(28 Dec 2021, 8:05 pm)L469 YVK But, if they did, CLS to Stanley for remote reliefs is less mileage than CLS to Hownsgill.
(28 Dec 2021, 8:05 pm)L469 YVK But, if they did, CLS to Stanley for remote reliefs is less mileage than CLS to Hownsgill.
(28 Dec 2021, 8:27 pm)Wybus I’m sure pre Covid I remember long queues at peak times for the X84/X85 in Eldon Square, and didn’t GNE used to run an additional peak hour trip (used to be something that did a Team Valley then a short 12 then an X85 as I recall), it’s strange how it’s gone from this to such a big reduction
When all the workers return to their offices when we are back to normal they are going to no doubt have to find an alternative way to travel home, unless they can all fit on an hourly Versa.
(28 Dec 2021, 8:27 pm)Wybus I’m sure pre Covid I remember long queues at peak times for the X84/X85 in Eldon Square, and didn’t GNE used to run an additional peak hour trip (used to be something that did a Team Valley then a short 12 then an X85 as I recall), it’s strange how it’s gone from this to such a big reduction
When all the workers return to their offices when we are back to normal they are going to no doubt have to find an alternative way to travel home, unless they can all fit on an hourly Versa.
(29 Dec 2021, 2:00 am)BeachBoy99 Workers aren't going to be returning to the office, though. Remote working is now the future, hence why the bus industry is one of those significantly struggling to recover from this pandemic. We're never 'going back to normal' per se.
(29 Dec 2021, 2:00 am)BeachBoy99 Workers aren't going to be returning to the office, though. Remote working is now the future, hence why the bus industry is one of those significantly struggling to recover from this pandemic. We're never 'going back to normal' per se.
(29 Dec 2021, 8:54 am)streetdeckfan People keep saying this and I just think it's a load of rubbish. I give the whole remote working thing another year, at most.
(29 Dec 2021, 8:54 am)streetdeckfan People keep saying this and I just think it's a load of rubbish. I give the whole remote working thing another year, at most.
(29 Dec 2021, 8:54 am)streetdeckfan People keep saying this and I just think it's a load of rubbish. I give the whole remote working thing another year, at most. In fact, most people I know who had to work from home were literally celebrating when they were allowed back in the office.
The company that one of my friends worked for gave up part of their office space during COVID as they believed remote working was the future, now they're regretting it as everyone wanted to be back in the office, and they actually had a few leave when they were told they didn't have space.
You would think that if the reason for less people using the bus was because they're working from home, then car traffic would also be down as they don't all travel by bus. But no, traffic is worse than it used to be, it's almost as if all that scaremongering about public transport being dirty and dangerous is what stopped people using it!
(29 Dec 2021, 8:54 am)streetdeckfan People keep saying this and I just think it's a load of rubbish. I give the whole remote working thing another year, at most. In fact, most people I know who had to work from home were literally celebrating when they were allowed back in the office.
The company that one of my friends worked for gave up part of their office space during COVID as they believed remote working was the future, now they're regretting it as everyone wanted to be back in the office, and they actually had a few leave when they were told they didn't have space.
You would think that if the reason for less people using the bus was because they're working from home, then car traffic would also be down as they don't all travel by bus. But no, traffic is worse than it used to be, it's almost as if all that scaremongering about public transport being dirty and dangerous is what stopped people using it!
(28 Dec 2021, 11:21 pm)peter My prediction would be that 6331-6333 will head to Chester for the 21/X21, 6301-6307 could go to Washington for X1 spares and then to have the same number of Euro 6 vehicles funded for by South Tyneside Council for the 50, then 6336/8-40 for the Consett expresses, with 1 spare out of 6356-6363, plus 6064.
(28 Dec 2021, 11:21 pm)peter My prediction would be that 6331-6333 will head to Chester for the 21/X21, 6301-6307 could go to Washington for X1 spares and then to have the same number of Euro 6 vehicles funded for by South Tyneside Council for the 50, then 6336/8-40 for the Consett expresses, with 1 spare out of 6356-6363, plus 6064.
(29 Dec 2021, 1:59 am)6049 You're then adding in resources to facilitate driver changeovers at Stanley from Chester. That's dead mileage in a van or bus to a depot which currently has next to no dead mileage for driver changeovers as of the top of my head, Chester changeovers all occur at the Front Street/South Burns.I know most X30/X31 & X70/X71/X72 changeovers happen at Consett unless it's the odd run where it so happens a driver needs changed at Stanley.
Consett, all changeovers at some stage involve dead mileage. Drivers there all either have to take a bus up to Consett or Stanley - whether that's running light to/from the depot to start/end points, or just using a bus as a shuttle to relieve a service at Consett/Stanley.
Keep the resources where they're needed anyway instead of diluting them. Not every X30/X31 changeover happens at Stanley anyway if its changed at Consett as an X70/X71. The only way I could think of avoiding it would be to interwork it with an X21, but the frequency wouldn't make it an easy interwork and you'd probably have to magic some low height deckers out of thin air which won't happen.
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(29 Dec 2021, 1:59 am)6049 You're then adding in resources to facilitate driver changeovers at Stanley from Chester. That's dead mileage in a van or bus to a depot which currently has next to no dead mileage for driver changeovers as of the top of my head, Chester changeovers all occur at the Front Street/South Burns.I know most X30/X31 & X70/X71/X72 changeovers happen at Consett unless it's the odd run where it so happens a driver needs changed at Stanley.
Consett, all changeovers at some stage involve dead mileage. Drivers there all either have to take a bus up to Consett or Stanley - whether that's running light to/from the depot to start/end points, or just using a bus as a shuttle to relieve a service at Consett/Stanley.
Keep the resources where they're needed anyway instead of diluting them. Not every X30/X31 changeover happens at Stanley anyway if its changed at Consett as an X70/X71. The only way I could think of avoiding it would be to interwork it with an X21, but the frequency wouldn't make it an easy interwork and you'd probably have to magic some low height deckers out of thin air which won't happen.
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(29 Dec 2021, 8:54 am)streetdeckfan People keep saying this and I just think it's a load of rubbish. I give the whole remote working thing another year, at most. In fact, most people I know who had to work from home were literally celebrating when they were allowed back in the office.
The company that one of my friends worked for gave up part of their office space during COVID as they believed remote working was the future, now they're regretting it as everyone wanted to be back in the office, and they actually had a few leave when they were told they didn't have space.
I've worked from 'home' for years, but I didn't realise how much of that time I spent working from places that weren't home until I couldn't go to them!
Even as someone who has a dedicated office, I find actually working at home for extended periods of time quite difficult as I get constantly distracted and side tracked, hence why I would often just go to Spoons or IKEA for coffee.
You would think that if the reason for less people using the bus was because they're working from home, then car traffic would also be down as they don't all travel by bus. But no, traffic is worse than it used to be, it's almost as if all that scaremongering about public transport being dirty and dangerous is what stopped people using it!
(29 Dec 2021, 8:54 am)streetdeckfan People keep saying this and I just think it's a load of rubbish. I give the whole remote working thing another year, at most. In fact, most people I know who had to work from home were literally celebrating when they were allowed back in the office.
The company that one of my friends worked for gave up part of their office space during COVID as they believed remote working was the future, now they're regretting it as everyone wanted to be back in the office, and they actually had a few leave when they were told they didn't have space.
I've worked from 'home' for years, but I didn't realise how much of that time I spent working from places that weren't home until I couldn't go to them!
Even as someone who has a dedicated office, I find actually working at home for extended periods of time quite difficult as I get constantly distracted and side tracked, hence why I would often just go to Spoons or IKEA for coffee.
You would think that if the reason for less people using the bus was because they're working from home, then car traffic would also be down as they don't all travel by bus. But no, traffic is worse than it used to be, it's almost as if all that scaremongering about public transport being dirty and dangerous is what stopped people using it!
(29 Dec 2021, 11:53 am)54APhotography If people in secure jobs can work at home, MOJ, UKAEA, then so can everyone else. The civil service has jumped on remote working and is set for the future. The days of the Cobalt are over, the savings for remote working are enormous and when the ministry says yes, the rest follow.Not exactly though. Some companies with offoces elsewhere in the country but looking for a cheaper location than the likes of London, Leeds, Manchester etc might actually decide to up ship and move to the likes of Cobalt etc.
(29 Dec 2021, 11:53 am)54APhotography If people in secure jobs can work at home, MOJ, UKAEA, then so can everyone else. The civil service has jumped on remote working and is set for the future. The days of the Cobalt are over, the savings for remote working are enormous and when the ministry says yes, the rest follow.Not exactly though. Some companies with offoces elsewhere in the country but looking for a cheaper location than the likes of London, Leeds, Manchester etc might actually decide to up ship and move to the likes of Cobalt etc.
(29 Dec 2021, 8:54 am)streetdeckfan People keep saying this and I just think it's a load of rubbish. I give the whole remote working thing another year, at most. In fact, most people I know who had to work from home were literally celebrating when they were allowed back in the office.
The company that one of my friends worked for gave up part of their office space during COVID as they believed remote working was the future, now they're regretting it as everyone wanted to be back in the office, and they actually had a few leave when they were told they didn't have space.
I've worked from 'home' for years, but I didn't realise how much of that time I spent working from places that weren't home until I couldn't go to them!
Even as someone who has a dedicated office, I find actually working at home for extended periods of time quite difficult as I get constantly distracted and side tracked, hence why I would often just go to Spoons or IKEA for coffee.
You would think that if the reason for less people using the bus was because they're working from home, then car traffic would also be down as they don't all travel by bus. But no, traffic is worse than it used to be, it's almost as if all that scaremongering about public transport being dirty and dangerous is what stopped people using it!
(29 Dec 2021, 8:54 am)streetdeckfan People keep saying this and I just think it's a load of rubbish. I give the whole remote working thing another year, at most. In fact, most people I know who had to work from home were literally celebrating when they were allowed back in the office.
The company that one of my friends worked for gave up part of their office space during COVID as they believed remote working was the future, now they're regretting it as everyone wanted to be back in the office, and they actually had a few leave when they were told they didn't have space.
I've worked from 'home' for years, but I didn't realise how much of that time I spent working from places that weren't home until I couldn't go to them!
Even as someone who has a dedicated office, I find actually working at home for extended periods of time quite difficult as I get constantly distracted and side tracked, hence why I would often just go to Spoons or IKEA for coffee.
You would think that if the reason for less people using the bus was because they're working from home, then car traffic would also be down as they don't all travel by bus. But no, traffic is worse than it used to be, it's almost as if all that scaremongering about public transport being dirty and dangerous is what stopped people using it!
(29 Dec 2021, 12:53 pm)L469 YVK Not exactly though. Some companies with offoces elsewhere in the country but looking for a cheaper location than the likes of London, Leeds, Manchester etc might actually decide to up ship and move to the likes of Cobalt etc.
Thankfully, GNE have streamlined the Cobalt & Coast services to actually make money other ways, especially the 309 now being seen as a viable alternative to the 308 in most instances.
(29 Dec 2021, 12:53 pm)L469 YVK Not exactly though. Some companies with offoces elsewhere in the country but looking for a cheaper location than the likes of London, Leeds, Manchester etc might actually decide to up ship and move to the likes of Cobalt etc.
Thankfully, GNE have streamlined the Cobalt & Coast services to actually make money other ways, especially the 309 now being seen as a viable alternative to the 308 in most instances.
I've just realised something with the X45/X46 frequency drop. GNE have actually made a smart move. Now NO, I'm not going to say the change will happen or even vehicle allocations for that matter. But..........
- X45/X46 - Every 20 mins
- X70/X71/X72 - Every 20 mins
It would give GNE another option to interwork these groups of services moving forward should it be needed.
Total PVR would be 14x and round trips would be 4hr30m. Minimum layover with the exception of the X72 at Stanley would be 10 mins.
X45-X71-X45
X45 ex CON - 00:12 > 01:15 NCL
X71 ex NCL - 01:25 > 02:20 CON
X71 ex CON - 02:34 > 03:32 NCL
X45 ex NCL - 03:42 > 04:40 CON
X46-X70-X45
X46 ex CON - 00:32 > 01:35 NCL
X70 ex NCL - 01:45 > 02:40 CON
X70 ex CON - 02:54 > 03:52 NCL
X45 ex NCL - 04:02 > 05:02 CON
X45-X72-X46
X45 ex CON - 00:52 > 01:55 NCL
X72 ex NCL - 02:05 > 03:03 STY
X72 ex STY - 03:10 > 04:12 NCL
X46 ex NCL - 04:22 > 05:22 CON
Or a better one and this would in fact simplify the vehicle allocations as well as providing more even gaps between the X45/X46 and X70/X71.
*PVR of X30/X31/X45/X46 - 12x E400MMC*
X45-X30-X31-X45
X45 ex CON - 02:04 - 03:07 NCL
X30 ex NCL - 03:15 - 03:53 STY
X31 ex STY - 04:05 - 04:46 NCL
X45 ex NCL - 04:55 - 05:55 CON
X46-X31-X30-X46
X46 ex CON - 02:24 - 03:27 NCL
X31 ex NCL - 03:35 - 04:14 STY
X30 ex STY - 04:26 - 05:06 NCL
X46 ex NCL - 05:15 - 06:15 CON
X45-X31-X31-X45
X45 ex CON - 02:44 - 03:47 NCL
X30 ex NCL - 03:55 - 04:34 STY
X31 ex STY - 04:45 - 05:26 NCL
X45 ex NCL - 05:35 - 06:35 CON
*PVR of X70/X71/X72 - 7x StreetDeck*
X70-X72-X72-X71
X70 ex CON - 01:57 - 02:55 NCL
X72 ex NCL - 03:05 - 04:03 STY
X72 ex STY - 04:13 - 05:15 NCL
X71 ex NCL - 05:25 - 06:20 CON
X72-X71-X71-X70
X72 ex STY - 02:13 - 03:15 NCL
X71 ex NCL - 03:25 - 04:20 CON
X71 ex CON - 04:37 - 05:35 NCL
X70 ex NCL - 05:45 - 06:40 CON
X71-X70-X70-X72
X71 ex CON - 02:37 - 03:35 NCL
X70 ex NCL - 03:45 - 04:40 CON
X70 ex CON - 04:57 - 05:55 NCL
X72 ex NCL - 06:05 - 07:03 STY
So as a result of the above, the Consett to Newcastle departures would be:
xx:04, xx:24, xx:37, xx:44, xx:57
And the Newcastle to Consett departures would be:
xx:15, xx:25, xx:35, xx:45, xx:55
Vehicle allocations to save money........E400MMCs kept in dark green but just branded Consett or Stanley to Newcastle. StreetDecks kept in light green with Red Kite stripped off and branded Consett - Sunniside - Gateshead - Newcastle
(30 Dec 2021, 1:15 pm)L469 YVK Vehicle allocations to save money........E400MMCs kept in dark green but just branded Consett or Stanley to Newcastle. StreetDecks kept in light green with Red Kite stripped off and branded Consett - Sunniside - Gateshead - Newcastle
(30 Dec 2021, 1:15 pm)L469 YVK Vehicle allocations to save money........E400MMCs kept in dark green but just branded Consett or Stanley to Newcastle. StreetDecks kept in light green with Red Kite stripped off and branded Consett - Sunniside - Gateshead - Newcastle
(30 Dec 2021, 7:34 pm)Adrian What are you basing the cost saving on? How many drivers would you need to resource your suggestion and how do they fit in to the existing duties for the depot?The money saving for the internal vehicle re-allocation within Consett depot only (no other depots or services affected) would be down to the simple fact that no vehicles are partially / fully repainted, only slight tagline / vinyl changes would need made.
(30 Dec 2021, 7:34 pm)Adrian What are you basing the cost saving on? How many drivers would you need to resource your suggestion and how do they fit in to the existing duties for the depot?The money saving for the internal vehicle re-allocation within Consett depot only (no other depots or services affected) would be down to the simple fact that no vehicles are partially / fully repainted, only slight tagline / vinyl changes would need made.
(29 Dec 2021, 8:40 pm)54APhotography The secure intranet available means secure jobs are now remote. The offices moving away from London will go to Tory constituencies, that's already been decided.Yeah, Husband's colleagues are now as far flung as Glasgow, Romania and Sunderland.
(29 Dec 2021, 8:40 pm)54APhotography The secure intranet available means secure jobs are now remote. The offices moving away from London will go to Tory constituencies, that's already been decided.Yeah, Husband's colleagues are now as far flung as Glasgow, Romania and Sunderland.
(29 Dec 2021, 8:40 pm)54APhotography The secure intranet available means secure jobs are now remote. The offices moving away from London will go to Tory constituencies, that's already been decided.
(29 Dec 2021, 8:40 pm)54APhotography The secure intranet available means secure jobs are now remote. The offices moving away from London will go to Tory constituencies, that's already been decided.
What changes are being made to the 42/42A from 4th January? I hope the 684 continues to serve Denton Burn and Fenham in the long term and I'd like to see the evening and Sunday trips return in the future.
(31 Dec 2021, 8:22 am)Storx Personally I think Cobalt will do alright as it's quite easy to get to and has useful amenities on the doorstep like The Village for example for people to stop over and it's just off the A19 but in taxi distance from Newcastle Central. I believe BT/EE has already committed for it to be one of it's new hubs for call centres and Sage has just moved it's HQ there which will always be there. Similar with Quorum I think will survive long term aswell being so close to Newcastle with BT/EE also committing to keeping the massive call centre opposite near Greggs (who also won't be going anywhere).
It's the likes of Peterlee, Rainton, Regent Centre and Doxford Park which are in big trouble. In the middle of nowhere with nothing at all for people wanting to stay over or awkward to get to using long distance public transport. EE at Doxford is on borrowed time imo.
(31 Dec 2021, 8:22 am)Storx Personally I think Cobalt will do alright as it's quite easy to get to and has useful amenities on the doorstep like The Village for example for people to stop over and it's just off the A19 but in taxi distance from Newcastle Central. I believe BT/EE has already committed for it to be one of it's new hubs for call centres and Sage has just moved it's HQ there which will always be there. Similar with Quorum I think will survive long term aswell being so close to Newcastle with BT/EE also committing to keeping the massive call centre opposite near Greggs (who also won't be going anywhere).
It's the likes of Peterlee, Rainton, Regent Centre and Doxford Park which are in big trouble. In the middle of nowhere with nothing at all for people wanting to stay over or awkward to get to using long distance public transport. EE at Doxford is on borrowed time imo.