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streetdeckfan

4,709

21 Nov 2022, 1:14 am #2,641

(21 Nov 2022, 1:03 am)ALavery have you seen the state of the low height streetdecks? ?

Yes, they look like they've just chopped the top off, they look ridiculous!

I'm fine with them ordering E400s, they're fine enough buses, but they shouldn't have ordered low height versions when they weren't needed. It just impacts on the passenger experience for no reason.

Plus, as I've said before, the fact 6337 fits under the bridge at Dunston shows they didn't even need to be ordered that low.

streetdeckfan

21 Nov 2022, 1:14 am #2,641

(21 Nov 2022, 1:03 am)ALavery have you seen the state of the low height streetdecks? ?

ASX_Terranova

933

21 Nov 2022, 7:51 pm #2,642

New Service 17: Stanley, East Stanley, Beamish, West Pelton, Grange Villa, Edmondsley, Sacriston, Arnison Centre, Framwellgate Moor, Durham.

Would Serve Stanley Hall, Sheridan Drive & Acton Dene Replacing DCC 31.

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ASX_Terranova

21 Nov 2022, 7:51 pm #2,642

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ASX_Terranova

933

30 Nov 2022, 4:03 pm #2,643

New Service Idea
Northside Estate, Birtley, Portobello, Barley Mow, North Lodge, Chester-Le-Street, Waldridge Park.

Would Replace TB14 (Except Birtley - Kibblesworth), 701D & 702D

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ASX_Terranova

30 Nov 2022, 4:03 pm #2,643

New Service Idea
Northside Estate, Birtley, Portobello, Barley Mow, North Lodge, Chester-Le-Street, Waldridge Park.

Would Replace TB14 (Except Birtley - Kibblesworth), 701D & 702D

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V514DFT

2,251

30 Nov 2022, 6:03 pm #2,644

I'd drop the TB off of the TB14 and just have it numbered 14

Kind Regards
Tez

V514DFT

30 Nov 2022, 6:03 pm #2,644

I'd drop the TB off of the TB14 and just have it numbered 14

Kind Regards
Tez

Storx

4,623

30 Nov 2022, 6:44 pm #2,645

(30 Nov 2022, 6:03 pm)V514DFT I'd drop the TB off of the TB14 and just have it numbered 14

It's ran by a taxi, hence the TB - stands for Taxi Bus

https://www.renaultgroup.com/en/news-on-...-bus-2019/ - Those run them.

There'd be some very confused passengers if they didn't know.

Storx

30 Nov 2022, 6:44 pm #2,645

(30 Nov 2022, 6:03 pm)V514DFT I'd drop the TB off of the TB14 and just have it numbered 14

It's ran by a taxi, hence the TB - stands for Taxi Bus

https://www.renaultgroup.com/en/news-on-...-bus-2019/ - Those run them.

There'd be some very confused passengers if they didn't know.

ASX_Terranova

933

01 Dec 2022, 12:29 pm #2,646

Heres a new idea

Service 65 (Hourly)
Perkinsville, Pelton, Hilda Park, Chester-Le-Street, Pelton Fell, Blackhouse, Holmside, Burnhope, Maiden Law, Lanchester, Cornsay Colliery.
I've numbered it 65, but change it if you would leave the Seaham - Durham 65 as currently.

Would be allocated something that has the turning circle of a medium-sized van, due to tightish turn arounds at both Perkinsville & Cornsay Colliery.

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ASX_Terranova

01 Dec 2022, 12:29 pm #2,646

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Unber43

3,566

01 Dec 2022, 12:41 pm #2,647

(01 Dec 2022, 12:29 pm)ASX_Terranova Heres a new idea

Service 65 (Hourly)
Perkinsville, Pelton, Hilda Park, Chester-Le-Street, Pelton Fell, Blackhouse, Holmside, Burnhope, Maiden Law, Lanchester, Cornsay Colliery.
I've numbered it 65, but change it if you would leave the Seaham - Durham 65 as currently.

Would be allocated something that has the turning circle of a medium-sized van, due to tightish turn arounds at both Perkinsville & Cornsay Colliery.

I would extend it to Esh Winning or Durham to turn around easier, also just take it the other way around Ouston from the way the 34 goes.

Also best to name it the 22 imo or 30.

Unber43

01 Dec 2022, 12:41 pm #2,647

(01 Dec 2022, 12:29 pm)ASX_Terranova Heres a new idea

Service 65 (Hourly)
Perkinsville, Pelton, Hilda Park, Chester-Le-Street, Pelton Fell, Blackhouse, Holmside, Burnhope, Maiden Law, Lanchester, Cornsay Colliery.
I've numbered it 65, but change it if you would leave the Seaham - Durham 65 as currently.

Would be allocated something that has the turning circle of a medium-sized van, due to tightish turn arounds at both Perkinsville & Cornsay Colliery.

I would extend it to Esh Winning or Durham to turn around easier, also just take it the other way around Ouston from the way the 34 goes.

Also best to name it the 22 imo or 30.

V514DFT

2,251

01 Dec 2022, 7:52 pm #2,648

(30 Nov 2022, 6:44 pm)Storx It's ran by a taxi, hence the TB - stands for Taxi Bus

https://www.renaultgroup.com/en/news-on-...-bus-2019/ - Those run them.

There'd be some very confused passengers if they didn't know.

Yeah i know

Kind Regards
Tez

V514DFT

01 Dec 2022, 7:52 pm #2,648

(30 Nov 2022, 6:44 pm)Storx It's ran by a taxi, hence the TB - stands for Taxi Bus

https://www.renaultgroup.com/en/news-on-...-bus-2019/ - Those run them.

There'd be some very confused passengers if they didn't know.

Yeah i know

Kind Regards
Tez

Unber43

3,566

04 Dec 2022, 10:42 pm #2,649

55 - Doxford Park - Sunderland - Fulwell - Seaburn - Whitburn - Cleadon - East Boldon - Nissan - Concord - Follingsby (direct) - Heworth - Newcastle

X55 - Sunderland - Farringdon - East Herrington - Moorside - Doxford Park - A19 - Heworth - Gateshead - Newcastle

(Peak X55 via Follingsby)

Unber43

04 Dec 2022, 10:42 pm #2,649

V514DFT

2,251

04 Dec 2022, 11:10 pm #2,650

(04 Dec 2022, 10:42 pm)Unber43 55 - Doxford Park - Sunderland - Fulwell - Seaburn - Whitburn - Cleadon - East Boldon - Nissan - Concord - Follingsby (direct) - Heworth - Newcast

Newcast?, is that Newcastles not so popular brother

Kind Regards
Tez

V514DFT

04 Dec 2022, 11:10 pm #2,650

(04 Dec 2022, 10:42 pm)Unber43 55 - Doxford Park - Sunderland - Fulwell - Seaburn - Whitburn - Cleadon - East Boldon - Nissan - Concord - Follingsby (direct) - Heworth - Newcast

Newcast?, is that Newcastles not so popular brother

Kind Regards
Tez

Unber43

3,566

10 Dec 2022, 9:38 pm #2,651

(deleted the previous one as it duplicated it)The traffic on the A1 slip road of people coming from Washington is something GNE should be dealing with/looking to run routes in that area, where ever they are going, a lot presumably airport, metrocentre, Team Valley

Unber43

10 Dec 2022, 9:38 pm #2,651

ASX_Terranova

933

11 Dec 2022, 4:46 pm #2,652

New Service 1: Newcastle, Gateshead, Q.E Hospital, Wrekenton, Springwell Estate, Springwell Village, Ayton, Lambton, The Galleries, Biddick, Fatfield, Shiney Row, Success, Fence Houses, Rainton Bridge, Hetton-Le-Hole, Low Moorsley.

Existing 1 Renumbered to 301.
Would operate Same as X1 (Newcastle to Wrekenton), then all stops to Low Moorsley.

I would also add more 2/2A's, 4's and 50's as they can get very busy.

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ASX_Terranova

11 Dec 2022, 4:46 pm #2,652

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Unber43

3,566

11 Dec 2022, 10:12 pm #2,653

Red Arrow X1|X1A
X1 - Newcastle - Gateshead - QEH - Washington Galleries - Houghton - Hetton-Le-Hole - Easington Lane (every 30 mins)
X1 - Newcastle - Gateshead - QEH - Washington Galleries - Houghton - Hetton-Le-Hole - Easington Lane - Peterlee - 209 Route (every 60 mins)
X1A - Newcastle - Gateshead - QEH - Washington Galleries - Houghton - Hetton-Le-Hole - Easington Lane - Peterlee - 210 Route (every 60 mins)

Silver Arrows 2|3|X2|X3
2 - Sunderland - Royal Hospital - Pennywell - Hastings Hill - Harraton - Lambton - Washington Galleries - Parkway - Bradley Square - Concord - Usworth - Coach Road Estate - B&Q - Oxclose - Washington Galleries - Biddick - Grindon - Hylton - Royal Hospital - Sunderland (every 30 mins)
3 - Sunderland - Royal Hospital - Hylton - Grindon - Biddick - Washington Galleries - Oxclose - B&Q - Coach Road Estate - Usworth - Concord - Bradley Square - Parkway - Washington Galleries - Biddick - Grindon - Hylton - Royal Hospital - Sunderland (every 30 mins)
X2 Sunderland - Royal Hospital - Penshaw - Shiney Row - A183 - A182 - Washington Galleries - Blackworth - Heworth - Newcastle (every 30 mins)
X3 Sunderland - A690 - Farringdon - A19 - A1231 - Washington - A1 - Team Valley - Gateshead - Newcastle (every 60 mins)

Connections 4|4A/|4
X4 - Sunderland - Ryhope - Silksworth - Moorside - Hall Farm - Doxford Park - Follingsby - Heworth - Gateshead - Newcastle (every 30 mins)
4 - Heworth - Concord - Washington - Houghton Le Spring - Doxford Park - Farringdon - Gilley Law - Sunderland (every 30 mins)
4A - Heworth - Concord - Washington - Houghton Le Spring - Doxford Park - Ryhope - Sunderland (replace the 39A) (every 30 mins)

County Ranger 8|8A
8 - Stanley - Chester-Le-Street - Washington - Sunderland (every 60 mins)
8A - Stanley - Chester-Le-Street - Washington - Hylton Castle - Red House - Sunderland (every 60 mins)

Prince Bishop 20|20A|X20
20 - Sunderland - Farringdon - East Herrington - Houghton - East Rainton - West Rainton - Durham - Ushaw Moor (every 30 mins)
20A - Sunderland - Thorney Close - Newbottle - Houghton - Rainton Bridge - East Rainton - West Rainton - Durham - Bowburn (every 30 mins)
X20 - Sunderland - A690 - Doxford Park (Peak) - Houghton - A690 - Durham - Arnison Centre - Sacriston - Witton Gilbert - Langley Park (every 30 mins)

Angel 21
21 - Newcastle - Gateshead - Low Fell - Chester-Le-Street (every 60 mins)
21 - Newcastle - Gateshead - Low Fell - Chester-Le-Street - Waldridge Park (every 60 mins)
21 - Newcastle - Gateshead - Low Fell - Chester-Le-Street - Ouston (every 60 mins)
21 - Newcastle - Gateshead - Low Fell - Chester-Le-Street - Great Lumley - Houghton - Seaham (every 60 mins) [71 Withdrawn]
21 - Newcastle - Gateshead - Low Fell - Chester-Le-Street - Arnison Centre - Durham - Bowburn (every 30 mins)

Angel 22
22 - Newcastle - Gateshead - Team Valley - Birtley - Chester-Le-Street - Durham - Brandon (every 30 mins)

South Tyneside Connect
24 - Sunderland - Cleadon - South Shields (every 15 mins)
24A - Sunderland - Roker - Fulwell - Whitburn - Marsden - Horsey Hill - South Shields (every 20 mins)
26 - South Shields - South Tyneside Hospital - Jarrow - Hebburn - Lukes Lane (every 30 mins)
23 - Jarrow - Boldon - East Boldon - Cleadon - Chichester - South Shields (every 30 mins)

35|36
35 - Low Moorsley - Hetton-Le-Hole - Philadelphia - Penshaw - Grindon - Thorney Close - Royal Hospital - Sunderland (every 30 mins)
36 - South Hetton - Easington Lane - A690 - Houghton-Le-Spring - B1404 - Hall Farm - Doxford Park - Sunderland (every 30 mins)

Orbit 37|38
37 - Sunderland - Royal Hospital - Pennywell - Hylton Road - Ford Estate - Pallion - Sunderland (every 15 mins)
38 - Sunderland - Pallion - Ford Estate - Hylton Road - Pennywell - Royal Hospital - Sunderland (every 15 mins)

Doxford Park Clipper 39|40
39 - Sunderland - Grangetown - Silksworth - Doxford Park (every 30 mins)
40 - Sunderland - Grangetown - Hollycarrside - Hollycarrside Drive - Silksworth - Doxford Park (every 30 mins) (Optare Solo)

Simplicity 41|42
41 - Sunderland - Toward Road - Queen Alexandra Road - Leechmere Asda - Silksworth - A690 - Sunderland (every 30 mins)
42 - Sunderland - A690 - Silksworth - Leechmere Asda - Queen Alexandra Road - Toward Road - Sunderland (every 30 mins)

Wear Ranger 55|55A
55 - Doxford Park - Royal Hospital - Sunderland - High Southwick - Witherwack - Red House - Downhill - Town House Farm - Follingsby - Heworth (every 30 mins)
55A - Sunderland - Castletown - Southwick - Bolden (every 30 mins)

Drifter (Purple) 61
61 - Murton - Dalton Park - New Seaham - Queen Alexandra Road - The Cedars - Sunderland (every 30 mins)

Drifter (Dark Blue) 62
62 - Sunderland - Thornhill - Plains Farm - Doxford Park - A19 - New Seaham - Seaham - Dawdon - Murton (every 60 mins)

East Durham Explorer 65
65 - Seaham - Dalton Park - Murton - Hetton-Le-Hole - Durham - Arnison Centre (64 Route) (every 30 mins)

You could also do more routes to Newcastle from Sunderland through various areas and they may even be quicker than the metro.
I also feel like the Peterlee Network could be incorporated into bigger services..however I have no real idea how to do it without it being very confusing such as (201|206|209|210)

Unber43

11 Dec 2022, 10:12 pm #2,653

V514DFT

2,251

11 Dec 2022, 10:20 pm #2,654

(11 Dec 2022, 10:12 pm)Unber43 Silver Arrows
2 - Sunderland - Royal Hospital - Pennywell - Hastings Hill - Harraton - Lambton - Washington Galleries - Parkway - Bradley Square - Concord - Usworth - Coach Road Estate - B&Q - Oxclose - Washington Galleries - Biddick - Grindon - Hylton - Royal Hospital - Sunderland (every 30 mins)

3 - Sunderland - Royal Hospital - Hylton - Grindon - Biddick - Washington Galleries - Oxclose - B&Q - Coach Road Estate - Usworth - Concord - Bradley Square - Parkway - Washington Galleries - Biddick - Grindon - Hylton - Royal Hospital - Sunderland (every 30 mins)

X2 Sunderland - Royal Hospital - Penshaw - Shiney Row - A183 - A182 - Washington Galleries (every 30 mins)

Connections 4/4A/X4
X4 - Sunderland - Ryhope - Silksworth - Moorside - Hall Farm - Doxford Park - Follingsby - Heworth - Gateshead - Newcastle (every 30 mins)
4 - Heworth - Concord - Washington - Houghton Le Spring - Doxford Park - Farringdon - Gilley Law - Sunderland (every 30 mins)
4A - Heworth - Concord - Washington - Houghton Le Spring - Doxford Park - Ryhope - Sunderland (replace the 39A) (every 30 mins)

Prince Bishop 20|20A|X20
20 - Sunderland - Farringdon - East Herrington - Houghton - East Rainton - West Rainton - Durham - Ushaw Moor (every 30 mins)
20A - Sunderland - Thorney Close - Newbottle - Houghton - Rainton Bridge - East Rainton - West Rainton - Durham - Bowburn (every 30 mins)
X20 - Sunderland - A690 - Doxford Park (Peak) - Houghton - A690 - Durham - Arnison Centre - Sacriston - Witton Gilbert - Langley Park (every 30 mins)

Angel 21
21 - Newcastle - Gateshead - Low Fell - Chester-Le-Street - Waldridge Park (every 60 mins)
21 - Newcastle - Gateshead - Low Fell - Chester-Le-Street - Ouston (every 60 mins)
21 - Newcastle - Gateshead - Low Fell - Chester-Le-Street - Great Lumley - Houghton - Seaham (every 60 mins) [71 Withdrawn]
21 - Newcastle - Gateshead - Low Fell - Chester-Le-Street - Arnison Centre - Durham - Brandon (every 30 mins)
21 - Newcastle - Gateshead - Low Fell - Chester-Le-Street - Arnison Centre - Durham - Bowburn (every 30 mins)

35/36
35 - Low Moorsley - Hetton-Le-Hole - Philadelphia - Penshaw - Grindon - Thorney Close - Royal Hospital - Sunderland (every 30 mins)
36 - South Hetton - Easington Lane - A690 - Houghton-Le-Spring - B1404 - Hall Farm - Doxford Park - Sunderland (every 30 mins)

55|55A
55 - Doxford Park - Royal Hospital - Sunderland - High Southwick - Witherwack - Red House - Downhill - Town House Farm - Follingsby - Heworth
55A - Sunderland - Castletown - Southwick - Bolden

62
Sunderland - Thornhill - Plains Farm - Doxford Park - A19 - New Seaham - Seaham - Dawdon - Murton (every 60 mins)

East Durham Explorer 65
65 - Seaham - Dalton Park - Murton - Hetton-Le-Hole - Durham - Arnison Centre (64 Route) (every 30 mins)

You could also do more routes to Newcastle from Sunderland through various areas and they may even be quicker than the metro.

So you'd have 5 21's?

Kind Regards
Tez

V514DFT

11 Dec 2022, 10:20 pm #2,654

(11 Dec 2022, 10:12 pm)Unber43 Silver Arrows
2 - Sunderland - Royal Hospital - Pennywell - Hastings Hill - Harraton - Lambton - Washington Galleries - Parkway - Bradley Square - Concord - Usworth - Coach Road Estate - B&Q - Oxclose - Washington Galleries - Biddick - Grindon - Hylton - Royal Hospital - Sunderland (every 30 mins)

3 - Sunderland - Royal Hospital - Hylton - Grindon - Biddick - Washington Galleries - Oxclose - B&Q - Coach Road Estate - Usworth - Concord - Bradley Square - Parkway - Washington Galleries - Biddick - Grindon - Hylton - Royal Hospital - Sunderland (every 30 mins)

X2 Sunderland - Royal Hospital - Penshaw - Shiney Row - A183 - A182 - Washington Galleries (every 30 mins)

Connections 4/4A/X4
X4 - Sunderland - Ryhope - Silksworth - Moorside - Hall Farm - Doxford Park - Follingsby - Heworth - Gateshead - Newcastle (every 30 mins)
4 - Heworth - Concord - Washington - Houghton Le Spring - Doxford Park - Farringdon - Gilley Law - Sunderland (every 30 mins)
4A - Heworth - Concord - Washington - Houghton Le Spring - Doxford Park - Ryhope - Sunderland (replace the 39A) (every 30 mins)

Prince Bishop 20|20A|X20
20 - Sunderland - Farringdon - East Herrington - Houghton - East Rainton - West Rainton - Durham - Ushaw Moor (every 30 mins)
20A - Sunderland - Thorney Close - Newbottle - Houghton - Rainton Bridge - East Rainton - West Rainton - Durham - Bowburn (every 30 mins)
X20 - Sunderland - A690 - Doxford Park (Peak) - Houghton - A690 - Durham - Arnison Centre - Sacriston - Witton Gilbert - Langley Park (every 30 mins)

Angel 21
21 - Newcastle - Gateshead - Low Fell - Chester-Le-Street - Waldridge Park (every 60 mins)
21 - Newcastle - Gateshead - Low Fell - Chester-Le-Street - Ouston (every 60 mins)
21 - Newcastle - Gateshead - Low Fell - Chester-Le-Street - Great Lumley - Houghton - Seaham (every 60 mins) [71 Withdrawn]
21 - Newcastle - Gateshead - Low Fell - Chester-Le-Street - Arnison Centre - Durham - Brandon (every 30 mins)
21 - Newcastle - Gateshead - Low Fell - Chester-Le-Street - Arnison Centre - Durham - Bowburn (every 30 mins)

35/36
35 - Low Moorsley - Hetton-Le-Hole - Philadelphia - Penshaw - Grindon - Thorney Close - Royal Hospital - Sunderland (every 30 mins)
36 - South Hetton - Easington Lane - A690 - Houghton-Le-Spring - B1404 - Hall Farm - Doxford Park - Sunderland (every 30 mins)

55|55A
55 - Doxford Park - Royal Hospital - Sunderland - High Southwick - Witherwack - Red House - Downhill - Town House Farm - Follingsby - Heworth
55A - Sunderland - Castletown - Southwick - Bolden

62
Sunderland - Thornhill - Plains Farm - Doxford Park - A19 - New Seaham - Seaham - Dawdon - Murton (every 60 mins)

East Durham Explorer 65
65 - Seaham - Dalton Park - Murton - Hetton-Le-Hole - Durham - Arnison Centre (64 Route) (every 30 mins)

You could also do more routes to Newcastle from Sunderland through various areas and they may even be quicker than the metro.

So you'd have 5 21's?

Kind Regards
Tez

Unber43

3,566

11 Dec 2022, 11:00 pm #2,655

(11 Dec 2022, 10:20 pm)V514DFT So you'd have 5 21's?

Tbf the same thing was done with the X1 having 3 different dests with the same number. Easington Lane, Peterlee, Dalton Park.

Unber43

11 Dec 2022, 11:00 pm #2,655

(11 Dec 2022, 10:20 pm)V514DFT So you'd have 5 21's?

Tbf the same thing was done with the X1 having 3 different dests with the same number. Easington Lane, Peterlee, Dalton Park.

omnicity4659

5,592

11 Dec 2022, 11:50 pm #2,656

(11 Dec 2022, 11:00 pm)Unber43 Tbf the same thing was done with the X1 having 3 different dests with the same number. Easington Lane, Peterlee, Dalton Park.

But only along two routes after Hetton-le-Hole, now down to one with the Easington Lane services effectively being 'shorts' of the full X1.

You're proposing 5 variations of 1 service, which would pretty much serve every part of County Durham after Chester-le-Street...

omnicity4659

11 Dec 2022, 11:50 pm #2,656

(11 Dec 2022, 11:00 pm)Unber43 Tbf the same thing was done with the X1 having 3 different dests with the same number. Easington Lane, Peterlee, Dalton Park.

Unber43

3,566

12 Dec 2022, 12:17 am #2,657

(11 Dec 2022, 11:50 pm)omnicity4659 But only along two routes after Hetton-le-Hole, now down to one with the Easington Lane services effectively being 'shorts' of the full X1.

You're proposing 5 variations of 1 service, which would pretty much serve every part of County Durham after Chester-le-Street...

Fair..however I think 21/21A/21B/21C/21D would be way confusing

Even 21 (brandon)/21A(bowburn) - 22(waldridge Park)/22A(ouston) & 23 (Seaham) would be confusing for people

Tbf I am not sure if there is a reason for the Ouston route considering both 28/29 go that way

Unber43

12 Dec 2022, 12:17 am #2,657

(11 Dec 2022, 11:50 pm)omnicity4659 But only along two routes after Hetton-le-Hole, now down to one with the Easington Lane services effectively being 'shorts' of the full X1.

You're proposing 5 variations of 1 service, which would pretty much serve every part of County Durham after Chester-le-Street...

Drifter60

551

12 Dec 2022, 3:52 am #2,658

(11 Dec 2022, 10:12 pm)Unber43 Red Arrow X1|X1A
X1 - Newcastle - Gateshead - QEH - Washington Galleries - Houghton - Hetton-Le-Hole - Easington Lane (every 30 mins)
X1 - Newcastle - Gateshead - QEH - Washington Galleries - Houghton - Hetton-Le-Hole - Easington Lane - Peterlee - 209 Route (every 60 mins)
X1A - Newcastle - Gateshead - QEH - Washington Galleries - Houghton - Hetton-Le-Hole - Easington Lane - Peterlee - 210 Route (every 60 mins)

Silver Arrows 2|3|X2|X3
2 - Sunderland - Royal Hospital - Pennywell - Hastings Hill - Harraton - Lambton - Washington Galleries - Parkway - Bradley Square - Concord - Usworth - Coach Road Estate - B&Q - Oxclose - Washington Galleries - Biddick - Grindon - Hylton - Royal Hospital - Sunderland (every 30 mins)
3 - Sunderland - Royal Hospital - Hylton - Grindon - Biddick - Washington Galleries - Oxclose - B&Q - Coach Road Estate - Usworth - Concord - Bradley Square - Parkway - Washington Galleries - Biddick - Grindon - Hylton - Royal Hospital - Sunderland (every 30 mins)
X2 Sunderland - Royal Hospital - Penshaw - Shiney Row - A183 - A182 - Washington Galleries - Blackworth - Heworth - Newcastle (every 30 mins)
X3 Sunderland - A690 - Farringdon - A19 - A1231 - Washington - A1 - Team Valley - Gateshead - Newcastle (every 60 mins)

Connections 4|4A/|4
X4 - Sunderland - Ryhope - Silksworth - Moorside - Hall Farm - Doxford Park - Follingsby - Heworth - Gateshead - Newcastle (every 30 mins)
4 - Heworth - Concord - Washington - Houghton Le Spring - Doxford Park - Farringdon - Gilley Law - Sunderland (every 30 mins)
4A - Heworth - Concord - Washington - Houghton Le Spring - Doxford Park - Ryhope - Sunderland (replace the 39A) (every 30 mins)

County Ranger 8|8A
8 - Stanley - Chester-Le-Street - Washington - Sunderland (every 60 mins)
8A - Stanley - Chester-Le-Street - Washington - Hylton Castle - Red House - Sunderland (every 60 mins)

Prince Bishop 20|20A|X20
20 - Sunderland - Farringdon - East Herrington - Houghton - East Rainton - West Rainton - Durham - Ushaw Moor (every 30 mins)
20A - Sunderland - Thorney Close - Newbottle - Houghton - Rainton Bridge - East Rainton - West Rainton - Durham - Bowburn (every 30 mins)
X20 - Sunderland - A690 - Doxford Park (Peak) - Houghton - A690 - Durham - Arnison Centre - Sacriston - Witton Gilbert - Langley Park (every 30 mins)

Angel 21
21 - Newcastle - Gateshead - Low Fell - Chester-Le-Street (every 60 mins)
21 - Newcastle - Gateshead - Low Fell - Chester-Le-Street - Waldridge Park (every 60 mins)
21 - Newcastle - Gateshead - Low Fell - Chester-Le-Street - Ouston (every 60 mins)
21 - Newcastle - Gateshead - Low Fell - Chester-Le-Street - Great Lumley - Houghton - Seaham (every 60 mins) [71 Withdrawn]
21 - Newcastle - Gateshead - Low Fell - Chester-Le-Street - Arnison Centre - Durham - Bowburn (every 30 mins)

Angel 22
22 - Newcastle - Gateshead - Team Valley - Birtley - Chester-Le-Street - Durham - Brandon (every 30 mins)

South Tyneside Connect
24 - Sunderland - Cleadon - South Shields (every 15 mins)
24A - Sunderland - Roker - Fulwell - Whitburn - Marsden - Horsey Hill - South Shields (every 20 mins)
26 - South Shields - South Tyneside Hospital - Jarrow - Hebburn - Lukes Lane (every 30 mins)
23 - Jarrow - Boldon - East Boldon - Cleadon - Chichester - South Shields (every 30 mins)

35|36
35 - Low Moorsley - Hetton-Le-Hole - Philadelphia - Penshaw - Grindon - Thorney Close - Royal Hospital - Sunderland (every 30 mins)
36 - South Hetton - Easington Lane - A690 - Houghton-Le-Spring - B1404 - Hall Farm - Doxford Park - Sunderland (every 30 mins)

Orbit 37|38
37 - Sunderland - Royal Hospital - Pennywell - Hylton Road - Ford Estate - Pallion - Sunderland (every 15 mins)
38 - Sunderland - Pallion - Ford Estate - Hylton Road - Pennywell - Royal Hospital - Sunderland (every 15 mins)

Doxford Park Clipper 39|40
39 - Sunderland - Grangetown - Silksworth - Doxford Park (every 30 mins)
40 - Sunderland - Grangetown - Hollycarrside - Hollycarrside Drive - Silksworth - Doxford Park (every 30 mins) (Optare Solo)

Simplicity 41|42
41 - Sunderland - Toward Road - Queen Alexandra Road - Leechmere Asda - Silksworth - A690 - Sunderland (every 30 mins)
42 - Sunderland - A690 - Silksworth - Leechmere Asda - Queen Alexandra Road - Toward Road - Sunderland (every 30 mins)

Wear Ranger 55|55A
55 - Doxford Park - Royal Hospital - Sunderland - High Southwick - Witherwack - Red House - Downhill - Town House Farm - Follingsby - Heworth (every 30 mins)
55A - Sunderland - Castletown - Southwick - Bolden (every 30 mins)

Drifter (Purple) 61
61 - Murton - Dalton Park - New Seaham - Queen Alexandra Road - The Cedars - Sunderland (every 30 mins)

Drifter (Dark Blue) 62
62 - Sunderland - Thornhill - Plains Farm - Doxford Park - A19 - New Seaham - Seaham - Dawdon - Murton (every 60 mins)

East Durham Explorer 65
65 - Seaham - Dalton Park - Murton - Hetton-Le-Hole - Durham - Arnison Centre (64 Route) (every 30 mins)

You could also do more routes to Newcastle from Sunderland through various areas and they may even be quicker than the metro.
I also feel like the Peterlee Network could be incorporated into bigger services..however I have no real idea how to do it without it being very confusing such as (201|206|209|210)

I mean I do love reading some of these suggestions!

The 21 suggestion is confusing, no two ways about it. Although extensions to Bowburn (presumably via Shincliffe and then terminating at Amazon?) is a good idea, and the 71 being bolted onto a 21 isn’t a *bad idea*, as it would open new connections. Buses direct to Newcastle, Gateshead, Birtley etc across the 71 route would be good however keep the 21 out of it, merging the 25 with 71 would be a better solution, appreciating they’re both secured services these days but it would maybe be a decent idea if local authorities could work together to offer a more joined up network. I don’t see they need for Waldridge or Ouston extensions although I’m guessing it was at the expense of the 34? But I’m not sure that really works. You’re also proposing doubling the number of 21s (or 22s) between Durham and CLS, if you’re sending 2 buses to Brandon and 2 buses to Bowburn each hour.

There’s a few white elephants in your suggestions. What’s the point in this 55 route? The 62 route also, who’s that for? No one in Seaham or Murton are going to Sunderland city centre on your 62 proposal as it’ll take a good chunk longer than a 60 and 61 would. So the next question is there really a need for anyone in Seaham or Murton to want to go to Plains Farm or Thornhill? I’m thinking no. And as for a direct link to Doxford, I’m not sure it’s needed when connections to Doxford are relatively easily done at Ryhope. Not to mention those from Murton will probably find it’s quicker to get a 61/39 than travel via Dawdon and Seaham before even getting to New Seaham!

A few of your suggestions, whilst I appreciate what you’re doing, are replacing mini bus solo operated route into larger double decker services, and I’m not sure a Xlines decker is needed around Horden Hall Estate or if direct connections to Newcastle are top of the list of what people need. I’d guess people in Peterlee would rather have more regular services to local communities in Easington, Blackhall, Shotton and South Hetton and perhaps better integration to the local main centres of Durham, Seaham and Hartlepool.

Drifter60

12 Dec 2022, 3:52 am #2,658

(11 Dec 2022, 10:12 pm)Unber43 Red Arrow X1|X1A
X1 - Newcastle - Gateshead - QEH - Washington Galleries - Houghton - Hetton-Le-Hole - Easington Lane (every 30 mins)
X1 - Newcastle - Gateshead - QEH - Washington Galleries - Houghton - Hetton-Le-Hole - Easington Lane - Peterlee - 209 Route (every 60 mins)
X1A - Newcastle - Gateshead - QEH - Washington Galleries - Houghton - Hetton-Le-Hole - Easington Lane - Peterlee - 210 Route (every 60 mins)

Silver Arrows 2|3|X2|X3
2 - Sunderland - Royal Hospital - Pennywell - Hastings Hill - Harraton - Lambton - Washington Galleries - Parkway - Bradley Square - Concord - Usworth - Coach Road Estate - B&Q - Oxclose - Washington Galleries - Biddick - Grindon - Hylton - Royal Hospital - Sunderland (every 30 mins)
3 - Sunderland - Royal Hospital - Hylton - Grindon - Biddick - Washington Galleries - Oxclose - B&Q - Coach Road Estate - Usworth - Concord - Bradley Square - Parkway - Washington Galleries - Biddick - Grindon - Hylton - Royal Hospital - Sunderland (every 30 mins)
X2 Sunderland - Royal Hospital - Penshaw - Shiney Row - A183 - A182 - Washington Galleries - Blackworth - Heworth - Newcastle (every 30 mins)
X3 Sunderland - A690 - Farringdon - A19 - A1231 - Washington - A1 - Team Valley - Gateshead - Newcastle (every 60 mins)

Connections 4|4A/|4
X4 - Sunderland - Ryhope - Silksworth - Moorside - Hall Farm - Doxford Park - Follingsby - Heworth - Gateshead - Newcastle (every 30 mins)
4 - Heworth - Concord - Washington - Houghton Le Spring - Doxford Park - Farringdon - Gilley Law - Sunderland (every 30 mins)
4A - Heworth - Concord - Washington - Houghton Le Spring - Doxford Park - Ryhope - Sunderland (replace the 39A) (every 30 mins)

County Ranger 8|8A
8 - Stanley - Chester-Le-Street - Washington - Sunderland (every 60 mins)
8A - Stanley - Chester-Le-Street - Washington - Hylton Castle - Red House - Sunderland (every 60 mins)

Prince Bishop 20|20A|X20
20 - Sunderland - Farringdon - East Herrington - Houghton - East Rainton - West Rainton - Durham - Ushaw Moor (every 30 mins)
20A - Sunderland - Thorney Close - Newbottle - Houghton - Rainton Bridge - East Rainton - West Rainton - Durham - Bowburn (every 30 mins)
X20 - Sunderland - A690 - Doxford Park (Peak) - Houghton - A690 - Durham - Arnison Centre - Sacriston - Witton Gilbert - Langley Park (every 30 mins)

Angel 21
21 - Newcastle - Gateshead - Low Fell - Chester-Le-Street (every 60 mins)
21 - Newcastle - Gateshead - Low Fell - Chester-Le-Street - Waldridge Park (every 60 mins)
21 - Newcastle - Gateshead - Low Fell - Chester-Le-Street - Ouston (every 60 mins)
21 - Newcastle - Gateshead - Low Fell - Chester-Le-Street - Great Lumley - Houghton - Seaham (every 60 mins) [71 Withdrawn]
21 - Newcastle - Gateshead - Low Fell - Chester-Le-Street - Arnison Centre - Durham - Bowburn (every 30 mins)

Angel 22
22 - Newcastle - Gateshead - Team Valley - Birtley - Chester-Le-Street - Durham - Brandon (every 30 mins)

South Tyneside Connect
24 - Sunderland - Cleadon - South Shields (every 15 mins)
24A - Sunderland - Roker - Fulwell - Whitburn - Marsden - Horsey Hill - South Shields (every 20 mins)
26 - South Shields - South Tyneside Hospital - Jarrow - Hebburn - Lukes Lane (every 30 mins)
23 - Jarrow - Boldon - East Boldon - Cleadon - Chichester - South Shields (every 30 mins)

35|36
35 - Low Moorsley - Hetton-Le-Hole - Philadelphia - Penshaw - Grindon - Thorney Close - Royal Hospital - Sunderland (every 30 mins)
36 - South Hetton - Easington Lane - A690 - Houghton-Le-Spring - B1404 - Hall Farm - Doxford Park - Sunderland (every 30 mins)

Orbit 37|38
37 - Sunderland - Royal Hospital - Pennywell - Hylton Road - Ford Estate - Pallion - Sunderland (every 15 mins)
38 - Sunderland - Pallion - Ford Estate - Hylton Road - Pennywell - Royal Hospital - Sunderland (every 15 mins)

Doxford Park Clipper 39|40
39 - Sunderland - Grangetown - Silksworth - Doxford Park (every 30 mins)
40 - Sunderland - Grangetown - Hollycarrside - Hollycarrside Drive - Silksworth - Doxford Park (every 30 mins) (Optare Solo)

Simplicity 41|42
41 - Sunderland - Toward Road - Queen Alexandra Road - Leechmere Asda - Silksworth - A690 - Sunderland (every 30 mins)
42 - Sunderland - A690 - Silksworth - Leechmere Asda - Queen Alexandra Road - Toward Road - Sunderland (every 30 mins)

Wear Ranger 55|55A
55 - Doxford Park - Royal Hospital - Sunderland - High Southwick - Witherwack - Red House - Downhill - Town House Farm - Follingsby - Heworth (every 30 mins)
55A - Sunderland - Castletown - Southwick - Bolden (every 30 mins)

Drifter (Purple) 61
61 - Murton - Dalton Park - New Seaham - Queen Alexandra Road - The Cedars - Sunderland (every 30 mins)

Drifter (Dark Blue) 62
62 - Sunderland - Thornhill - Plains Farm - Doxford Park - A19 - New Seaham - Seaham - Dawdon - Murton (every 60 mins)

East Durham Explorer 65
65 - Seaham - Dalton Park - Murton - Hetton-Le-Hole - Durham - Arnison Centre (64 Route) (every 30 mins)

You could also do more routes to Newcastle from Sunderland through various areas and they may even be quicker than the metro.
I also feel like the Peterlee Network could be incorporated into bigger services..however I have no real idea how to do it without it being very confusing such as (201|206|209|210)

V514DFT

2,251

12 Dec 2022, 9:11 pm #2,659

If anything, i'd look at the old 21A/21B, and see if it can be incorporated to meet the demands in 2022,if that makes sense

Kind Regards
Tez

V514DFT

12 Dec 2022, 9:11 pm #2,659

If anything, i'd look at the old 21A/21B, and see if it can be incorporated to meet the demands in 2022,if that makes sense

Kind Regards
Tez

Andreos1

14,242

12 Dec 2022, 9:19 pm #2,660

(12 Dec 2022, 9:11 pm)V514DFT If anything, i'd look at the old 21A/21B, and see if it can be incorporated to meet the demands in 2022,if that makes sense

An awful decision to get rid of the 21a. Just a never ending shambles and combination of numbers ever since they got rid, that haven't been able to work.

At least the portion of the 21b beyond Chester was covered by the 25 until they decided that wasn't working either.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'

Andreos1

12 Dec 2022, 9:19 pm #2,660

(12 Dec 2022, 9:11 pm)V514DFT If anything, i'd look at the old 21A/21B, and see if it can be incorporated to meet the demands in 2022,if that makes sense

'Illegitimis non carborundum'

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