I don't know about anyone else, but if I'm waiting at a stop that's used by several services, and a vehicle is already at the stop, I always wait at the back of the vehicle so I can see when my bus is arriving.

Same, that would be the sensible thing to do. Not sure if its because the bus stop flag pole where people stand is weirdly located to the front of the lay-by, near the angled section of kerb, rather than alongside the lay-by. Hard to explain. Who knows.

Same, that would be the sensible thing to do. Not sure if its because the bus stop flag pole where people stand is weirdly located to the front of the lay-by, near the angled section of kerb, rather than alongside the lay-by. Hard to explain. Who knows.

The worst one for me is Newgate Street (outside of Poundland) in Bishop. The bus stop is on a blind corner, so if there's a bus at the stop, you can't see them coming round the corner and they can't see you, so just drive straight past. I've lost count of the amount of times I've missed the X21 when there's an Arriva 6 parked up!

One upside of the stupid social distancing 'upgrades' is that the road is now blocked when a bus is stopped so it can't just go past!

The worst one for me is Newgate Street (outside of Poundland) in Bishop. The bus stop is on a blind corner, so if there's a bus at the stop, you can't see them coming round the corner and they can't see you, so just drive straight past. I've lost count of the amount of times I've missed the X21 when there's an Arriva 6 parked up!

One upside of the stupid social distancing 'upgrades' is that the road is now blocked when a bus is stopped so it can't just go past!

Foxhunters, near Whitley / Shields, is one of the worst bus stops around imo as buses need to be in the right lane to continue straight ahead. The amount of times they're already in the right lane before they're anywhere near the bus stop is annoying. It's not fun stepping in front of traffic to tell them to get over or waiting for the next bus which is hourly if it's the 57.

Billy Mill is another stupid bus stop like that but they tend to know about that one.

Foxhunters, near Whitley / Shields, is one of the worst bus stops around imo as buses need to be in the right lane to continue straight ahead. The amount of times they're already in the right lane before they're anywhere near the bus stop is annoying. It's not fun stepping in front of traffic to tell them to get over or waiting for the next bus which is hourly if it's the 57.

Billy Mill is another stupid bus stop like that but they tend to know about that one.

Milburngate in Durham can be a nuisance. It's all fine and well some suggesting it's worth standing towards the rear of the vehicle, so nowt passes - no good when they arrive together as is often the case at Milburngate. 

The stop at the bottom of John Reid Road in Shields is a nuisance for the 26.
It needs to cut across three lanes of traffic (often stationery because of the lights), to double back on itself.

Foxhunters, near Whitley / Shields, is one of the worst bus stops around imo as buses need to be in the right lane to continue straight ahead. The amount of times they're already in the right lane before they're anywhere near the bus stop is annoying. It's not fun stepping in front of traffic to tell them to get over or waiting for the next bus which is hourly if it's the 57.

Billy Mill is another stupid bus stop like that but they tend to know about that one.

I suppose it's not really an issue when drivers know about it.

I can't wait for the day when we have 'smart stops' with up digital displays that work and stop buttons so passengers don't have to stand with their arm out when it's pissing it down!

I don't know about anyone else, but if I'm waiting at a stop that's used by several services, and a vehicle is already at the stop, I always wait at the back of the vehicle so I can see when my bus is arriving.

But the pavement isn't that wide next to the stop n Newgate Street for people to wait at the rear of the X9/X10 (or other bus). 
We'll have to see how it goes no doubt.

But the pavement isn't that wide next to the stop n Newgate Street for people to wait at the rear of the X9/X10 (or other bus). 
We'll have to see how it goes no doubt.

I wonder if they'll just take the other services out of that stop if it becomes too much of an issue

I wonder if they'll just take the other services out of that stop if it becomes too much of an issue

The Q3 stops around the bend outside KFC and the 21 can use it's current stop outside wilcos, not an issue in my mind.

Milburngate in Durham can be a nuisance. It's all fine and well some suggesting it's worth standing towards the rear of the vehicle, so nowt passes - no good when they arrive together as is often the case at Milburngate. 

The stop at the bottom of John Reid Road in Shields is a nuisance for the 26.
It needs to cut across three lanes of traffic (often stationery because of the lights), to double back on itself.

Leazes road stops are even worse. At the second stop, you can't even see the 22, 24 come under the road bridge in time for them to slow down for you, unless you stand outside of the shelter.

Leazes road stops are even worse. At the second stop, you can't even see the 22, 24 come under the road bridge in time for them to slow down for you, unless you stand outside of the shelter.

Aye, theyre not the best. Very rarely used them, but I know exactly what you mean. 
Only used the stops once or twice since the works down there, but I know those older shelters were horrendous when busy. Trying to get out or signal the bus when you were towards the rear of the queue wasn't the easiest. Especially when it was hoying down with rain.

According to the Oxford-Chiltern-Bus-Page, Coaches 72-78 have now left for the NE after repaint:

As noted under the Airline heading below coaches 72-78 have now left Oxford for the North East after repainting at Hants & Dorset.

https://www.oxford-chiltern-bus-page.co....70820.html

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According to the Oxford-Chiltern-Bus-Page, Coaches 72-78 have now left for the NE after repaint:

As noted under the Airline heading below coaches 72-78 have now left Oxford for the North East after repainting at Hants & Dorset.

https://www.oxford-chiltern-bus-page.co....70820.html

Wonder what fleet numbers they'll be given once they arrive, which shouldn't be too long now

According to the Oxford-Chiltern-Bus-Page, Coaches 72-78 have now left for the NE after repaint:

As noted under the Airline heading below coaches 72-78 have now left Oxford for the North East after repainting at Hants & Dorset.

https://www.oxford-chiltern-bus-page.co....70820.html

He also asks....Has anyone seen them in their new area??

I think he is a bit quick off the starting blocks, as none are up here yet.

Wonder what fleet numbers they'll be given once they arrive, which shouldn't be too long now

Could be 7201 - 07 - as the 7 series is coach only - can't see them going down as 63**.

Could be 7201 - 07 - as the 7 series is coach only - can't see them going down as 63**.

Since they are coaches, could they not just follow on from what the last coach is currently?

He also asks....Has anyone seen them in their new area??

I think he is a bit quick off the starting blocks, as none are up here yet.

Bit premature on his behalf then

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Since they are coaches, could they not just follow on from what the last coach is currently?

Could be but i was thinking they decided to have the first of the Streetdecks as 63** instead of following on from 61** - so they might do that with the coaches.

And remember previously service coaches always had a different set of Fleet numbers to Nat Ex/Private Hire. Ie 5*** and 7*** series. Obviously can't use the 5 series any longer

And remember previously service coaches always had a different set of Fleet numbers to Nat Ex/Private Hire. Ie 5*** and 7*** series. Obviously can't use the 5 series any longer

To be fair with the introduction of the Northern Coaching unit (which is using ex-NatEx stock), it’s pretty difficult to keep the two in a separate series nowadays.


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Bit premature on his behalf then 

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Could be but i was thinking they decided to have the first of the Streetdecks as 63** instead of following on from 61** - so they might do that with the coaches.

could follow on from the ex Oxford B10BLE's  5161 - 5167.

When both E400MMCs (9077 - 2019 ZF) and (9098 - 2016 Voith) were trailled on the X9 & X10, how did they perform?

Will there be plans to move the 6 Cylinder StreetDeck around other depots with perhaps an E400MMC (most logical option would be a swap with Hexham) temporarily fulfilling the role of the X9 & X10 spare?

When both E400MMCs (9077 - 2019 ZF) and (9098 - 2016 Voith) were trailled on the X9 & X10, how did they perform?

Will there be plans to move the 6 Cylinder StreetDeck around other depots with perhaps an E400MMC (most logical option would be a swap with Hexham) temporarily fulfilling the role of the X9 & X10 spare?

I believe it was said the plan is still to have the 6 Cylinder StreetDeck move around the depots, but will be primarily allocated as a spare on the X9/X10

could follow on from the ex Oxford B10BLE's  5161 - 5167.

Dunno if you were a member of the forum at the time, but those B10's smelt lovely inside according to certain member(s).
Apparently, it was as though shake n vac had been used on them. 
I seem to remember the GNE wiki page even having comments on it about how fresh that particular batch were.

According to the Oxford-Chiltern-Bus-Page, Coaches 72-78 have now left for the NE after repaint:

As noted under the Airline heading below coaches 72-78 have now left Oxford for the North East after repainting at Hants & Dorset.

https://www.oxford-chiltern-bus-page.co....70820.html

He also asks....Has anyone seen them in their new area??

I think he is a bit quick off the starting blocks, as none are up here yet.

Has there been any sightings of them down there since being withdrawn? I would've thought someone would have photographed them, either debranded, repainted or on the move up here.

Will be interesting with the X9 & X10 moving to coaches to see whether or not it lands under the 'X-Lines' brand or part of the 'X-Lines' network and perhaps base livery but a different brand (Tyne Tees Connect, Tyne Tees Express).

Will be interesting with the X9 & X10 moving to coaches to see whether or not it lands under the 'X-Lines' brand or part of the 'X-Lines' network and perhaps base livery but a different brand (Tyne Tees Connect, Tyne Tees Express).

Already confirmed it will be

Just a thought, will the coaches be receiving private plates, some passengers may think it's a downgrade going from a 67 plate to a 15 plate.
Well, I mean I say 67 plates, they're really just re-registered 17 plates

Just a thought, will the coaches be receiving private plates, some passengers may think it's a downgrade going from a 67 plate to a 15 plate.
Well, I mean I say 67 plates, they're really just re-registered 17 plates

Passengers dont take notice of the destination screen, there's no chance they'll notice a registration plate!!!!.

Passengers dont take notice of the destination screen, there's no chance they'll notice a registration plate!!!!.

They've done it with other vehicles before to hide their age, they may well do it with these as well

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Just a thought, will the coaches be receiving private plates, some passengers may think it's a downgrade going from a 67 plate to a 15 plate.
Well, I mean I say 67 plates, they're really just re-registered 17 plates

You’re thinking like an enthusiast.
For a route that sees Crusader Citaros or whatever has 4 wheels that Riverside have spare pop up I doubt passengers will notice when they see a spanking huge coach with big comfy seats pop up.

How long before the first break down and the coaches going on other routes like the 21 / X21 or Tyne Valley 10 while the X9/10 has everyone squashed onto a citaro.