(30 Dec 2013, 11:07 am)Michael wrote Was just wondering, since changes haven't being posted i was just wondering if anyone knew anything about these.
It does seem logic that the 29 could replace the 38 and 238 could replace the 38A - or other way around.
I think both will need bigger buses,
238 - it could get a frequency increase, how ever it does seem likely, Not sure if it will go every 30 mins or 20 mins.
265 - How are the MPD's coping on their?, i haven't seen it since it last changed.
That's my guesses anyway - Changes need to posted soon because tbh it's got some big change in the area's, to me posting the changes on the 6th January is to late... They should post them today....
If this was the Angel and it had changes for the 26.1.14 - changes would of being posted last week...
Edit:
Iv'e ask them on their FB when changes will be out... i said, is it gonna be a few before changes happen or the week before the whole network changes?
(30 Dec 2013, 2:05 pm)fozzovmurton wrote Also what is wrong with the LCD Display on 8306, saw it at the Toll Bar earlier flashing like a pervert in a trenchcoat...Seems to have had that problem for ages
(30 Dec 2013, 10:24 am)CatsFast101 wrote I've heard although don't take anything for gospel, that the X7 will be getting Solars later this year but not in January as we all hoped. Also, I was speaking to a employe of Deptford and they reckon management say the MPD's at Peterlee have 4 years service in them yet! Can't see some of those buses lasting that long!
(30 Dec 2013, 11:08 pm)Ely1992 wrote Abit off topic, just wondering, what were the original reasons the Citaros were taken off the Citylink service, Was it because they thought the bendis would suit the route better, with a bigger capicity, despite the fact the route has downgraded on size.
Now being Versas, do these vehicles have a larger capicity than the Citaros that were originally on the route (are these the ones on the diamond now?)
Personally i prefered that livery, over the orange on the versas.
(30 Dec 2013, 11:08 pm)Ely1992 wrote Abit off topic, just wondering, what were the original reasons the Citaros were taken off the Citylink service, Was it because they thought the bendis would suit the route better, with a bigger capicity, despite the fact the route has downgraded on size.
Now being Versas, do these vehicles have a larger capicity than the Citaros that were originally on the route (are these the ones on the diamond now?)
Personally i prefered that livery, over the orange on the versas.
(30 Dec 2013, 11:14 pm)northtynelinks2 wrote Yes, those Citaros are indeed the ones on the Diamond.
Personally, im not too sure but I think it had something to do with the capacity at peak times, they trialled a bendy and decided that it was the best option so they got some. I think those artics were worn down though off the London life, hence why they were so unreliable, if they had been purchased new, it would still use them now.
However, also going back a bit, why did they trial a Versa on the Diamond if Go North East say that the route wont get new veichles for a while yet.
(31 Dec 2013, 11:36 am)CatsFast101 wrote No ones 'pulled my leg' so to speak at all, I've heard this from a depot manager. And with regards to the fab 57, unlikely to receive citaros yes. But ToonLink with better vehicles than cityLink?
(31 Dec 2013, 11:44 am)northtynelinks2 wrote I know but there still wasn't any point in trialling it on Diamond since it isn't actually going to get an upgrade for a few years get (as Go North East say).
(31 Dec 2013, 11:44 am)northtynelinks2 wrote I know but there still wasn't any point in trialling it on Diamond since it isn't actually going to get an upgrade for a few years get (as Go North East say).
(31 Dec 2013, 11:49 am)BJ10VUS wrote Yes, there is a point. The 'Diamond' services are one of GNEs more challenging routes and it is a chance for them to test the vehicles to see how they perform.
(31 Dec 2013, 11:40 am)Dan wrote Hmm, about the X7?
We've discussed in the past how you can't always trust what you hear from employees based at depots, as they aren't necessarily told things first. Members of management, such as Rob, may know a little better...
How do you know that the "Toon Link" network (or at least some of the services held within that network) aren't more profitable than "Citylink" service 58?
(31 Dec 2013, 11:53 am)CatsFast101 wrote And I'm just saying what I got told, everyone has got information wrong. A couple of months you suggested the 61 would become northern branded using cadets! It's now in SimpliCity branding using Versas! Haha! It's worth mentioning that information hasn't just come from a driver (no offence intended to the drivers) but from a senior staff member.
(31 Dec 2013, 11:53 am)CatsFast101 wrote Well maybe they may but the vehicles used in the past show the 58 has some of the best as you said earlier the Citaro is the best vehicle within the fleet. Where as ToonLink has had Arriva cast offs.
(31 Dec 2013, 11:58 am)Dan wrote Everyone has got information wrong? Or plans have changed? Completely different things, my friend.
This quote is why I'm so reluctant to give direct information out as opposed to hints (which you and a few others requested a few weeks ago), because people like you are dickish about it if things change, and you're clearly incapable of understanding and/or appreciating how things often have to change to maximise profits whilst also lowering costs where appropriate also.
Last minute decisions aren't always the best ones. A lot of factors have to be taken into consideration, including cost, and these factors are often demonstrated in the last minute plans. This is obvious with all companies, not just Go North East or indeed companies in this industry.
On a related note - those of a higher position at Crook depot are still of the opinion that "Pronto" service X21 is still in line to receive Citaro vehicles, when Rob has suggested otherwise...
Who am I gonna go with (if I want to stand a chance of being right)? Management... or depot employees?
There's a correct time for everything to be upgraded and/or invested in, and maybe in the past the "Toon Link" network has not been able to justify brand new vehicles as it now possibly can.
It's quite likely a few changes could be lined up - what if only two of the four "Toon Link" services remained within this brand and the other two were ditched?
You also have to consider the suitability of Versas as opposed to a more heavy weight vehicle which they are currently allocated.
I guess we'll never know, and I best not reveal much more... If things change, someone like you will come along and be dickish about it.... Learn to appreciate the information NEB's GNE representatives (members of management) give... You'll be able to learn a lot more, that way. If you can read into the hints, that is!
(31 Dec 2013, 12:09 pm)CatsFast101 wrote Under the same token I was given the information a few weeks back but shared it last week, plans may have changed since then, it's been rumoured that the remaining fab 56 Solars may be branded for X30/X31 or even the 29, hence why I shared some information. Plans may have changed I for one want newer vehicles for the X7 sooner rather than later.
(31 Dec 2013, 12:09 pm)CatsFast101 wrote I just sometimes feel that you're quick to shut down anyone else information in favour of you're own when no one really knows information is of more regard (apart from GNE management on this forum).
(30 Dec 2013, 8:58 pm)Rob wrote I wouldn't be too sure about the X7 information. Following the arrival of the Fab Fifty Six B9TLs, all of Deptford's Solar will be reassigned to other roles, following service changes. All SPD vehicles are expected to be withdrawn from the fleet at this stage. The X7 is certainly a one to watch, an upgrade is certainly needed.
(31 Dec 2013, 11:48 am)Dan wrote Do demonstrator vehicles being tested on specific services always guarantee an upgrade on those services?
Isn't it just to get an idea of how well they'd cope on different sorts of services, in comparison to the vehicles already offered on that service?
An Enviro 400 demonstrator was trialled on service X1 a good few months ago. This service had just received investment not long before that. The X1 is a very good service for demonstration vehicles because there are different things required of the vehicles which are allocated to that service - dual carriageways, tight bends, uphill, downhill...
(31 Dec 2013, 1:07 pm)northtynelinks2 wrote Was the E400 trialled? News spread that it was only loaned to help out while one of the B9s were sent back to Wrights because it had a problem. As i said, that was just news i heard.
(31 Dec 2013, 12:51 pm)Michael wrote A reply on Facebook about the Sunderland Changes...
Michael - we made a conscious decision not to add this to the website. Bus briefings will be on buses soon and the website will be updated at the end of this week.
Wooo =D
(31 Dec 2013, 1:36 pm)CatsFast101 wrote I think they possibly haven't put changes up to not confuse people with Christmas services but changes should of been put back a week if clashing with Christmas was an issue.
(31 Dec 2013, 11:48 am)Dan wrote Do demonstrator vehicles being tested on specific services always guarantee an upgrade on those services?
Isn't it just to get an idea of how well they'd cope on different sorts of services, in comparison to the vehicles already offered on that service?
An Enviro 400 demonstrator was trialled on service X1 a good few months ago. This service had just received investment not long before that. The X1 is a very good service for demonstration vehicles because there are different things required of the vehicles which are allocated to that service - dual carriageways, tight bends, uphill, downhill...
(31 Dec 2013, 2:24 pm)palatine3833 wrote As far as I recall, the E400 was a loan to cover for a gemini or two that had to go back and have work done on them.
"There have been no changes to the vehicle allocation during the week, however, an ADL Enviro 400 demonstrator, registration mark SN61 DFK, is on loan at Washington depot and is being used on service X1. It has been allocated fleet number 9136."