ticketing can be arranged or passenger numbers could decline to a point where it’s not worth securing the service.
Might be cheaper to operate, but they are spoken for in North Tyneside (when CToG get 11/19/41 back) and Blaydon, with one already operating service 8 to South Hylton.

Probably be solos off 37/73 & 515/558.

Michael



19,168
05 May 2020, 11:48 am #1,323
Are these contract changes still going ahead on the 17th May? - just we're in middle of a crisis and it might confuse a few people!


Also will these contracted buses provide stop announcements?, as i thought these were part of the contracts now?


(05 May 2020, 12:22 am)park5354 Might be cheaper to operate, but they are spoken for in North Tyneside (when CToG get 11/19/41 back) and Blaydon, with one already operating service 8 to South Hylton.

Probably be solos off 37/73 & 515/558.

Those Solo's aren't bad
Edited 05 May 2020, 11:52 am by Michael.

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Michael
05 May 2020, 11:48 am #1,323

Are these contract changes still going ahead on the 17th May? - just we're in middle of a crisis and it might confuse a few people!


Also will these contracted buses provide stop announcements?, as i thought these were part of the contracts now?


(05 May 2020, 12:22 am)park5354 Might be cheaper to operate, but they are spoken for in North Tyneside (when CToG get 11/19/41 back) and Blaydon, with one already operating service 8 to South Hylton.

Probably be solos off 37/73 & 515/558.

Those Solo's aren't bad


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Ambassador



1,855
06 May 2020, 4:18 pm #1,324
Doesn't really offer any encouragement for people to switch to the bus does it (not that these routes are that attractive)

No intra ticket accepment.
Sitting in the back of a glorified van with no legroom.
Cash only.

It's a late 1980s resurgence...

Wistfully stuck in the 90s
Ambassador
06 May 2020, 4:18 pm #1,324

Doesn't really offer any encouragement for people to switch to the bus does it (not that these routes are that attractive)

No intra ticket accepment.
Sitting in the back of a glorified van with no legroom.
Cash only.

It's a late 1980s resurgence...


Wistfully stuck in the 90s

Michael



19,168
08 May 2020, 9:29 am #1,325
(06 May 2020, 4:18 pm)Ambassador Doesn't really offer any encouragement for people to switch to the bus does it (not that these routes are that attractive)

No intra ticket accepment.
Sitting in the back of a glorified van with no legroom.
Cash only.

It's a late 1980s resurgence...


Exactly, look at the 135/136 routes, yes they're only running them on an evening and Sunday - but i wonder how many people will have to pay for their journeys now? (more on a Sunday, than Mon-Fri nights)

The likes of the 81-86 - need to be Euro 5 with 36 seats


I don't even think the 39/135/136 we're on that list - but i would imagine they'll be the same - they're going from a Streetlite with all the perks to a bus with none of those features... i wonder how many people will be put off, if they can't use a GNE pass/smartzone pass, and not having the perks of WIFI etc? (although most don't care, but i would be interested to see the stats on that)

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
08 May 2020, 9:29 am #1,325

(06 May 2020, 4:18 pm)Ambassador Doesn't really offer any encouragement for people to switch to the bus does it (not that these routes are that attractive)

No intra ticket accepment.
Sitting in the back of a glorified van with no legroom.
Cash only.

It's a late 1980s resurgence...


Exactly, look at the 135/136 routes, yes they're only running them on an evening and Sunday - but i wonder how many people will have to pay for their journeys now? (more on a Sunday, than Mon-Fri nights)

The likes of the 81-86 - need to be Euro 5 with 36 seats


I don't even think the 39/135/136 we're on that list - but i would imagine they'll be the same - they're going from a Streetlite with all the perks to a bus with none of those features... i wonder how many people will be put off, if they can't use a GNE pass/smartzone pass, and not having the perks of WIFI etc? (although most don't care, but i would be interested to see the stats on that)


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

park5354



406
08 May 2020, 5:54 pm #1,326
(08 May 2020, 9:29 am)Michael Exactly, look at the 135/136 routes, yes they're only running them on an evening and Sunday - but i wonder how many people will have to pay for their journeys now? (more on a Sunday, than Mon-Fri nights)

The likes of the 81-86 - need to be Euro 5 with 36 seats


I don't even think the 39/135/136 we're on that list - but i would imagine they'll be the same - they're going from a Streetlite with all the perks to a bus with none of those features... i wonder how many people will be put off, if they can't use a GNE pass/smartzone pass, and not having the perks of WIFI etc? (although most don't care, but i would be interested to see the stats on that)
NOT 36 seats, but capacity of 36 (Seats + standing).

the 168 is capacity 23.
park5354
08 May 2020, 5:54 pm #1,326

(08 May 2020, 9:29 am)Michael Exactly, look at the 135/136 routes, yes they're only running them on an evening and Sunday - but i wonder how many people will have to pay for their journeys now? (more on a Sunday, than Mon-Fri nights)

The likes of the 81-86 - need to be Euro 5 with 36 seats


I don't even think the 39/135/136 we're on that list - but i would imagine they'll be the same - they're going from a Streetlite with all the perks to a bus with none of those features... i wonder how many people will be put off, if they can't use a GNE pass/smartzone pass, and not having the perks of WIFI etc? (although most don't care, but i would be interested to see the stats on that)
NOT 36 seats, but capacity of 36 (Seats + standing).

the 168 is capacity 23.

V514DFT



2,241
08 May 2020, 6:04 pm #1,327
Quick question, are the ticket machines used on GCT's buses contactless or money only,cus i need to get up to Benton Asda on Wednesday and the 335 will be my best option

Kind Regards
Tez
V514DFT
08 May 2020, 6:04 pm #1,327

Quick question, are the ticket machines used on GCT's buses contactless or money only,cus i need to get up to Benton Asda on Wednesday and the 335 will be my best option


Kind Regards
Tez

08 May 2020, 6:22 pm #1,328
(08 May 2020, 6:04 pm)V514DFT Quick question, are the ticket machines used on GCT's buses contactless or money only,cus i need to get up to Benton Asda on Wednesday and the 335 will be my best option

Cash only unfortunately.
OrangeArrow49
08 May 2020, 6:22 pm #1,328

(08 May 2020, 6:04 pm)V514DFT Quick question, are the ticket machines used on GCT's buses contactless or money only,cus i need to get up to Benton Asda on Wednesday and the 335 will be my best option

Cash only unfortunately.

V514DFT



2,241
09 May 2020, 9:35 pm #1,329
Just aswell i have some on me,but will steralise it

Kind Regards
Tez
V514DFT
09 May 2020, 9:35 pm #1,329

Just aswell i have some on me,but will steralise it


Kind Regards
Tez

V514DFT



2,241
13 May 2020, 3:27 pm #1,330
So i can make a comment about the 335 now
Lovely,the driver was polite and jolly (given the situation)
Bus was lovely,bit bouncy but i put that down to the bus being pretty much brand new, it was a pleasant experience

Kind Regards
Tez
V514DFT
13 May 2020, 3:27 pm #1,330

So i can make a comment about the 335 now
Lovely,the driver was polite and jolly (given the situation)
Bus was lovely,bit bouncy but i put that down to the bus being pretty much brand new, it was a pleasant experience


Kind Regards
Tez

tyresmoke



5,318
13 May 2020, 7:22 pm #1,331
I've updated the fleetlist for Gateshead Central.... not 100% on the double deck fleet so if anyone could confirm those I would be very grateful. Understand they're all parked up now!
For anyone wanting a quick ticklist for your photos (I've got so much to catch up on!) there is currently 21 Fiat's, 4 Merc's, 7 Solo's, 8 E200's and 3 Streetlite's

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tyresmoke
13 May 2020, 7:22 pm #1,331

I've updated the fleetlist for Gateshead Central.... not 100% on the double deck fleet so if anyone could confirm those I would be very grateful. Understand they're all parked up now!
For anyone wanting a quick ticklist for your photos (I've got so much to catch up on!) there is currently 21 Fiat's, 4 Merc's, 7 Solo's, 8 E200's and 3 Streetlite's


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18,117
17 May 2020, 7:27 pm #1,332
(17 May 2020, 10:53 am)Michael Ahtl right cheers

Shame GNE don't want to the 39/135/136 on a commercial bases... they could even change them to fit in with their own network.


Does anyone know what Gateshead Central Taxi's are using on the 135/136 and the 39 later.



Not sure on the 39, but the evening Washington local services have been operated by the new ADL Enviro 200s (those journeys that have actually run; reports on Facebook of the first journey of the evening from Birtley not serving Barley Mow and of the second journey having not shown at all!)

The 135/136 were both 64-plate Solos earlier. On the journeys I observed, the 135 was around five minutes late and the 136 was around five minutes early (also way over the 30mph speed limit on Timber Beach Road!)


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Dan
17 May 2020, 7:27 pm #1,332

(17 May 2020, 10:53 am)Michael Ahtl right cheers

Shame GNE don't want to the 39/135/136 on a commercial bases... they could even change them to fit in with their own network.


Does anyone know what Gateshead Central Taxi's are using on the 135/136 and the 39 later.



Not sure on the 39, but the evening Washington local services have been operated by the new ADL Enviro 200s (those journeys that have actually run; reports on Facebook of the first journey of the evening from Birtley not serving Barley Mow and of the second journey having not shown at all!)

The 135/136 were both 64-plate Solos earlier. On the journeys I observed, the 135 was around five minutes late and the 136 was around five minutes early (also way over the 30mph speed limit on Timber Beach Road!)


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Adrian



9,583
17 May 2020, 7:38 pm #1,333
I notice the 81/82/83/84 timetable on the Nexus website lists the first GCT #83 departures from the Galleries towards Concord at 20.50 Mon-Fri, Sat and Sun.
Concord towards the Galleries starts at 19.42.

According to the timetable, the last GNE #83 from the Galleries to Concord leaves at 19.40 Mon-Fri & Sat, so that is probably correct, but on a Sunday it is 17.40.
Similarly, the last GNE #83 leaves Concord towards the Galleries at 16.32.

Is there supposed to be a 3 hour gap in service on a Sunday evening? I should note that a 19.50 #83 did depart from the Galleries this evening!

https://www.nexus.org.uk/sites/default/f...0520_1.pdf

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Adrian
17 May 2020, 7:38 pm #1,333

I notice the 81/82/83/84 timetable on the Nexus website lists the first GCT #83 departures from the Galleries towards Concord at 20.50 Mon-Fri, Sat and Sun.
Concord towards the Galleries starts at 19.42.

According to the timetable, the last GNE #83 from the Galleries to Concord leaves at 19.40 Mon-Fri & Sat, so that is probably correct, but on a Sunday it is 17.40.
Similarly, the last GNE #83 leaves Concord towards the Galleries at 16.32.

Is there supposed to be a 3 hour gap in service on a Sunday evening? I should note that a 19.50 #83 did depart from the Galleries this evening!

https://www.nexus.org.uk/sites/default/f...0520_1.pdf


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Ray



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17 May 2020, 7:53 pm #1,334
Hi, not sure if it been noted but GCT are now operating the 42/42A, looks to be their first day on them. Seen two of their Streetlites operating the 42A while out on a walk earlier on.

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Ray
17 May 2020, 7:53 pm #1,334

Hi, not sure if it been noted but GCT are now operating the 42/42A, looks to be their first day on them. Seen two of their Streetlites operating the 42A while out on a walk earlier on.


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9,583
17 May 2020, 8:06 pm #1,335
81/82/83/84/85/86 are operating with E200MMCs this evening.

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Adrian
17 May 2020, 8:06 pm #1,335

81/82/83/84/85/86 are operating with E200MMCs this evening.

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pbjd



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17 May 2020, 8:28 pm #1,336
(17 May 2020, 7:27 pm)Dan Not sure on the 39, but the evening Washington local services have been operated by the new ADL Enviro 200s (those journeys that have actually run; reports on Facebook of the first journey of the evening from Birtley not serving Barley Mow and of the second journey having not shown at all!)

The 135/136 were both 64-plate Solos earlier. On the journeys I observed, the 135 was around five minutes late and the 136 was around five minutes early (also way over the 30mph speed limit on Timber Beach Road!)


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North Tyneside routes reported running wrong route, and in the case of the 11&19 with breadvans.
pbjd
17 May 2020, 8:28 pm #1,336

(17 May 2020, 7:27 pm)Dan Not sure on the 39, but the evening Washington local services have been operated by the new ADL Enviro 200s (those journeys that have actually run; reports on Facebook of the first journey of the evening from Birtley not serving Barley Mow and of the second journey having not shown at all!)

The 135/136 were both 64-plate Solos earlier. On the journeys I observed, the 135 was around five minutes late and the 136 was around five minutes early (also way over the 30mph speed limit on Timber Beach Road!)


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk


North Tyneside routes reported running wrong route, and in the case of the 11&19 with breadvans.

Tom



6,138
17 May 2020, 10:13 pm #1,337
(17 May 2020, 8:28 pm)pbjd North Tyneside routes reported running wrong route, and in the case of the 11&19 with breadvans.

I seen the 41 operating the incorrect route! Seems like terrible service so far.
Tom
17 May 2020, 10:13 pm #1,337

(17 May 2020, 8:28 pm)pbjd North Tyneside routes reported running wrong route, and in the case of the 11&19 with breadvans.

I seen the 41 operating the incorrect route! Seems like terrible service so far.

N1cholas



243
17 May 2020, 10:33 pm #1,338
Must say the E200MMCs look smart in those colours
N1cholas
17 May 2020, 10:33 pm #1,338

Must say the E200MMCs look smart in those colours

Jimmi



10,970
17 May 2020, 11:59 pm #1,339
(17 May 2020, 7:38 pm)Adrian I notice the 81/82/83/84 timetable on the Nexus website lists the first GCT #83 departures from the Galleries towards Concord at 20.50 Mon-Fri, Sat and Sun.
Concord towards the Galleries starts at 19.42.

According to the timetable, the last GNE #83 from the Galleries to Concord leaves at 19.40 Mon-Fri & Sat, so that is probably correct, but on a Sunday it is 17.40.
Similarly, the last GNE #83 leaves Concord towards the Galleries at 16.32.

Is there supposed to be a 3 hour gap in service on a Sunday evening? I should note that a 19.50 #83 did depart from the Galleries this evening!

https://www.nexus.org.uk/sites/default/f...0520_1.pdf

I'm guessing the large gap on service 83 on Sundays is caused by temporary timetables from Go North East because of COVID-19?

I've checked BusTimes website and they do indicate that there is a 19.50 departure from the Galleries on Sunday evenings on service 83: https://bustimes.org/services/83-washing...2020-05-24
Jimmi
17 May 2020, 11:59 pm #1,339

(17 May 2020, 7:38 pm)Adrian I notice the 81/82/83/84 timetable on the Nexus website lists the first GCT #83 departures from the Galleries towards Concord at 20.50 Mon-Fri, Sat and Sun.
Concord towards the Galleries starts at 19.42.

According to the timetable, the last GNE #83 from the Galleries to Concord leaves at 19.40 Mon-Fri & Sat, so that is probably correct, but on a Sunday it is 17.40.
Similarly, the last GNE #83 leaves Concord towards the Galleries at 16.32.

Is there supposed to be a 3 hour gap in service on a Sunday evening? I should note that a 19.50 #83 did depart from the Galleries this evening!

https://www.nexus.org.uk/sites/default/f...0520_1.pdf

I'm guessing the large gap on service 83 on Sundays is caused by temporary timetables from Go North East because of COVID-19?

I've checked BusTimes website and they do indicate that there is a 19.50 departure from the Galleries on Sunday evenings on service 83: https://bustimes.org/services/83-washing...2020-05-24

LeeCalder



1,928
18 May 2020, 8:32 am #1,340
First 82 of the evening didn't serve Barley Mow, and the second didn't run at all (or took a magical mystery tour through Birtley).

At least two 85's ran through Ayton instead of Oxclose, and the 86 was serving Waterview Park all evening.

Good start.
LeeCalder
18 May 2020, 8:32 am #1,340

First 82 of the evening didn't serve Barley Mow, and the second didn't run at all (or took a magical mystery tour through Birtley).

At least two 85's ran through Ayton instead of Oxclose, and the 86 was serving Waterview Park all evening.

Good start.

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