Tender Discussion Thread
Tender Discussion Thread
(24 Mar 2014, 3:56 pm)Tom I know the 74/688/689 are up for tender, are Go North East retaining these services?
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Are the 74/688/689 grouped together as one contract or does each have its own tender?
If so, then it's not out of the question for Weardale, Stanley Taxis or even Garnetts to bid for the 689 as the service both starts and finishes in Consett.
However, I can't see anyone else bidding for the 74/688 as both start and finish in Hexham. I suppose Tyne Valley Coaches could bid on these tenders, but, the question has to be asked, do they have enough buses to cover these contracts?
Presumably, the H11 and H53 are tendered services but what about the 683 and 687?
(24 Mar 2014, 5:20 pm)AdamY Are the 74/688/689 grouped together as one contract or does each have its own tender?
If so, then it's not out of the question for Weardale, Stanley Taxis or even Garnetts to bid for the 689 as the service both starts and finishes in Consett.
However, I can't see anyone else bidding for the 74/688 as both start and finish in Hexham. I suppose Tyne Valley Coaches could bid on these tenders, but, the question has to be asked, do they have enough buses to cover these contracts?
Presumably, the H11 and H53 are tendered services but what about the 683 and 687?
(24 Mar 2014, 5:20 pm)AdamY Are the 74/688/689 grouped together as one contract or does each have its own tender?
If so, then it's not out of the question for Weardale, Stanley Taxis or even Garnetts to bid for the 689 as the service both starts and finishes in Consett.
However, I can't see anyone else bidding for the 74/688 as both start and finish in Hexham. I suppose Tyne Valley Coaches could bid on these tenders, but, the question has to be asked, do they have enough buses to cover these contracts?
Presumably, the H11 and H53 are tendered services but what about the 683 and 687?
(24 Mar 2014, 5:22 pm)Tom I don't see why Arriva can't bid for the 74 as the evening journeys start/finish in Matfen.
(24 Mar 2014, 5:22 pm)Tom I don't see why Arriva can't bid for the 74 as the evening journeys start/finish in Matfen.
(24 Mar 2014, 5:33 pm)AdamY Looking at the timetable, there is one (Monday-Saturday) evening journey which starts/finishes in Matfen arriving at 21:50 before heading back into Newcastle at 22:00. After returning to Newcastle, it then operates on the 23:00 service back to Hexham where it ends.
The 74A terminates at Matfen on a Sunday. It also starts/finishes at Newcastle. If this is also a separate contract then there is no reason why Arriva or even Stagecoach can't bid for this tender. However, if both services are included in the same tender, then there would be a lot of dead mileage running to Hexham and back during the week.
(24 Mar 2014, 5:33 pm)AdamY Looking at the timetable, there is one (Monday-Saturday) evening journey which starts/finishes in Matfen arriving at 21:50 before heading back into Newcastle at 22:00. After returning to Newcastle, it then operates on the 23:00 service back to Hexham where it ends.
The 74A terminates at Matfen on a Sunday. It also starts/finishes at Newcastle. If this is also a separate contract then there is no reason why Arriva or even Stagecoach can't bid for this tender. However, if both services are included in the same tender, then there would be a lot of dead mileage running to Hexham and back during the week.
(24 Mar 2014, 5:40 pm)Tom Think it'd have to be Go North East then unless they add a extra journey back to Newcastle at 0020 from Hexham?
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The tenders in Northumberland were to start on 7th April, however all existing contracts have now been extended until 1st September.
The routes up for tender were
74 Hexham - Newcastle
79 Ponteland - Morpeth
613 Whittonstall - Hexham
681 Slaggyford - Haltwhistle
683 Hexham - Newbrough
688 Hexham - Allenheads
689 Consett - Hexham
691 Morpeth and Upper Coquetdale "Dial a ride"
693/694 Hexham and Kielder "Dial a ride"
695 Hexham and Blanchland "Dial a ride"
696 Carrshield and Hexham "Dial a ride"
808 Otterburn - Newcastle
880 Bellingham - Hexham
882 Bellingham/Colwell - Hexham
883 Byrness - Hexham
889 Alston - Hexham
915 Otterburn - Kielder - Bellingham
AD122 Hadrians Wall (Newcastle based board)
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(24 Mar 2014, 6:00 pm)tyresmoke The tenders in Northumberland were to start on 7th April, however all existing contracts have now been extended until 1st September.
The routes up for tender were
74 Hexham - Newcastle
79 Ponteland - Morpeth
613 Whittonstall - Hexham
681 Slaggyford - Haltwhistle
683 Hexham - Newbrough
688 Hexham - Allenheads
689 Consett - Hexham
691 Morpeth and Upper Coquetdale "Dial a ride"
693/694 Hexham and Kielder "Dial a ride"
695 Hexham and Blanchland "Dial a ride"
696 Carrshield and Hexham "Dial a ride"
808 Otterburn - Newcastle
880 Bellingham - Hexham
882 Bellingham/Colwell - Hexham
883 Byrness - Hexham
889 Alston - Hexham
915 Otterburn - Kielder - Bellingham
AD122 Hadrians Wall (Newcastle based board)
(24 Mar 2014, 6:00 pm)tyresmoke The tenders in Northumberland were to start on 7th April, however all existing contracts have now been extended until 1st September.
The routes up for tender were
74 Hexham - Newcastle
79 Ponteland - Morpeth
613 Whittonstall - Hexham
681 Slaggyford - Haltwhistle
683 Hexham - Newbrough
688 Hexham - Allenheads
689 Consett - Hexham
691 Morpeth and Upper Coquetdale "Dial a ride"
693/694 Hexham and Kielder "Dial a ride"
695 Hexham and Blanchland "Dial a ride"
696 Carrshield and Hexham "Dial a ride"
808 Otterburn - Newcastle
880 Bellingham - Hexham
882 Bellingham/Colwell - Hexham
883 Byrness - Hexham
889 Alston - Hexham
915 Otterburn - Kielder - Bellingham
AD122 Hadrians Wall (Newcastle based board)
(24 Mar 2014, 6:03 pm)Tom Are the services highlighted in red new services?
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(24 Mar 2014, 6:03 pm)Tom Are the services highlighted in red new services?
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The 79 was a service which operated between Newcastle and Morpeth via Ponteland. I'd imagine, at some point, it was curtailed to operate between Ponteland and Morpeth only.
The 613 has ran since the late 70's (possibly before) between Whittonstall (sometimes Hedley) and Hexham.
(24 Mar 2014, 6:06 pm)tyresmoke No Tom, Howard Snaith run them both
79 runs every Wednesday, it starts at the Airport... 613 appears to be every Tuesday
http://www.howardsnaith.co.uk/79.pdf
http://www.howardsnaith.co.uk/613.pdf
(24 Mar 2014, 6:06 pm)AdamY The 79 was a service which operated between Newcastle and Morpeth via Ponteland. I'd imagine, at some point, it was curtailed to operate between Ponteland and Morpeth only.
The 613 has ran since the late 70's (possibly before) between Whittonstall (sometimes Hedley) and Hexham.
(24 Mar 2014, 6:06 pm)tyresmoke No Tom, Howard Snaith run them both
79 runs every Wednesday, it starts at the Airport... 613 appears to be every Tuesday
http://www.howardsnaith.co.uk/79.pdf
http://www.howardsnaith.co.uk/613.pdf
(24 Mar 2014, 6:06 pm)AdamY The 79 was a service which operated between Newcastle and Morpeth via Ponteland. I'd imagine, at some point, it was curtailed to operate between Ponteland and Morpeth only.
The 613 has ran since the late 70's (possibly before) between Whittonstall (sometimes Hedley) and Hexham.
(24 Mar 2014, 6:13 pm)Tom Thanks both, I think there are also other additional services that run to Hexham on a Tuesday as that is market day.
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(24 Mar 2014, 6:13 pm)Tom Thanks both, I think there are also other additional services that run to Hexham on a Tuesday as that is market day.
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(24 Mar 2014, 6:13 pm)Tom Thanks both, I think there are also other additional services that run to Hexham on a Tuesday as that is market day.
(24 Mar 2014, 6:13 pm)Tom Thanks both, I think there are also other additional services that run to Hexham on a Tuesday as that is market day.
(24 Mar 2014, 6:18 pm)tyresmoke Sure are, that 883 and the 889 are also Tuesday market day services. 889 is run by Wright Bros at present. The 883 is Howard Snaith if I remember right. You'll usually find the coach park full during the summer.
(24 Mar 2014, 6:20 pm)AdamY I uploaded an old West Northumberland timetable to the Bygone era a few months back. The Hexham services are included in that and, apart from GNE/Arriva depot swap and the service changes initiated from that, nothing much else has changed except from the odd operator.
Take a look:
West Northumberland (May 1982 - April 1983)
(24 Mar 2014, 6:18 pm)tyresmoke Sure are, that 883 and the 889 are also Tuesday market day services. 889 is run by Wright Bros at present. The 883 is Howard Snaith if I remember right. You'll usually find the coach park full during the summer.
(24 Mar 2014, 6:20 pm)AdamY I uploaded an old West Northumberland timetable to the Bygone era a few months back. The Hexham services are included in that and, apart from GNE/Arriva depot swap and the service changes initiated from that, nothing much else has changed except from the odd operator.
Take a look:
West Northumberland (May 1982 - April 1983)
(24 Mar 2014, 6:24 pm)Tom So you know how you said the contracts has been extended until September, does that exclude the AD122?
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(24 Mar 2014, 6:24 pm)Tom So you know how you said the contracts has been extended until September, does that exclude the AD122?
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(24 Mar 2014, 6:27 pm)tyresmoke As far as I know - yes it does. Appears that the funding is jointly provided by Northumberland and Cumbria, of which Cumbria have pulled their part. So it looks very much like there will be no AD122 this summer, unless some funding can be found to provide a limited service.
(24 Mar 2014, 6:27 pm)tyresmoke As far as I know - yes it does. Appears that the funding is jointly provided by Northumberland and Cumbria, of which Cumbria have pulled their part. So it looks very much like there will be no AD122 this summer, unless some funding can be found to provide a limited service.
The 74A terminates at Matfen on a Sunday. It also starts/finishes at Newcastle. If this is also a separate contract then there is no reason why Arriva or even Stagecoach can't bid for this tender. However, if both services are included in the same tender, then there would be a lot of dead mileage running to Hexham and back during the week.
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I am lead to believe, that the Sunday 74A Starts at Hexham as service X84, and finishes at Hexham as X84. This is why the times of X84 are at 'strange' times. The additional trips on X84 are meal relief trips I believe.
My opinion is that the 74A on Sunday should be operated by Saltmeadows using a Solo, and the X84 should be retimed to provide more convenient times, and be run by Saltmeadows as well using a solo, or a Quaylink. (with trips Newcastle-Ovington only).
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As for the Nexus stuff....
K1/K2 Killingworth locals - won by Phoenix Coaches
Mon-Sat daytime - Euro 3 - PVR 1 - size restriction 7100mm length
15/15A Kenton Shops - Walker - won by Stagecoach
Saturday daytime - Euro 4 - PVR 4
17 Rosehill - Cramlington - won by Phoenix Coaches
Mon-Sat evening - Euro 3 - PVR 3
18 Benton Estate - Walker - Not awarded
Saturday daytime - Euro 3 - PVR 3
32/32A Four Lane Ends - Benwell (- Newcastle on Sat only) - Not awarded
Mon-Sat daytime - Euro 3 - PVR 3 (6 on Sat) - size restriction 11000mm length
includes service 16 Four Lane Ends - Byker Sat daytime
33 Newcastle - Hollywood Ave - won by Kingsleys
Mon-Sat daytime - Euro 3 - PVR 2
35 Newcastle - Red House Farm - won by Stagecoach
Saturday daytime - Euro 4 - PVR 2
71A Kingston Park - Throckley Ind Est - won by Gateshead Central Taxis
Mon-Sat eve, Sunday daytime - Euro 3 - PVR 1
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(24 Mar 2014, 7:34 pm)tyresmoke As for the Nexus stuff....
K1/K2 Killingworth locals - won by Phoenix Coaches
Mon-Sat daytime - Euro 3 - PVR 1 - size restriction 7100mm length
15/15A Kenton Shops - Walker - won by Stagecoach
Saturday daytime - Euro 4 - PVR 4
17 Rosehill - Cramlington - won by Phoenix Coaches
Mon-Sat evening - Euro 3 - PVR 3
18 Benton Estate - Walker - Not awarded
Saturday daytime - Euro 3 - PVR 3
32/32A Four Lane Ends - Benwell (- Newcastle on Sat only) - Not awarded
Mon-Sat daytime - Euro 3 - PVR 3 (6 on Sat) - size restriction 11000mm length
includes service 16 Four Lane Ends - Byker Sat daytime
33 Newcastle - Hollywood Ave - won by Kingsleys
Mon-Sat daytime - Euro 3 - PVR 2
35 Newcastle - Red House Farm - won by Stagecoach
Saturday daytime - Euro 4 - PVR 2
71A Kingston Park - Throckley Ind Est - won by Gateshead Central Taxis
Mon-Sat eve, Sunday daytime - Euro 3 - PVR 1
(24 Mar 2014, 7:34 pm)tyresmoke As for the Nexus stuff....
K1/K2 Killingworth locals - won by Phoenix Coaches
Mon-Sat daytime - Euro 3 - PVR 1 - size restriction 7100mm length
15/15A Kenton Shops - Walker - won by Stagecoach
Saturday daytime - Euro 4 - PVR 4
17 Rosehill - Cramlington - won by Phoenix Coaches
Mon-Sat evening - Euro 3 - PVR 3
18 Benton Estate - Walker - Not awarded
Saturday daytime - Euro 3 - PVR 3
32/32A Four Lane Ends - Benwell (- Newcastle on Sat only) - Not awarded
Mon-Sat daytime - Euro 3 - PVR 3 (6 on Sat) - size restriction 11000mm length
includes service 16 Four Lane Ends - Byker Sat daytime
33 Newcastle - Hollywood Ave - won by Kingsleys
Mon-Sat daytime - Euro 3 - PVR 2
35 Newcastle - Red House Farm - won by Stagecoach
Saturday daytime - Euro 4 - PVR 2
71A Kingston Park - Throckley Ind Est - won by Gateshead Central Taxis
Mon-Sat eve, Sunday daytime - Euro 3 - PVR 1