New, Simplified Fares
New, Simplified Fares
New simplified fares from February 13th, New easier to understand zones and a more simplified choice for passengers, a step in the right direction for making ticket choices easier than ever https://www.gonortheast.co.uk/new-simpli...3-february
I agree the wider boundaries are easier to understand, and I feel represent good value in the main. Still not sure with the boundary fares though. Taking the Gateshead one as an example, I can travel Blackhall Mill to Wardley and back for a bargain £4.10, but if I live in say Greenside and work on Scotswood Road that's a Tyne & Wear ticket at £5.50?
The Tyne Valley Ten RouteSaver is valid on the 12/A according to the website, but I can't see a one day option for it?
Three very quick observations:
1) Bournmoor seems to be the only place falling outside its county/borough line, it’s County Durham but appears to be in the Tyne and Wear Zone - a mistake?
2) Seaton Sluice and Holywell, I can’t make out what zone they are, Northumberland or Tyne and Wear? Or both?
3) They still haven’t sorted the messy titles of “City of Sunderland” ticket and “Sunderland Central” ticket, despite the former now extending down to Blackhall, which is closer to Hartlepool than Sunderland! I’m not sure why they haven’t renamed it “Sunderland + East Durham” to safe confusion across the board. How many folk in Sunderland may end up with the more expensive ticket when they’re just going Doxford Park to The Bridges?
Looks like they've finally saw sense and are allowing normal tickets on the X10.
What is happening with the single tickets, they mention there will be "some pricing changes to adult single, adult return and on bus daily and weekly prices", but don't mention the changes to the adult single or returns!
I do feel for the folks on the borders who are forced into buying a ticket (the likes of Ouston, Hetton, Seaham) who are probably as a whole travelling North towards the city.
It's crazy it's cheaper to travel from Ouston to Bishop Auckland than Ouston to Birtley (which is a more likely journey lets be honest!) - I get there has to be a cut off at some point but it seems very straight cut vs potential travel patterns.
(27 Jan 2022, 4:16 pm)Ambassador I do feel for the folks on the borders who are forced into buying a ticket (the likes of Ouston, Hetton, Seaham) who are probably as a whole travelling North towards the city.
It's crazy it's cheaper to travel from Ouston to Bishop Auckland than Ouston to Birtley (which is a more likely journey lets be honest!) - I get there has to be a cut off at some point but it seems very straight cut vs potential travel patterns.
(27 Jan 2022, 4:16 pm)Ambassador I do feel for the folks on the borders who are forced into buying a ticket (the likes of Ouston, Hetton, Seaham) who are probably as a whole travelling North towards the city.
It's crazy it's cheaper to travel from Ouston to Bishop Auckland than Ouston to Birtley (which is a more likely journey lets be honest!) - I get there has to be a cut off at some point but it seems very straight cut vs potential travel patterns.
(27 Jan 2022, 4:21 pm)Dan Only in day/week form. Cheaper singles and returns are still available for Ouston to Birtley.
(27 Jan 2022, 4:21 pm)Dan Only in day/week form. Cheaper singles and returns are still available for Ouston to Birtley.
(27 Jan 2022, 4:25 pm)Thomas12 Can you say if the cheaper £1.70 singles (or £1.80 after a price increase possibly) will be remaining within the North Tyneside, Gateshead zones etc?
Found these really useful considering I don't use the bus too often at the minute.
(27 Jan 2022, 4:25 pm)Thomas12 Can you say if the cheaper £1.70 singles (or £1.80 after a price increase possibly) will be remaining within the North Tyneside, Gateshead zones etc?
Found these really useful considering I don't use the bus too often at the minute.
(27 Jan 2022, 4:29 pm)Dan Yes - effectively the summer savings fare campaign will be kept permanent (in reality it would have been hard to move away from it, given the length of time the 'sale' had been ongoing), which includes the cheaper singles and the caps on these fares within boundaries.
(27 Jan 2022, 4:29 pm)Dan Yes - effectively the summer savings fare campaign will be kept permanent (in reality it would have been hard to move away from it, given the length of time the 'sale' had been ongoing), which includes the cheaper singles and the caps on these fares within boundaries.
(27 Jan 2022, 4:29 pm)Dan Yes - effectively the summer savings fare campaign will be kept permanent (in reality it would have been hard to move away from it, given the length of time the 'sale' had been ongoing), which includes the cheaper singles and the caps on these fares within boundaries.How will the fares after 7pm distinguish from whether to charge £1 or £2, will it be straight forward like £1 on - X20/X66/58 and £2 21/X21 etc.
(27 Jan 2022, 4:29 pm)Dan Yes - effectively the summer savings fare campaign will be kept permanent (in reality it would have been hard to move away from it, given the length of time the 'sale' had been ongoing), which includes the cheaper singles and the caps on these fares within boundaries.How will the fares after 7pm distinguish from whether to charge £1 or £2, will it be straight forward like £1 on - X20/X66/58 and £2 21/X21 etc.
(27 Jan 2022, 4:32 pm)Omega54 How will the fares after 7pm distinguish from whether to charge £1 or £2, will it be straight forward like £1 on - X20/X66/58 and £2 21/X21 etc.
Also so these after 7pm fares count for the X10 aswell?
(27 Jan 2022, 4:32 pm)Omega54 How will the fares after 7pm distinguish from whether to charge £1 or £2, will it be straight forward like £1 on - X20/X66/58 and £2 21/X21 etc.
Also so these after 7pm fares count for the X10 aswell?
(27 Jan 2022, 4:32 pm)Omega54 How will the fares after 7pm distinguish from whether to charge £1 or £2, will it be straight forward like £1 on - X20/X66/58 and £2 21/X21 etc.
Also so these after 7pm fares count for the X10 aswell?
(27 Jan 2022, 4:32 pm)Omega54 How will the fares after 7pm distinguish from whether to charge £1 or £2, will it be straight forward like £1 on - X20/X66/58 and £2 21/X21 etc.
Also so these after 7pm fares count for the X10 aswell?
(27 Jan 2022, 3:23 pm)Drifter60 Three very quick observations:
1) Bournmoor seems to be the only place falling outside its county/borough line, it’s County Durham but appears to be in the Tyne and Wear Zone - a mistake?
2) Seaton Sluice and Holywell, I can’t make out what zone they are, Northumberland or Tyne and Wear? Or both?
3) They still haven’t sorted the messy titles of “City of Sunderland” ticket and “Sunderland Central” ticket, despite the former now extending down to Blackhall, which is closer to Hartlepool than Sunderland! I’m not sure why they haven’t renamed it “Sunderland + East Durham” to safe confusion across the board. How many folk in Sunderland may end up with the more expensive ticket when they’re just going Doxford Park to The Bridges?
(27 Jan 2022, 4:16 pm)Ambassador I do feel for the folks on the borders who are forced into buying a ticket (the likes of Ouston, Hetton, Seaham) who are probably as a whole travelling North towards the city.
It's crazy it's cheaper to travel from Ouston to Bishop Auckland than Ouston to Birtley (which is a more likely journey lets be honest!) - I get there has to be a cut off at some point but it seems very straight cut vs potential travel patterns.
(27 Jan 2022, 4:36 pm)Chris 1 I read it as, if the normal daytime fare is less than £2 then the normal daytime fare will apply. If it's more than £2, then you'll pay £2.
(27 Jan 2022, 3:23 pm)Drifter60 Three very quick observations:
1) Bournmoor seems to be the only place falling outside its county/borough line, it’s County Durham but appears to be in the Tyne and Wear Zone - a mistake?
2) Seaton Sluice and Holywell, I can’t make out what zone they are, Northumberland or Tyne and Wear? Or both?
3) They still haven’t sorted the messy titles of “City of Sunderland” ticket and “Sunderland Central” ticket, despite the former now extending down to Blackhall, which is closer to Hartlepool than Sunderland! I’m not sure why they haven’t renamed it “Sunderland + East Durham” to safe confusion across the board. How many folk in Sunderland may end up with the more expensive ticket when they’re just going Doxford Park to The Bridges?
(27 Jan 2022, 4:16 pm)Ambassador I do feel for the folks on the borders who are forced into buying a ticket (the likes of Ouston, Hetton, Seaham) who are probably as a whole travelling North towards the city.
It's crazy it's cheaper to travel from Ouston to Bishop Auckland than Ouston to Birtley (which is a more likely journey lets be honest!) - I get there has to be a cut off at some point but it seems very straight cut vs potential travel patterns.
(27 Jan 2022, 4:36 pm)Chris 1 I read it as, if the normal daytime fare is less than £2 then the normal daytime fare will apply. If it's more than £2, then you'll pay £2.
Is it just me who thinks it would be easier to just have the £4 zones and price it as 1 zone £4, 2 zones £5.30, all zones £6. Similar to the Arriva triple ticket in Northumberland which is as simple as it can get.
Don't see the need of having 2 zones, especially the ridiculous Northumberland Zone up in Ashington. It serves no purpose unless someone want's to go on a magical mystery tout from Ashington to North Shields, the 310 to Newcastle then use another bus which no sane person would do.
The zones just seem to move around every other week lately, this is the third time in just over a year now.
(27 Jan 2022, 6:01 pm)Storx Is it just me who thinks it would be easier to just have the £4 zones and price it as 1 zone £4, 2 zones £5.30, all zones £6. Similar to the Arriva triple ticket in Northumberland which is as simple as it can get.
Don't see the need of having 2 zones, especially the ridiculous Northumberland Zone up in Ashington. It serves no purpose unless someone want's to go on a magical mystery tout from Ashington to North Shields, the 310 to Newcastle then use another bus which no sane person would do.
The zones just seem to move around every other week lately, this is the third time in just over a year now.
(27 Jan 2022, 6:01 pm)Storx Is it just me who thinks it would be easier to just have the £4 zones and price it as 1 zone £4, 2 zones £5.30, all zones £6. Similar to the Arriva triple ticket in Northumberland which is as simple as it can get.
Don't see the need of having 2 zones, especially the ridiculous Northumberland Zone up in Ashington. It serves no purpose unless someone want's to go on a magical mystery tout from Ashington to North Shields, the 310 to Newcastle then use another bus which no sane person would do.
The zones just seem to move around every other week lately, this is the third time in just over a year now.
(27 Jan 2022, 6:01 pm)Storx Is it just me who thinks it would be easier to just have the £4 zones and price it as 1 zone £4, 2 zones £5.30, all zones £6. Similar to the Arriva triple ticket in Northumberland which is as simple as it can get.
Don't see the need of having 2 zones, especially the ridiculous Northumberland Zone up in Ashington. It serves no purpose unless someone want's to go on a magical mystery tout from Ashington to North Shields, the 310 to Newcastle then use another bus which no sane person would do.
The zones just seem to move around every other week lately, this is the third time in just over a year now.
(27 Jan 2022, 6:01 pm)Storx Is it just me who thinks it would be easier to just have the £4 zones and price it as 1 zone £4, 2 zones £5.30, all zones £6. Similar to the Arriva triple ticket in Northumberland which is as simple as it can get.
Don't see the need of having 2 zones, especially the ridiculous Northumberland Zone up in Ashington. It serves no purpose unless someone want's to go on a magical mystery tout from Ashington to North Shields, the 310 to Newcastle then use another bus which no sane person would do.
The zones just seem to move around every other week lately, this is the third time in just over a year now.
(27 Jan 2022, 6:16 pm)streetdeckfan Honestly, considering the negligible difference (a whole 70p!) between a single zone and an all zone ticket, I don't know why they didn't just scrap them all together and just go with a single day ticket that covers all routes!
(27 Jan 2022, 6:16 pm)streetdeckfan Honestly, considering the negligible difference (a whole 70p!) between a single zone and an all zone ticket, I don't know why they didn't just scrap them all together and just go with a single day ticket that covers all routes!
(27 Jan 2022, 6:16 pm)streetdeckfan Honestly, considering the negligible difference (a whole 70p!) between a single zone and an all zone ticket, I don't know why they didn't just scrap them all together and just go with a single day ticket that covers all routes!
(27 Jan 2022, 5:47 pm)Adrian The problem with Bournmoor not being in the Tyne and Wear zone, is that it creates an issue with the 4 route that it exits Tyne and Wear for 2 or 3 stops, then returns through Fencehouses and on to Houghton. I may be wrong, but I'd assume the travel habits of people there are more aligned with Shiney Row and Houghton than they are Chester-le-Street.
(27 Jan 2022, 5:47 pm)Adrian Agree with the Sunderland ticket names. Maybe Sunderland & District would have been better (and brand consistent), and would have distinguished between the two tickets better.
(27 Jan 2022, 5:47 pm)Adrian The problem with Bournmoor not being in the Tyne and Wear zone, is that it creates an issue with the 4 route that it exits Tyne and Wear for 2 or 3 stops, then returns through Fencehouses and on to Houghton. I may be wrong, but I'd assume the travel habits of people there are more aligned with Shiney Row and Houghton than they are Chester-le-Street.
(27 Jan 2022, 5:47 pm)Adrian Agree with the Sunderland ticket names. Maybe Sunderland & District would have been better (and brand consistent), and would have distinguished between the two tickets better.