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peter



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14 Aug 2022, 11:22 am #881
(14 Aug 2022, 11:13 am)Unber43 WEll Deptford currently doesn't have many spares, 8339-46 would be desperately needed if they will draw all the Mercedes bar X20/Violet

I suppose really you could stick 8339-46 on the 35 and withdraw 5290-92/94-97/5304. Then stick 8307/8/9 on the 34, 8310-13 on the 41/41A and send 8314-8318 to replace 5286/7/8 (assuming 5285 is there as cover for the off-road citaro's) plus 5323-24 leaving 5325/6 as spares for the X20/61.
peter
14 Aug 2022, 11:22 am #881

(14 Aug 2022, 11:13 am)Unber43 WEll Deptford currently doesn't have many spares, 8339-46 would be desperately needed if they will draw all the Mercedes bar X20/Violet

I suppose really you could stick 8339-46 on the 35 and withdraw 5290-92/94-97/5304. Then stick 8307/8/9 on the 34, 8310-13 on the 41/41A and send 8314-8318 to replace 5286/7/8 (assuming 5285 is there as cover for the off-road citaro's) plus 5323-24 leaving 5325/6 as spares for the X20/61.

Unber43



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14 Aug 2022, 11:27 am #882
(14 Aug 2022, 11:22 am)peter I suppose really you could stick 8339-46 on the 35 and withdraw 5290-92/94-97/5304. Then stick 8307/8/9 on the 34, 8310-13 on the 41/41A and send 8314-8318 to replace 5286/7/8 (assuming 5285 is there as cover for the off-road citaro's) plus 5323-24 leaving 5325/6 as spares for the X20/61.
I think 5324/26 have been off for nearly 3 weeks. 

I wonder if they'll refurbish 8339-46.
Unber43
14 Aug 2022, 11:27 am #882

(14 Aug 2022, 11:22 am)peter I suppose really you could stick 8339-46 on the 35 and withdraw 5290-92/94-97/5304. Then stick 8307/8/9 on the 34, 8310-13 on the 41/41A and send 8314-8318 to replace 5286/7/8 (assuming 5285 is there as cover for the off-road citaro's) plus 5323-24 leaving 5325/6 as spares for the X20/61.
I think 5324/26 have been off for nearly 3 weeks. 

I wonder if they'll refurbish 8339-46.

Dan

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14 Aug 2022, 11:32 am #883
(14 Aug 2022, 11:27 am)Unber43 I think 5324/26 have been off for nearly 3 weeks. 

I wonder if they'll refurbish 8339-46.


5324 and 5326 were withdrawn a few weeks ago.


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Dan
14 Aug 2022, 11:32 am #883

(14 Aug 2022, 11:27 am)Unber43 I think 5324/26 have been off for nearly 3 weeks. 

I wonder if they'll refurbish 8339-46.


5324 and 5326 were withdrawn a few weeks ago.


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peter



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14 Aug 2022, 11:37 am #884
(14 Aug 2022, 11:32 am)Dan 5324 and 5326 were withdrawn a few weeks ago.


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Ah okay thanks Dan, can you confirm which other vehicles were withdrawn as a result of the 24th July changes?
peter
14 Aug 2022, 11:37 am #884

(14 Aug 2022, 11:32 am)Dan 5324 and 5326 were withdrawn a few weeks ago.


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Ah okay thanks Dan, can you confirm which other vehicles were withdrawn as a result of the 24th July changes?

Storx



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14 Aug 2022, 11:48 am #885
(14 Aug 2022, 11:22 am)peter I suppose really you could stick 8339-46 on the 35 and withdraw 5290-92/94-97/5304. Then stick 8307/8/9 on the 34, 8310-13 on the 41/41A and send 8314-8318 to replace 5286/7/8 (assuming 5285 is there as cover for the off-road citaro's) plus 5323-24 leaving 5325/6 as spares for the X20/61.

I know it goes against what I said yesterday about Euro 6 and Gateshead but now thinking about it I think we might see something like

5377 - 5390, X20 / 61 / Spares (Deptford Based)
8310 - 8318, 35 / 35A (Deptford Based)
8339 - 8346, 49 / 49A (Riverside Based)
5445 - 5469, 6 / 12 / 34 / Hexham (Consett Based)
Streetdecks, 57 / 58 (Riverside Based)
Newer Solos, 19 / 41 / 41A (Percy Main Based)

Would mean you'd have fleets kept together rather than loads of micro fleets with all Versa's at Deptford / Washington and Consett and Riverside only having Streetlite's and the B7RLE's as singles.

Everyone get's an upgrade on what they've got currently.
Storx
14 Aug 2022, 11:48 am #885

(14 Aug 2022, 11:22 am)peter I suppose really you could stick 8339-46 on the 35 and withdraw 5290-92/94-97/5304. Then stick 8307/8/9 on the 34, 8310-13 on the 41/41A and send 8314-8318 to replace 5286/7/8 (assuming 5285 is there as cover for the off-road citaro's) plus 5323-24 leaving 5325/6 as spares for the X20/61.

I know it goes against what I said yesterday about Euro 6 and Gateshead but now thinking about it I think we might see something like

5377 - 5390, X20 / 61 / Spares (Deptford Based)
8310 - 8318, 35 / 35A (Deptford Based)
8339 - 8346, 49 / 49A (Riverside Based)
5445 - 5469, 6 / 12 / 34 / Hexham (Consett Based)
Streetdecks, 57 / 58 (Riverside Based)
Newer Solos, 19 / 41 / 41A (Percy Main Based)

Would mean you'd have fleets kept together rather than loads of micro fleets with all Versa's at Deptford / Washington and Consett and Riverside only having Streetlite's and the B7RLE's as singles.

Everyone get's an upgrade on what they've got currently.

Malarkey



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14 Aug 2022, 7:28 pm #886
(14 Aug 2022, 11:32 am)Dan 5324 and 5326 were withdrawn a few weeks ago.


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Sad times seeing these former "Silver Arrows" Mercs getting withdrawn.
Malarkey
14 Aug 2022, 7:28 pm #886

(14 Aug 2022, 11:32 am)Dan 5324 and 5326 were withdrawn a few weeks ago.


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Sad times seeing these former "Silver Arrows" Mercs getting withdrawn.

Duraidfoy

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14 Aug 2022, 10:52 pm #887
(14 Aug 2022, 11:32 am)Dan 5324 and 5326 were withdrawn a few weeks ago.


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Why are 5324 and 26 withdrawn you could have painted them into cherry for the 35 

5284 and 85 I never liked anyways
Duraidfoy
14 Aug 2022, 10:52 pm #887

(14 Aug 2022, 11:32 am)Dan 5324 and 5326 were withdrawn a few weeks ago.


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Why are 5324 and 26 withdrawn you could have painted them into cherry for the 35 

5284 and 85 I never liked anyways

Dan

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15 Aug 2022, 5:40 am #888
(14 Aug 2022, 10:52 pm)Duraidfoy Why are 5324 and 26 withdrawn you could have painted them into cherry for the 35 

5284 and 85 I never liked anyways


Because they aren’t needed - Deptford have newer buses available.


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Dan
15 Aug 2022, 5:40 am #888

(14 Aug 2022, 10:52 pm)Duraidfoy Why are 5324 and 26 withdrawn you could have painted them into cherry for the 35 

5284 and 85 I never liked anyways


Because they aren’t needed - Deptford have newer buses available.


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24 Aug 2022, 10:38 am #889
Given that the X66 just goes via Askew road in both directions now, is it possible it could get upgraded to deckers?

Two in a row from Gateshead have been absolutely packed to the point where I just jumped on an empty 49 so I wouldn't have to sit next to someone, even if it takes an extra 10 minutes.

Plus, the Versas are much nicer than what they have on the X66!

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streetdeckfan
24 Aug 2022, 10:38 am #889

Given that the X66 just goes via Askew road in both directions now, is it possible it could get upgraded to deckers?

Two in a row from Gateshead have been absolutely packed to the point where I just jumped on an empty 49 so I wouldn't have to sit next to someone, even if it takes an extra 10 minutes.

Plus, the Versas are much nicer than what they have on the X66!

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ne14ne1



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24 Aug 2022, 11:53 am #890
(24 Aug 2022, 10:38 am)streetdeckfan Given that the X66 just goes via Askew road in both directions now, is it possible it could get upgraded to deckers?

Two in a row from Gateshead have been absolutely packed to the point where I just jumped on an empty 49 so I wouldn't have to sit next to someone, even if it takes an extra 10 minutes.

Plus, the Versas are much nicer than what they have on the X66!

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Several eastbound trips have been using the Riverside Busway again now that the Rabbit Banks Slip has reopened following the completion of building works.
ne14ne1
24 Aug 2022, 11:53 am #890

(24 Aug 2022, 10:38 am)streetdeckfan Given that the X66 just goes via Askew road in both directions now, is it possible it could get upgraded to deckers?

Two in a row from Gateshead have been absolutely packed to the point where I just jumped on an empty 49 so I wouldn't have to sit next to someone, even if it takes an extra 10 minutes.

Plus, the Versas are much nicer than what they have on the X66!

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Several eastbound trips have been using the Riverside Busway again now that the Rabbit Banks Slip has reopened following the completion of building works.

morritt89



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05 Sep 2022, 7:55 am #891
Back at work this morning (Deptford) and a few changes from what I've seen (some previously noted elsewhere):

Lothian Voyager B9s all (?) now at Deptford

3942 has joined sister 3943 (will 3941 be joining them)?

Mercedes 5325 is still in use - I thought these were withdrawn?

7128 was the only coach present (still with X11 branding). Will 7132 and 7157 be returning?
morritt89
05 Sep 2022, 7:55 am #891

Back at work this morning (Deptford) and a few changes from what I've seen (some previously noted elsewhere):

Lothian Voyager B9s all (?) now at Deptford

3942 has joined sister 3943 (will 3941 be joining them)?

Mercedes 5325 is still in use - I thought these were withdrawn?

7128 was the only coach present (still with X11 branding). Will 7132 and 7157 be returning?

05 Sep 2022, 8:37 am #892
(05 Sep 2022, 7:55 am)morritt89 Back at work this morning (Deptford) and a few changes from what I've seen (some previously noted elsewhere):

Lothian Voyager B9s all (?) now at Deptford

3942 has joined sister 3943 (will 3941 be joining them)?

Mercedes 5325 is still in use - I thought these were withdrawn?

7128 was the only coach present (still with X11 branding). Will 7132 and 7157 be returning?
Versas 8320-29 also at Deptford
Retro Nero
05 Sep 2022, 8:37 am #892

(05 Sep 2022, 7:55 am)morritt89 Back at work this morning (Deptford) and a few changes from what I've seen (some previously noted elsewhere):

Lothian Voyager B9s all (?) now at Deptford

3942 has joined sister 3943 (will 3941 be joining them)?

Mercedes 5325 is still in use - I thought these were withdrawn?

7128 was the only coach present (still with X11 branding). Will 7132 and 7157 be returning?
Versas 8320-29 also at Deptford

nova347



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05 Sep 2022, 8:43 am #893
(05 Sep 2022, 8:37 am)Retro Nero Versas 8320-29 also at Deptford
They're all if not most of them Euro 6, I would argue Depford only needs 1 or 2 more Euro 6 dedicated spares for 56. Whereas Percy Main needs a lot of Euro 6 vehicles as every day there are 4/5/6 if not more non-euro 6 vehicles on routes that lead into Newcastle. Why don't they just keep the current older deckers that they have for school routes and use them until they're uneconomical for repair and keep some of the Euro 6 deckers in reserve at Depots such as Washington, Depford, Percy Main, Consett and even Riverside as dedicated spares for routes that require Euro 6 vehicles.
nova347
05 Sep 2022, 8:43 am #893

(05 Sep 2022, 8:37 am)Retro Nero Versas 8320-29 also at Deptford
They're all if not most of them Euro 6, I would argue Depford only needs 1 or 2 more Euro 6 dedicated spares for 56. Whereas Percy Main needs a lot of Euro 6 vehicles as every day there are 4/5/6 if not more non-euro 6 vehicles on routes that lead into Newcastle. Why don't they just keep the current older deckers that they have for school routes and use them until they're uneconomical for repair and keep some of the Euro 6 deckers in reserve at Depots such as Washington, Depford, Percy Main, Consett and even Riverside as dedicated spares for routes that require Euro 6 vehicles.

09 Sep 2022, 12:41 pm #894
Not speculating, but 6331-3/56-63 would surely fit the TVT10/12 with simple change to text on 6332/56-63. A very good upgrade which might keep patronage high..
54APhotography
09 Sep 2022, 12:41 pm #894

Not speculating, but 6331-3/56-63 would surely fit the TVT10/12 with simple change to text on 6332/56-63. A very good upgrade which might keep patronage high..

Malarkey



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09 Sep 2022, 9:20 pm #895
(09 Sep 2022, 12:41 pm)54APhotography Not speculating, but 6331-3/56-63 would surely fit the TVT10/12 with simple change to text on 6332/56-63. A very good upgrade which might keep patronage high..

I could see the former X-Lines X45/X46 Streetdecks going on 58 with the Ex-London B9's taking a spare role in the fleet.
Malarkey
09 Sep 2022, 9:20 pm #895

(09 Sep 2022, 12:41 pm)54APhotography Not speculating, but 6331-3/56-63 would surely fit the TVT10/12 with simple change to text on 6332/56-63. A very good upgrade which might keep patronage high..

I could see the former X-Lines X45/X46 Streetdecks going on 58 with the Ex-London B9's taking a spare role in the fleet.

10 Sep 2022, 7:01 am #896
(09 Sep 2022, 12:41 pm)54APhotography Not speculating, but 6331-3/56-63 would surely fit the TVT10/12 with simple change to text on 6332/56-63. A very good upgrade which might keep patronage high..
 I live on the 10/10B route and there does seem to be a bit of a buzz about the Green X-lines on there. A mate I was with the other night when one went past who is no way a bus fan was like 'that's the nice one with the tables'. Also living on the route I would be a fan of the streetdecks moving to the route as they are much nicer buses.
michaelb
10 Sep 2022, 7:01 am #896

(09 Sep 2022, 12:41 pm)54APhotography Not speculating, but 6331-3/56-63 would surely fit the TVT10/12 with simple change to text on 6332/56-63. A very good upgrade which might keep patronage high..
 I live on the 10/10B route and there does seem to be a bit of a buzz about the Green X-lines on there. A mate I was with the other night when one went past who is no way a bus fan was like 'that's the nice one with the tables'. Also living on the route I would be a fan of the streetdecks moving to the route as they are much nicer buses.

10 Sep 2022, 7:09 am #897
(09 Sep 2022, 9:20 pm)Malarkey I could see the former X-Lines X45/X46 Streetdecks going on 58 with the Ex-London B9's taking a spare role in the fleet.
Maybe in 8/9 years after they've been retrimmed as standard, but a bit OTT for a heavy commuter run....
54APhotography
10 Sep 2022, 7:09 am #897

(09 Sep 2022, 9:20 pm)Malarkey I could see the former X-Lines X45/X46 Streetdecks going on 58 with the Ex-London B9's taking a spare role in the fleet.
Maybe in 8/9 years after they've been retrimmed as standard, but a bit OTT for a heavy commuter run....

cbma06



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10 Sep 2022, 8:15 am #898
(09 Sep 2022, 12:41 pm)54APhotography Not speculating, but 6331-3/56-63 would surely fit the TVT10/12 with simple change to text on 6332/56-63. A very good upgrade which might keep patronage high..


What will happen when the consett xlines services frequency start to increase again, would there paint those spares xlines buses into the TVT and then back to Xlines?


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cbma06
10 Sep 2022, 8:15 am #898

(09 Sep 2022, 12:41 pm)54APhotography Not speculating, but 6331-3/56-63 would surely fit the TVT10/12 with simple change to text on 6332/56-63. A very good upgrade which might keep patronage high..


What will happen when the consett xlines services frequency start to increase again, would there paint those spares xlines buses into the TVT and then back to Xlines?


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10 Sep 2022, 8:29 am #899
(10 Sep 2022, 8:15 am)cbma06 What will happen when the consett xlines services frequency start to increase again, would there paint those spares xlines buses into the TVT and then back to Xlines?


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The way things are with bus usage who is to say they will increase.. Wasn't proposing a livery change, just lettering.
54APhotography
10 Sep 2022, 8:29 am #899

(10 Sep 2022, 8:15 am)cbma06 What will happen when the consett xlines services frequency start to increase again, would there paint those spares xlines buses into the TVT and then back to Xlines?


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The way things are with bus usage who is to say they will increase.. Wasn't proposing a livery change, just lettering.

Unber43



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10 Sep 2022, 8:58 am #900
(10 Sep 2022, 8:15 am)cbma06 What will happen when the consett xlines services frequency start to increase again, would there paint those spares xlines buses into the TVT and then back to Xlines?


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Something needs to be done about them, X45 every 20 mins and longer layovers.
Unber43
10 Sep 2022, 8:58 am #900

(10 Sep 2022, 8:15 am)cbma06 What will happen when the consett xlines services frequency start to increase again, would there paint those spares xlines buses into the TVT and then back to Xlines?


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Something needs to be done about them, X45 every 20 mins and longer layovers.

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