Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes
Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes
(06 Sep 2023, 4:50 pm)Storx Must say, using Bustimes usual caveats, Blyth has turned an absolute shambles the past few days.
If the X7/X8 tracking is right I feel very sorry for whoever is driving 1505 right now. Absolute absurd to cancel 2 peak times X7 out of Newcastle and have a single decker heading in 80 minutes after the first cancelled bus.
There's going to be some right pissed off passengers.
(06 Sep 2023, 4:50 pm)Storx Must say, using Bustimes usual caveats, Blyth has turned an absolute shambles the past few days.
If the X7/X8 tracking is right I feel very sorry for whoever is driving 1505 right now. Absolute absurd to cancel 2 peak times X7 out of Newcastle and have a single decker heading in 80 minutes after the first cancelled bus.
There's going to be some right pissed off passengers.
(06 Sep 2023, 4:50 pm)Storx Must say, using Bustimes usual caveats, Blyth has turned an absolute shambles the past few days.
If the X7/X8 tracking is right I feel very sorry for whoever is driving 1505 right now. Absolute absurd to cancel 2 peak times X7 out of Newcastle and have a single decker heading in 80 minutes after the first cancelled bus.
There's going to be some right pissed off passengers.
(06 Sep 2023, 4:50 pm)Storx Must say, using Bustimes usual caveats, Blyth has turned an absolute shambles the past few days.
If the X7/X8 tracking is right I feel very sorry for whoever is driving 1505 right now. Absolute absurd to cancel 2 peak times X7 out of Newcastle and have a single decker heading in 80 minutes after the first cancelled bus.
There's going to be some right pissed off passengers.
(06 Sep 2023, 4:53 pm)solsburian I'm staying in the office for a bit longer because of it. They really are a joke.
(06 Sep 2023, 5:26 pm)mb134 The 17:45 ran, where is the 80 minute gap in X7s before 1505?
There's reportedly high driver sickness, potentially linked to the new COVID variant.
(06 Sep 2023, 4:53 pm)solsburian I'm staying in the office for a bit longer because of it. They really are a joke.
(06 Sep 2023, 5:26 pm)mb134 The 17:45 ran, where is the 80 minute gap in X7s before 1505?
There's reportedly high driver sickness, potentially linked to the new COVID variant.
(06 Sep 2023, 5:26 pm)mb134 The 17:45 ran, where is the 80 minute gap in X7s before 1505?
There's reportedly high driver sickness, potentially linked to the new COVID variant.
(06 Sep 2023, 5:26 pm)mb134 The 17:45 ran, where is the 80 minute gap in X7s before 1505?
There's reportedly high driver sickness, potentially linked to the new COVID variant.
(06 Sep 2023, 5:33 pm)Storx That would make sense though, mind I'm surprised they're not dropping boards on the 43/44/45 which is more frequent rather than on the X7/X8/X9/X10/X11.
(06 Sep 2023, 4:53 pm)solsburian I'm staying in the office for a bit longer because of it. They really are a joke.
(06 Sep 2023, 5:33 pm)Storx That would make sense though, mind I'm surprised they're not dropping boards on the 43/44/45 which is more frequent rather than on the X7/X8/X9/X10/X11.
(06 Sep 2023, 4:53 pm)solsburian I'm staying in the office for a bit longer because of it. They really are a joke.
(06 Sep 2023, 5:43 pm)mb134 Quite a number of the Blyth 43 boards contain contracted 47 journeys, so I imagine they're prioritising those shifts. They will break at Cramlington and probably do 43 boards their full shift, so it becomes hard to drop many.
I've noticed a lot of Blyth drivers with mentees recently, so once more of them are able to drive solo then the high sickness should be less of an issue.
Nothing that can be done about high driver sickness really, unless you'd want them to work and infect more drivers, leading to even more cancellations?
(06 Sep 2023, 5:43 pm)mb134 Quite a number of the Blyth 43 boards contain contracted 47 journeys, so I imagine they're prioritising those shifts. They will break at Cramlington and probably do 43 boards their full shift, so it becomes hard to drop many.
I've noticed a lot of Blyth drivers with mentees recently, so once more of them are able to drive solo then the high sickness should be less of an issue.
Nothing that can be done about high driver sickness really, unless you'd want them to work and infect more drivers, leading to even more cancellations?
(06 Sep 2023, 5:43 pm)mb134 Nothing that can be done about high driver sickness really, unless you'd want them to work and infect more drivers, leading to even more cancellations?
(06 Sep 2023, 5:43 pm)mb134 Nothing that can be done about high driver sickness really, unless you'd want them to work and infect more drivers, leading to even more cancellations?
(06 Sep 2023, 6:08 pm)Adrian I think you do have to combine this with the industry's long-held inability to retain drivers though. Whilst pulling out of one of the largest labour markets in the world was akin to shooting ourselves in the foot, we are where we are, and operators up and down the country need to resolve this retention issue.Getting rid of the power hungry management who pick on drivers for every little thing yet have barely been behind the wheel of a bus would be a start (not taring all with the same brush)!
(06 Sep 2023, 6:08 pm)Adrian I think you do have to combine this with the industry's long-held inability to retain drivers though. Whilst pulling out of one of the largest labour markets in the world was akin to shooting ourselves in the foot, we are where we are, and operators up and down the country need to resolve this retention issue.Getting rid of the power hungry management who pick on drivers for every little thing yet have barely been behind the wheel of a bus would be a start (not taring all with the same brush)!
(06 Sep 2023, 5:43 pm)mb134 Quite a number of the Blyth 43 boards contain contracted 47 journeys, so I imagine they're prioritising those shifts. They will break at Cramlington and probably do 43 boards their full shift, so it becomes hard to drop many.
I've noticed a lot of Blyth drivers with mentees recently, so once more of them are able to drive solo then the high sickness should be less of an issue.
Nothing that can be done about high driver sickness really, unless you'd want them to work and infect more drivers, leading to even more cancellations?
(06 Sep 2023, 5:43 pm)mb134 Quite a number of the Blyth 43 boards contain contracted 47 journeys, so I imagine they're prioritising those shifts. They will break at Cramlington and probably do 43 boards their full shift, so it becomes hard to drop many.
I've noticed a lot of Blyth drivers with mentees recently, so once more of them are able to drive solo then the high sickness should be less of an issue.
Nothing that can be done about high driver sickness really, unless you'd want them to work and infect more drivers, leading to even more cancellations?
(06 Sep 2023, 6:44 pm)Storx Yeah hopefully, ngl had a feeling initially it might have been the Walkergate closure and sending work across and no driver's to actually do it.
(06 Sep 2023, 6:44 pm)Storx Yeah hopefully, ngl had a feeling initially it might have been the Walkergate closure and sending work across and no driver's to actually do it.
(06 Sep 2023, 5:37 pm)RobinHood Equally confused at that suggested gap in service.
From that I can see, 1505 worked the X11 out of the Newcastle anyway, not the X7 as the normal daytime pattern would suggest.
As mentioned before, bustimes isn't the holy grail of accurate information.
(06 Sep 2023, 5:37 pm)RobinHood Equally confused at that suggested gap in service.
From that I can see, 1505 worked the X11 out of the Newcastle anyway, not the X7 as the normal daytime pattern would suggest.
As mentioned before, bustimes isn't the holy grail of accurate information.
(06 Sep 2023, 7:04 pm)Shrek I was in the Haymarket around 17.20 and the queue in the X7/X8 stand was small. It didn't look like there'd been cancellations or any angry passengers there.
(06 Sep 2023, 7:04 pm)Shrek I was in the Haymarket around 17.20 and the queue in the X7/X8 stand was small. It didn't look like there'd been cancellations or any angry passengers there.
(05 Sep 2023, 10:29 am)Storx Personally don't see the point in it, I can't remember the last time I went to Blyth, if they want to improve the X7, then an earlier Sunday service would be better 10am is stupidly late for the first bus to get into Newcastle.
Not aware of anyone around here who would go to Blyth for drinking either or the cinema, arguably later 19 journeys would be better, possibly by using part of the money from the absolutely pointless North Shields extension on the 57A especially since the whole of East Cramlington has no bus service at night and would give Seghill a Metro link all day.
(05 Sep 2023, 10:29 am)Storx Personally don't see the point in it, I can't remember the last time I went to Blyth, if they want to improve the X7, then an earlier Sunday service would be better 10am is stupidly late for the first bus to get into Newcastle.
Not aware of anyone around here who would go to Blyth for drinking either or the cinema, arguably later 19 journeys would be better, possibly by using part of the money from the absolutely pointless North Shields extension on the 57A especially since the whole of East Cramlington has no bus service at night and would give Seghill a Metro link all day.
A lot of ex Jesmond/Walkergate drivers who live in the Newcastle area and now working at Blyth and Ashington depots just waiting for their resettlement money to be paid before leaving for pastures new.
(08 Sep 2023, 11:17 pm)Driver9*** A lot of ex Jesmond/Walkergate drivers who live in the Newcastle area and now working at Blyth and Ashington depots just waiting for their resettlement money to be paid before leaving for pastues new.
(08 Sep 2023, 11:17 pm)Driver9*** A lot of ex Jesmond/Walkergate drivers who live in the Newcastle area and now working at Blyth and Ashington depots just waiting for their resettlement money to be paid before leaving for pastues new.
(08 Sep 2023, 11:00 pm)solsburian I sampled the last 23:13 X7 to Seghill again tonight, and there was the grand total of... 3 of us on, with the other passengers getting off at Amersham Road and South Beach respectively. The driver pointed out he was my personal taxi and that he was close behind the 57a once you get to Delaval. As I said to the driver, (so far) it seems a bit dumb to subside such a run as it stands, especially when the money could be better used elsewhere, including as you say a earlier Sunday X7 run to Newcastle. I'll try it again in a while to see if it pics up.
(08 Sep 2023, 11:00 pm)solsburian I sampled the last 23:13 X7 to Seghill again tonight, and there was the grand total of... 3 of us on, with the other passengers getting off at Amersham Road and South Beach respectively. The driver pointed out he was my personal taxi and that he was close behind the 57a once you get to Delaval. As I said to the driver, (so far) it seems a bit dumb to subside such a run as it stands, especially when the money could be better used elsewhere, including as you say a earlier Sunday X7 run to Newcastle. I'll try it again in a while to see if it pics up.
(09 Sep 2023, 12:17 am)Driver9*** Can't believe they've brought that last Seghill run back, they had killed it off a few years ago when I used to work for Arriva. Apart from a few old boy drinkers at the weekend you picked no one up. Another waste of subsidy money by NCC.
(09 Sep 2023, 12:17 am)Driver9*** Can't believe they've brought that last Seghill run back, they had killed it off a few years ago when I used to work for Arriva. Apart from a few old boy drinkers at the weekend you picked no one up. Another waste of subsidy money by NCC.
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