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939
11 Jun 2022, 1:32 pm
(11 Jun 2022, 1:03 pm)ASX_Terranova Is this set in stone, bit disappointed about the 82, especially between Birtley and Washington
Nexus tender results still to be taken into account?
busmanT
11 Jun 2022, 1:32 pm #561

(11 Jun 2022, 1:03 pm)ASX_Terranova Is this set in stone, bit disappointed about the 82, especially between Birtley and Washington
Nexus tender results still to be taken into account?

11 Jun 2022, 3:03 pm
(11 Jun 2022, 1:32 pm)busmanT Nexus tender results still to be taken into account?

Yes Indeed…

I wonder if they will bolt something onto the 34 to allow Crew Changes in Washington covering some of the axed routes? 

Otherwise will be a lot of dead mileage?
gc802002
11 Jun 2022, 3:03 pm #562

(11 Jun 2022, 1:32 pm)busmanT Nexus tender results still to be taken into account?

Yes Indeed…

I wonder if they will bolt something onto the 34 to allow Crew Changes in Washington covering some of the axed routes? 

Otherwise will be a lot of dead mileage?

4662
11 Jun 2022, 3:05 pm
(11 Jun 2022, 3:03 pm)gc802002 Yes Indeed…

I wonder if they will bolt something onto the 34 to allow Crew Changes in Washington covering some of the axed routes? 

Otherwise will be a lot of dead mileage?

Can't really use the 34 as you'll either leave Ouston or Urpeth Grange without a bus service. It'll more likely be bolted onto the 23 if anything or maybe something merged with the 25 and the 23 removed altogether.

The 37 will no doubt be redirected at the other end of the route to cover Washington village with the 73 potentially scrapped altogether (it copies the 8 mostly anyway).

Nexus don't care about GNE's dead milage that's not their problem.
Storx
11 Jun 2022, 3:05 pm #563

(11 Jun 2022, 3:03 pm)gc802002 Yes Indeed…

I wonder if they will bolt something onto the 34 to allow Crew Changes in Washington covering some of the axed routes? 

Otherwise will be a lot of dead mileage?

Can't really use the 34 as you'll either leave Ouston or Urpeth Grange without a bus service. It'll more likely be bolted onto the 23 if anything or maybe something merged with the 25 and the 23 removed altogether.

The 37 will no doubt be redirected at the other end of the route to cover Washington village with the 73 potentially scrapped altogether (it copies the 8 mostly anyway).

Nexus don't care about GNE's dead milage that's not their problem.

10978
11 Jun 2022, 3:09 pm
(10 Jun 2022, 9:54 pm)Michael Changes on VOSA for the 24 July 2022:

Variation:

PB0003954/557
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 69 (69) Winlaton Wardley

This is an interesting one considering it was proposed to be cancelled outright in the consultation.
Jimmi
11 Jun 2022, 3:09 pm #564

(10 Jun 2022, 9:54 pm)Michael Changes on VOSA for the 24 July 2022:

Variation:

PB0003954/557
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 69 (69) Winlaton Wardley

This is an interesting one considering it was proposed to be cancelled outright in the consultation.

167
11 Jun 2022, 3:49 pm
(10 Jun 2022, 9:54 pm)Michael PB0003954/1101
Cancellation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 31 (31) Stanley Stanley

PB0003954/1207
Cancellation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 30 (30) Quaking Houses Stanley
I thought it was just the 30 being cancelled, not the 31 as well?
Jack Gill
11 Jun 2022, 3:49 pm #565

(10 Jun 2022, 9:54 pm)Michael PB0003954/1101
Cancellation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 31 (31) Stanley Stanley

PB0003954/1207
Cancellation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 30 (30) Quaking Houses Stanley
I thought it was just the 30 being cancelled, not the 31 as well?

564
11 Jun 2022, 3:58 pm
(11 Jun 2022, 3:09 pm)Jimmi This is an interesting one considering it was proposed to be cancelled outright in the consultation.

The 69B might be staying and the rest cancelled?
DeltaMan
11 Jun 2022, 3:58 pm #566

(11 Jun 2022, 3:09 pm)Jimmi This is an interesting one considering it was proposed to be cancelled outright in the consultation.

The 69B might be staying and the rest cancelled?

10978
11 Jun 2022, 4:00 pm
(11 Jun 2022, 3:49 pm)Jack Gill I thought it was just the 30 being cancelled, not the 31 as well?
Was no mention of the 31 being cancelled in the consultation... shysters...

I did wonder about the 31 considering it interworks with the outgoing 30.
Jimmi
11 Jun 2022, 4:00 pm #567

(11 Jun 2022, 3:49 pm)Jack Gill I thought it was just the 30 being cancelled, not the 31 as well?
Was no mention of the 31 being cancelled in the consultation... shysters...

I did wonder about the 31 considering it interworks with the outgoing 30.

167
11 Jun 2022, 4:01 pm
(11 Jun 2022, 4:00 pm)Jimmi Was no mention of the 31 being cancelled in the consultation... shysters...

I did wonder about the 31 considering it interworks with the outgoing 30.
Perhaps they could be making some sort of new route combining the both, not sure how that would work though.
Jack Gill
11 Jun 2022, 4:01 pm #568

(11 Jun 2022, 4:00 pm)Jimmi Was no mention of the 31 being cancelled in the consultation... shysters...

I did wonder about the 31 considering it interworks with the outgoing 30.
Perhaps they could be making some sort of new route combining the both, not sure how that would work though.

11 Jun 2022, 4:13 pm
Only 8 working days to consider almost 9,000 responses, then look again at the proposals, finalising them and registering them?

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Adrian
11 Jun 2022, 4:13 pm #569

Only 8 working days to consider almost 9,000 responses, then look again at the proposals, finalising them and registering them?


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471
11 Jun 2022, 4:35 pm
(11 Jun 2022, 4:13 pm)Adrian Only 8 working days to consider almost 9,000 responses, then look again at the proposals, finalising them and registering them?

not to be cynical, but I very much doubt that they read any of the responses.
Thomas12
11 Jun 2022, 4:35 pm #570

(11 Jun 2022, 4:13 pm)Adrian Only 8 working days to consider almost 9,000 responses, then look again at the proposals, finalising them and registering them?

not to be cynical, but I very much doubt that they read any of the responses.

3567
11 Jun 2022, 4:38 pm
(11 Jun 2022, 4:35 pm)Thomas12 not to be cynical, but I very much doubt that they read any of the responses.
I agree, they probably just sent the Changes to local authorities, and see what they would save.
Unber43
11 Jun 2022, 4:38 pm #571

(11 Jun 2022, 4:35 pm)Thomas12 not to be cynical, but I very much doubt that they read any of the responses.
I agree, they probably just sent the Changes to local authorities, and see what they would save.

14265
11 Jun 2022, 4:51 pm
(11 Jun 2022, 4:13 pm)Adrian Only 8 working days to consider almost 9,000 responses, then look again at the proposals, finalising them and registering them?
You old cynic you.
They will have gone through each and every one of them with a fine tooth comb, reflected on the content and adapted to suit.
But obviously they did it in record time with a dedicated team of 25.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
11 Jun 2022, 4:51 pm #572

(11 Jun 2022, 4:13 pm)Adrian Only 8 working days to consider almost 9,000 responses, then look again at the proposals, finalising them and registering them?
You old cynic you.
They will have gone through each and every one of them with a fine tooth comb, reflected on the content and adapted to suit.
But obviously they did it in record time with a dedicated team of 25.


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

471
11 Jun 2022, 6:06 pm
(11 Jun 2022, 4:38 pm)Unber43 I agree, they probably just sent the Changes to local authorities, and see what they would save.

Aye I would agree with you there.
Thomas12
11 Jun 2022, 6:06 pm #573

(11 Jun 2022, 4:38 pm)Unber43 I agree, they probably just sent the Changes to local authorities, and see what they would save.

Aye I would agree with you there.

Dan
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18131
11 Jun 2022, 6:54 pm
(11 Jun 2022, 4:00 pm)Jimmi Was no mention of the 31 being cancelled in the consultation... shysters...

I did wonder about the 31 considering it interworks with the outgoing 30.


The 31 is already a Durham County Council contract so it would not be withdrawn and this is why it wasn’t included in the consultation…


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Dan
11 Jun 2022, 6:54 pm #574

(11 Jun 2022, 4:00 pm)Jimmi Was no mention of the 31 being cancelled in the consultation... shysters...

I did wonder about the 31 considering it interworks with the outgoing 30.


The 31 is already a Durham County Council contract so it would not be withdrawn and this is why it wasn’t included in the consultation…


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11 Jun 2022, 8:15 pm
(11 Jun 2022, 6:54 pm)Dan The 31 is already a Durham County Council contract so it would not be withdrawn and this is why it wasn’t included in the consultation…


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Anyways isnt there a mentioned 16B around that area for the 30
KingSlayerRBLX
11 Jun 2022, 8:15 pm #575

(11 Jun 2022, 6:54 pm)Dan The 31 is already a Durham County Council contract so it would not be withdrawn and this is why it wasn’t included in the consultation…


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Anyways isnt there a mentioned 16B around that area for the 30

1928
11 Jun 2022, 8:28 pm
(11 Jun 2022, 4:35 pm)Thomas12 not to be cynical, but I very much doubt that they read any of the responses.

That’s incorrect
LeeCalder
11 Jun 2022, 8:28 pm #576

(11 Jun 2022, 4:35 pm)Thomas12 not to be cynical, but I very much doubt that they read any of the responses.

That’s incorrect

1866
11 Jun 2022, 9:21 pm
(11 Jun 2022, 8:28 pm)LeeCalder That’s incorrect
I’m sure as a customer advisor you’re told how important the process is and you’ve clearly drank the kool aid but it’s not feasible to have read, properly process and analyse 9000 or so bits of data in the timeframe to meet VOSA.

A quick glance and cursive nods yes….proper data analysis, unless it was outsourced (and even then to a top and very expensive company) absolutely not.

Wistfully stuck in the 90s
Ambassador
11 Jun 2022, 9:21 pm #577

(11 Jun 2022, 8:28 pm)LeeCalder That’s incorrect
I’m sure as a customer advisor you’re told how important the process is and you’ve clearly drank the kool aid but it’s not feasible to have read, properly process and analyse 9000 or so bits of data in the timeframe to meet VOSA.

A quick glance and cursive nods yes….proper data analysis, unless it was outsourced (and even then to a top and very expensive company) absolutely not.


Wistfully stuck in the 90s

243
11 Jun 2022, 9:45 pm
(11 Jun 2022, 9:21 pm)Ambassador I’m sure as a customer advisor you’re told how important the process is and you’ve clearly drank the kool aid but it’s not feasible to have read, properly process and analyse 9000 or so bits of data in the timeframe to meet VOSA.

A quick glance and cursive nods yes….proper data analysis, unless it was outsourced (and even then to a top and very expensive company) absolutely not.
Wonder if the data was being read and processed as it came in and not just after it closed, common themes would have appeared and have been easy to put together, the consultation forms would have been instantly available to process as soon as they were submitted, we are not talking about waiting for the postman to bring them all at once, im sure that a lot of this process was aimed at getting more services secured and still having services serving all areas all be it maybe under a different route, we will find out soon enough what the outcome is
N1cholas
11 Jun 2022, 9:45 pm #578

(11 Jun 2022, 9:21 pm)Ambassador I’m sure as a customer advisor you’re told how important the process is and you’ve clearly drank the kool aid but it’s not feasible to have read, properly process and analyse 9000 or so bits of data in the timeframe to meet VOSA.

A quick glance and cursive nods yes….proper data analysis, unless it was outsourced (and even then to a top and very expensive company) absolutely not.
Wonder if the data was being read and processed as it came in and not just after it closed, common themes would have appeared and have been easy to put together, the consultation forms would have been instantly available to process as soon as they were submitted, we are not talking about waiting for the postman to bring them all at once, im sure that a lot of this process was aimed at getting more services secured and still having services serving all areas all be it maybe under a different route, we will find out soon enough what the outcome is

1928
11 Jun 2022, 9:46 pm
(11 Jun 2022, 9:21 pm)Ambassador I’m sure as a customer advisor you’re told how important the process is and you’ve clearly drank the kool aid but it’s not feasible to have read, properly process and analyse 9000 or so bits of data in the timeframe to meet VOSA.

A quick glance and cursive nods yes….proper data analysis, unless it was outsourced (and even then to a top and very expensive company) absolutely not.

I'm more than aware of how important the process is, and how the data was processed.

Your patronising tone might appeal to some, but your comments aren't necessarily accurate.
LeeCalder
11 Jun 2022, 9:46 pm #579

(11 Jun 2022, 9:21 pm)Ambassador I’m sure as a customer advisor you’re told how important the process is and you’ve clearly drank the kool aid but it’s not feasible to have read, properly process and analyse 9000 or so bits of data in the timeframe to meet VOSA.

A quick glance and cursive nods yes….proper data analysis, unless it was outsourced (and even then to a top and very expensive company) absolutely not.

I'm more than aware of how important the process is, and how the data was processed.

Your patronising tone might appeal to some, but your comments aren't necessarily accurate.

Dan
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18131
11 Jun 2022, 9:52 pm
(11 Jun 2022, 9:21 pm)Ambassador I’m sure as a customer advisor you’re told how important the process is and you’ve clearly drank the kool aid but it’s not feasible to have read, properly process and analyse 9000 or so bits of data in the timeframe to meet VOSA.

A quick glance and cursive nods yes….proper data analysis, unless it was outsourced (and even then to a top and very expensive company) absolutely not.


…or the registrations had to be submitted in the normal timeframes and adjustments will be made (with short notice amendments agreed by local authority) accordingly based on the consultation responses.

Just a thought.

But, let’s face it, a good 80% of the responses would have been “don’t withdraw the 82”, “don’t withdraw the 25”, “don’t withdraw the 28” and similar… and in reality these services were always going to remain in some form, albeit with financial support and perhaps with Go North East not as the operator.

Actual responses with specific details of journeys, times and genuine suggestions would have been few and far between.


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Dan
11 Jun 2022, 9:52 pm #580

(11 Jun 2022, 9:21 pm)Ambassador I’m sure as a customer advisor you’re told how important the process is and you’ve clearly drank the kool aid but it’s not feasible to have read, properly process and analyse 9000 or so bits of data in the timeframe to meet VOSA.

A quick glance and cursive nods yes….proper data analysis, unless it was outsourced (and even then to a top and very expensive company) absolutely not.


…or the registrations had to be submitted in the normal timeframes and adjustments will be made (with short notice amendments agreed by local authority) accordingly based on the consultation responses.

Just a thought.

But, let’s face it, a good 80% of the responses would have been “don’t withdraw the 82”, “don’t withdraw the 25”, “don’t withdraw the 28” and similar… and in reality these services were always going to remain in some form, albeit with financial support and perhaps with Go North East not as the operator.

Actual responses with specific details of journeys, times and genuine suggestions would have been few and far between.


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