(16 Apr 2023, 10:04 am)Michael wrote Oh well, the passengers who never use it, will be outraged no doubt and go to the paper etc..............I've ridden with a driver on the 135, and it seemed fairly well used for what it is, particularly the last two trips round the north estates.
What about the other NEXUS services, are all those changes going ahead?
(16 Apr 2023, 10:09 am)F114TML wrote I've ridden with a driver on the 135, and it seemed fairly well used for what it is, particularly the last two trips round the north estates.
(16 Apr 2023, 10:21 am)Michael wrote Interesting, I wonder if they would keep the last 2 trips, if those are the busiest runs?It was a Sunday, actually. Through the whole shift (I think it was 3 circuits plus the short one to town end), it was quite well used (loadings on one journey were somewhat comparable to stagecoach routes!) between the town and castletown (but completely dead from there) - I wonder, though, how many people were just using it cos they missed a stagecoach bus and we just happened to rock up before the next one...
I take it, a Friday and a Saturday, is when those 2 trips are busy?
(16 Apr 2023, 10:49 am)F114TML wrote It was a Sunday, actually. Through the whole shift (I think it was 3 circuits plus the short one to town end), it was quite well used (loadings on one journey were somewhat comparable to stagecoach routes!) between the town and castletown (but completely dead from there) - I wonder, though, how many people were just using it cos they missed a stagecoach bus and we just happened to rock up before the next one...
(16 Apr 2023, 11:26 am)F114TML wrote I will say though, there are people who purposefully get the circular. I once had someone at Downhill get on my 4, but only after I told her I hadn't seen the 136, and there's a fair few people go to Castletown on the 135 from that club on Clacton Road where the 3 terminates (couple times I've been on a backshift on the 3 and someone's been waiting for the circular). I think instead of just withdrawing the full thing, it might be best having it do the north estates and terminate at the turning circle on Grange Road. No idea what it'd be like timetable wise though.
I wouldn't think any cuts in service on stagecoach routes would affect nighttime buses - we have enough drivers for them and the service is pretty bare bones anyway.
(16 Apr 2023, 11:26 am)F114TML wrote I will say though, there are people who purposefully get the circular. I once had someone at Downhill get on my 4, but only after I told her I hadn't seen the 136, and there's a fair few people go to Castletown on the 135 from that club on Clacton Road where the 3 terminates (couple times I've been on a backshift on the 3 and someone's been waiting for the circular). I think instead of just withdrawing the full thing, it might be best having it do the north estates and terminate at the turning circle on Grange Road. No idea what it'd be like timetable wise though.
I wouldn't think any cuts in service on stagecoach routes would affect nighttime buses - we have enough drivers for them and the service is pretty bare bones anyway.
(16 Apr 2023, 11:39 am)Storx wrote See I think it would be a route that would work for the eventual 18 replacement which is a bit pointless.I was thinking simply extend the 8 or 20 via Roker Baths Road to Seaburn Morrisons, or divert the E6, or possibly make a 22 or 23A opposite the existing 23. Round the back of Roker Park is the only bit of the 18 that gets many passengers - rest are all ad hoc going round the corner or i missed the 16/20'.
(16 Apr 2023, 11:50 am)cbma06 wrote I wonder if the mentioned contracted bus services on the nexus consultations for may that are getting reduced or withdrawn would be replaced by existing contracted bus services slightly diversion of routes.
Couldn’t some journeys of the 3 or 4 Sundays be extended to Castletown to cover the 135/136 if passengers are traveling from Castletown to north estates or something
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(16 Apr 2023, 2:14 pm)F114TML wrote I was thinking simply extend the 8 or 20 via Roker Baths Road to Seaburn Morrisons, or divert the E6, or possibly make a 22 or 23A opposite the existing 23. Round the back of Roker Park is the only bit of the 18 that gets many passengers - rest are all ad hoc going round the corner or i missed the 16/20'.
4's a bit far away but the 3 potentially could.
(16 Apr 2023, 1:28 pm)Andreos1 wrote It's inevitable there's going to be cuts and consolidation.
It's what happened prior to the pandemic and will continue to happen beyond.
Just on a far greater scale.
Regardless of the operator.
(16 Apr 2023, 2:14 pm)F114TML wrote I was thinking simply extend the 8 or 20 via Roker Baths Road to Seaburn Morrisons, or divert the E6, or possibly make a 22 or 23A opposite the existing 23. Round the back of Roker Park is the only bit of the 18 that gets many passengers - rest are all ad hoc going round the corner or i missed the 16/20'.One thing I neglected to mention is the 18A, which is well used - mainly by schoolkids, but also a few workers at that industrial site by the Queen Alex Bridge.
4's a bit far away but the 3 potentially could.
(16 Apr 2023, 2:30 pm)F114TML wrote Thing that surprises me most is they're disposing of the circulars which are well used (for what they are), yet keeping routes like the 99. I did it once on New Year's Eve and took about £11 total (cash and card combined), and I was told I was being hammered by comparison to normal loadings (baring in mind I did one full trip from Grangetown to Hylton Castle and picked no one up). I don't think I was able to pass a single timing point without waiting in the whole shift I did (3hr 15 including the run from the depot) - I even managed to leave the depot late and still arrive at my first timing point on time!
One thing I neglected to mention is the 18A, which is well used - mainly by schoolkids, but also a few workers at that industrial site by the Queen Alex Bridge.
(16 Apr 2023, 2:49 pm)Storx wrote Aye totally agreed to be honest, it's the same everywhere though. Every bus goes to Sunderland and Newcastle and that's about it want to travel around the city then tough luck, travel 20 minutes into Sunderland and then travel 30 minutes back and let's be honest who the hell wants to go to Sunderland.The 99's existed in various iterations for years (there's a stop at Seaburn Morrisons, somewhere, with a timetable on it for the 99 that's about 10 years out of date!) It's only been going to the ASDA since GNE dumped the 38 last year (before that it used to go along Premier Way to the Prospect, then back along Durham Road to the Barnes).
Always reminds me of someone who lives in the West End of Newcastle who shops in Byker as it's the only place they can actually get from where they live (Benwell). At the time I was like wtf you going there for there's like 5 supermarkets around here but then you look at a route map, good luck getting to them.
Btw. on the 99 I really don't get the point of it, is it funded by ASDA or something? As it seems the only point of it.
(16 Apr 2023, 4:16 pm)purplesolo wrote 135/136 has been scrapped by Nexus.
GNE will run the 79; 79A has been scrapped by Nexus though.
(16 Apr 2023, 4:16 pm)purplesolo wrote 135/136 has been scrapped by Nexus.the 71 should be extended to South Hetton on evenings.
GNE will run the 79; 79A has been scrapped by Nexus though.
(16 Apr 2023, 5:16 pm)Unber43 wrote the 71 should be extended to South Hetton on evenings.
As there are no buses between Easington to peterlee from like 18:00/19:00 till the next day.
They should bring the 35A back to half hourly.
(16 Apr 2023, 5:55 pm)purplesolo wrote The 520 has been saved for some reason and will also be ran by GNE. Assuming the 79’s and 520’s will interwork.
(16 Apr 2023, 6:28 pm)Tiger5105 wrote A couple of corporate streetlites have appeared back at Consett, one being 5453 which, according to bustimes, has been used on the 1 recently. I wonder if the E200's are earmarked for a short stay at Consett and are transferring depots?No Consett are keeping the MMC's for the 6
(16 Apr 2023, 5:47 pm)F114TML wrote Yeah, because literally no one used it.
(16 Apr 2023, 5:55 pm)purplesolo wrote The 520 has been saved for some reason and will also be ran by GNE. Assuming the 79’s and 520’s will interwork.
(17 Apr 2023, 12:30 pm)deanmachine wrote They did when the 35A ran it. Not many, but it was usedIt's almost as if a massive operator operating a service in their area where people can use the day/week tickets they've already bought helps...madness
(17 Apr 2023, 12:30 pm)deanmachine wrote Mad how that's kept and the 135/136 are being binned off. I know that would save more money but I can't imagine it being better used.I agree.