GNE Questions about fleet withdrawals/buses VOR/fleet questions
GNE Questions about fleet withdrawals/buses VOR/fleet questions
Is the 861 just staying as a single decker for the afternoon journey all the time now?. As it runs off the 6.40 morning 20 from Langley Park which then goes on the 20A/65. It also seems Deptfords down a few deckers, one for the 861, then 2 for the peak time 39A's. But 6183, 6185, 6188-6193 havent been on since Friday? Is there a reason for this. Because the Voyagers when to Consett it allowed some of them to go to Washington for the Park View schools there. 6183, 6185, 6188-6193 so where are these going along with the spare B5s for seeming the X21 getting the Old Red Kite X-Lines, as one is already at Consett. Not to mention where the Charcoal B5TL Wright Eclipse Gemini 3 are going. And they also seem that Deptford is down a decker for the morning X20.
(28 Mar 2023, 7:56 am)Unber43 Is the 861 just staying as a single decker for the afternoon journey all the time now?. As it runs off the 6.40 morning 20 from Langley Park which then goes on the 20A/65. It also seems Deptfords down a few deckers, one for the 861, then 2 for the peak time 39A's. But 6183, 6185, 6188-6193 havent been on since Friday? Is there a reason for this. Because the Voyagers when to Consett it allowed some of them to go to Washington for the Park View schools there. 6183, 6185, 6188-6193 so where are these going along with the spare B5s for seeming the X21 getting the Old Red Kite X-Lines, as one is already at Consett. Not to mention where the Charcoal B5TL Wright Eclipse Gemini 3 are going. And they also seem that Deptford is down a decker for the morning X20.
(28 Mar 2023, 7:56 am)Unber43 Is the 861 just staying as a single decker for the afternoon journey all the time now?. As it runs off the 6.40 morning 20 from Langley Park which then goes on the 20A/65. It also seems Deptfords down a few deckers, one for the 861, then 2 for the peak time 39A's. But 6183, 6185, 6188-6193 havent been on since Friday? Is there a reason for this. Because the Voyagers when to Consett it allowed some of them to go to Washington for the Park View schools there. 6183, 6185, 6188-6193 so where are these going along with the spare B5s for seeming the X21 getting the Old Red Kite X-Lines, as one is already at Consett. Not to mention where the Charcoal B5TL Wright Eclipse Gemini 3 are going. And they also seem that Deptford is down a decker for the morning X20.
(28 Mar 2023, 2:36 pm)Unber43 But move the X20 to stand N, as the X1 gets a tonne of passengers from there which should be using the X20
(28 Mar 2023, 2:36 pm)Unber43 But move the X20 to stand N, as the X1 gets a tonne of passengers from there which should be using the X20
(28 Mar 2023, 3:23 pm)Drifter60 Passengers using the X1 should be using the X20? Why?But the X1 serves Park Lane, the only SC Service to do it.
I’d argue these two like for like services exist to service different commuters. Stagecoach will get local passengers who use their local services; the north Sunderland estate routes etc. Whereas GNE will get those from outside of Sunderland, such as Washington/Consett/Jarrow, who use their routes that go outside of Sunderland.
(28 Mar 2023, 3:23 pm)Drifter60 Passengers using the X1 should be using the X20? Why?But the X1 serves Park Lane, the only SC Service to do it.
I’d argue these two like for like services exist to service different commuters. Stagecoach will get local passengers who use their local services; the north Sunderland estate routes etc. Whereas GNE will get those from outside of Sunderland, such as Washington/Consett/Jarrow, who use their routes that go outside of Sunderland.
(28 Mar 2023, 3:33 pm)Unber43 But the X1 serves Park Lane, the only SC Service to do it.Esocially how the X20 is nearly late everyday as well as the peak time 20 from Rainton which does the 20 to Eas Herrington then goes on the South tyneside circuit and the normal 20 all clash, so all the stands are taken anyway due to that and its a nightmare trying to get to whichever one you need that's not in the actual stand as they're nearly always late so they just pull out.
Tbf maybe if GNE actually give a toss and timetabled the X20 right, and from Stand N (why move it to L is just ludicrous to me)
(28 Mar 2023, 1:41 pm)Drifter60 So far, the 20A/65 are allocated just streetlites, today and yesterday from the few buses I seen and what bus times seems to suggests. Bus Times is tracking two deckers on the 20 though, which I believe was the same yesterday. Obviously that’s just down to what I’ve seen or what’s allocated according to bus times. What is the correct allocation is anyone guess as this isn’t exactly a strong point right now!Yer but on the night the 861s are quiet busy. But even the X20s on the night don't get that busy, i must get one 2/3 times a week and they're not busy. Its the 7:06, 7:32 20s that are suppose to get deckers. But I think thee 6:40 20 to Sunderland from Langley deserves one as well.
The morning journey on the 861 was often a single decker, I often passed it. So capacity wise it must just need a single decker. Looking at last week it seems 861 journeys ran onto X20’s which seems to be still allocated deckers judging by yesterdays tracking data, so the 861 was likely just coincidentally allocated a decker in the afternoon.
(28 Mar 2023, 3:33 pm)Unber43 But the X1 serves Park Lane, the only SC Service to do it.Esocially how the X20 is nearly late everyday as well as the peak time 20 from Rainton which does the 20 to Eas Herrington then goes on the South tyneside circuit and the normal 20 all clash, so all the stands are taken anyway due to that and its a nightmare trying to get to whichever one you need that's not in the actual stand as they're nearly always late so they just pull out.
Tbf maybe if GNE actually give a toss and timetabled the X20 right, and from Stand N (why move it to L is just ludicrous to me)
(28 Mar 2023, 1:41 pm)Drifter60 So far, the 20A/65 are allocated just streetlites, today and yesterday from the few buses I seen and what bus times seems to suggests. Bus Times is tracking two deckers on the 20 though, which I believe was the same yesterday. Obviously that’s just down to what I’ve seen or what’s allocated according to bus times. What is the correct allocation is anyone guess as this isn’t exactly a strong point right now!Yer but on the night the 861s are quiet busy. But even the X20s on the night don't get that busy, i must get one 2/3 times a week and they're not busy. Its the 7:06, 7:32 20s that are suppose to get deckers. But I think thee 6:40 20 to Sunderland from Langley deserves one as well.
The morning journey on the 861 was often a single decker, I often passed it. So capacity wise it must just need a single decker. Looking at last week it seems 861 journeys ran onto X20’s which seems to be still allocated deckers judging by yesterdays tracking data, so the 861 was likely just coincidentally allocated a decker in the afternoon.
(28 Mar 2023, 7:56 am)Unber43 Is the 861 just staying as a single decker for the afternoon journey all the time now?. As it runs off the 6.40 morning 20 from Langley Park which then goes on the 20A/65. It also seems Deptfords down a few deckers, one for the 861, then 2 for the peak time 39A's. But 6183, 6185, 6188-6193 havent been on since Friday? Is there a reason for this. Because the Voyagers when to Consett it allowed some of them to go to Washington for the Park View schools there. 6183, 6185, 6188-6193 so where are these going along with the spare B5s for seeming the X21 getting the Old Red Kite X-Lines, as one is already at Consett. Not to mention where the Charcoal B5TL Wright Eclipse Gemini 3 are going. And they also seem that Deptford is down a decker for the morning X20.So does anyone know whats happening to the Charcoal B5TLs Wright Eclipse Gemini 3s or 6183,6185, 6188-6193? And the spare X21s?
(28 Mar 2023, 4:54 pm)Unber43 5:34 used to get a decker too.Yer but looking at the timetabnle, it gets into Durham for 20:35, a 20 leaves at 20:35, so its tight but if that 65 instead of going back to Seaham went to Sunderland as it just does a 60 full trip then goes NIS. Then that 20 could go onto the 65 for the 20:45 journey. If the 861 does get a decker.
However with the dead run from Seaham being via B1287, you need to be careful that if deckers are on the 65 that they dont go under that bridge at Ryhope unless its an E400MMC, or an OmniDekka
(28 Mar 2023, 7:56 am)Unber43 Is the 861 just staying as a single decker for the afternoon journey all the time now?. As it runs off the 6.40 morning 20 from Langley Park which then goes on the 20A/65. It also seems Deptfords down a few deckers, one for the 861, then 2 for the peak time 39A's. But 6183, 6185, 6188-6193 havent been on since Friday? Is there a reason for this. Because the Voyagers when to Consett it allowed some of them to go to Washington for the Park View schools there. 6183, 6185, 6188-6193 so where are these going along with the spare B5s for seeming the X21 getting the Old Red Kite X-Lines, as one is already at Consett. Not to mention where the Charcoal B5TL Wright Eclipse Gemini 3 are going. And they also seem that Deptford is down a decker for the morning X20.So does anyone know whats happening to the Charcoal B5TLs Wright Eclipse Gemini 3s or 6183,6185, 6188-6193? And the spare X21s?
(28 Mar 2023, 4:54 pm)Unber43 5:34 used to get a decker too.Yer but looking at the timetabnle, it gets into Durham for 20:35, a 20 leaves at 20:35, so its tight but if that 65 instead of going back to Seaham went to Sunderland as it just does a 60 full trip then goes NIS. Then that 20 could go onto the 65 for the 20:45 journey. If the 861 does get a decker.
However with the dead run from Seaham being via B1287, you need to be careful that if deckers are on the 65 that they dont go under that bridge at Ryhope unless its an E400MMC, or an OmniDekka
The X20 shouldn't exist and all people should use the X1. There's no need for 2 operators doing the same peak express.
Do a deal with each other. Stagecoach run the X1 in Sunderland and GNE run the X39 on the Coast Road with valid tickets between each other. The 22X/X39 is even worse, both running 5 minutes apart (3 minutes heading towards Newcastle).
(28 Mar 2023, 5:03 pm)nova347 So does anyone know whats happening to the Charcoal B5TLs Wright Eclipse Gemini 3s or 6183,6185, 6188-6193? And the spare X21s?
(28 Mar 2023, 5:03 pm)nova347 So does anyone know whats happening to the Charcoal B5TLs Wright Eclipse Gemini 3s or 6183,6185, 6188-6193? And the spare X21s?
(28 Mar 2023, 6:06 pm)Dan The Go North West liveried Volvo B9s have started to return to Go North West (joining 6190 which was painted/refurbished):How many London buses are we waiting on ?
https://twitter.com/buses2012/status/164...41826?s=46&t=NXz7Kjb4o-Fgc1t3GFJ74g
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(28 Mar 2023, 6:06 pm)Dan The Go North West liveried Volvo B9s have started to return to Go North West (joining 6190 which was painted/refurbished):How many London buses are we waiting on ?
https://twitter.com/buses2012/status/164...41826?s=46&t=NXz7Kjb4o-Fgc1t3GFJ74g
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(28 Mar 2023, 5:54 pm)Storx The X20 shouldn't exist and all people should use the X1. There's no need for 2 operators doing the same peak express.
Do a deal with each other. Stagecoach run the X1 in Sunderland and GNE run the X39 on the Coast Road with valid tickets between each other. The 22X/X39 is even worse, both running 5 minutes apart (3 minutes heading towards Newcastle).
(28 Mar 2023, 5:54 pm)Storx The X20 shouldn't exist and all people should use the X1. There's no need for 2 operators doing the same peak express.
Do a deal with each other. Stagecoach run the X1 in Sunderland and GNE run the X39 on the Coast Road with valid tickets between each other. The 22X/X39 is even worse, both running 5 minutes apart (3 minutes heading towards Newcastle).
(28 Mar 2023, 8:28 pm)nova347 Has it been discovered why the Green Arrow & Berries set alight? And is GNE bringing anything in to replace them?
(28 Mar 2023, 8:28 pm)nova347 Has it been discovered why the Green Arrow & Berries set alight? And is GNE bringing anything in to replace them?
(28 Mar 2023, 9:43 pm)ALavery I’m pretty sure I read on here that they do stuff like that to keep the service for when it comes back. Kind of like how there’s one 39 Journey a day. It’s so they don’t have to go through all the hassle of creating a new service again.
(28 Mar 2023, 9:43 pm)ALavery I’m pretty sure I read on here that they do stuff like that to keep the service for when it comes back. Kind of like how there’s one 39 Journey a day. It’s so they don’t have to go through all the hassle of creating a new service again.
