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Storx



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19 Aug 2023, 11:08 am #2,321
(19 Aug 2023, 6:58 am)Rob44 not to be pedantic and i do see what you both mean bus inst NEXUS funded by the councisl of the old tyne and wear.  So people in northumberland when they pay there poll tax/council tax or whatever its called are not paying into it and yet are gaining from a survice paid for by ounters in another county? I know how people from sunderland must have felt when they had no metro service! Wink

Depends who it benefits though, I can't imagine there's a massive flow of people from Cramlington wanting to go Weetslade and Dudley at night so arguably it's benefitting them more than Northumberland.

Seaton Valley Parish / Northumberland Council subsidise the 57A through Annitsford and Northumberland Council subsidise the 19 (Backworth), 74 (Stamfordham), 309 (Early Runs), 684 (West End) and 808 (Woolsingham) for similar reasons. Don't believe Nexus fund any of them. The 57A being Nexus from Earsdon to North Shields only.
Storx
19 Aug 2023, 11:08 am #2,321

(19 Aug 2023, 6:58 am)Rob44 not to be pedantic and i do see what you both mean bus inst NEXUS funded by the councisl of the old tyne and wear.  So people in northumberland when they pay there poll tax/council tax or whatever its called are not paying into it and yet are gaining from a survice paid for by ounters in another county? I know how people from sunderland must have felt when they had no metro service! Wink

Depends who it benefits though, I can't imagine there's a massive flow of people from Cramlington wanting to go Weetslade and Dudley at night so arguably it's benefitting them more than Northumberland.

Seaton Valley Parish / Northumberland Council subsidise the 57A through Annitsford and Northumberland Council subsidise the 19 (Backworth), 74 (Stamfordham), 309 (Early Runs), 684 (West End) and 808 (Woolsingham) for similar reasons. Don't believe Nexus fund any of them. The 57A being Nexus from Earsdon to North Shields only.

Rob44



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19 Aug 2023, 12:19 pm #2,322
(19 Aug 2023, 11:08 am)Storx Depends who it benefits though, I can't imagine there's a massive flow of people from Cramlington wanting to go Weetslade and Dudley at night so arguably it's benefitting them more than Northumberland.

Seaton Valley Parish / Northumberland Council subsidise the 57A through Annitsford and Northumberland Council subsidise the 19 (Backworth), 74 (Stamfordham), 309 (Early Runs), 684 (West End) and 808 (Woolsingham) for similar reasons. Don't believe Nexus fund any of them. The 57A being Nexus from Earsdon to North Shields only.

Swings and roundabouts then.  I just though if a bus traveled from one area to another that both areas would fund the service.
Rob44
19 Aug 2023, 12:19 pm #2,322

(19 Aug 2023, 11:08 am)Storx Depends who it benefits though, I can't imagine there's a massive flow of people from Cramlington wanting to go Weetslade and Dudley at night so arguably it's benefitting them more than Northumberland.

Seaton Valley Parish / Northumberland Council subsidise the 57A through Annitsford and Northumberland Council subsidise the 19 (Backworth), 74 (Stamfordham), 309 (Early Runs), 684 (West End) and 808 (Woolsingham) for similar reasons. Don't believe Nexus fund any of them. The 57A being Nexus from Earsdon to North Shields only.

Swings and roundabouts then.  I just though if a bus traveled from one area to another that both areas would fund the service.

19 Aug 2023, 11:50 pm #2,323
(18 Aug 2023, 4:18 pm)Economic505 https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-up...:23:42:470

The 71/72/87 is a very bizarre set of changes. The service runs every 15 minutes until early afternoon then drops to every 20 minutes can’t quite work out how that works.
Coastliner700
19 Aug 2023, 11:50 pm #2,323

(18 Aug 2023, 4:18 pm)Economic505 https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-up...:23:42:470

The 71/72/87 is a very bizarre set of changes. The service runs every 15 minutes until early afternoon then drops to every 20 minutes can’t quite work out how that works.

pbjd



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20 Aug 2023, 5:12 am #2,324
(19 Aug 2023, 11:50 pm)Coastliner700 The 71/72/87 is a very bizarre set of changes. The service runs every 15 minutes until early afternoon then drops to every 20 minutes can’t quite work out how that works.


It’s to allow the 115 scholars to operate as it runs off 71/72.


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pbjd
20 Aug 2023, 5:12 am #2,324

(19 Aug 2023, 11:50 pm)Coastliner700 The 71/72/87 is a very bizarre set of changes. The service runs every 15 minutes until early afternoon then drops to every 20 minutes can’t quite work out how that works.


It’s to allow the 115 scholars to operate as it runs off 71/72.


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busmanT



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20 Aug 2023, 7:40 am #2,325
(19 Aug 2023, 11:08 am)Storx Depends who it benefits though, I can't imagine there's a massive flow of people from Cramlington wanting to go Weetslade and Dudley at night so arguably it's benefitting them more than Northumberland.

Seaton Valley Parish / Northumberland Council subsidise the 57A through Annitsford and Northumberland Council subsidise the 19 (Backworth), 74 (Stamfordham), 309 (Early Runs), 684 (West End) and 808 (Woolsingham) for similar reasons. Don't believe Nexus fund any of them. The 57A being Nexus from Earsdon to North Shields only.

I don't believe that any 309s are subsidised these days.

Durham fund the 28/28B/29 whilst Nexus secure part of the 25 that runs in County Durham.
busmanT
20 Aug 2023, 7:40 am #2,325

(19 Aug 2023, 11:08 am)Storx Depends who it benefits though, I can't imagine there's a massive flow of people from Cramlington wanting to go Weetslade and Dudley at night so arguably it's benefitting them more than Northumberland.

Seaton Valley Parish / Northumberland Council subsidise the 57A through Annitsford and Northumberland Council subsidise the 19 (Backworth), 74 (Stamfordham), 309 (Early Runs), 684 (West End) and 808 (Woolsingham) for similar reasons. Don't believe Nexus fund any of them. The 57A being Nexus from Earsdon to North Shields only.

I don't believe that any 309s are subsidised these days.

Durham fund the 28/28B/29 whilst Nexus secure part of the 25 that runs in County Durham.

Storx



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20 Aug 2023, 9:06 am #2,326
(20 Aug 2023, 7:40 am)busmanT I don't believe that any 309s are subsidised these days.

Durham fund the 28/28B/29 whilst Nexus secure part of the 25 that runs in County Durham.

Isn't there some very early Sunday journeys still, not sure though mind after the partnership?

https://bustimes.org/registrations/PB0003954/304 - I know the registration still shows Northumberland under the subsidy box, assuming the No being for the 307.
Storx
20 Aug 2023, 9:06 am #2,326

(20 Aug 2023, 7:40 am)busmanT I don't believe that any 309s are subsidised these days.

Durham fund the 28/28B/29 whilst Nexus secure part of the 25 that runs in County Durham.

Isn't there some very early Sunday journeys still, not sure though mind after the partnership?

https://bustimes.org/registrations/PB0003954/304 - I know the registration still shows Northumberland under the subsidy box, assuming the No being for the 307.

RobinHood



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20 Aug 2023, 9:31 am #2,327
(11 Aug 2023, 9:55 am)Michael PB0001987/322
New CLEVELAND TRANSIT LTD 66ADS (6ADS, 6DS) Stockton-on-Tees High Street North Darlington Town Hall

Start point: Stockton-on-Tees High Street North
Finish point: Darlington Town Hall
Via: Ingleby Barwick, Yarm, Eaglescliffe, Teesside Airport, Middleton St George
Date received: 10 Aug 2023
Effective date: 04 Sep 2023

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PB0001987/323
New CLEVELAND TRANSIT LTD 66ADH (6ADH, 6DH) Darlington Town Hall Darlington Town Hall or Tubwell Row
Start point: Darlington Town Hall
Finish point: Darlington Town Hall or Tubwell Row
Via Hurworth
Date received: 10 Aug 2023
Effective date: 04 Sep 2023

Still no acceptance on these. Another delay likely, similar to Service 1/2 in East Cleveland?
Edited 20 Aug 2023, 9:35 am by RobinHood.
RobinHood
20 Aug 2023, 9:31 am #2,327

(11 Aug 2023, 9:55 am)Michael PB0001987/322
New CLEVELAND TRANSIT LTD 66ADS (6ADS, 6DS) Stockton-on-Tees High Street North Darlington Town Hall

Start point: Stockton-on-Tees High Street North
Finish point: Darlington Town Hall
Via: Ingleby Barwick, Yarm, Eaglescliffe, Teesside Airport, Middleton St George
Date received: 10 Aug 2023
Effective date: 04 Sep 2023

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PB0001987/323
New CLEVELAND TRANSIT LTD 66ADH (6ADH, 6DH) Darlington Town Hall Darlington Town Hall or Tubwell Row
Start point: Darlington Town Hall
Finish point: Darlington Town Hall or Tubwell Row
Via Hurworth
Date received: 10 Aug 2023
Effective date: 04 Sep 2023

Still no acceptance on these. Another delay likely, similar to Service 1/2 in East Cleveland?

21 Aug 2023, 10:25 am #2,328
(20 Aug 2023, 5:12 am)pbjd It’s to allow the 115 scholars to operate as it runs off 71/72.


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Sad they’re cutting commercial services to allow them to take on contracts !
Coastliner700
21 Aug 2023, 10:25 am #2,328

(20 Aug 2023, 5:12 am)pbjd It’s to allow the 115 scholars to operate as it runs off 71/72.


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Sad they’re cutting commercial services to allow them to take on contracts !

tyresmoke



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22 Aug 2023, 3:39 pm #2,329
(21 Aug 2023, 10:25 am)Coastliner700 Sad they’re cutting commercial services to allow them to take on contracts !


I suspect it’s more the only way the commercial stuff would survive. Without the contracts to back it up it would likely be gone altogether!


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tyresmoke
22 Aug 2023, 3:39 pm #2,329

(21 Aug 2023, 10:25 am)Coastliner700 Sad they’re cutting commercial services to allow them to take on contracts !


I suspect it’s more the only way the commercial stuff would survive. Without the contracts to back it up it would likely be gone altogether!


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22 Aug 2023, 3:47 pm #2,330
(20 Aug 2023, 9:31 am)RobinHood Still no acceptance on these. Another delay likely, similar to Service 1/2 in East Cleveland?

Accepted Today , Both Parts Wink
gc802002
22 Aug 2023, 3:47 pm #2,330

(20 Aug 2023, 9:31 am)RobinHood Still no acceptance on these. Another delay likely, similar to Service 1/2 in East Cleveland?

Accepted Today , Both Parts Wink

Kuyoyo



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22 Aug 2023, 4:11 pm #2,331
(22 Aug 2023, 3:47 pm)gc802002 Accepted Today , Both Parts Wink

But with the start date pushed back 2 weeks to commence on the 21st September rather than the 4th.
Meaning the residents along the 12 route will have a gap of two weeks between Arriva finishing on the 12 and Stagecoach’s 6/6A starting.
Kuyoyo
22 Aug 2023, 4:11 pm #2,331

(22 Aug 2023, 3:47 pm)gc802002 Accepted Today , Both Parts Wink

But with the start date pushed back 2 weeks to commence on the 21st September rather than the 4th.
Meaning the residents along the 12 route will have a gap of two weeks between Arriva finishing on the 12 and Stagecoach’s 6/6A starting.

22 Aug 2023, 4:26 pm #2,332
(22 Aug 2023, 4:11 pm)Kuyoyo But with the start date pushed back 2 weeks to commence on the 21st September rather than the 4th.
Meaning the residents along the 12 route will have a gap of two weeks between Arriva finishing on the 12 and Stagecoach’s 6/6A starting.

Unless the local authority pay Stagecoach an increased rate to run for free?
gc802002
22 Aug 2023, 4:26 pm #2,332

(22 Aug 2023, 4:11 pm)Kuyoyo But with the start date pushed back 2 weeks to commence on the 21st September rather than the 4th.
Meaning the residents along the 12 route will have a gap of two weeks between Arriva finishing on the 12 and Stagecoach’s 6/6A starting.

Unless the local authority pay Stagecoach an increased rate to run for free?

RobinHood



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22 Aug 2023, 5:24 pm #2,333
(22 Aug 2023, 4:26 pm)gc802002 Unless the local authority pay Stagecoach an increased rate to run for free?

To avoid embarrassment, they may need to!
RobinHood
22 Aug 2023, 5:24 pm #2,333

(22 Aug 2023, 4:26 pm)gc802002 Unless the local authority pay Stagecoach an increased rate to run for free?

To avoid embarrassment, they may need to!

busmanT



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22 Aug 2023, 8:24 pm #2,334
(22 Aug 2023, 5:24 pm)RobinHood To avoid embarrassment, they may need to!

I'm surprised that Stagecoach are taking any revenue risk in the first place!
busmanT
22 Aug 2023, 8:24 pm #2,334

(22 Aug 2023, 5:24 pm)RobinHood To avoid embarrassment, they may need to!

I'm surprised that Stagecoach are taking any revenue risk in the first place!

col87



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24 Aug 2023, 3:03 pm #2,335
(22 Aug 2023, 4:26 pm)gc802002 Unless the local authority pay Stagecoach an increased rate to run for free?
Depends if Ben can get any photo opportunities out of it probably a picture of him on the bus parked outside the airport or something.
col87
24 Aug 2023, 3:03 pm #2,335

(22 Aug 2023, 4:26 pm)gc802002 Unless the local authority pay Stagecoach an increased rate to run for free?
Depends if Ben can get any photo opportunities out of it probably a picture of him on the bus parked outside the airport or something.

itsadam



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30 Aug 2023, 3:33 pm #2,336
How come I saw a training vehicle going through Birtley at around half 12 today?
itsadam
30 Aug 2023, 3:33 pm #2,336

How come I saw a training vehicle going through Birtley at around half 12 today?

nova347



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30 Aug 2023, 6:28 pm #2,337
(30 Aug 2023, 3:33 pm)itsadam How come I saw a training vehicle going through Birtley at around half 12 today?

I always see Stagecoach Driver Training buses going through places stagecoach doesn't serve.
nova347
30 Aug 2023, 6:28 pm #2,337

(30 Aug 2023, 3:33 pm)itsadam How come I saw a training vehicle going through Birtley at around half 12 today?

I always see Stagecoach Driver Training buses going through places stagecoach doesn't serve.

31 Aug 2023, 5:47 am #2,338
(30 Aug 2023, 3:33 pm)itsadam How come I saw a training vehicle going through Birtley at around half 12 today?

They're training people how to drive a bus, not necessarily route learning them.

When I first learned to drive a car, I was taken to some very quiet roads so I could get used to operating the machine, before being introduced to more and more typical roads.  I can't imagine it'll be any different for buses; they're just looking for roads to give the learner some experience.
Ianthegoon
31 Aug 2023, 5:47 am #2,338

(30 Aug 2023, 3:33 pm)itsadam How come I saw a training vehicle going through Birtley at around half 12 today?

They're training people how to drive a bus, not necessarily route learning them.

When I first learned to drive a car, I was taken to some very quiet roads so I could get used to operating the machine, before being introduced to more and more typical roads.  I can't imagine it'll be any different for buses; they're just looking for roads to give the learner some experience.

01 Sep 2023, 7:14 pm #2,339
Also depends on where the test centres are, they might be learning one of the test routes.

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Rapidsnap
01 Sep 2023, 7:14 pm #2,339

Also depends on where the test centres are, they might be learning one of the test routes.


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Lottie332



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05 Sep 2023, 6:17 am #2,340
S17 has been awarded back to stagecoach and starts from today
Lottie332
05 Sep 2023, 6:17 am #2,340

S17 has been awarded back to stagecoach and starts from today

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