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Keeiajs

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19 Aug 2021, 4:21 pm #1,561
If repaints haven't started I don't know how many people would like this idea however I saw some old buses on Flickr and it said "Drifter 62" so I was thinking It would be nice to see like
Drifter Drifter 60 [Sunderland - Parkside] (Blue - Red Back) Streetlites

Drifter 61 [Sunderland - Murton](Green - Red Back) Mercedes
Drifter 62 [Peterlee - Sunderland] (Purple - Red Back) Solos
Drifter 65 [Seaham-Durham] (Orange - Red Back) Versa's
Keeiajs
19 Aug 2021, 4:21 pm #1,561

If repaints haven't started I don't know how many people would like this idea however I saw some old buses on Flickr and it said "Drifter 62" so I was thinking It would be nice to see like
Drifter Drifter 60 [Sunderland - Parkside] (Blue - Red Back) Streetlites

Drifter 61 [Sunderland - Murton](Green - Red Back) Mercedes
Drifter 62 [Peterlee - Sunderland] (Purple - Red Back) Solos
Drifter 65 [Seaham-Durham] (Orange - Red Back) Versa's

19 Aug 2021, 4:30 pm #1,562
61 will be Sunderland and district blue I think
ThomasBooth123
19 Aug 2021, 4:30 pm #1,562

61 will be Sunderland and district blue I think

Keeiajs

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19 Aug 2021, 5:09 pm #1,563
(19 Aug 2021, 4:30 pm)ThomasBooth123 61 will be Sunderland and district blue I think
Yeah I know it was just as a idea.
Keeiajs
19 Aug 2021, 5:09 pm #1,563

(19 Aug 2021, 4:30 pm)ThomasBooth123 61 will be Sunderland and district blue I think
Yeah I know it was just as a idea.

BusLoverMum



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19 Aug 2021, 11:13 pm #1,564
(27 Jul 2021, 6:21 pm)Storx I know what your trying to say and can't really disagree but it sounds rather expensive building bridges etc to force a hub in a place which might not work. 

Imo you'd be better off spending the money on reopening the Leamside Line which means you can have quick efficient trains taking traffic away from the roads and also trains from the ECML so you could potentially run a railway service between Durham and Newcastle with stations at Newton Hall, CLS, Birtley, Team Valley (P&R), Lobley Hill (P&R), Newcastle. Then the same at Follingsby (P&R), Washington, Penshaw (Bus to Doxford Park), Fencehouses (Bus to Rainton) and just end it there. 

With a good bus service to the railway station and decent connections ticketing and timings in Birtley you'd take much more traffic away from the roads. 

Obviously neither will happen though since there's no money for them.
Good luck getting a train station reinstated in Newton Hall, too. The Nimbys in that part of town have objected to having phone masts put in because whittled trees are apparently ugly, meaning that some residents are having to resort to satellite broadband. They can't even take advantage of the fibre broadband that is being introduced, here.
BusLoverMum
19 Aug 2021, 11:13 pm #1,564

(27 Jul 2021, 6:21 pm)Storx I know what your trying to say and can't really disagree but it sounds rather expensive building bridges etc to force a hub in a place which might not work. 

Imo you'd be better off spending the money on reopening the Leamside Line which means you can have quick efficient trains taking traffic away from the roads and also trains from the ECML so you could potentially run a railway service between Durham and Newcastle with stations at Newton Hall, CLS, Birtley, Team Valley (P&R), Lobley Hill (P&R), Newcastle. Then the same at Follingsby (P&R), Washington, Penshaw (Bus to Doxford Park), Fencehouses (Bus to Rainton) and just end it there. 

With a good bus service to the railway station and decent connections ticketing and timings in Birtley you'd take much more traffic away from the roads. 

Obviously neither will happen though since there's no money for them.
Good luck getting a train station reinstated in Newton Hall, too. The Nimbys in that part of town have objected to having phone masts put in because whittled trees are apparently ugly, meaning that some residents are having to resort to satellite broadband. They can't even take advantage of the fibre broadband that is being introduced, here.

Storx



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20 Aug 2021, 7:00 am #1,565
(19 Aug 2021, 11:13 pm)BusLoverMum Good luck getting a train station reinstated in Newton Hall, too. The Nimbys in that part of town have objected to having phone masts put in because whittled trees are apparently ugly, meaning that some residents are having to resort to satellite broadband. They can't even take advantage of the fibre broadband that is being introduced, here.

I'm not surprised mind ngl. Sure if you told them they're house prices will go up then they'll soon change there mind but no doubt they'll go down the old, 'train station brings crime to the area,' nonsense if they tried it. Meh just miss them off if they winge, their loss tbh.
Storx
20 Aug 2021, 7:00 am #1,565

(19 Aug 2021, 11:13 pm)BusLoverMum Good luck getting a train station reinstated in Newton Hall, too. The Nimbys in that part of town have objected to having phone masts put in because whittled trees are apparently ugly, meaning that some residents are having to resort to satellite broadband. They can't even take advantage of the fibre broadband that is being introduced, here.

I'm not surprised mind ngl. Sure if you told them they're house prices will go up then they'll soon change there mind but no doubt they'll go down the old, 'train station brings crime to the area,' nonsense if they tried it. Meh just miss them off if they winge, their loss tbh.

23 Aug 2021, 5:14 pm #1,566
Tweak the 8 to serve Royal Hospital, St Lukes Cross & Pallion on an evening and sunday replacing 135/136 section. Would be numbered 8B. 
Extend the 311 to Northumberland Park via Cobalt, West Allotment & Shiremoor.
Bring back the old Stanley 714 & 715.
Have some of the Gateshead bound Newcastle Services terminate at Central Station rather than Market Street.

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ASX_Terranova
23 Aug 2021, 5:14 pm #1,566

Tweak the 8 to serve Royal Hospital, St Lukes Cross & Pallion on an evening and sunday replacing 135/136 section. Would be numbered 8B. 
Extend the 311 to Northumberland Park via Cobalt, West Allotment & Shiremoor.
Bring back the old Stanley 714 & 715.
Have some of the Gateshead bound Newcastle Services terminate at Central Station rather than Market Street.


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V514DFT



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23 Aug 2021, 6:22 pm #1,567
11-renumbered 43
19-renumbered 44
41A-renumbered 40
Would mean the Little Coaster network have numbering that makes sense,thats literally all i'd change

Kind Regards
Tez
V514DFT
23 Aug 2021, 6:22 pm #1,567

11-renumbered 43
19-renumbered 44
41A-renumbered 40
Would mean the Little Coaster network have numbering that makes sense,thats literally all i'd change


Kind Regards
Tez

cbma06



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23 Aug 2021, 6:47 pm #1,568
(23 Aug 2021, 6:22 pm)V514DFT 11-renumbered 43
19-renumbered 44
41A-renumbered 40
Would mean the Little Coaster network have numbering that makes sense,thats literally all i'd change


While ya there put the Peterlee numbers into the 60’s instead of the 200’s, and rebrand the Peterlee stupid purples into little purples


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cbma06
23 Aug 2021, 6:47 pm #1,568

(23 Aug 2021, 6:22 pm)V514DFT 11-renumbered 43
19-renumbered 44
41A-renumbered 40
Would mean the Little Coaster network have numbering that makes sense,thats literally all i'd change


While ya there put the Peterlee numbers into the 60’s instead of the 200’s, and rebrand the Peterlee stupid purples into little purples


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Keeiajs

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23 Aug 2021, 7:28 pm #1,569
(23 Aug 2021, 6:47 pm)cbma06 While ya there put the Peterlee numbers into the 60’s instead of the 200’s, and rebrand the Peterlee stupid purples into little purples


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201 - 63
206 - 64
204 - 66
209 - 67
210 - 68
239 - 239 
67 - 47
69 - 48
Keeiajs
23 Aug 2021, 7:28 pm #1,569

(23 Aug 2021, 6:47 pm)cbma06 While ya there put the Peterlee numbers into the 60’s instead of the 200’s, and rebrand the Peterlee stupid purples into little purples


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201 - 63
206 - 64
204 - 66
209 - 67
210 - 68
239 - 239 
67 - 47
69 - 48

cbma06



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23 Aug 2021, 7:32 pm #1,570
(23 Aug 2021, 7:28 pm)Keeiajs 201 - 63
206 - 64
204 - 66
209 - 67
210 - 68
239 - 67 
67 - 47
69 - 48


239 will have to remain the same as it’s secured , it was a commercially service under United


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cbma06
23 Aug 2021, 7:32 pm #1,570

(23 Aug 2021, 7:28 pm)Keeiajs 201 - 63
206 - 64
204 - 66
209 - 67
210 - 68
239 - 67 
67 - 47
69 - 48


239 will have to remain the same as it’s secured , it was a commercially service under United


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Keeiajs

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23 Aug 2021, 7:37 pm #1,571
(23 Aug 2021, 7:32 pm)cbma06 239 will have to remain the same as it’s secured , it was a commercially service under United


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Keeiajs
23 Aug 2021, 7:37 pm #1,571

(23 Aug 2021, 7:32 pm)cbma06 239 will have to remain the same as it’s secured , it was a commercially service under United


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V514DFT



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23 Aug 2021, 8:14 pm #1,572
61-59
201-61
203-63
204/204A-64/64A
206-66
209-67
210-68
239- discuss about renumbering it 69
67-76
69/69B-77/77A

Kind Regards
Tez
V514DFT
23 Aug 2021, 8:14 pm #1,572

61-59
201-61
203-63
204/204A-64/64A
206-66
209-67
210-68
239- discuss about renumbering it 69
67-76
69/69B-77/77A


Kind Regards
Tez

GNE6312



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23 Aug 2021, 8:59 pm #1,573
As a trial I'd suggest extending 1 run every hour on each of the Cobalt & coasts to metrocentre, these will create a bus every hour from Blyth, whitley Bay, Hadrian Park & North Shields to Metrocentre plus a bus every 15-25 minutes from battle hill & Coast road to Metrocentre. In Newcastle the Metrocentre journeys will not serve Haymaket towards Metrocentre however will serve Haymaket towards the coast road, from Newcastle buses towards Metrocentre will from St Mary's place will turn right onto barras Bridge, merge onto the A167 towards Gateshead St barras bridge, exit onto the exit for central station exit the roundabout onto the A186, turn left onto Dean Street and operate via quaysude ,Swing Bridge & The centre link serving all stops exept barras bridge. Buses will operate the same route towards Newcastle upto barras bridge in reverse serving all stops again before going straight at barras bridge into Haymaket then normal route from there.
GNE6312
23 Aug 2021, 8:59 pm #1,573

As a trial I'd suggest extending 1 run every hour on each of the Cobalt & coasts to metrocentre, these will create a bus every hour from Blyth, whitley Bay, Hadrian Park & North Shields to Metrocentre plus a bus every 15-25 minutes from battle hill & Coast road to Metrocentre. In Newcastle the Metrocentre journeys will not serve Haymaket towards Metrocentre however will serve Haymaket towards the coast road, from Newcastle buses towards Metrocentre will from St Mary's place will turn right onto barras Bridge, merge onto the A167 towards Gateshead St barras bridge, exit onto the exit for central station exit the roundabout onto the A186, turn left onto Dean Street and operate via quaysude ,Swing Bridge & The centre link serving all stops exept barras bridge. Buses will operate the same route towards Newcastle upto barras bridge in reverse serving all stops again before going straight at barras bridge into Haymaket then normal route from there.

cbma06



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24 Aug 2021, 6:21 am #1,574
(23 Aug 2021, 8:14 pm)V514DFT 61-59
201-61
203-63
204/204A-64/64A
206-66
209-67
210-68
239- discuss about renumbering it 69
67-76
69/69B-77/77A


There’s already a 59 in East Durham. I would leave the existing 60/61 as is as there are well known to passengers, renumbering the 204/204A to 64/64A is just going to confuse passengers that use Arriva 64 from Sherburn.

I’m surprised that GNE hadn’t renumbered service 78 as a service 7, so you have the 6/7/8 out of Stanley area.


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cbma06
24 Aug 2021, 6:21 am #1,574

(23 Aug 2021, 8:14 pm)V514DFT 61-59
201-61
203-63
204/204A-64/64A
206-66
209-67
210-68
239- discuss about renumbering it 69
67-76
69/69B-77/77A


There’s already a 59 in East Durham. I would leave the existing 60/61 as is as there are well known to passengers, renumbering the 204/204A to 64/64A is just going to confuse passengers that use Arriva 64 from Sherburn.

I’m surprised that GNE hadn’t renumbered service 78 as a service 7, so you have the 6/7/8 out of Stanley area.


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Dan

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24 Aug 2021, 6:26 am #1,575
(24 Aug 2021, 6:21 am)cbma06 There’s already a 59 in East Durham. I would leave the existing 60/61 as is as there are well known to passengers, renumbering the 204/204A to 64/64A is just going to confuse passengers that use Arriva 64 from Sherburn.

I’m surprised that GNE hadn’t renumbered service 78 as a service 7, so you have the 6/7/8 out of Stanley area.


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It was considered but at that point it is change for the sake of change. Best to keep things as they are if it can be helped.


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Dan
24 Aug 2021, 6:26 am #1,575

(24 Aug 2021, 6:21 am)cbma06 There’s already a 59 in East Durham. I would leave the existing 60/61 as is as there are well known to passengers, renumbering the 204/204A to 64/64A is just going to confuse passengers that use Arriva 64 from Sherburn.

I’m surprised that GNE hadn’t renumbered service 78 as a service 7, so you have the 6/7/8 out of Stanley area.


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It was considered but at that point it is change for the sake of change. Best to keep things as they are if it can be helped.


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Andreos1



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24 Aug 2021, 6:42 am #1,576
(24 Aug 2021, 6:26 am)Dan It was considered but at that point it is change for the sake of change. Best to keep things as they are if it can be helped.


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You probably realise someone is going to jump in here and question some of the changes made over recent years.
So I'll jump in early. 

At what point does a change of number (265 - > 65 = increased frequency, but same route vs 78 - > 7 = same frequency, but route amendment) become change, for the sake of change?

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
24 Aug 2021, 6:42 am #1,576

(24 Aug 2021, 6:26 am)Dan It was considered but at that point it is change for the sake of change. Best to keep things as they are if it can be helped.


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You probably realise someone is going to jump in here and question some of the changes made over recent years.
So I'll jump in early. 

At what point does a change of number (265 - > 65 = increased frequency, but same route vs 78 - > 7 = same frequency, but route amendment) become change, for the sake of change?


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

24 Aug 2021, 6:52 am #1,577
(19 Aug 2021, 11:13 pm)BusLoverMum Good luck getting a train station reinstated in Newton Hall, too. The Nimbys in that part of town have objected to having phone masts put in because whittled trees are apparently ugly, meaning that some residents are having to resort to satellite broadband. They can't even take advantage of the fibre broadband that is being introduced, here.
If.. Nexus can secure funding for Durham it will be via the Leamside to some park and ride, probably near Belmont. The ECML is at breaking point which is why the DfT have been forced to relay the once relaid Leamside line. The nature of the main line doesn't allow for quadrupling to allow a local service, so I think Newton Hall nimbys are safe!
54APhotography
24 Aug 2021, 6:52 am #1,577

(19 Aug 2021, 11:13 pm)BusLoverMum Good luck getting a train station reinstated in Newton Hall, too. The Nimbys in that part of town have objected to having phone masts put in because whittled trees are apparently ugly, meaning that some residents are having to resort to satellite broadband. They can't even take advantage of the fibre broadband that is being introduced, here.
If.. Nexus can secure funding for Durham it will be via the Leamside to some park and ride, probably near Belmont. The ECML is at breaking point which is why the DfT have been forced to relay the once relaid Leamside line. The nature of the main line doesn't allow for quadrupling to allow a local service, so I think Newton Hall nimbys are safe!

L469 YVK



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24 Aug 2021, 8:06 am #1,578
(23 Aug 2021, 8:59 pm)GNE6312 As a trial I'd suggest extending 1 run every hour on each of the Cobalt & coasts to metrocentre, these will create a bus every hour from Blyth, whitley Bay, Hadrian Park & North Shields to Metrocentre plus a bus every 15-25 minutes from battle hill & Coast road to Metrocentre. In Newcastle the Metrocentre journeys will not serve Haymaket towards Metrocentre however will serve Haymaket towards the coast road, from Newcastle buses towards Metrocentre will from St Mary's place will turn right onto barras Bridge, merge onto the A167 towards Gateshead St barras bridge, exit onto the exit for central station exit the roundabout onto the A186, turn left onto Dean Street and operate via quaysude ,Swing Bridge & The centre link serving all stops exept barras bridge. Buses will operate the same route towards Newcastle upto barras bridge in reverse serving all stops again before going straight at barras bridge into Haymaket then normal route from there.
In theory, it would be welcomed but given the sheer numbee of GNE Newcastle - MetroCentre services plus the potential traffic issues, it's far easier to change buses.

With regards to the 1 now operating to Gateshead only, I'd be tempted now to extend it the other way towards Blyth (via Ridley Park) with a potential further extension to Cambois. Only trouble with a Cambois extension (if running via Cowpen etc) would be a number clash with Arriva's 1 unless GNE were willing to re-number back to 301?
L469 YVK
24 Aug 2021, 8:06 am #1,578

(23 Aug 2021, 8:59 pm)GNE6312 As a trial I'd suggest extending 1 run every hour on each of the Cobalt & coasts to metrocentre, these will create a bus every hour from Blyth, whitley Bay, Hadrian Park & North Shields to Metrocentre plus a bus every 15-25 minutes from battle hill & Coast road to Metrocentre. In Newcastle the Metrocentre journeys will not serve Haymaket towards Metrocentre however will serve Haymaket towards the coast road, from Newcastle buses towards Metrocentre will from St Mary's place will turn right onto barras Bridge, merge onto the A167 towards Gateshead St barras bridge, exit onto the exit for central station exit the roundabout onto the A186, turn left onto Dean Street and operate via quaysude ,Swing Bridge & The centre link serving all stops exept barras bridge. Buses will operate the same route towards Newcastle upto barras bridge in reverse serving all stops again before going straight at barras bridge into Haymaket then normal route from there.
In theory, it would be welcomed but given the sheer numbee of GNE Newcastle - MetroCentre services plus the potential traffic issues, it's far easier to change buses.

With regards to the 1 now operating to Gateshead only, I'd be tempted now to extend it the other way towards Blyth (via Ridley Park) with a potential further extension to Cambois. Only trouble with a Cambois extension (if running via Cowpen etc) would be a number clash with Arriva's 1 unless GNE were willing to re-number back to 301?

cbma06



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24 Aug 2021, 8:12 am #1,579
(24 Aug 2021, 6:42 am)Andreos1 You probably realise someone is going to jump in here and question some of the changes made over recent years.
So I'll jump in early. 

At what point does a change of number (265 - > 65 = increased frequency, but same route vs 78 - > 7 = same frequency, but route amendment) become change, for the sake of change?


I think it’s because the 65 will have a new brand and not linked to Peterlee purples, saying that the 208 is being changed to the 62/62A but kept in (Peterlee purples?), I would of thought with the new rebrand of the 8/78 that there would change the 78 into 7.


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cbma06
24 Aug 2021, 8:12 am #1,579

(24 Aug 2021, 6:42 am)Andreos1 You probably realise someone is going to jump in here and question some of the changes made over recent years.
So I'll jump in early. 

At what point does a change of number (265 - > 65 = increased frequency, but same route vs 78 - > 7 = same frequency, but route amendment) become change, for the sake of change?


I think it’s because the 65 will have a new brand and not linked to Peterlee purples, saying that the 208 is being changed to the 62/62A but kept in (Peterlee purples?), I would of thought with the new rebrand of the 8/78 that there would change the 78 into 7.


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Dan

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24 Aug 2021, 8:14 am #1,580
(24 Aug 2021, 6:42 am)Andreos1 You probably realise someone is going to jump in here and question some of the changes made over recent years.
So I'll jump in early. 

At what point does a change of number (265 - > 65 = increased frequency, but same route vs 78 - > 7 = same frequency, but route amendment) become change, for the sake of change?

I had no doubt in my mind you'd come back with something, Andreos. You always do!
Dan
24 Aug 2021, 8:14 am #1,580

(24 Aug 2021, 6:42 am)Andreos1 You probably realise someone is going to jump in here and question some of the changes made over recent years.
So I'll jump in early. 

At what point does a change of number (265 - > 65 = increased frequency, but same route vs 78 - > 7 = same frequency, but route amendment) become change, for the sake of change?

I had no doubt in my mind you'd come back with something, Andreos. You always do!

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