Go North East | January 2022 Service Changes
Go North East | January 2022 Service Changes
(16 Jan 2022, 9:06 pm)OrangeArrow49 So the 684 will keep Versas for the long term? What Hexham services are covered in the ZEBRA bid? Are the Yutongs going to be good buses?
(16 Jan 2022, 9:06 pm)OrangeArrow49 So the 684 will keep Versas for the long term? What Hexham services are covered in the ZEBRA bid? Are the Yutongs going to be good buses?
(16 Jan 2022, 10:11 pm)Adrian This post has details of the ZEBRA bid allocation: https://northeastbuses.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?tid=3355&pid=270000#pid270000
(16 Jan 2022, 10:11 pm)Adrian This post has details of the ZEBRA bid allocation: https://northeastbuses.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?tid=3355&pid=270000#pid270000
Can't help but wonder if GNE have jumped the gun a bit with giving up on the commuter type services. Since the announcements re Covid measures being removed as part of Operation Red Meat/Save Big Dog there's been a marked change in a lot of the chatter around return to offices. Certainly in some cases a much more significant expectation of physical presence in office than had previously been mooted.
(21 Jan 2022, 2:35 pm)stagecoachbusdepot Can't help but wonder if GNE have jumped the gun a bit with giving up on the commuter type services. Since the announcements re Covid measures being removed as part of Operation Red Meat/Save Big Dog there's been a marked change in a lot of the chatter around return to offices. Certainly in some cases a much more significant expectation of physical presence in office than had previously been mooted.
(21 Jan 2022, 2:35 pm)stagecoachbusdepot Can't help but wonder if GNE have jumped the gun a bit with giving up on the commuter type services. Since the announcements re Covid measures being removed as part of Operation Red Meat/Save Big Dog there's been a marked change in a lot of the chatter around return to offices. Certainly in some cases a much more significant expectation of physical presence in office than had previously been mooted.
(21 Jan 2022, 2:46 pm)Adrian I'd say they've jumped the gun in advance of the BSIP, but I don't think the Big Dog will be around long enough for "Operation Red Meat" to become reality.
They might well remove restrictions, but they'd have to introduce new legislation if they wanted to mandate the private sector back into the office. Many are looking, if not already at advance stages, of hybrid working models. This is what operators should be focusing their time on; ensuring suitable travel products are available to ensure the bus still remains an attractive proposition to hybrid workers on office days.
(21 Jan 2022, 2:46 pm)Adrian I'd say they've jumped the gun in advance of the BSIP, but I don't think the Big Dog will be around long enough for "Operation Red Meat" to become reality.
They might well remove restrictions, but they'd have to introduce new legislation if they wanted to mandate the private sector back into the office. Many are looking, if not already at advance stages, of hybrid working models. This is what operators should be focusing their time on; ensuring suitable travel products are available to ensure the bus still remains an attractive proposition to hybrid workers on office days.
(21 Jan 2022, 3:57 pm)stagecoachbusdepot Yes but..public sector is a pretty sizeable part of the workforce, especially in NE. And equally some examples of big name private businesses throwing caution to the wind and calling workers back to offices en masse (certainly some of the banking institutions, for example). Of course there are a decent number of forward thinking private companies who are looking at meaningful hybrid models but I guess my point was the numbers apparently to be required to return to offices in public sector and some of the private sector is greater than might have been anticipated a few weeks or months ago.GNE still have a good offering to Cobalt though:
Regardless of the detail of hybrid working pattern thoughs, the current offer from operators is unlikely to tempt a willing switch onto buses, for all the reasons well rehearsed on here. I think with more in offices, those who have no choice but to use bus will make the reduced offering of peak runs fuller/run later and so continue the vicious cycle; meaning those with any choice steering clear.
(21 Jan 2022, 3:57 pm)stagecoachbusdepot Yes but..public sector is a pretty sizeable part of the workforce, especially in NE. And equally some examples of big name private businesses throwing caution to the wind and calling workers back to offices en masse (certainly some of the banking institutions, for example). Of course there are a decent number of forward thinking private companies who are looking at meaningful hybrid models but I guess my point was the numbers apparently to be required to return to offices in public sector and some of the private sector is greater than might have been anticipated a few weeks or months ago.GNE still have a good offering to Cobalt though:
Regardless of the detail of hybrid working pattern thoughs, the current offer from operators is unlikely to tempt a willing switch onto buses, for all the reasons well rehearsed on here. I think with more in offices, those who have no choice but to use bus will make the reduced offering of peak runs fuller/run later and so continue the vicious cycle; meaning those with any choice steering clear.
(21 Jan 2022, 4:53 pm)L469 YVK GNE still have a good offering to Cobalt though:It's only a good offering if you happen to live on those routes.
- 309 every 20 mins including 310 covering NBS & Sage with a very short walk.
- X39 at peak times.
(21 Jan 2022, 4:53 pm)L469 YVK GNE still have a good offering to Cobalt though:It's only a good offering if you happen to live on those routes.
- 309 every 20 mins including 310 covering NBS & Sage with a very short walk.
- X39 at peak times.
(21 Jan 2022, 2:46 pm)Adrian I'd say they've jumped the gun in advance of the BSIP, but I don't think the Big Dog will be around long enough for "Operation Red Meat" to become reality.
They might well remove restrictions, but they'd have to introduce new legislation if they wanted to mandate the private sector back into the office. Many are looking, if not already at advance stages, of hybrid working models. This is what operators should be focusing their time on; ensuring suitable travel products are available to ensure the bus still remains an attractive proposition to hybrid workers on office days.
(21 Jan 2022, 2:46 pm)Adrian I'd say they've jumped the gun in advance of the BSIP, but I don't think the Big Dog will be around long enough for "Operation Red Meat" to become reality.
They might well remove restrictions, but they'd have to introduce new legislation if they wanted to mandate the private sector back into the office. Many are looking, if not already at advance stages, of hybrid working models. This is what operators should be focusing their time on; ensuring suitable travel products are available to ensure the bus still remains an attractive proposition to hybrid workers on office days.
X85 not being withdrawn from 30th January? Nexus website now says X84 withdrawn (replaced by 684) and X85 revised timetable. Maybe this is to keep a service on Sundays?
(23 Jan 2022, 12:12 pm)OrangeArrow49 X85 not being withdrawn from 30th January? Nexus website now says X84 withdrawn (replaced by 684) and X85 revised timetable. Maybe this is to keep a service on Sundays?
(23 Jan 2022, 12:12 pm)OrangeArrow49 X85 not being withdrawn from 30th January? Nexus website now says X84 withdrawn (replaced by 684) and X85 revised timetable. Maybe this is to keep a service on Sundays?
(23 Jan 2022, 12:14 pm)Michael X85 - 1 each way - Mon to Fri only.
https://www.nexus.org.uk/sites/default/f...300122.pdf
(23 Jan 2022, 12:14 pm)Michael X85 - 1 each way - Mon to Fri only.
https://www.nexus.org.uk/sites/default/f...300122.pdf
(23 Jan 2022, 12:18 pm)OrangeArrow49 Thank you. Couldn't find it. What's the point of that?
(23 Jan 2022, 12:22 pm)Michael Some reason its only shown in the timetable section.
Probs because passengers moaned it was going to take too long on the 684 - and I bet half of them don't even use it!
(23 Jan 2022, 12:22 pm)Michael Some reason its only shown in the timetable section.
Probs because passengers moaned it was going to take too long on the 684 - and I bet half of them don't even use it!
(23 Jan 2022, 12:39 pm)OrangeArrow49 Yeah the 684/685 will take forever to do the full route between Hexham and Newcastle, but one X85 each way and only Monday to Friday seems pointless and unusable. The 74 is good one way, but the X84/X85 is a good quicker option. Disappointed there will be no services on Sundays (they could at least implement ticket acceptance on the 685). Arriva operates the Sunday 685 don't they?Arriva do operate the 685 on a Sunday between Newcastle & Hexham. Probably the reason GNE won't run the 684 on a Sunday
(23 Jan 2022, 12:39 pm)OrangeArrow49 Yeah the 684/685 will take forever to do the full route between Hexham and Newcastle, but one X85 each way and only Monday to Friday seems pointless and unusable. The 74 is good one way, but the X84/X85 is a good quicker option. Disappointed there will be no services on Sundays (they could at least implement ticket acceptance on the 685). Arriva operates the Sunday 685 don't they?Arriva do operate the 685 on a Sunday between Newcastle & Hexham. Probably the reason GNE won't run the 684 on a Sunday
Be good if the 684 journey time could be under an hour (maybe about 50 minutes, same as the 685).
(23 Jan 2022, 1:06 pm)Omega54 I wonder which depot is going to operate it and what vehicle will use it.
It would be nice if it was 5498.
(23 Jan 2022, 1:06 pm)Omega54 I wonder which depot is going to operate it and what vehicle will use it.
It would be nice if it was 5498.
(23 Jan 2022, 12:39 pm)OrangeArrow49 Yeah the 684/685 will take forever to do the full route between Hexham and Newcastle, but one X85 each way and only Monday to Friday seems pointless and unusable. The 74 is good one way, but the X84/X85 is a good quicker option. Disappointed there will be no services on Sundays (they could at least implement ticket acceptance on the 685). Arriva operates the Sunday 685 don't they?
(23 Jan 2022, 12:39 pm)OrangeArrow49 Yeah the 684/685 will take forever to do the full route between Hexham and Newcastle, but one X85 each way and only Monday to Friday seems pointless and unusable. The 74 is good one way, but the X84/X85 is a good quicker option. Disappointed there will be no services on Sundays (they could at least implement ticket acceptance on the 685). Arriva operates the Sunday 685 don't they?
