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Arriva North East: Latest News & Discussion - June 2014

 
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upt50k



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13 Jun 2014, 8:33 am #81
(13 Jun 2014, 7:45 am)forster I travelled on the MAX spec 7611 on the X10 14.50 out of Blyth yesterday. Looks very smart with the new leather? seating. Presumably some exterior branding will be applied when more have been refurbished.
Pictures of Max spec decker show it as looking very smart but I think this is a lot of money spent on a fairly new bus that looked smart in interurban livery anyway.Arriva now have in effect a three tier layer of service giving the impression that some customers are more important to them than others when I think they should have put their resources into preventative work to ensure the buses do not breakdown in between services This is a current project.Would Service 7 have been a success with just new pulsars in standard livery (without Ray Stennings swoops)? Darlington's X1 does well because they try to be reliable which is a key factor in what customers want.They will tolerate it being a bit late as long as it turns up.Again something that the may independants of the past were noted for.

The white shirts and driver blazers were once the arriva norm until blazers were dropped.The buses should be presented to the highest standard with all damage repaired asap and to a good finish(not roughly filled and poorly painted) whether they are new or old.
Arriva have changed Day Tickets to Routesavers something which does not roll off the tongue.Customers still call them Day TIckets or Day riders (inherited from Stagecoach) and seldom refer to them as Savers.Seemed a waste of more money to me. What do others think.
upt50k
13 Jun 2014, 8:33 am #81

(13 Jun 2014, 7:45 am)forster I travelled on the MAX spec 7611 on the X10 14.50 out of Blyth yesterday. Looks very smart with the new leather? seating. Presumably some exterior branding will be applied when more have been refurbished.
Pictures of Max spec decker show it as looking very smart but I think this is a lot of money spent on a fairly new bus that looked smart in interurban livery anyway.Arriva now have in effect a three tier layer of service giving the impression that some customers are more important to them than others when I think they should have put their resources into preventative work to ensure the buses do not breakdown in between services This is a current project.Would Service 7 have been a success with just new pulsars in standard livery (without Ray Stennings swoops)? Darlington's X1 does well because they try to be reliable which is a key factor in what customers want.They will tolerate it being a bit late as long as it turns up.Again something that the may independants of the past were noted for.

The white shirts and driver blazers were once the arriva norm until blazers were dropped.The buses should be presented to the highest standard with all damage repaired asap and to a good finish(not roughly filled and poorly painted) whether they are new or old.
Arriva have changed Day Tickets to Routesavers something which does not roll off the tongue.Customers still call them Day TIckets or Day riders (inherited from Stagecoach) and seldom refer to them as Savers.Seemed a waste of more money to me. What do others think.

Kuyoyo



6,856
13 Jun 2014, 9:34 am #82
(10 Jun 2014, 5:38 pm)DaveyBowyer Hahaha, It's on it heading uptowards Newcastle from Chilli Road @18:37!

Well, got some news for you thanks to confirmation posted on a group on Facebook - at present, the 1738 308 from Blyth and the 1848 return from Newcastle run off the X10/X11 so for now until any related changes when the 'MAX' branding is launched, that working may throw up a 'MAX' livered vehicle.
Kuyoyo
13 Jun 2014, 9:34 am #82

(10 Jun 2014, 5:38 pm)DaveyBowyer Hahaha, It's on it heading uptowards Newcastle from Chilli Road @18:37!

Well, got some news for you thanks to confirmation posted on a group on Facebook - at present, the 1738 308 from Blyth and the 1848 return from Newcastle run off the X10/X11 so for now until any related changes when the 'MAX' branding is launched, that working may throw up a 'MAX' livered vehicle.

Kuyoyo



6,856
13 Jun 2014, 2:21 pm #83
A photo on Facebook has confirmed the return of 7608 (NK59 DMF).
Kuyoyo
13 Jun 2014, 2:21 pm #83

A photo on Facebook has confirmed the return of 7608 (NK59 DMF).

Dan

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18,128
13 Jun 2014, 2:43 pm #84
(13 Jun 2014, 2:21 pm)Kuyoyo A photo on Facebook has confirmed the return of 7608 (NK59 DMF).

Photo of it when freshly repainted:
https://flic.kr/p/nXvCL4
Dan
13 Jun 2014, 2:43 pm #84

(13 Jun 2014, 2:21 pm)Kuyoyo A photo on Facebook has confirmed the return of 7608 (NK59 DMF).

Photo of it when freshly repainted:
https://flic.kr/p/nXvCL4

13 Jun 2014, 5:37 pm #85
(10 Jun 2014, 6:23 pm)Tom The B5LH's were supposed to only be allocated to the 308 - did that happen?


Well said Tom. Some people live in cloud cuckoo land!
Roland Pratt
13 Jun 2014, 5:37 pm #85

(10 Jun 2014, 6:23 pm)Tom The B5LH's were supposed to only be allocated to the 308 - did that happen?


Well said Tom. Some people live in cloud cuckoo land!

13 Jun 2014, 5:45 pm #86
(13 Jun 2014, 8:33 am)upt50k Pictures of Max spec decker show it as looking very smart but I think this is a lot of money spent on a fairly new bus that looked smart in interurban livery anyway.Arriva now have in effect a three tier layer of service giving the impression that some customers are more important to them than others when I think they should have put their resources into preventative work to ensure the buses do not breakdown in between services This is a current project.Would Service 7 have been a success with just new pulsars in standard livery (without Ray Stennings swoops)? Darlington's X1 does well because they try to be reliable which is a key factor in what customers want.They will tolerate it being a bit late as long as it turns up.Again something that the may independants of the past were noted for.

The white shirts and driver blazers were once the arriva norm until blazers were dropped.The buses should be presented to the highest standard with all damage repaired asap and to a good finish(not roughly filled and poorly painted) whether they are new or old.
Arriva have changed Day Tickets to Routesavers something which does not roll off the tongue.Customers still call them Day TIckets or Day riders (inherited from Stagecoach) and seldom refer to them as Savers.Seemed a waste of more money to me. What do others think.

Totally agree UPT!
Roland Pratt
13 Jun 2014, 5:45 pm #86

(13 Jun 2014, 8:33 am)upt50k Pictures of Max spec decker show it as looking very smart but I think this is a lot of money spent on a fairly new bus that looked smart in interurban livery anyway.Arriva now have in effect a three tier layer of service giving the impression that some customers are more important to them than others when I think they should have put their resources into preventative work to ensure the buses do not breakdown in between services This is a current project.Would Service 7 have been a success with just new pulsars in standard livery (without Ray Stennings swoops)? Darlington's X1 does well because they try to be reliable which is a key factor in what customers want.They will tolerate it being a bit late as long as it turns up.Again something that the may independants of the past were noted for.

The white shirts and driver blazers were once the arriva norm until blazers were dropped.The buses should be presented to the highest standard with all damage repaired asap and to a good finish(not roughly filled and poorly painted) whether they are new or old.
Arriva have changed Day Tickets to Routesavers something which does not roll off the tongue.Customers still call them Day TIckets or Day riders (inherited from Stagecoach) and seldom refer to them as Savers.Seemed a waste of more money to me. What do others think.

Totally agree UPT!

13 Jun 2014, 7:21 pm #87
Just seen a pop-up add for the Sapphire Deckers while browsing Wikipedia!
R852 PRG
13 Jun 2014, 7:21 pm #87

Just seen a pop-up add for the Sapphire Deckers while browsing Wikipedia!

S813 FVK



6,030
13 Jun 2014, 7:50 pm #88
(10 Jun 2014, 6:21 pm)Kuyoyo Yawn!

I think you'll find 'MAX' will be the same as 'Sapphire' - the vehicles will only be allocated to the X10/X11 and that's it.

So why the hell dont they just brand them as 'Sapphire'. Surely something must be different.
Edited 13 Jun 2014, 7:51 pm by S813 FVK.
S813 FVK
13 Jun 2014, 7:50 pm #88

(10 Jun 2014, 6:21 pm)Kuyoyo Yawn!

I think you'll find 'MAX' will be the same as 'Sapphire' - the vehicles will only be allocated to the X10/X11 and that's it.

So why the hell dont they just brand them as 'Sapphire'. Surely something must be different.

Dan

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18,128
13 Jun 2014, 7:55 pm #89
(13 Jun 2014, 7:50 pm)Robert So why the hell dont they just brand them as 'Sapphire'. Surely something must be different.

Arriva has less money to pay out with "MAX", as they don't have to retro fit power sockets - a fairly difficult (and expensive) job, as I understand it? That's the main difference between "MAX" and "Sapphire" anyway.
Dan
13 Jun 2014, 7:55 pm #89

(13 Jun 2014, 7:50 pm)Robert So why the hell dont they just brand them as 'Sapphire'. Surely something must be different.

Arriva has less money to pay out with "MAX", as they don't have to retro fit power sockets - a fairly difficult (and expensive) job, as I understand it? That's the main difference between "MAX" and "Sapphire" anyway.

peter



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13 Jun 2014, 7:56 pm #90
(13 Jun 2014, 7:50 pm)Robert So why the hell dont they just brand them as 'Sapphire'. Surely something must be different.

The only notable difference (beside the branding of course) is that MAX branded buses do not have plug sockets while Sapphire does, but both have leather seats and free-wifi. Addtionally only Express Services will be upgraded to MAX specification (i.e any which have a route number beginning with X) while any type of service can be upgraded to Sapphire specification.
Edited 13 Jun 2014, 7:57 pm by peter.
peter
13 Jun 2014, 7:56 pm #90

(13 Jun 2014, 7:50 pm)Robert So why the hell dont they just brand them as 'Sapphire'. Surely something must be different.

The only notable difference (beside the branding of course) is that MAX branded buses do not have plug sockets while Sapphire does, but both have leather seats and free-wifi. Addtionally only Express Services will be upgraded to MAX specification (i.e any which have a route number beginning with X) while any type of service can be upgraded to Sapphire specification.

Tom



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13 Jun 2014, 7:57 pm #91
(13 Jun 2014, 7:50 pm)Robert So why the hell dont they just brand them as 'Sapphire'. Surely something must be different.

I think your missing the point - he means it will be the same idea as Sapphire that the vehicles will ONLY be allocated to the X10/X11.
Tom
13 Jun 2014, 7:57 pm #91

(13 Jun 2014, 7:50 pm)Robert So why the hell dont they just brand them as 'Sapphire'. Surely something must be different.

I think your missing the point - he means it will be the same idea as Sapphire that the vehicles will ONLY be allocated to the X10/X11.

Dan

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18,128
13 Jun 2014, 8:00 pm #92
(13 Jun 2014, 7:57 pm)Tom I think your missing the point - he means it will be the same idea as Sapphire that the vehicles will ONLY be allocated to the X10/X11.

But as we all know, fat chance of that happening (unless Blyth decide to change their ways - and if they manage to do that now, it begs the question why it couldn't have been done sooner!)
Dan
13 Jun 2014, 8:00 pm #92

(13 Jun 2014, 7:57 pm)Tom I think your missing the point - he means it will be the same idea as Sapphire that the vehicles will ONLY be allocated to the X10/X11.

But as we all know, fat chance of that happening (unless Blyth decide to change their ways - and if they manage to do that now, it begs the question why it couldn't have been done sooner!)

Adrian



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13 Jun 2014, 9:23 pm #93
(13 Jun 2014, 7:55 pm)Dan Arriva has less money to pay out with "MAX", as they don't have to retro fit power sockets - a fairly difficult (and expensive) job, as I understand it? That's the main difference between "MAX" and "Sapphire" anyway.

Must be the way the power is actually generated, stored or distributed I guess. I don't know a lot about it, but would be quite interested if anyone has info to share. I'd guess the fitting of the actual sockets is the easiest part of it.

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13 Jun 2014, 9:23 pm #93

(13 Jun 2014, 7:55 pm)Dan Arriva has less money to pay out with "MAX", as they don't have to retro fit power sockets - a fairly difficult (and expensive) job, as I understand it? That's the main difference between "MAX" and "Sapphire" anyway.

Must be the way the power is actually generated, stored or distributed I guess. I don't know a lot about it, but would be quite interested if anyone has info to share. I'd guess the fitting of the actual sockets is the easiest part of it.


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13 Jun 2014, 9:26 pm #94
(13 Jun 2014, 7:57 pm)Tom I think your missing the point - he means it will be the same idea as Sapphire that the vehicles will ONLY be allocated to the X10/X11.

Aye, it's never going to happen though. If they can't manage it with the Hybrids (that they have to report back on when they're not allocated right!), they're never going to manage when it's entirely optional. It's a complete free for all.

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Adrian
13 Jun 2014, 9:26 pm #94

(13 Jun 2014, 7:57 pm)Tom I think your missing the point - he means it will be the same idea as Sapphire that the vehicles will ONLY be allocated to the X10/X11.

Aye, it's never going to happen though. If they can't manage it with the Hybrids (that they have to report back on when they're not allocated right!), they're never going to manage when it's entirely optional. It's a complete free for all.


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13 Jun 2014, 10:02 pm #95
(13 Jun 2014, 7:55 pm)Dan Arriva has less money to pay out with "MAX", as they don't have to retro fit power sockets - a fairly difficult (and expensive) job, as I understand it? That's the main difference between "MAX" and "Sapphire" anyway.

Also, with MAX the floors are not replaced like there are on Sapphire refurbishments. MAX is a local management initiative (NE & Yorks) and is a lot cheaper than Sapphire, whereas Sapphire is a UK wide initiative, which as has previously been said on here, with one team doing all the Sapphire launches.
Edited 13 Jun 2014, 10:03 pm by John_R.
John_R
13 Jun 2014, 10:02 pm #95

(13 Jun 2014, 7:55 pm)Dan Arriva has less money to pay out with "MAX", as they don't have to retro fit power sockets - a fairly difficult (and expensive) job, as I understand it? That's the main difference between "MAX" and "Sapphire" anyway.

Also, with MAX the floors are not replaced like there are on Sapphire refurbishments. MAX is a local management initiative (NE & Yorks) and is a lot cheaper than Sapphire, whereas Sapphire is a UK wide initiative, which as has previously been said on here, with one team doing all the Sapphire launches.

14 Jun 2014, 9:26 am #96
Bit off topic, but how is this OK?

For Arriva, an Adult single from Greenhead to Carlisle is £5.40.
For Stagecoach in Cumbria, the very same ticket costs just £4.25. Bearing in mind that is a jointly operated service. Ugh.

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14 Jun 2014, 9:26 am #96

Bit off topic, but how is this OK?

For Arriva, an Adult single from Greenhead to Carlisle is £5.40.
For Stagecoach in Cumbria, the very same ticket costs just £4.25. Bearing in mind that is a jointly operated service. Ugh.


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14 Jun 2014, 9:49 am #97
(14 Jun 2014, 9:26 am)northern156 Bit off topic, but how is this OK?

For Arriva, an Adult single from Greenhead to Carlisle is £5.40.
For Stagecoach in Cumbria, the very same ticket costs just £4.25. Bearing in mind that is a jointly operated service. Ugh.
I believe that there are discrepancies between the fares from Hexham to Corbridge.
G-CPTN
14 Jun 2014, 9:49 am #97

(14 Jun 2014, 9:26 am)northern156 Bit off topic, but how is this OK?

For Arriva, an Adult single from Greenhead to Carlisle is £5.40.
For Stagecoach in Cumbria, the very same ticket costs just £4.25. Bearing in mind that is a jointly operated service. Ugh.
I believe that there are discrepancies between the fares from Hexham to Corbridge.

buznut



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14 Jun 2014, 1:05 pm #98
Alx 400 decker caught my eye yesterday in orginal livery with what looks like an interurban dark blue colour front bumper.
I missed the fleet no but was on the 56s leaving Ferryhill.Must be one of Belmonts the older trident 2s i guess!
Anyone else spotted that one....
buznut
14 Jun 2014, 1:05 pm #98

Alx 400 decker caught my eye yesterday in orginal livery with what looks like an interurban dark blue colour front bumper.
I missed the fleet no but was on the 56s leaving Ferryhill.Must be one of Belmonts the older trident 2s i guess!
Anyone else spotted that one....

Jimmi



10,977
14 Jun 2014, 1:54 pm #99
(14 Jun 2014, 1:05 pm)buznut Alx 400 decker caught my eye yesterday in orginal livery with what looks like an interurban dark blue colour front bumper.
I missed the fleet no but was on the 56s leaving Ferryhill.Must be one of Belmonts the older trident 2s i guess!
Anyone else spotted that one....

It is 7433.
Jimmi
14 Jun 2014, 1:54 pm #99

(14 Jun 2014, 1:05 pm)buznut Alx 400 decker caught my eye yesterday in orginal livery with what looks like an interurban dark blue colour front bumper.
I missed the fleet no but was on the 56s leaving Ferryhill.Must be one of Belmonts the older trident 2s i guess!
Anyone else spotted that one....

It is 7433.

Jimmi



10,977
14 Jun 2014, 4:37 pm #100
From Sunday 29th June, Service X1 will run hourly on Sundays all year round.
Jimmi
14 Jun 2014, 4:37 pm #100

From Sunday 29th June, Service X1 will run hourly on Sundays all year round.

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