Pricing
Pricing
(03 Nov 2014, 2:49 pm)tyresmoke While it doesn't make it right, I would be willing to bet there are anomalies like this all over the place.
(03 Nov 2014, 2:49 pm)tyresmoke While it doesn't make it right, I would be willing to bet there are anomalies like this all over the place.
So once word gets about that one service is cheaper than the other, what's the betting loads decrease on the more expensive service?
I would love to see loads between Wrekenton and Gateshead on the 51/52 56 and x1 (particularly the latter two) - bearing in mind the different prices that exist.
With reference to the different fares on the 10A/10B and the impact it may have on one particular service, I'd imagine that the fare will be changed promptly (hopefully both to the cheaper fare rather than both to the more expensive fare)... This anomaly is unique to what we have discussed in the past, so I can't imagine it was actually intended...
With reference to the Wrekenton - Newcastle services, whether it's linked to the slightly faster journey, or the fact that service X1 runs to Eldon Square rather than New Bridge Street, it does seem more common (at least in my experience) for service X1 to receive more passengers at Wrekenton.
Would possibly be better to compare the 56 and X1 with the 28 and X25 rather than 51/52; in which case, on the Sunday just gone, I was the only passenger (out of approximately 15 waiting) who chose to use the 28 over the X1, when travelling to Newcastle from Wrekenton. Both arrived into Eldon Square at the same time.
(03 Nov 2014, 5:30 pm)Dan With reference to the different fares on the 10A/10B and the impact it may have on one particular service, I'd imagine that the fare will be changed promptly (hopefully both to the cheaper fare rather than both to the more expensive fare)... This anomaly is unique to what we have discussed in the past, so I can't imagine it was actually intended...
With reference to the Wrekenton - Newcastle services, whether it's linked to the slightly faster journey, or the fact that service X1 runs to Eldon Square rather than New Bridge Street, it does seem more common (at least in my experience) for service X1 to receive more passengers at Wrekenton.
Would possibly be better to compare the 56 and X1 with the 28 and X25 rather than 51/52; in which case, on the Sunday just gone, I was the only passenger (out of approximately 15 waiting) who chose to use the 28 over the X1, when travelling to Newcastle from Wrekenton. Both arrived into Eldon Square at the same time.
(03 Nov 2014, 5:30 pm)Dan With reference to the different fares on the 10A/10B and the impact it may have on one particular service, I'd imagine that the fare will be changed promptly (hopefully both to the cheaper fare rather than both to the more expensive fare)... This anomaly is unique to what we have discussed in the past, so I can't imagine it was actually intended...
With reference to the Wrekenton - Newcastle services, whether it's linked to the slightly faster journey, or the fact that service X1 runs to Eldon Square rather than New Bridge Street, it does seem more common (at least in my experience) for service X1 to receive more passengers at Wrekenton.
Would possibly be better to compare the 56 and X1 with the 28 and X25 rather than 51/52; in which case, on the Sunday just gone, I was the only passenger (out of approximately 15 waiting) who chose to use the 28 over the X1, when travelling to Newcastle from Wrekenton. Both arrived into Eldon Square at the same time.
(03 Nov 2014, 6:13 pm)NEBCD Malarkey I've this issue recently with Fares being more Expensive on one than it is on the other, in my case it's the 2A/2C and 8.
If I get the 8 at Washington Galleries due having to go the Bank for Money, it'll cost me £4.50 for a Day Return, but I decide to get on the 2A/2C then it'll cost me £4.70 for the same ticket, But if I do have Money on me to pay the fare and I get on the 2C at Lambton then again it only cost me £4.50, So I therefore question what the 20p Extra is for.
(03 Nov 2014, 6:13 pm)NEBCD Malarkey I've this issue recently with Fares being more Expensive on one than it is on the other, in my case it's the 2A/2C and 8.
If I get the 8 at Washington Galleries due having to go the Bank for Money, it'll cost me £4.50 for a Day Return, but I decide to get on the 2A/2C then it'll cost me £4.70 for the same ticket, But if I do have Money on me to pay the fare and I get on the 2C at Lambton then again it only cost me £4.50, So I therefore question what the 20p Extra is for.
I've got the fare table here for the 2A/2C and the 8. Both are £4.50 return between the Galleries and Sunderland. Lambton to Sunderland return is also £4.50 on the 2C. Not sure where the £4.70 fare is coming from, as neither fare tables have any £4.70 return fares?
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The different routings between services shouldn't have any bearing on the fares between two set points though? A good example is Stockton-Middlesbrough, on the X1/X66/etc direct services it costs £2.40. Our 17A, which goes via Thornaby and Acklam, is also £2.40 despite taking 3x as long
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(03 Nov 2014, 8:10 pm)tyresmoke The different routings between services shouldn't have any bearing on the fares between two set points though? A good example is Stockton-Middlesbrough, on the X1/X66/etc direct services it costs £2.40. Our 17A, which goes via Thornaby and Acklam, is also £2.40 despite taking 3x as long
(03 Nov 2014, 8:10 pm)tyresmoke The different routings between services shouldn't have any bearing on the fares between two set points though? A good example is Stockton-Middlesbrough, on the X1/X66/etc direct services it costs £2.40. Our 17A, which goes via Thornaby and Acklam, is also £2.40 despite taking 3x as long
The FPF were surprised to see the difference in the fare between Houghton and Shiney Row on the 4, compared to the X1.
Different route, similar duration and the 4 crossing a boundary/fare zone into Co Durham - yet cheaper than the x1.
(03 Nov 2014, 9:23 pm)Andreos1 The FPF were surprised to see the difference in the fare between Houghton and Shiney Row on the 4, compared to the X1.
Different route, similar duration and the 4 crossing a boundary/fare zone into Co Durham - yet cheaper than the x1.
(03 Nov 2014, 9:23 pm)Andreos1 The FPF were surprised to see the difference in the fare between Houghton and Shiney Row on the 4, compared to the X1.
Different route, similar duration and the 4 crossing a boundary/fare zone into Co Durham - yet cheaper than the x1.
Canny one today on the GNE fb page.
Someone queried a single to Stanley from Park Lane.
A single on the 8 or 78 is £4.70.
A return on the 8 is £6.80.
On the 78, a return is £5.70.
Any ideas why the two singles are the same, yet returns are different?
Blows the boundaries, zones and whatever other theories mentioned previously out of the water!
(04 Nov 2014, 5:32 pm)Andreos1 Any ideas why the two singles are the same, yet returns are different?
Blows the boundaries, zones and whatever other theories mentioned previously out of the water!
(04 Nov 2014, 5:32 pm)Andreos1 Any ideas why the two singles are the same, yet returns are different?
Blows the boundaries, zones and whatever other theories mentioned previously out of the water!
But we can guess, surmise and speculate - until we find out the reason behind the anomalies.
Just like we have all done at times, throughout the forum.
We might get an 'insider' trying to justify the differences or we may get a formal response from GNE, which could be put into this forum.
The social media pages provide more than enough anomalies as it is - without any online fare checking facility.
(04 Nov 2014, 6:36 pm)Andreos1 But we can guess, surmise and speculate - until we find out the reason behind the anomalies.
Just like we have all done at times, throughout the forum.
We might get an 'insider' trying to justify the differences or we may get a formal response from GNE, which could be put into this forum.
The social media pages provide more than enough anomalies as it is - without any online fare checking facility.
(04 Nov 2014, 6:36 pm)Andreos1 But we can guess, surmise and speculate - until we find out the reason behind the anomalies.
Just like we have all done at times, throughout the forum.
We might get an 'insider' trying to justify the differences or we may get a formal response from GNE, which could be put into this forum.
The social media pages provide more than enough anomalies as it is - without any online fare checking facility.
Quote:Just thought I would start a thread to see what peoples thoughts are about pricing across the region.
With the wide range of tickets, discounts and passes, are they structured fairly? Are they expensive or are they value for money?
Quote:Just thought I would start a thread to see what peoples thoughts are about pricing across the region.
With the wide range of tickets, discounts and passes, are they structured fairly? Are they expensive or are they value for money?
(04 Nov 2014, 7:00 pm)Andreos1 That was the reason for starting the thread.
Not sure any of the questions have ever been answered, but many examples of the fares have been given.
(04 Nov 2014, 7:00 pm)Andreos1 That was the reason for starting the thread.
Not sure any of the questions have ever been answered, but many examples of the fares have been given.
See, I think GNE's weekly/monthly tickets are better structured than other operators, but I think all operators have increased too far too fast.
You're right about value Dan, but when fares are rising almost double inflation, the average cost of a weekly shop is rising, fuel bills rising, the value soon becomes lost, as the said person's financial status changes. The only thing that is going down, in real terms, is take home pay. If we look at the Measuring Worth website, between 2003-2013, for example. RPI has increased over the period by 37.94%, and real wages have dropped 3.21%. That's a huge gap, and unless something gives, we're going to have a huge problem on our hands.
Unfortunately Government policy has gone from supporting people back to work, to persecuting people until they're forced to work for no pay. In Tyne and Wear, you could previously get a Network TravelTicket if in receipt of JSA. A lifeline to job seekers you'd argue.