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25 Nov 2014, 8:00 pm #161
(25 Nov 2014, 12:51 pm)Scott There may be benifits in electrification on the Carlisle to Hexham section, as electric trains can acclerate quicker, achieve higher speeds, and therefore reduce jouney times.

However, between Newcastle and Hexham there is little point, as the stops are close together, so the train will have to stop as soon as it has started, therefore reducing the benifit of faster trains.

Better diesel trains such as class 170s instead of the 142s and 156s may help, and may be more cost effective. These have they adavantage in that newer diesels can borrowed on a trail basis, and things can revert back after if there is little or no improvement.

While I really don't like Pacers (depends what sort of Sprinter!), I wouldn't like to see a 170 in it's place. Don't get me wrong, Pacers are crap, but I feel like they have become somewhat synonymous with our region. One things for things for sure - they'll certainly leave their mark on the Tyne Valley Line for generations to come! Tongue
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25 Nov 2014, 8:00 pm #161

(25 Nov 2014, 12:51 pm)Scott There may be benifits in electrification on the Carlisle to Hexham section, as electric trains can acclerate quicker, achieve higher speeds, and therefore reduce jouney times.

However, between Newcastle and Hexham there is little point, as the stops are close together, so the train will have to stop as soon as it has started, therefore reducing the benifit of faster trains.

Better diesel trains such as class 170s instead of the 142s and 156s may help, and may be more cost effective. These have they adavantage in that newer diesels can borrowed on a trail basis, and things can revert back after if there is little or no improvement.

While I really don't like Pacers (depends what sort of Sprinter!), I wouldn't like to see a 170 in it's place. Don't get me wrong, Pacers are crap, but I feel like they have become somewhat synonymous with our region. One things for things for sure - they'll certainly leave their mark on the Tyne Valley Line for generations to come! Tongue

27 Nov 2014, 7:27 pm #162
(27 Nov 2014, 9:16 am)Scott I found East Coast rather sloppey with jerky uncomfortable trains, heaters on during the summer, and even a tarin stopping short at Edinburgh, with no info as to replacement bus services. Open ticket did allow the use of a ScotRail service to complete the journey.

Cross Country seemed to provide a better service, but I rarely used them. Northern Rail do very well with the older rolling stock. A return journey on Virgin West Coast wen't very well. Got into Carlilse 5 minutes early, with a very smooth ride. 

First TransPennine are my personal least-favourites, closely followed by CrossCountry! 

Had bad experiences with both operators that has resulted in travelling with each only the once, and likely that shall remain. Wink

I do agree with your point about Northern Rail, considering they do use some ancient rolling stock, they seem to get by rather well. Smile
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27 Nov 2014, 7:27 pm #162

(27 Nov 2014, 9:16 am)Scott I found East Coast rather sloppey with jerky uncomfortable trains, heaters on during the summer, and even a tarin stopping short at Edinburgh, with no info as to replacement bus services. Open ticket did allow the use of a ScotRail service to complete the journey.

Cross Country seemed to provide a better service, but I rarely used them. Northern Rail do very well with the older rolling stock. A return journey on Virgin West Coast wen't very well. Got into Carlilse 5 minutes early, with a very smooth ride. 

First TransPennine are my personal least-favourites, closely followed by CrossCountry! 

Had bad experiences with both operators that has resulted in travelling with each only the once, and likely that shall remain. Wink

I do agree with your point about Northern Rail, considering they do use some ancient rolling stock, they seem to get by rather well. Smile

Adrian



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27 Nov 2014, 7:36 pm #163
(27 Nov 2014, 9:16 am)Scott I found East Coast rather sloppey with jerky uncomfortable trains, heaters on during the summer, and even a tarin stopping short at Edinburgh, with no info as to replacement bus services. Open ticket did allow the use of a ScotRail service to complete the journey.

Cross Country seemed to provide a better service, but I rarely used them. Northern Rail do very well with the older rolling stock. A return journey on Virgin West Coast wen't very well. Got into Carlilse 5 minutes early, with a very smooth ride. 

I'm surprised about that mind Scott. It's usually people complaining that the air conditioning is on during the winter, not heating in the summer. I'm doing long distance on East Coast every other week, and it's very rare I've had a problem. It tends to be caused by trespassing or line faults when it is.

Cross Country on the other hand. I've absolutely no desire to use a train that smells worse than a public toilet. When I do Glasgow, I always do East Coast to Edinburgh, and then ScotRail to Glasgow. Never direct via Cross Country.

I've rarely used Virgin, but did have a spell last year where I had to for a few weeks running. Not a massive fan of the Pendolinos. They always feel a bit cramped, and I don't find the standard seating comfortable. The trains are always clean inside and out though, unlike Cross Country.

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27 Nov 2014, 7:36 pm #163

(27 Nov 2014, 9:16 am)Scott I found East Coast rather sloppey with jerky uncomfortable trains, heaters on during the summer, and even a tarin stopping short at Edinburgh, with no info as to replacement bus services. Open ticket did allow the use of a ScotRail service to complete the journey.

Cross Country seemed to provide a better service, but I rarely used them. Northern Rail do very well with the older rolling stock. A return journey on Virgin West Coast wen't very well. Got into Carlilse 5 minutes early, with a very smooth ride. 

I'm surprised about that mind Scott. It's usually people complaining that the air conditioning is on during the winter, not heating in the summer. I'm doing long distance on East Coast every other week, and it's very rare I've had a problem. It tends to be caused by trespassing or line faults when it is.

Cross Country on the other hand. I've absolutely no desire to use a train that smells worse than a public toilet. When I do Glasgow, I always do East Coast to Edinburgh, and then ScotRail to Glasgow. Never direct via Cross Country.

I've rarely used Virgin, but did have a spell last year where I had to for a few weeks running. Not a massive fan of the Pendolinos. They always feel a bit cramped, and I don't find the standard seating comfortable. The trains are always clean inside and out though, unlike Cross Country.


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06 Dec 2014, 3:08 pm #164
All Aboard: East Coast Trains is on Sky 1 HD until 5:00 if anyone is interested! Smile
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06 Dec 2014, 3:08 pm #164

All Aboard: East Coast Trains is on Sky 1 HD until 5:00 if anyone is interested! Smile

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06 Dec 2014, 4:03 pm #165
(06 Dec 2014, 3:08 pm)MarcTheA4 All Aboard: East Coast Trains is on Sky 1 HD until 5:00 if anyone is interested! Smile

Also I see there is a new series about First Great Western on Channel 5 on Thursdays 8pm
citaro5284
06 Dec 2014, 4:03 pm #165

(06 Dec 2014, 3:08 pm)MarcTheA4 All Aboard: East Coast Trains is on Sky 1 HD until 5:00 if anyone is interested! Smile

Also I see there is a new series about First Great Western on Channel 5 on Thursdays 8pm

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06 Dec 2014, 10:27 pm #166
(06 Dec 2014, 4:03 pm)citaro5284 Also I see there is a new series about First Great Western on Channel 5 on Thursdays 8pm

I watched a bit of this on Thursday night. It seemed pretty interesting.
MurdnunoC
06 Dec 2014, 10:27 pm #166

(06 Dec 2014, 4:03 pm)citaro5284 Also I see there is a new series about First Great Western on Channel 5 on Thursdays 8pm

I watched a bit of this on Thursday night. It seemed pretty interesting.

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06 Dec 2014, 10:30 pm #167
(06 Dec 2014, 10:27 pm)AdamY I watched a bit of this on Thursday night. It seemed pretty interesting.

Yeah, I thought that too.  Just goes to show when the weather turns what the train companies and Network Rail can be up against.
citaro5284
06 Dec 2014, 10:30 pm #167

(06 Dec 2014, 10:27 pm)AdamY I watched a bit of this on Thursday night. It seemed pretty interesting.

Yeah, I thought that too.  Just goes to show when the weather turns what the train companies and Network Rail can be up against.

Adrian



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06 Dec 2014, 10:32 pm #168
Also on demand if anyone wants to catch it - http://www.channel5.com/shows/the-railwa...sode-1-638

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06 Dec 2014, 10:32 pm #168

Also on demand if anyone wants to catch it - http://www.channel5.com/shows/the-railwa...sode-1-638


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06 Dec 2014, 10:45 pm #169
I think I may watch the entire episode tonight.

I only caught the last 20 minutes or so on Thursday night.
MurdnunoC
06 Dec 2014, 10:45 pm #169

I think I may watch the entire episode tonight.

I only caught the last 20 minutes or so on Thursday night.

Andreos1



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06 Dec 2014, 11:14 pm #170
Didn't catch this, but the first series was quite good.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
06 Dec 2014, 11:14 pm #170

Didn't catch this, but the first series was quite good.


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

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06 Dec 2014, 11:19 pm #171
(06 Dec 2014, 11:14 pm)Andreos1 Didn't catch this, but the first series was quite good.

I had not seen it advertised, so missed the first 20 mins, but caught it on demand this afternoon.
citaro5284
06 Dec 2014, 11:19 pm #171

(06 Dec 2014, 11:14 pm)Andreos1 Didn't catch this, but the first series was quite good.

I had not seen it advertised, so missed the first 20 mins, but caught it on demand this afternoon.

Andreos1



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17 Dec 2014, 9:05 am #172
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-30504898

Dft criticised over Thameslink and IEP deals.

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Andreos1
17 Dec 2014, 9:05 am #172

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-30504898

Dft criticised over Thameslink and IEP deals.


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Adam



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29 Dec 2014, 10:44 pm #173
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-30625622

Close incident between a train and an HGV yesterday on the ECML.
Adam
29 Dec 2014, 10:44 pm #173

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-30625622

Close incident between a train and an HGV yesterday on the ECML.

Adrian



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29 Dec 2014, 10:53 pm #174
(29 Dec 2014, 10:44 pm)Adam http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-30625622

Close incident between a train and an HGV yesterday on the ECML.

Baffling. The article makes clear that the HGV driver was being cautious, and no one has thought to ask Network Rail or Durham County Council why they aren't gritting routes that pose a severe danger to human life. It should be common sense that a downward slope towards a level crossing is gritted, and as a matter of course, not upon an ad-hoc request.

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29 Dec 2014, 10:53 pm #174

(29 Dec 2014, 10:44 pm)Adam http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-30625622

Close incident between a train and an HGV yesterday on the ECML.

Baffling. The article makes clear that the HGV driver was being cautious, and no one has thought to ask Network Rail or Durham County Council why they aren't gritting routes that pose a severe danger to human life. It should be common sense that a downward slope towards a level crossing is gritted, and as a matter of course, not upon an ad-hoc request.


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29 Dec 2014, 10:56 pm #175
I think it is a private road. Certainly a dead end just the other side of the crossing - if it is the one I am thinking of.

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Andreos1
29 Dec 2014, 10:56 pm #175

I think it is a private road. Certainly a dead end just the other side of the crossing - if it is the one I am thinking of.


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30 Dec 2014, 9:28 pm #176
(29 Dec 2014, 10:53 pm)aureolin Baffling. The article makes clear that the HGV driver was being cautious, and no one has thought to ask Network Rail or Durham County Council why they aren't gritting routes that pose a severe danger to human life. It should be common sense that a downward slope towards a level crossing is gritted, and as a matter of course, not upon an ad-hoc request.

The thing is that road salt works best once it's been 'ground in' by cars and the like. If there was no traffic between the gritting and the barriers closing, it would've had little effect.

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30 Dec 2014, 9:28 pm #176

(29 Dec 2014, 10:53 pm)aureolin Baffling. The article makes clear that the HGV driver was being cautious, and no one has thought to ask Network Rail or Durham County Council why they aren't gritting routes that pose a severe danger to human life. It should be common sense that a downward slope towards a level crossing is gritted, and as a matter of course, not upon an ad-hoc request.

The thing is that road salt works best once it's been 'ground in' by cars and the like. If there was no traffic between the gritting and the barriers closing, it would've had little effect.


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01 Jan 2015, 5:48 pm #177
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-30649551?ocid...ow_twitter

Toc's forced to promote cheaper tickets.

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Andreos1
01 Jan 2015, 5:48 pm #177

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-30649551?ocid...ow_twitter

Toc's forced to promote cheaper tickets.


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05 Jan 2015, 12:18 pm #178
http://www.nrm.org.uk/PlanaVisit/Events/...-gala.aspx

Events organised for Feb half term at Shildon.

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Andreos1
05 Jan 2015, 12:18 pm #178

http://www.nrm.org.uk/PlanaVisit/Events/...-gala.aspx

Events organised for Feb half term at Shildon.


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05 Jan 2015, 12:47 pm #179
(05 Jan 2015, 12:18 pm)Andreos1 http://www.nrm.org.uk/PlanaVisit/Events/...-gala.aspx

Events organised for Feb half term at Shildon.

Oh joy! I look forward to a week of late running 5/5A's because people are stood on the bridge by the railway station and diversions of the 1/5/5A through Shildon again because of badly parked cars nearby.
Jimmi
05 Jan 2015, 12:47 pm #179

(05 Jan 2015, 12:18 pm)Andreos1 http://www.nrm.org.uk/PlanaVisit/Events/...-gala.aspx

Events organised for Feb half term at Shildon.

Oh joy! I look forward to a week of late running 5/5A's because people are stood on the bridge by the railway station and diversions of the 1/5/5A through Shildon again because of badly parked cars nearby.

Adrian



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05 Jan 2015, 7:49 pm #180
East Coast are doing a big seat sale at the moment. Newcastle to London £10 each way. I've managed to find plenty of tickets, and for decent train times too.

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05 Jan 2015, 7:49 pm #180

East Coast are doing a big seat sale at the moment. Newcastle to London £10 each way. I've managed to find plenty of tickets, and for decent train times too.


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