(27 Oct 2023, 1:23 pm)Bazza wrote Notes to editors
The average wage at Go North East is just £12.83 per hour yet the same workers at Go North West earn £15.53 per hour. That would mean workers in Newcastle and Sunderland would require a pay rise of over 20 per cent to earn the same as those in Manchester.
This equates to a loss of £105 per week on a 39-hour week or £5,475 per year.
Additional research by Unite shows that Go North East workers have not had a pay rise for over five years (when adjusted for inflation) and their salaries have actually fallen by 5 per cent since 2018.
Meanwhile, the highest paid director at Go North East was paid £185,000 in 2022. This is 6 times the pay of the average employee. Go North East is part of the wider Go Ahead Group of companies. Their last accounts show their bus division made profits of nearly £85million[2].
Above is a quote from Unite’s press release. I don’t think GNE would publicise these stats
(27 Oct 2023, 1:03 pm)markydh wrote Ben Maxwell is a man-child from the school of Donald Trump and Boris Johnson. The statements he makes make a toddler seem professional. It never ceases to amaze me that people like that rise way above their capability.Will his next statement be “loss making GNE closes depots and cuts services”?
(27 Oct 2023, 1:47 pm)busmanT wrote All those stats are publicly available.
GNE made a loss of £4.5m last year.
GNE drivers received at least a 10% pay rise last year - between 2018 and 2022 there was of course the COVID-19 pandemic which depressed everybody’s pay.
Go North West drivers do a lot more work in a shift than GNE drivers do in the same shift length - that’s why they get paid more per hour.
Will his next statement be “loss making GNE closes depots and cuts services”?
(27 Oct 2023, 1:47 pm)busmanT wrote Will his next statement be “loss making GNE closes depots and cuts services”?
(27 Oct 2023, 1:47 pm)busmanT wrote Will his next statement be “loss making GNE closes depots and cuts services”?
(27 Oct 2023, 1:47 pm)busmanT wrote All those stats are publicly available.
GNE made a loss of £4.5m last year.
GNE drivers received at least a 10% pay rise last year - between 2018 and 2022 there was of course the COVID-19 pandemic which depressed everybody’s pay.
Go North West drivers do a lot more work in a shift than GNE drivers do in the same shift length - that’s why they get paid more per hour.
Will his next statement be “loss making GNE closes depots and cuts services”?
busmanT ' wrote Will his next statement be “loss making GNE closes depots and cuts services”?
(27 Oct 2023, 2:59 pm)ne14ne1 wrote While at Gateshead Interchange yesterday and then boarding a bus I overhead 3 separate conversations where they were not at all in support of GNE drivers, and two other conversations about the poor state of GNE’s service in general.
I was quite surprised at the tone & atmosphere it caused to be honest but I suppose for people who have no other means of transport, especially those living on the breadline will find it difficult to sympathise now.
I wonder what it’s like as today’s news filters through.
(27 Oct 2023, 3:11 pm)streetdeckfan wrote Unsurprising but expected.
I'd love to see their faces when the strikes end and the passengers aren't there to fund the pay rise.
What's that old saying, don't bite the hand that feeds you?
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(27 Oct 2023, 3:11 pm)streetdeckfan wrote Unsurprising and expected.
I'd love to see their faces when the strikes end and the passengers aren't there to fund the pay rise.
What's that old saying, don't bite the hand that feeds you?
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(27 Oct 2023, 3:11 pm)streetdeckfan wrote Unsurprising and expected.
I'd love to see their faces when the strikes end and the passengers aren't there to fund the pay rise.
What's that old saying, don't bite the hand that feeds you?
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(27 Oct 2023, 3:11 pm)streetdeckfan wrote Unsurprising and expected.Yes, and Go North East management have been doing it for many years. Indeed all the bus companies have been playing the game with the hand that feeds them, either via BSOG or by forcing cash-strapped local authorities to part-fund supposedly loss-making journeys, knowing full well that it’s the local authority that will get the blame if they aren’t funded. And then they wonder why the hand that feeds them wants to control the hand that they feed.
I'd love to see their faces when the strikes end and the passengers aren't there to fund the pay rise.
What's that old saying, don't bite the hand that feeds you?
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(27 Oct 2023, 3:11 pm)streetdeckfan wrote Unsurprising and expected.
I'd love to see their faces when the strikes end and the passengers aren't there to fund the pay rise.
What's that old saying, don't bite the hand that feeds you?
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(27 Oct 2023, 3:11 pm)streetdeckfan wrote Unsurprising and expected.
I'd love to see their faces when the strikes end and the passengers aren't there to fund the pay rise.
What's that old saying, don't bite the hand that feeds you?
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(27 Oct 2023, 3:28 pm)Rob44 wrote One minute punters are crying cause they cant get to the bingo, shops etc....
Then, according to the above, they are going to boycott the buses when they do come back and still even though they still wont be able to get to bingo shops etc??
What a load of TOSH!!!
(27 Oct 2023, 3:32 pm)Chris 1 wrote As far as old sayings go, I prefer “A fair days pay for a fair days work” personally but each to their own.
As a headline, 10% doesn’t sound too shabby at all. There must be some size devil in the detail though, if after 2 previous weeks strike action and the prospect of even more, members are still resoundingly voting to reject. A horrible situation for all concerned.
(27 Oct 2023, 3:11 pm)streetdeckfan wrote Unsurprising and expected.And I bet some of the passengers complaining are the ones who put "petty" complaints in that lead to a driver going through a fully blown tea & biccies session!
I'd love to see their faces when the strikes end and the passengers aren't there to fund the pay rise.
What's that old saying, don't bite the hand that feeds you?
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(27 Oct 2023, 3:43 pm)Adrian wrote It doesn't, but in the context of RPI being at 9% or so back in July 2023 (which offer is backdated to), it's only a substantive pay increase of 1%. The rest is simply keeping pay up with inflation.Isn't that the point of a pay rise? To keep up with inflation?
(27 Oct 2023, 3:30 pm)idiot wrote This. If there not happy change jobs.
(27 Oct 2023, 3:30 pm)idiot wrote This. If there not happy change jobs.
(27 Oct 2023, 3:49 pm)streetdeckfan wrote Isn't that the point of a pay rise? To keep up with inflation?
They aren't doing any additional work so why would they get paid more?
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(27 Oct 2023, 3:50 pm)Rob44 wrote From the chronicle
However, customer services director Huw Lewis wrote in a note to stakeholders that this “has not been possible as there are not enough vehicles and drivers to be able to cover such a large commercial bus network in the region”.
Alistair Ford, of the North East Public Transport Users Group, added that he was “very concerned by the highly-disruptive impact these strikes are having”. He said: “ We urge the bus company and the union to engage seriously to resolve the dispute as soon as possible.
"We also, however, understand the concerns of bus drivers and their demand for an improved pay offer. Bus driving is a skilled profession and wages should reflect that. Lothian Buses in Edinburgh, owned by local councils, pays their drivers up to £18 an hour compared to the £14 being offered by Go North East. Our transport system and the safety of passengers relies on a well-paid and well-trained workforce if it is to be sustainable in the future."
Interesting that they've looked at other operators coving routes and found it wouldn't be feedable to do.
Also Scottish bus drivers get 18 ph!!!