Go North East: Service Suggestions v2
Go North East: Service Suggestions v2
Is there any routes that could be diverted through or extended to the team Valley.
My only idea, which is still a work in progress is this: [attachment=9395]
Just a thought I had following the upcoming service changes from the 1st of June, it seems that the replacement of the 88/88a with the 9 and 26 hasn't really worked and as such I'd propose chopping and changing a few routes that are at a loose end as a result of the changes. The section of the 9 from Jarrow to Lukes Lane would be added on the 26 (essentially recreating the 88) allowing the H1/H2 hospital services to be withdrawn. Meanwhile the southern section of the 9 could be linked up with X6/7 now that they've been disconnected from the X20. Connections would be available between both services at Jarrow bus station with generous layovers to account for delays.
Service 26 - South Shields - Jarrow - Lukes Lane
Essentially service 88/88a brought back but at the present half hourly frequencies, replaces services H1/H2.
PVR 5
South Shields 54 24
Jarrow 31 01
Jarrow 35 05
Lukes Lane 59 29
Lukes Lane 00 30
Jarrow 26 56
Jarrow 30 00
South Shields 11 41
Service X6/7 - Peterlee - Sunderland - Jarrow
The X6/7 extended to Jarrow in place of service 9. If the services are permanently removed from the X-lines network then would instead be numbered the 9A/B
PVR 6 X6 X7
Peterlee 03 38
Sunderland 38 08
Sunderland 42 12
Jarrow 26 56
X7 X6
Jarrow 36 06
Sunderland 18 48
Sunderland 22 52
Peterlee 52 26
Service changes
Service 4- Extended to Metrocentre along 58 route to Gateshead and then X66 route to Metrocentre. Run by Riverside & Washington depots. Will run every 12 minutes.
Service 11- Merge with service Q3 and will run every 20 minutes. Will now start on Whitley Bay Seafront. Run by Riverside & Percy Main depots.
Allocation
Service 4 (PVR 18)- 5283-5284, 5293-5297 & 5358-5368.
Service 11 (PVR 13)- 5381-5385, 5387-5388 & 8310-8315.
Vehicle movements
691-694 to Riverside to operate services M6/M7/M8
5238 to Riverside
5367-5368 to Riverside for Connections4
5377-5380 to be repainted into corporate liverey. 5380 will transfer to Percy Main
5381-5385 & 5387-5388 to Percy Main for service 11.
5391-5394 & 5452 to be repainted for Citylink service 57
5486 to Washington
(30 May 2020, 7:26 pm)michaelb Service changes
Service 4- Extended to Metrocentre along 58 route to Gateshead and then X66 route to Metrocentre. Run by Riverside & Washington depots. Will run every 12 minutes.
Service 11- Merge with service Q3 and will run every 20 minutes. Will now start on Whitley Bay Seafront. Run by Riverside & Percy Main depots.
Allocation
Service 4 (PVR 18)- 5283-5284, 5293-5297 & 5358-5368.
Service 11 (PVR 13)- 5381-5385, 5387-5388 & 8310-8315.
Vehicle movements
691-694 to Riverside to operate services M6/M7/M8
5238 to Riverside
5367-5368 to Riverside for Connections4
5377-5380 to be repainted into corporate liverey. 5380 will transfer to Percy Main
5381-5385 & 5387-5388 to Percy Main for service 11.
5391-5394 & 5452 to be repainted for Citylink service 57
5486 to Washington
(30 May 2020, 7:26 pm)michaelb Service changes
Service 4- Extended to Metrocentre along 58 route to Gateshead and then X66 route to Metrocentre. Run by Riverside & Washington depots. Will run every 12 minutes.
Service 11- Merge with service Q3 and will run every 20 minutes. Will now start on Whitley Bay Seafront. Run by Riverside & Percy Main depots.
Allocation
Service 4 (PVR 18)- 5283-5284, 5293-5297 & 5358-5368.
Service 11 (PVR 13)- 5381-5385, 5387-5388 & 8310-8315.
Vehicle movements
691-694 to Riverside to operate services M6/M7/M8
5238 to Riverside
5367-5368 to Riverside for Connections4
5377-5380 to be repainted into corporate liverey. 5380 will transfer to Percy Main
5381-5385 & 5387-5388 to Percy Main for service 11.
5391-5394 & 5452 to be repainted for Citylink service 57
5486 to Washington
Service 5
From Jarrow, extend to Newcastle via 27 route.
NEW service 6
South Shields-Jarrow (26 route), then direct to Campbell Park Road & Lukes Lane Estate, then via Finchale Road to Hebburn. At buses continue as service 9 to Boldon & Sunderland
New service 7
Renumbered from 27.
Service 9
At Lukes Lane, buses continue (as service 6) direct to Jarrow, then via 26 route to South Shields.
Service 27
renumbered to service 7.
Services 5 & 7 operated by Riverside using ex Red Arrow B9's, branded as VFM buses.
Services 6 & 9 operated by Deptford using Crusader branded Mercedes Citaros.
Services 5 & 7 Monday to Saturday daytimes, each operate every 30 mins (combined 15 mins Newcastle-Jarrow)
Sunday daytimes 2 per hour (7), hourly (5), combined every 20 mins Newcastle - Jarrow.
Evening services each run hourly, giving a bus every 30 mins Newcastle-Jarrow.
Services 6 & 9 each run every 30 mins, except after 20:00 when they run hourly.
Services H1 & H2 would be withdrawn.
Extend 30 to Durham to Replace 13 (Sort of Old 712). Could also be merged with 31 or 32.
X7 Between Newcastle, Metrocentre, The Galleries, Lambton, Ayton, Chester-Le-Street, Pelton Fell, Blackhouse, Burnhope, Maiden Law and Lanchester (Sort of Old 752).
(05 Jun 2020, 2:24 pm)ii_Gaz 55 extended back to Hartlepool (still via Wingate and StationTown)
(05 Jun 2020, 2:24 pm)ii_Gaz 55 extended back to Hartlepool (still via Wingate and StationTown)
(05 Jun 2020, 2:24 pm)ii_Gaz 55 extended back to Hartlepool (still via Wingate and StationTown)That would be the longest journey in the world !! Honestly, the Sun -Hpool route is tedious enough without it going via even more of the back of beyond. No wonder it was scrapped .
(05 Jun 2020, 2:24 pm)ii_Gaz 55 extended back to Hartlepool (still via Wingate and StationTown)That would be the longest journey in the world !! Honestly, the Sun -Hpool route is tedious enough without it going via even more of the back of beyond. No wonder it was scrapped .
(05 Jun 2020, 5:23 pm)Economic505 That would be the longest journey in the world !! Honestly, the Sun -Hpool route is tedious enough without it going via even more of the back of beyond. No wonder it was scrapped .Tbh, they should have replaced 55 with somethingg, because a lot of people used that route. Now people have to use Arriva high prices.
(05 Jun 2020, 5:23 pm)Economic505 That would be the longest journey in the world !! Honestly, the Sun -Hpool route is tedious enough without it going via even more of the back of beyond. No wonder it was scrapped .Tbh, they should have replaced 55 with somethingg, because a lot of people used that route. Now people have to use Arriva high prices.
(06 Jun 2020, 9:52 am)ii_Gaz Tbh, they should have replaced 55 with somethingg, because a lot of people used that route. Now people have to use Arriva high prices.
(06 Jun 2020, 9:52 am)ii_Gaz Tbh, they should have replaced 55 with somethingg, because a lot of people used that route. Now people have to use Arriva high prices.
(05 Jun 2020, 5:23 pm)Economic505 That would be the longest journey in the world !! Honestly, the Sun -Hpool route is tedious enough without it going via even more of the back of beyond. No wonder it was scrapped .
(05 Jun 2020, 5:23 pm)Economic505 That would be the longest journey in the world !! Honestly, the Sun -Hpool route is tedious enough without it going via even more of the back of beyond. No wonder it was scrapped .
(06 Jun 2020, 10:39 am)cbma06 Originally the Hartlepool to Houghton section used to be the old 231 then 21A which used to carry on to Chester then Newcastle, but when Chester streamlined there services into the 21 sequences, the houghton to Hartlepool section fell into the hands of Deptford and there extended the service to Sunderland limited stop then GNE screwed the service up with all different incarnations of the service
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(06 Jun 2020, 10:39 am)cbma06 Originally the Hartlepool to Houghton section used to be the old 231 then 21A which used to carry on to Chester then Newcastle, but when Chester streamlined there services into the 21 sequences, the houghton to Hartlepool section fell into the hands of Deptford and there extended the service to Sunderland limited stop then GNE screwed the service up with all different incarnations of the service
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(06 Jun 2020, 10:39 am)cbma06 Originally the Hartlepool to Houghton section used to be the old 231 then 21A which used to carry on to Chester then Newcastle, but when Chester streamlined there services into the 21 sequences, the houghton to Hartlepool section fell into the hands of Deptford and there extended the service to Sunderland limited stop then GNE screwed the service up with all different incarnations of the serviceBack in the mid 1980, the 230 also existed, which was operated by Northern General and United. I guess the 23 is the successor service to the 230. During the Arriva train strikes, I had to use the 23, or a combo of the 22 and 24. Thank the train god that the trains returned!
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(06 Jun 2020, 10:39 am)cbma06 Originally the Hartlepool to Houghton section used to be the old 231 then 21A which used to carry on to Chester then Newcastle, but when Chester streamlined there services into the 21 sequences, the houghton to Hartlepool section fell into the hands of Deptford and there extended the service to Sunderland limited stop then GNE screwed the service up with all different incarnations of the serviceBack in the mid 1980, the 230 also existed, which was operated by Northern General and United. I guess the 23 is the successor service to the 230. During the Arriva train strikes, I had to use the 23, or a combo of the 22 and 24. Thank the train god that the trains returned!
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(06 Jun 2020, 12:50 pm)Economic505 Back in the mid 1980, the 230 also existed, which was operated by Northern General and United. I guess the 23 is the successor service to the 230. During the Arriva train strikes, I had to use the 23, or a combo of the 22 and 24. Thank the train god that the trains returned!
(06 Jun 2020, 12:50 pm)Economic505 Back in the mid 1980, the 230 also existed, which was operated by Northern General and United. I guess the 23 is the successor service to the 230. During the Arriva train strikes, I had to use the 23, or a combo of the 22 and 24. Thank the train god that the trains returned!
(06 Jun 2020, 1:11 pm)cbma06 Yea the 230/231 were both jointly operated by northern and United, later the 230 went to United/Arriva and the 231 went to Northern
I wouldn’t be surprised if in the next few years that since northern pulled out of Hartlepool that Arriva reducing the 23 to hourly or withdrawal the 23 and force passengers to change at Peterlee bus station between the 22 and 24, does anyone know what the loading are like on the 23 and does the Hartlepool section still needs a 15 minute freq between the 23 and 24?
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(06 Jun 2020, 1:11 pm)cbma06 Yea the 230/231 were both jointly operated by northern and United, later the 230 went to United/Arriva and the 231 went to Northern
I wouldn’t be surprised if in the next few years that since northern pulled out of Hartlepool that Arriva reducing the 23 to hourly or withdrawal the 23 and force passengers to change at Peterlee bus station between the 22 and 24, does anyone know what the loading are like on the 23 and does the Hartlepool section still needs a 15 minute freq between the 23 and 24?
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(06 Jun 2020, 3:22 pm)2bagstew I feel Arriva will use the fact that Northern have pulled out to reduce the section between Peterlee and Hartlepool to half hourly in the near future.
Off peak the 23 is lightly used on this section, more than often the 23 & 24 land together at the Peterlee bus station.
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(06 Jun 2020, 3:22 pm)2bagstew I feel Arriva will use the fact that Northern have pulled out to reduce the section between Peterlee and Hartlepool to half hourly in the near future.
Off peak the 23 is lightly used on this section, more than often the 23 & 24 land together at the Peterlee bus station.
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