X9 | X10 - Acquisition of interdeck coaches from Oxford Bus Company
X9 | X10 - Acquisition of interdeck coaches from Oxford Bus Company
(11 Jul 2020, 10:24 pm)mb134 Absolutely this. It's unlikely (though I perhaps should have made that clearer), but infrequent bus users often simply look for where they want to go, see whichever bus is first then get on that.
Over the years, the amount of times I've seen people catch an X21/2 to Ashington over the X20 because the X21/2 leaves 2-3 minutes earlier is too many to count. I've steered them the right way if I've noticed in time (if I've overhead their conversation!), but all too often I'd get off the X20 then 10 minutes later they'll get off the X21/2. (Note that this was just as frequent in pre-Sapphire days where there generally was no internal spec difference either)
(11 Jul 2020, 10:24 pm)mb134 Absolutely this. It's unlikely (though I perhaps should have made that clearer), but infrequent bus users often simply look for where they want to go, see whichever bus is first then get on that.
Over the years, the amount of times I've seen people catch an X21/2 to Ashington over the X20 because the X21/2 leaves 2-3 minutes earlier is too many to count. I've steered them the right way if I've noticed in time (if I've overhead their conversation!), but all too often I'd get off the X20 then 10 minutes later they'll get off the X21/2. (Note that this was just as frequent in pre-Sapphire days where there generally was no internal spec difference either)
(11 Jul 2020, 10:32 pm)streetdeckfan What's the price difference between the two services? I can imagine them timing the more expensive journey first to get more passenger to take that!
It's also why I hate the Durham timetable so much, even if we forget about the fact they're so confusing to understand, they don't tell you how long a journey takes. Two services could go to the same place and you'd have no clue which one would get there first! Whereas with the Nexus timetables, they have the key stops listed with the journey time underneath
(11 Jul 2020, 10:32 pm)streetdeckfan What's the price difference between the two services? I can imagine them timing the more expensive journey first to get more passenger to take that!
It's also why I hate the Durham timetable so much, even if we forget about the fact they're so confusing to understand, they don't tell you how long a journey takes. Two services could go to the same place and you'd have no clue which one would get there first! Whereas with the Nexus timetables, they have the key stops listed with the journey time underneath
How about St Thomas Street, then right onto Percy Street and normal route from there for southbound services. Likewise coming into Newcastle, along John Dobson Street, St Marys Place, then along to the Hancock Museum, left there, up to the RVI, around the block so its pointing the right way ready to leave.
People could wait in either Haymarket or Eldon Sq until the service is due in bad weather then just a short walk.
In Response to the X9/X10 moving from eldon square.
Are the coaches bigger than the old ones from the X2/X23 or even X9 a few years ago?
Were the arriva coaches ever allocated to the 685 since the bus station changed?
(13 Jul 2020, 9:46 am)ASX_Terranova In Response to the X9/X10 moving from eldon square.
Are the coaches bigger than the old ones from the X2/X23 or even X9 a few years ago?
Were the arriva coaches ever allocated to the 685 since the bus station changed?
(13 Jul 2020, 9:46 am)ASX_Terranova In Response to the X9/X10 moving from eldon square.
Are the coaches bigger than the old ones from the X2/X23 or even X9 a few years ago?
Were the arriva coaches ever allocated to the 685 since the bus station changed?
(13 Jul 2020, 12:35 pm)Dan Yes, much bigger. These are tri-axle 15m interdeck coaches.
(13 Jul 2020, 12:35 pm)Dan Yes, much bigger. These are tri-axle 15m interdeck coaches.
A significant number of passengers catching the X9 are for Peterlee so they will be left pretty much out in the cold.
What's happened to Peterlee and the X9 ? Have I missed something ?
(17 Jul 2020, 1:36 pm)scanialover What's happened to Peterlee and the X9 ? Have I missed something ?I think they're referring to the fact X9/X10 is moving out of Eldon Square, so it won't be sheltered in the winter
(17 Jul 2020, 1:36 pm)scanialover What's happened to Peterlee and the X9 ? Have I missed something ?I think they're referring to the fact X9/X10 is moving out of Eldon Square, so it won't be sheltered in the winter
Whatever happens it's going to be as hard manoeuvring one of these coaches wherever they go. Peterlee has a tight turning circle and an awkward reverse; Dalton Park I would say is tricky. Going to be interesting.
(17 Jul 2020, 1:56 pm)scanialover Whatever happens it's going to be as hard manoeuvring one of these coaches wherever they go. Peterlee has a tight turning circle and an awkward reverse; Dalton Park I would say is tricky. Going to be interesting.Rear steering, have driven the mk1 levante on NX, actually getting into Leeds coach station and for that matter getting out of Sammy's (vic drop off) is a damn site easier with a tri-axle than the normal size coaches, peterlee in my opinion will not cause any issues.
(17 Jul 2020, 1:56 pm)scanialover Whatever happens it's going to be as hard manoeuvring one of these coaches wherever they go. Peterlee has a tight turning circle and an awkward reverse; Dalton Park I would say is tricky. Going to be interesting.Rear steering, have driven the mk1 levante on NX, actually getting into Leeds coach station and for that matter getting out of Sammy's (vic drop off) is a damn site easier with a tri-axle than the normal size coaches, peterlee in my opinion will not cause any issues.
(17 Jul 2020, 3:00 pm)Stanleyone Rear steering, have driven the mk1 levante on NX, actually getting into Leeds coach station and for that matter getting out of Sammy's (vic drop off) is a damn site easier with a tri-axle than the normal size coaches, peterlee in my opinion will not cause any issues.
(17 Jul 2020, 3:00 pm)Stanleyone Rear steering, have driven the mk1 levante on NX, actually getting into Leeds coach station and for that matter getting out of Sammy's (vic drop off) is a damn site easier with a tri-axle than the normal size coaches, peterlee in my opinion will not cause any issues.
(17 Jul 2020, 3:17 pm)mb134 Most definitely. As has been stated by Dan, there should be absolutely no issue with any other section of the route in terms of the coaches.
Again for reference, the ones in Aberdeen manage the tight left turn from Union Street to Market Street without issue - I can't think of any places tighter than that on the X9/X10.
(17 Jul 2020, 3:17 pm)mb134 Most definitely. As has been stated by Dan, there should be absolutely no issue with any other section of the route in terms of the coaches.
Again for reference, the ones in Aberdeen manage the tight left turn from Union Street to Market Street without issue - I can't think of any places tighter than that on the X9/X10.
(17 Jul 2020, 4:05 pm)L469 YVK I reckon as said earlier St Mary's Place would be a good pick up point as well as Newgate Street.
(17 Jul 2020, 4:34 pm)Andreos1 Newgate St bus station would have been perfect!It pretty much is now, albeit on the opposite side of the road. That's where all buses bound for eldon square terminate and wait time.
Don't think the diners of Lau's would be too keen if it came back though!
(17 Jul 2020, 4:34 pm)Andreos1 Newgate St bus station would have been perfect!It pretty much is now, albeit on the opposite side of the road. That's where all buses bound for eldon square terminate and wait time.
Don't think the diners of Lau's would be too keen if it came back though!
Just dropping back to this thread for a moment. What is matter with the 63xx deckers that are supposed to be allocated on the X9/10? 6334/5 are regular performers, 6044 does it and 5278 was leaving Middlesbrough on an X9 a short while ago.
(22 Jul 2020, 1:42 pm)scanialover Just dropping back to this thread for a moment. What is matter with the 63xx deckers that are supposed to be allocated on the X9/10? 6334/5 are regular performers, 6044 does it and 5278 was leaving Middlesbrough on an X9 a short while ago.Looks to me as though 5278 was put on in Gateshead at 8am to replace 6312 which failed on its first trip this morning. 6334/5 are on in place of 6308/9 which are both not out today.
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(22 Jul 2020, 1:42 pm)scanialover Just dropping back to this thread for a moment. What is matter with the 63xx deckers that are supposed to be allocated on the X9/10? 6334/5 are regular performers, 6044 does it and 5278 was leaving Middlesbrough on an X9 a short while ago.Looks to me as though 5278 was put on in Gateshead at 8am to replace 6312 which failed on its first trip this morning. 6334/5 are on in place of 6308/9 which are both not out today.
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(22 Jul 2020, 2:28 pm)tyresmoke Looks to me as though 5278 was put on in Gateshead at 8am to replace 6312 which failed on its first trip this morning. 6334/5 are on in place of 6308/9 which are both not out today.Sooner they get onto the X21 the better then.....should keep one member of this forum happy
Looks like 6309 was dragged off half way through the day on Monday, which ironically only had two branded buses make it all the way through the day, when they finished up with 6312/4 out alongside 5277 5322 5498 6076 6334 and 6335.
(22 Jul 2020, 2:28 pm)tyresmoke Looks to me as though 5278 was put on in Gateshead at 8am to replace 6312 which failed on its first trip this morning. 6334/5 are on in place of 6308/9 which are both not out today.Sooner they get onto the X21 the better then.....should keep one member of this forum happy
Looks like 6309 was dragged off half way through the day on Monday, which ironically only had two branded buses make it all the way through the day, when they finished up with 6312/4 out alongside 5277 5322 5498 6076 6334 and 6335.
