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Andreos1



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11 Oct 2014, 12:47 pm #141
Not sure if many are aware or have seen it, but the new train, training facility alongside the Felling Bypass on the old Van Hee site, is coming along.
Passed it the other night, to see they have a small track which runs alongside the building.

Quite impressive and quite a change from its previous life as a warehouse and then storage facility.
Just to keep the 'bus theme', there were several preserved buses stored there for a short while, a few years back. 

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Andreos1
11 Oct 2014, 12:47 pm #141

Not sure if many are aware or have seen it, but the new train, training facility alongside the Felling Bypass on the old Van Hee site, is coming along.
Passed it the other night, to see they have a small track which runs alongside the building.

Quite impressive and quite a change from its previous life as a warehouse and then storage facility.
Just to keep the 'bus theme', there were several preserved buses stored there for a short while, a few years back. 


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MrFozz

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11 Oct 2014, 2:35 pm #142
(25 Aug 2014, 4:13 pm)Marcus Yeah, I'm just a much a railway enthusiast as I am a bus enthusiast, although I don't use forums and stuff for trains like I do with buses. It would be best to ask a die hard train guy on this one, but I was standing train-spotting at Chester one Saturday afternoon and two old guys with cameras when an East Coast Class 43 came into view and raced past, the two men didn't get their cameras out and stood back. Once they could hear each other again, they said they hated Class 43s because of Jimmy Savile and the 'this is the age of the train' ads back in the late 20th century. That put a smile on my face. Tongue

If in doubt, blame J-Sav, like Margaret Thatcher, that gets blamed for everything
MrFozz
11 Oct 2014, 2:35 pm #142

(25 Aug 2014, 4:13 pm)Marcus Yeah, I'm just a much a railway enthusiast as I am a bus enthusiast, although I don't use forums and stuff for trains like I do with buses. It would be best to ask a die hard train guy on this one, but I was standing train-spotting at Chester one Saturday afternoon and two old guys with cameras when an East Coast Class 43 came into view and raced past, the two men didn't get their cameras out and stood back. Once they could hear each other again, they said they hated Class 43s because of Jimmy Savile and the 'this is the age of the train' ads back in the late 20th century. That put a smile on my face. Tongue

If in doubt, blame J-Sav, like Margaret Thatcher, that gets blamed for everything

Dan

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11 Oct 2014, 7:18 pm #143
Structural damage 'worse than expected' at Middlesbrough Railway Station
http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teessi...gh-7918705
Dan
11 Oct 2014, 7:18 pm #143

Structural damage 'worse than expected' at Middlesbrough Railway Station
http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teessi...gh-7918705

Andreos1



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27 Oct 2014, 10:28 am #144
http://metro.co.uk/2014/10/27/the-14-tho...n-4919599/

How many of you have these thoughts?
Quiet coach/rear carriage everytime (unless 1st class is cheap!).
Edited 27 Oct 2014, 10:29 am by Andreos1.

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Andreos1
27 Oct 2014, 10:28 am #144

http://metro.co.uk/2014/10/27/the-14-tho...n-4919599/

How many of you have these thoughts?
Quiet coach/rear carriage everytime (unless 1st class is cheap!).


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Andreos1



14,242
30 Oct 2014, 5:46 am #145
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-29821695

Train overcrowding brought up in debate.

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Andreos1
30 Oct 2014, 5:46 am #145

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-29821695

Train overcrowding brought up in debate.


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Adrian



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11 Nov 2014, 7:57 pm #146
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/11/10/...rain_ride/

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11 Nov 2014, 7:57 pm #146

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/11/10/...rain_ride/


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11 Nov 2014, 8:10 pm #147
(27 Oct 2014, 10:28 am)Andreos1 http://metro.co.uk/2014/10/27/the-14-tho...n-4919599/

How many of you have these thoughts?
Quiet coach/rear carriage everytime (unless 1st class is cheap!).

My typical thoughts when boarding a train are.....

1) I hope the train doesn't fail in any way
2) I hope there are no terrorists get on (I'm deadly serious, don't you worry about it when you get on a plane?)
3) I hope there are some free seats in the quiet coach
4) I hope there are no O-APs to discriminate me, a child, travelling alone on a train!
5) I hope it's East Coast! Tongue
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11 Nov 2014, 8:10 pm #147

(27 Oct 2014, 10:28 am)Andreos1 http://metro.co.uk/2014/10/27/the-14-tho...n-4919599/

How many of you have these thoughts?
Quiet coach/rear carriage everytime (unless 1st class is cheap!).

My typical thoughts when boarding a train are.....

1) I hope the train doesn't fail in any way
2) I hope there are no terrorists get on (I'm deadly serious, don't you worry about it when you get on a plane?)
3) I hope there are some free seats in the quiet coach
4) I hope there are no O-APs to discriminate me, a child, travelling alone on a train!
5) I hope it's East Coast! Tongue

Andreos1



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11 Nov 2014, 8:52 pm #148
Although not worried about terrorists, I have wondered why trains (and ferries) have never been targeted.

Can't begin to imagine the sort of security measures that would need to be put into place (like airports) at a railway station.

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Andreos1
11 Nov 2014, 8:52 pm #148

Although not worried about terrorists, I have wondered why trains (and ferries) have never been targeted.

Can't begin to imagine the sort of security measures that would need to be put into place (like airports) at a railway station.


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11 Nov 2014, 8:53 pm #149
(11 Nov 2014, 8:52 pm)Andreos1 Although not worried about terrorists, I have wondered why trains (and ferries) have never been targeted.

Can't begin to imagine the sort of security measures that would need to be put into place (like airports) at a railway station.

Maybe start with bag checks?
R852 PRG
11 Nov 2014, 8:53 pm #149

(11 Nov 2014, 8:52 pm)Andreos1 Although not worried about terrorists, I have wondered why trains (and ferries) have never been targeted.

Can't begin to imagine the sort of security measures that would need to be put into place (like airports) at a railway station.

Maybe start with bag checks?

Adrian



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11 Nov 2014, 8:53 pm #150
(11 Nov 2014, 8:52 pm)Andreos1 Although not worried about terrorists, I have wondered why trains (and ferries) have never been targeted.

Can't begin to imagine the sort of security measures that would need to be put into place (like airports) at a railway station.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Madrid_train_bombings

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11 Nov 2014, 8:53 pm #150

(11 Nov 2014, 8:52 pm)Andreos1 Although not worried about terrorists, I have wondered why trains (and ferries) have never been targeted.

Can't begin to imagine the sort of security measures that would need to be put into place (like airports) at a railway station.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Madrid_train_bombings


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Andreos1



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11 Nov 2014, 8:58 pm #151
@marcus
Aye, but how long would you need to 'check in'?

@aureolin
Sorry, should have clarified I meant the intercity stuff. Obviously there was Madrid, there has been the tube etc.

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Andreos1
11 Nov 2014, 8:58 pm #151

@marcus
Aye, but how long would you need to 'check in'?

@aureolin
Sorry, should have clarified I meant the intercity stuff. Obviously there was Madrid, there has been the tube etc.


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mb134



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18 Nov 2014, 8:12 pm #152
http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/nort...in-8131791
Any idea what could have caused it, could it have been speed?
mb134
18 Nov 2014, 8:12 pm #152

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/nort...in-8131791
Any idea what could have caused it, could it have been speed?

Andreos1



14,242
20 Nov 2014, 10:59 am #153
(18 Nov 2014, 8:12 pm)mb134 http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/nort...in-8131791
Any idea what could have caused it, could it have been speed?

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/nort...in-8139119

Line closed for a week

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Andreos1
20 Nov 2014, 10:59 am #153

(18 Nov 2014, 8:12 pm)mb134 http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/nort...in-8131791
Any idea what could have caused it, could it have been speed?

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/nort...in-8139119

Line closed for a week


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22 Nov 2014, 1:24 am #154
Been reported as a broken rail.
alibill_36
22 Nov 2014, 1:24 am #154

Been reported as a broken rail.

Adam



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24 Nov 2014, 11:17 pm #155
Found this. Rumours are circulating that Eurostar have won the East Coast franchise, leading to a fall in shares in First Group.

Does anyone know when an official announcement is to be made about who's gained the franchise?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsb...ostar.html
Adam
24 Nov 2014, 11:17 pm #155

Found this. Rumours are circulating that Eurostar have won the East Coast franchise, leading to a fall in shares in First Group.

Does anyone know when an official announcement is to be made about who's gained the franchise?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsb...ostar.html

24 Nov 2014, 11:19 pm #156
(24 Nov 2014, 11:17 pm)Adam Found this. Rumours are circulating that Eurostar have won the East Coast franchise, leading to a fall in shares in First Group.

Does anyone know when an official announcement is to be made about who's gained the franchise?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsb...ostar.html

In all honesty, and because of the speculation, I want (or wanted) to see Virgin get it. Don't really know why. Tongue

Not quite sure what to make of this, but I suppose it's possible that Eurostar have indeed won the bid.
R852 PRG
24 Nov 2014, 11:19 pm #156

(24 Nov 2014, 11:17 pm)Adam Found this. Rumours are circulating that Eurostar have won the East Coast franchise, leading to a fall in shares in First Group.

Does anyone know when an official announcement is to be made about who's gained the franchise?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsb...ostar.html

In all honesty, and because of the speculation, I want (or wanted) to see Virgin get it. Don't really know why. Tongue

Not quite sure what to make of this, but I suppose it's possible that Eurostar have indeed won the bid.

Adam



717
24 Nov 2014, 11:28 pm #157
(24 Nov 2014, 11:19 pm)MarcTheA4 In all honesty, and because of the speculation, I want (or wanted) to see Virgin get it. Don't really know why. Tongue

Not quite sure what to make of this, but I suppose it's possible that Eurostar have indeed won the bid.

Without wanting to spark up another debate about privatisation/nationalisation, I've always been against the idea of reprivatising the line. In my experience, East Coast have been better than National Express, and EC have continuously made a decent profit which of course goes straight to the Government rather than private stakeholders.
Edited 24 Nov 2014, 11:29 pm by Adam.
Adam
24 Nov 2014, 11:28 pm #157

(24 Nov 2014, 11:19 pm)MarcTheA4 In all honesty, and because of the speculation, I want (or wanted) to see Virgin get it. Don't really know why. Tongue

Not quite sure what to make of this, but I suppose it's possible that Eurostar have indeed won the bid.

Without wanting to spark up another debate about privatisation/nationalisation, I've always been against the idea of reprivatising the line. In my experience, East Coast have been better than National Express, and EC have continuously made a decent profit which of course goes straight to the Government rather than private stakeholders.

Andreos1



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25 Nov 2014, 11:58 am #158
(25 Nov 2014, 10:41 am)Scott But the line is starved of investment - you no longer get free wifi, and the trains are knackered. Virgin replaced all the trains on the West Coast mainline when they took on that franchise. Orders have been announced for new Hitachi trains, but that factory isn't finsihed yet and the trains are at least 3-5 years away.

The new fleet of trains are coming whoever the new toc is.
It just means whoever the toc is, will benefit from any knock on effect.

There is talk of the 'spark effect' on the Tyne Valley line. Pretty sure there is similar correlation with new train sets too. 

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Andreos1
25 Nov 2014, 11:58 am #158

(25 Nov 2014, 10:41 am)Scott But the line is starved of investment - you no longer get free wifi, and the trains are knackered. Virgin replaced all the trains on the West Coast mainline when they took on that franchise. Orders have been announced for new Hitachi trains, but that factory isn't finsihed yet and the trains are at least 3-5 years away.

The new fleet of trains are coming whoever the new toc is.
It just means whoever the toc is, will benefit from any knock on effect.

There is talk of the 'spark effect' on the Tyne Valley line. Pretty sure there is similar correlation with new train sets too. 


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Andreos1



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25 Nov 2014, 12:45 pm #159
(25 Nov 2014, 12:30 pm)Scott By spark effect do you mean that new trains on the ECML will encourage more passengers to use the train, and therefore use the Tyne Valley line to get to the ECML?

There may be a connection, but in terms of the 'spark effect' on the Tyne Valley line, it is to do with electrification on that line and numbers increasing as a result.
http://railway-history.walkingclub.org.u...ffect.html
Edited 25 Nov 2014, 12:46 pm by Andreos1.

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Andreos1
25 Nov 2014, 12:45 pm #159

(25 Nov 2014, 12:30 pm)Scott By spark effect do you mean that new trains on the ECML will encourage more passengers to use the train, and therefore use the Tyne Valley line to get to the ECML?

There may be a connection, but in terms of the 'spark effect' on the Tyne Valley line, it is to do with electrification on that line and numbers increasing as a result.
http://railway-history.walkingclub.org.u...ffect.html


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25 Nov 2014, 7:55 pm #160
(24 Nov 2014, 11:28 pm)Adam Without wanting to spark up another debate about privatisation/nationalisation, I've always been against the idea of reprivatising the line. In my experience, East Coast have been better than National Express, and EC have continuously made a decent profit which of course goes straight to the Government rather than private stakeholders.

I agree, in my opinion East Coast are very professional, and as you say, the profit all goes towards the government, rather than stakeholders. Smile

Didn't like National Express, but I did like GNER. However, one thing we can all agree on, all 3 combined have done 10 times better than CrossStinky's pathetic services! Tongue
R852 PRG
25 Nov 2014, 7:55 pm #160

(24 Nov 2014, 11:28 pm)Adam Without wanting to spark up another debate about privatisation/nationalisation, I've always been against the idea of reprivatising the line. In my experience, East Coast have been better than National Express, and EC have continuously made a decent profit which of course goes straight to the Government rather than private stakeholders.

I agree, in my opinion East Coast are very professional, and as you say, the profit all goes towards the government, rather than stakeholders. Smile

Didn't like National Express, but I did like GNER. However, one thing we can all agree on, all 3 combined have done 10 times better than CrossStinky's pathetic services! Tongue

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