(17 Sep 2023, 5:09 pm)Unber43 wrote Seems like for the strike nothing will be running at all, or worse than COVID skeleton, probably on a similar scale if not less to Boxing Day.
Wonder if any none union normal staff will be working, theyll work for money but also reap the rewards of what the Union do
(17 Sep 2023, 9:08 pm)Fleetmaster wrote In the West Midlands the drivers who did turn out simply got the abuse the public were wanting to direct to the striking drivers who had completely wrecked the lives of college students sitting exams etc. No doubt the striking drivers want those drivers to be first in line for the job losses that will result from the higher fares and service cuts made to fund the "reward" the union achieved, since as everyone worked out on day one, National Express Group shareholders have absolutely intention of diverting profits from other units to fund pay awards in this one relatively small part of this global business, contrary to what Unite said should happen (and are repeating here).Well there are no exams in October so its alright!
(17 Sep 2023, 9:08 pm)Fleetmaster wrote In the West Midlands the drivers who did turn out simply got the abuse the public were wanting to direct to the striking drivers who had completely wrecked the lives of college students sitting exams etc. No doubt the striking drivers want those drivers to be first in line for the job losses that will result from the higher fares and service cuts made to fund the "reward" the union achieved, since as everyone worked out on day one, National Express Group shareholders have absolutely intention of diverting profits from other units to fund pay awards in this one relatively small part of this global business, contrary to what Unite said should happen (and are repeating here).
(18 Sep 2023, 9:18 am)Ambassador wrote Completely wrecked? Dear lord, the embittered 6th form politics reaction. You realise causing disruption is the point of a strike?
NatEx got a 16% pay rise and protected their terms and conditions (and actually improved some of them)
If you believe that Unions are behind the current issues then there's no hope for you.
(17 Sep 2023, 9:08 pm)Fleetmaster wrote In the West Midlands the drivers who did turn out simply got the abuse the public were wanting to direct to the striking drivers who had completely wrecked the lives of college students sitting exams etc. No doubt the striking drivers want those drivers to be first in line for the job losses that will result from the higher fares and service cuts made to fund the "reward" the union achieved, since as everyone worked out on day one, National Express Group shareholders have absolutely intention of diverting profits from other units to fund pay awards in this one relatively small part of this global business, contrary to what Unite said should happen (and are repeating here).
(14 Sep 2023, 8:18 pm)R852 PRG wrote Historically, conditions were not standardised and varied on a depot-to-depot basis. In each depot's establishment, there are rotas for drivers who are on paid meal breaks and those on unpaid meal breaks; in most depots, the rotas for unpaid meal breaks are larger than those for paid meal breaks, although this has been facilitated through the departure of older drivers on historic conditions and the influx of newer drivers on newer conditions.
As an example, at Chester, there was one large unpaid breaks rota, a paid breaks rota - which got progressively smaller as old hands left - and a 4 day rota with unpaid breaks only. At Gateshead, by comparison, there are paid and unpaid breaks for both the Green Rota (historically Sunderland Road routes in and around eastern Gateshead, with changeovers at Gateshead Metro) and the Red Rota (predominantly ex-Winlaton stuff, with the exception of the 49s etc; driver changeovers at the Metrocentre). Both the Green and Red Rotas have subsidiary 4 day rotas, with each having paid and unpaid lines in accordance with drivers' conditions.
Nowadays, most drivers across the company are on standardised terms and conditions with unpaid meal breaks, however, some - mostly longer serving drivers - are on paid meal breaks. With time, paid meal breaks have become the minority in most depots. Deptford is an exception to this rule, with a higher proportion of drivers having paid meal breaks.
(18 Sep 2023, 9:18 am)Ambassador wrote Completely wrecked? Dear lord, the embittered 6th form politics reaction. You realise causing disruption is the point of a strike?
(18 Sep 2023, 12:14 pm)logidoodah wrote Ah well that makes sense. There has been many a time that buses from park lane leave late because the drivers are smoking or havent came down from their breaks yet.... Must be why they are less enthused to be back to driving as opposed to needing to earn a living in other depots...
(18 Sep 2023, 3:48 pm)Storx wrote https://www.unitetheunion.org/news-event...ke-action/
Seen the strike dates have formally been announced now.
(18 Sep 2023, 4:42 pm)Dan wrote Interesting both parties are claiming that the other did not want to negotiate.
https://www.gonortheast.co.uk/go-north-e...ACAS-talks
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(18 Sep 2023, 4:42 pm)Dan wrote Interesting both parties are claiming that the other did not want to negotiate.
https://www.gonortheast.co.uk/go-north-e...ACAS-talks
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(18 Sep 2023, 3:48 pm)Storx wrote https://www.unitetheunion.org/news-event...ke-action/
Seen the strike dates have formally been announced now.
(18 Sep 2023, 4:42 pm)Dan wrote Interesting both parties are claiming that the other did not want to negotiate.
https://www.gonortheast.co.uk/go-north-e...ACAS-talks
(18 Sep 2023, 6:24 pm)NL62WVW wrote [quote="streetdeckfan" pid="301068" dateline="1695056675"]
Nope GNE walked away
(18 Sep 2023, 6:14 pm)Dans_bus_photos wrote Maybe if they stopped going on about how much money they are loosing, employees and unions might have a little more faith of getting a respectable pay rise. No where that is loss making is going to plow money into additional staffing costs if they can get away with not doing it. Possibly a reason why the unions are pushing ahead with strike action so quickly.
(18 Sep 2023, 6:40 pm)BusLoverMum wrote Lucky you, not having to be anywhere.Oh I do, I need to go into Newcastle several days during the strike, I will be getting the train (maybe £6 more but still)
(19 Sep 2023, 8:10 pm)Unber43 wrote wonder when they will be releasing the timetable, got to be done by Monday i would sayI can't see it being anything other than last minute. It's almost impossible for them to have an accurate idea of what resource is available to them, other than the bare minimum; that being managers they hold over a barrel to strike break, or the usual scabs who are happy to do the dirty on their colleagues, whilst reaping the reward that any outcome brings.