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MrFozz   10 Jun 2014, 7:33 pm
(10 Jun 2014, 4:40 pm)AdamY wrote Apparently this match occurred on November 11th 2008. I don't know why this match has been omitted from Cagematch - all of his other matches are listed including 'dark' matches/tryouts. Very strange!


I used to love MNM. Great theme music, great entrance, great gimmick.

I liked Melina...What happened to MNM, I stopped watching for a while and when I started watching again they had all gone
Half Pint   10 Jun 2014, 8:14 pm
(10 Jun 2014, 5:39 pm)AdamY wrote From what I've seen, Mark Dallas comes across as a genuinely nice guy. A bit like Paul Heyman but without all the bullshit. Out of interest, who else did you meet at the show?

I also like how ICW are touring now. Until recently, it was only All-Star which did tours, but now you have the likes of ICW, LDN and a few other promotions putting on shows around the country. I will definitely attend their return show in Newcastle - providing I can get a ticket of courseWink

Are you going to the Tidal or/and MEW shows towards the end of the month?

Think I'm busy when Tidal comes and regards MEW, not really fussed it's probs going to be the same folks from Embryonix. from ICE I met Big Damo, Joe Coffey etc. ICW don't do backstage tickets or meet and greet they come out and meet you. They are such an awesome promotion. If you keep an eye out on ICW youtube channel the next 2 shows will be the Newcastle show. If it wasn't for ICW I'd probs have lost my interest in wrestling as WWE to me is for kids and TNA is just trying to be something.

Mind there's a few good British promotions like HXC, Fight Club pro...just tend to keep away from family entertainment crap.
MurdnunoC   10 Jun 2014, 9:43 pm
(10 Jun 2014, 7:33 pm)marxistafozzski wrote I liked Melina...What happened to MNM, I stopped watching for a while and when I started watching again they had all gone

Melina: Got popular due to her 'split' ring entrance; started to develop a real-life diva-esque attitude which made her unpopular with colleageues and management; was with John Morrison/Jonny Nitro before Big Dave started sorting her out and got bored with her; management eventually tired of her attitude and her contract was not renewed when up for renewal in 2011. Unlikely to be back anytime soon.

Nitro: Became John Morrison in ECW and started tagging with The Miz. The team eventually split and both feuded for a short while before The Miz went on to win the World Title and headline at Wrestlemania 27. Morrison got lost in the shuffle and became a very bland baby-face before deciding to try his luck on the independents after his contract ran out. Will probably be back someday.

Mercury/Matthews: Self-confessed drug-addict who got his act together before getting his big break with WWE; got injured and, as part of his recovery, was prescribed opiates; got into trouble and was eventually released by WWE in 2007; went into rehab and was eventually rehired; had a short run as part of CM Punk's Straight Edge Society; was offered a position as a trainer working with in developmental - a position which he accepted. Mercury is well-liked and well-regarded by everyone he's helped to train as well as management. Out of the three, he's probably the biggest success story and as long as he keeps on the straight and narrow, he's unlikely to lose his job anytime soon.
MrFozz   10 Jun 2014, 9:48 pm
(10 Jun 2014, 9:43 pm)AdamY wrote Melina: Got popular due to her 'split' ring entrance; started to develop a real-life diva-esque attitude which made her unpopular with colleageues and management; was with John Morrison/Jonny Nitro before Big Dave started sorting her out and got bored with her; management eventually tired of her attitude and her contract was not renewed when up for renewal in 2011. Unlikely to be back anytime soon.

Nitro: Became John Morrison in ECW and started tagging with The Miz. The team eventually split and both feuded for a short while before The Miz went on to win the World Title and headline at Wrestlemania 27. Morrison got lost in the shuffle and became a very bland baby-face before deciding to try his luck on the independents after his contract ran out. Will probably be back someday.

Mercury/Matthews: Self-confessed drug-addict who got his act together before getting his big break with WWE; got injured and, as part of his recovery, was prescribed opiates; got into trouble and was eventually released by WWE in 2007; went into rehab and was eventually rehired; had a short run as part of CM Punk's Straight Edge Society; was offered a position as a trainer working with in developmental - a position which he accepted. Mercury is well-liked and well-regarded by everyone he's helped to train as well as management. Out of the three, he's probably the biggest success story and as long as he keeps on the straight and narrow, he's unlikely to lose his job anytime soon.

Cheers mate
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MrFozz   10 Jun 2014, 10:14 pm
After seeing Bazzas rant on Colback and how the whole thing has blown up, it kind of reminds of Dave Wills, and American wrestling who breaks down in tears while talking to Terry Funk



I have spoke to this guy many times on Social Media, and if I remember correctly he told me he never expected it to take off like it did, it ended up getting the attention of people like Jimmy Kimmel
MurdnunoC   10 Jun 2014, 10:24 pm
(10 Jun 2014, 8:14 pm)Half Pint wrote Think I'm busy when Tidal comes and regards MEW, not really fussed it's probs going to be the same folks from Embryonix.

I definitely want to go and see Tidal but, like you, I'm not too fussed about MEW. I don't know whether Dan Fitch still has anything to do with the promotion but I remember when he first started promoting shows under the MEW banner in 2005 he had all these plans to run shows in flashy venues featuring top British talent. This is certainly a long-way from that. I didn't think much of AJ Anderson when he was wrestling for wZw back in 2004-06 and I don't particularity want to see him in 2014 seemingly positioned at the top of the card with other various wZw alumni. However, I haven't seen any of the Embryonix bunch so I might pop along for that - if I'm not busy of course!
MurdnunoC   10 Jun 2014, 10:30 pm
(10 Jun 2014, 10:14 pm)marxistafozzski wrote After seeing Bazzas rant on Colback and how the whole thing has blown up, it kind of reminds of Dave Wills, and American wrestling who breaks down in tears while talking to Terry Funk



I have spoke to this guy many times on Social Media, and if I remember correctly he told me he never expected it to take off like it did, it ended up getting the attention of people like Jimmy Kimmel

And apparently it made him a little bit of money. He was booked to appear at wrestling conventions as well as making appearances on a variety of television shows.

Good on him.
Half Pint   10 Jun 2014, 10:34 pm
(10 Jun 2014, 10:24 pm)AdamY wrote I definitely want to go and see Tidal but, like you, I'm not too fussed about MEW. I don't know whether Dan Fitch still has anything to do with the promotion but I remember when he first started promoting shows under the MEW banner in 2005 he had all these plans to run shows in flashy venues featuring top British talent. This is certainly a long-way from that. I didn't think much of AJ Anderson when he was wrestling for wZw back in 2004-06 and I don't particularity want to see him in 2014 seemingly positioned at the top of the card with other various wZw alumni. However, I haven't seen any of the Embryonix bunch so I might pop along for that - if I'm not busy of course!

Embryonix is more South Shields based, and is it's own wrestling school, so graduates then go out and wrestle the shows. It's something I'm looking to do in a few months time. Just got few months of the gym to look at first.
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MurdnunoC   10 Jun 2014, 10:54 pm
(10 Jun 2014, 10:34 pm)Half Pint wrote Embryonix is more South Shields based, and is it's own wrestling school, so graduates then go out and wrestle the shows. It's something I'm looking to do in a few months time. Just got few months of the gym to look at first.

I've tried doing it in the past; it's harder than you think. I think I lasted about four sessions before I decided to quit. The deciding factor for me was when I bumped wrong and hurt my back. It wasn't anything serious, however I'd just started a job which required me to lift things and I didn't want to jeopardise that.

If you're waiting a few months to train then there might be a school opening in Birtley in the not-too-distant future. I won't go into too many details in case it doesn't materialise but it will be ran by someone who's considered a big name on the British scene. You might want to check it out when the time comes.
Half Pint   11 Jun 2014, 12:20 pm
(10 Jun 2014, 10:54 pm)AdamY wrote I've tried doing it in the past; it's harder than you think. I think I lasted about four sessions before I decided to quit. The deciding factor for me was when I bumped wrong and hurt my back. It wasn't anything serious, however I'd just started a job which required me to lift things and I didn't want to jeopardise that.

If you're waiting a few months to train then there might be a school opening in Birtley in the not-too-distant future. I won't go into too many details in case it doesn't materialise but it will be ran by someone who's considered a big name on the British scene. You might want to check it out when the time comes.

Wrestled before, so know how stressful it is lol. Building myself back up as years since I last was in the ring and like you took a back bump wrong and it didn't feel nice at all.
Malarkey   12 Jun 2014, 6:28 pm
WWE have today Released a Number of Talents which include:

Drew McIntyre
Jinder Mahal
Aksana
Curt Hawkins
Theodore Long
Camacho
Brodus Clay
Evan Bourne
Yoshi Tatsu
Marc Harris (referee)

Confirmation:
http://www.wwe.com/inside/wwe-releases-b...ne-12-2014

I am disappointed that Santino Marella isn't on there along with Zack Ryder, No doubt this so Vince can offer CM Punk an overpaid Contract in a few weeks, As I have he planning on doing that.
MurdnunoC   12 Jun 2014, 10:16 pm
(12 Jun 2014, 6:28 pm)NEBCD Malarkey wrote WWE have today Released a Number of Talents which include:

Drew McIntyre
Jinder Mahal
Aksana
Curt Hawkins
Theodore Long
Camacho
Brodus Clay
Evan Bourne
Yoshi Tatsu
Marc Harris (referee)

Confirmation:
http://www.wwe.com/inside/wwe-releases-b...ne-12-2014

I am disappointed that Santino Marella isn't on there along with Zack Ryder, No doubt this so Vince can offer CM Punk an overpaid Contract in a few weeks, As I have he planning on doing that.

Curt Hawkins is a decent hand and could be used as a trainer in developmental. From what I've heard people speak highly of him so I have a feeling he'll be back at some point.

As for the rest - no great loss. I feel a little bit sorry for Yoshi and Drew but it's not like they were an integral part of the product or anything.

WWE have a poor track record with Japanese wrestlers which doesn't really bode well for former NOAH star, KENTA, who has reportedly been signed and is currently awaiting his visa (along with Prince Devitt).
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MrFozz   12 Jun 2014, 10:24 pm
(12 Jun 2014, 10:16 pm)AdamY wrote Curt Hawkins is a decent hand and could be used as a trainer in developmental. From what I've heard people speak highly of him so I have a feeling he'll be back at some point.

As for the rest - no great loss. I feel a little bit sorry for Yoshi and Drew but it's not like they were an integral part of the product or anything.

WWE have a poor track record with Japanese wrestlers which doesn't really bode well for former NOAH star, KENTA, who has reportedly been signed and is currently awaiting his visa (along with Prince Devitt).

I always used to laugh at Kaientai (Taka Michinoku and Funaki) with there comical badly dubbed promos....EEEEVVVVVIIIIIILLLLL
MurdnunoC   12 Jun 2014, 10:44 pm
(12 Jun 2014, 10:24 pm)marxistafozzski wrote I always used to laugh at Kaientai (Taka Michinoku and Funaki) with there comical badly dubbed promos....EEEEVVVVVIIIIIILLLLL

Before that, WWE's version of Kaientai were probably most noted for trying to severe the penis of Val Venis with Wally Yamaguchi uttering the memorable line "Choppy Choppy your pee pee"



I love Kaientai by the way - one of my favourite stables in professional wrestling along with the nWo, Crazy MAX and The Shield. Their stuff from Michinoku Pro Wrestling (1995-97) is quality.
MrFozz   12 Jun 2014, 10:52 pm
(12 Jun 2014, 10:44 pm)AdamY wrote Before that, WWE's version of Kaientai were probably most noted for trying to severe the penis of Val Venis with Wally Yamaguchi uttering the memorable line "Choppy Choppy your pee pee"



I love Kaientai by the way - one of my favourite stables in professional wrestling along with the nWo, Crazy MAX and The Shield. Their stuff from Michinoku Pro Wrestling (1995-97) is quality.

I vaguely remember Mr Yamaguchi wanting to chop Vals pee pee off...Oh, I miss the good old days of the Attitude Era Big Grin
MurdnunoC   12 Jun 2014, 11:01 pm
(12 Jun 2014, 10:52 pm)marxistafozzski wrote I vaguely remember Mr Yamaguchi wanting to chop Vals pee pee off...Oh, I miss the good old days of the Attitude Era Big Grin

Well, Val deserved all that was coming to him as far as I'm concerned. I mean, he shags Yamaguchi's wife and brags about it on a nationally syndicated television show. I really don't understand why he's portrayed as the heel in this situation. At least TAKA saw sense and DDT'd his partner - now there's a man with a strong sense of morality Big Grin
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MrFozz   12 Jun 2014, 11:07 pm
(12 Jun 2014, 11:01 pm)AdamY wrote Well, Val deserved all that was coming to him as far as I'm concerned. I mean, he shags Yamaguchi's wife and brags about it on a nationally syndicated television show. I really don't understand why he's portrayed as the heel in this situation. At least TAKA saw sense and DDT'd his partner - now there's a man with a strong sense of morality Big Grin

Was Vals gimmick at the time a Porn Star wannabe or was he just a cheap male slut, it was a time I was 3 steps from full blown alcoholism, so a lot of that period(97-2000) is a blur
MurdnunoC   12 Jun 2014, 11:11 pm
(12 Jun 2014, 11:07 pm)marxistafozzski wrote Was Vals gimmick at the time a Porn Star wannabe or was he just a cheap male slut, it was a time I was 3 steps from full blown alcoholism, so a lot of that period(97-2000) is a blur

Porn star wannabe; his finisher was a top-rope splash named 'The Money Shot'.

Although I liked Val Venis as a wrestler, I always saw his gimmick as a third-rate knock-off of 'Ravishing' Rick Rude.
MrFozz   13 Jun 2014, 7:05 am
(12 Jun 2014, 11:11 pm)AdamY wrote Porn star wannabe; his finisher was a top-rope splash named 'The Money Shot'.

Although I liked Val Venis as a wrestler, I always saw his gimmick as a third-rate knock-off of 'Ravishing' Rick Rude.

Very appropriate name for a Splash [SMILING FACE WITH OPEN MOUTH AND TIGHTLY-CLOSED EYES]
MurdnunoC   13 Jun 2014, 7:26 am
(13 Jun 2014, 7:05 am)marxistafozzski wrote Very appropriate name for a Splash [SMILING FACE WITH OPEN MOUTH AND TIGHTLY-CLOSED EYES]


Indeed.

There was also another wrestler, based in Toryumon Japan (later renamed Dragon Gate), called Magnum TOKYO who had a similar porn-star gimmick. His main finishers were the AV-Star Press and the Viagra Driver but he had other creatively-named moves like the Erect Smash and the STPheromone.

He also had one of the best entrances in wrestling which consisted of women shoving money into his tights while dancing his way to the ring.
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MrFozz   13 Jun 2014, 7:27 am
(13 Jun 2014, 7:26 am)AdamY wrote Indeed.

There was also another wrestler, based in Toryumon Japan (later renamed Dragon Gate), called Magnum TOKYO who had a similar porn-star gimmick. His main finishers were the AV-Star Press and the Viagra Driver but he had other creatively-named moves like the Erect Smash and the STPheromone.

He also had one of the best entrances in wrestling which consisted of women shoving money into his tights while dancing his way to the ring.

Will have to have a look on Youtube
MurdnunoC   13 Jun 2014, 7:38 am
(13 Jun 2014, 7:27 am)marxistafozzski wrote Will have to have a look on Youtube

This is what his entrance eventually evolved into. By 2003, he'd turned heel, gained a stable by the name of Do Fixer and subtly shifted his character from being Mr Viagra to Mr Egotist.

It's still one hell of an entrance though - easily the best in pro wrestling at that time.

MrFozz   13 Jun 2014, 7:54 am
(13 Jun 2014, 7:38 am)AdamY wrote This is what his entrance eventually evolved into. By 2003, he'd turned heel, gained a stable by the name of Do Fixer and subtly shifted his character from being Mr Viagra to Mr Egotist.

It's still one hell of an entrance though - easily the best in pro wrestling at that time.


There is something funny about a Japanese man walking an invisible dog in a group that I guess is called The Italian Connection
MurdnunoC   13 Jun 2014, 8:06 am
(13 Jun 2014, 7:54 am)marxistafozzski wrote There is something funny about a Japanese man walking an invisible dog in a group that I guess is called The Italian Connection

Milano Collection A.T. was probably my favourite wrestler from that particular time period. He was the total package: presence, charisma, fun gimmick and he was just so smooth in the ring. WWE were interested in him at one point and there's a good chance he would've ended up there eventually. Unfortunately, he got injured around 2007/8 (I think?) and retired shortly after.

He also had a mini named Milanito Collection a.t.
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MurdnunoC   23 Jun 2014, 7:53 am
I attended the TCW show at the NE6 Suite in downtown Walker last night.

I thought the choice of venue was a little strange but decent enough for a small show. The show itself was OK but nowt special with the exception of one very entertaining comedy-style match between Grado and Noam Dar which involved both wrestlers standing in line for chips and sharing the chips with the audience. The match, was was billed as 'Best Friends, Worse Enemies', ended when Dar and Grado had each other in position for a chokeslam. Instead of one succeeding in their endeavour, both released each other from grips and the referee ended up taking a double-chokeslam. Grado and Dar covered the referee while Grado counted the pin to bring the match to a close.

The rest of the results (as far as I can remember) were:

1) El Ligero def AJ Anderson
2) Liam Lazarus and Mike Purdie def Janius Centurion and Dave Carbon
3) Violet O'Hara def Kay Lee Ray
4) Bobby Jackson def BT Gunn
5) The Bucky Boys def The Proven
6) Grado NC Noam Dar
7) Rampage Brown def Dara Diablo & Jack Jester

TCW return to Newcastle in November (16th I think) for Deep Rising 2014. I'll probably go again.
MrFozz   23 Jun 2014, 8:15 am
(23 Jun 2014, 7:53 am)AdamY wrote I attended the TCW show at the NE6 Suite in downtown Walker last night.

I thought the choice of venue was a little strange but decent enough for a small show. The show itself was OK but nowt special with the exception of one very entertaining comedy-style match between Grado and Noam Dar which involved both wrestlers standing in line for chips and sharing the chips with the audience. The match, was was billed as 'Best Friends, Worse Enemies', ended when Dar and Grado had each other in position for a chokeslam. Instead of one succeeding in their endeavour, both released each other from grips and the referee ended up taking a double-chokeslam. Grado and Dar covered the referee while Grado counted the pin to bring the match to a close.

The rest of the results (as far as I can remember) were:

1) El Ligero def AJ Anderson
2) Liam Lazarus and Mike Purdie def Janius Centurion and Dave Carbon
3) Violet O'Hara def Kay Lee Ray
4) Bobby Jackson def BT Gunn
5) The Bucky Boys def The Proven
6) Grado NC Noam Dar
7) Rampage Brown def Dara Diablo & Jack Jester

TCW return to Newcastle in November (16th I think) for Deep Rising 2014. I'll probably go again.

Remind me closer to the time, if I can I may join you
MurdnunoC   23 Jun 2014, 10:10 am
(23 Jun 2014, 8:15 am)marxistafozzski wrote Remind me closer to the time, if I can I may join you

I will. One match has been announced already - El Ligero vs. BT Gunn. El Ligero ran in for the save at the end of the BT Gunn/Bobby Jackson match when Gunn threatened to use a chair.

In other news...

WWE have debuted a new tag-team on NXT called the 'Vaudevillians'

It's a 1920s style gimmick complete with a 'Black and White' styled entrance. I don't know how well it will get over on the main show, but it looks like loads of fun in NXT.

MrFozz   23 Jun 2014, 10:39 am
(23 Jun 2014, 10:10 am)AdamY wrote I will. One match has been announced already - El Ligero vs. BT Gunn. El Ligero ran in for the save at the end of the BT Gunn/Bobby Jackson match when Gunn threatened to use a chair.

In other news...

WWE have debuted a new tag-team on NXT called the 'Vaudevillians'

It's a 1920s style gimmick complete with a 'Black and White' styled entrance. I don't know how well it will get over on the main show, but it looks like loads of fun in NXT.


I love Regals reaction to them...A Vaudeville New Age Outlaws...looks like it will be a fun kind of gimmick
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MurdnunoC   23 Jun 2014, 11:08 am
(23 Jun 2014, 10:39 am)marxistafozzski wrote I love Regals reaction to them...A Vaudeville New Age Outlaws...looks like it will be a fun kind of gimmick

I love Regal's commentary in general.
MrFozz   23 Jun 2014, 11:33 am
(23 Jun 2014, 11:08 am)AdamY wrote I love Regal's commentary in general.

Kissing Vinces arse apart, I have always liked William Regal...

Saying that I have always liked British wrestlers, I love Bad News and Paige is just well...Paige, words cannot describe her beauty, not a supermodel, more your girl next door Big Grin


And from what I have seen of Adrian Neville would love to see him called up to the Majors sometime soon
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