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tyresmoke



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26 Nov 2014, 12:07 am #121
(25 Nov 2014, 12:29 pm)Scott Trains are often busy on Match days, so check when Newacstle and Sunderland are playing at home and you may see a link.

In some cases a simpe allocation of a class 156 instead of a class 142 removes the need from joining 2 trains together to provide peak cover. I occasionally see a class 142 and a class 156 working together, which puzzles me as they are completly different.

There is a morning service allocated 2x142 from Hexham-Middlesbrough because it was leaving people behind with 1 unit.

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tyresmoke
26 Nov 2014, 12:07 am #121

(25 Nov 2014, 12:29 pm)Scott Trains are often busy on Match days, so check when Newacstle and Sunderland are playing at home and you may see a link.

In some cases a simpe allocation of a class 156 instead of a class 142 removes the need from joining 2 trains together to provide peak cover. I occasionally see a class 142 and a class 156 working together, which puzzles me as they are completly different.

There is a morning service allocated 2x142 from Hexham-Middlesbrough because it was leaving people behind with 1 unit.


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MurdnunoC



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26 Nov 2014, 12:14 am #122
(25 Nov 2014, 10:37 am)Scott As an ocassional user myself, most carriages are empty, except on some occasional journeys - mainly the curry train.

What's the curry train? - I almost dread asking.
MurdnunoC
26 Nov 2014, 12:14 am #122

(25 Nov 2014, 10:37 am)Scott As an ocassional user myself, most carriages are empty, except on some occasional journeys - mainly the curry train.

What's the curry train? - I almost dread asking.

28 Nov 2014, 1:04 am #123
Only 1 service in and out of Newcastle is allocated a double set on a weekday and that is the 0743 Hexham to Middlesborough. Double set allocated even if one is a 156 (unless there is a unit shortage) as 1 unit goes empty from Middlesborough to Darlington and acts as spare cover at Darlington in case of disruption.
There is no reservations for The Valley that stopped ages ago but they try to keep themselves sat together.
anvil1984
28 Nov 2014, 1:04 am #123

Only 1 service in and out of Newcastle is allocated a double set on a weekday and that is the 0743 Hexham to Middlesborough. Double set allocated even if one is a 156 (unless there is a unit shortage) as 1 unit goes empty from Middlesborough to Darlington and acts as spare cover at Darlington in case of disruption.
There is no reservations for The Valley that stopped ages ago but they try to keep themselves sat together.

Dan

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28 Nov 2014, 9:43 pm #124
(24 Nov 2014, 5:30 pm)tyresmoke I don't think they do on the Windermere branch either but that's due to be done I believe!
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cumbria-30238130
Dan
28 Nov 2014, 9:43 pm #124

(24 Nov 2014, 5:30 pm)tyresmoke I don't think they do on the Windermere branch either but that's due to be done I believe!
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cumbria-30238130

29 Nov 2014, 4:53 pm #125
The Winderemere branch uses Transpennine Express units (class 185's I think) that come from Lancaster / Manchester Airport, go back and forth to Oxenholme a couple of times, then go back to Manchester Airport, so I suspect the only reason the lines being electrified is so TPE can use new electric trains on that route without having to cling on to a couple of diesels just to run that line. Plus Oxenholme to Windermere is a lot shorter train journey than Newcastle to Carlisle!
passenger_10
29 Nov 2014, 4:53 pm #125

The Winderemere branch uses Transpennine Express units (class 185's I think) that come from Lancaster / Manchester Airport, go back and forth to Oxenholme a couple of times, then go back to Manchester Airport, so I suspect the only reason the lines being electrified is so TPE can use new electric trains on that route without having to cling on to a couple of diesels just to run that line. Plus Oxenholme to Windermere is a lot shorter train journey than Newcastle to Carlisle!

Andreos1



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29 Nov 2014, 5:03 pm #126
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/rail-...e-district

More on the electrification.

What I find strange, is that TPE were part of the team behind the business plan, (yet with the franchise possibly going elsewhere prior to the 2017 date that has been mentioned for completion of the electrification) - they may not get to run a service on it.
Essentially seeing another toc benefiting from their hard work and enterprise.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
29 Nov 2014, 5:03 pm #126

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/rail-...e-district

More on the electrification.

What I find strange, is that TPE were part of the team behind the business plan, (yet with the franchise possibly going elsewhere prior to the 2017 date that has been mentioned for completion of the electrification) - they may not get to run a service on it.
Essentially seeing another toc benefiting from their hard work and enterprise.


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

30 Nov 2014, 12:23 pm #127
(29 Nov 2014, 5:03 pm)Andreos1 https://www.gov.uk/government/news/rail-...e-district

More on the electrification.

What I find strange, is that TPE were part of the team behind the business plan, (yet with the franchise possibly going elsewhere prior to the 2017 date that has been mentioned for completion of the electrification) - they may not get to run a service on it.
Essentially seeing another toc benefiting from their hard work and enterprise.

"Once completed, the line will form part of a direct electrified route between key destinations in the region, including Kendal, Burneside and Staveley, and Manchester".


Scraping the barrel somewhat to say Burnside and Staveley are "key destinations".


Not only may the franchise not end up with First after 2017, the Manchester Airport to Lancaster / Barrow / Windermere may end up as part of the future Northern franchise.

https://www.gov.uk/government/consultati...franchises
passenger_10
30 Nov 2014, 12:23 pm #127

(29 Nov 2014, 5:03 pm)Andreos1 https://www.gov.uk/government/news/rail-...e-district

More on the electrification.

What I find strange, is that TPE were part of the team behind the business plan, (yet with the franchise possibly going elsewhere prior to the 2017 date that has been mentioned for completion of the electrification) - they may not get to run a service on it.
Essentially seeing another toc benefiting from their hard work and enterprise.

"Once completed, the line will form part of a direct electrified route between key destinations in the region, including Kendal, Burneside and Staveley, and Manchester".


Scraping the barrel somewhat to say Burnside and Staveley are "key destinations".


Not only may the franchise not end up with First after 2017, the Manchester Airport to Lancaster / Barrow / Windermere may end up as part of the future Northern franchise.

https://www.gov.uk/government/consultati...franchises

03 Dec 2014, 4:38 pm #128
Just seen Northern Rail's post on Twitter about the new Class 319.
R852 PRG
03 Dec 2014, 4:38 pm #128

Just seen Northern Rail's post on Twitter about the new Class 319.

Andreos1



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12 Dec 2014, 10:19 pm #129
Looks like the replacements for the pacers have been identified.
Not ScotRail stock either!

http://m.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/1166...on_claims/

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
12 Dec 2014, 10:19 pm #129

Looks like the replacements for the pacers have been identified.
Not ScotRail stock either!

http://m.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/1166...on_claims/


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

12 Dec 2014, 10:21 pm #130
(12 Dec 2014, 10:19 pm)Andreos1 Looks like the replacements for the pacers have been identified.
Not ScotRail stock either!

http://m.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/1166...on_claims/

Can't imagine a tube on the Tyne Valley Line, like! Wink
R852 PRG
12 Dec 2014, 10:21 pm #130

(12 Dec 2014, 10:19 pm)Andreos1 Looks like the replacements for the pacers have been identified.
Not ScotRail stock either!

http://m.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/1166...on_claims/

Can't imagine a tube on the Tyne Valley Line, like! Wink

Tommy1581



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15 Dec 2014, 10:25 am #131
(03 Dec 2014, 4:38 pm)MarcTheA4 Just seen Northern Rail's post on Twitter about the new Class 319.

They're not new... They're from 1987, the same year all 96 Class 142s had been finished.
Tommy1581
15 Dec 2014, 10:25 am #131

(03 Dec 2014, 4:38 pm)MarcTheA4 Just seen Northern Rail's post on Twitter about the new Class 319.

They're not new... They're from 1987, the same year all 96 Class 142s had been finished.

Adrian



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15 Dec 2014, 1:16 pm #132
The 319s are shockingly bad. I was in hope that they were going to receive the full refurbishment as previously suggested, but that looks somewhat in doubt, with a basic refurbishment being preferred. Northern powerhouse eh....

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Adrian
15 Dec 2014, 1:16 pm #132

The 319s are shockingly bad. I was in hope that they were going to receive the full refurbishment as previously suggested, but that looks somewhat in doubt, with a basic refurbishment being preferred. Northern powerhouse eh....


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17 Dec 2014, 4:12 pm #133
Meet the manager session on platform 5 at Central Station between 1630 and 1800 tonight.

Complementary mince pies and hot drinks too!

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
17 Dec 2014, 4:12 pm #133

Meet the manager session on platform 5 at Central Station between 1630 and 1800 tonight.

Complementary mince pies and hot drinks too!


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

17 Dec 2014, 4:14 pm #134
(15 Dec 2014, 10:25 am)ArrivaNE_7522 They're not new... They're from 1987, the same year all 96 Class 142s had been finished.

I know they're old - when I made the post I assumed everyone would know I was referring to it's new appearance.
R852 PRG
17 Dec 2014, 4:14 pm #134

(15 Dec 2014, 10:25 am)ArrivaNE_7522 They're not new... They're from 1987, the same year all 96 Class 142s had been finished.

I know they're old - when I made the post I assumed everyone would know I was referring to it's new appearance.

Adrian



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17 Dec 2014, 8:12 pm #135
(17 Dec 2014, 4:12 pm)Andreos1 Meet the manager session on platform 5 at Central Station between 1630 and 1800 tonight.

Complementary mince pies and hot drinks too!
I was half expecting it to be cancelled due to a crew member being unavailable...

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Adrian
17 Dec 2014, 8:12 pm #135

(17 Dec 2014, 4:12 pm)Andreos1 Meet the manager session on platform 5 at Central Station between 1630 and 1800 tonight.

Complementary mince pies and hot drinks too!
I was half expecting it to be cancelled due to a crew member being unavailable...


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17 Dec 2014, 8:12 pm #136
(17 Dec 2014, 8:12 pm)aureolin I was half expecting it to be cancelled due to a crew member being unavailable...

*boom tish*
R852 PRG
17 Dec 2014, 8:12 pm #136

(17 Dec 2014, 8:12 pm)aureolin I was half expecting it to be cancelled due to a crew member being unavailable...

*boom tish*

LeeCalder



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21 Dec 2014, 9:38 am #137
Personally I hope the Pacers are withdrawn pretty soon, and we get some 158's they are my favourite Northern train, and I'd love to see them in the North East
LeeCalder
21 Dec 2014, 9:38 am #137

Personally I hope the Pacers are withdrawn pretty soon, and we get some 158's they are my favourite Northern train, and I'd love to see them in the North East

21 Dec 2014, 11:50 am #138
(21 Dec 2014, 9:38 am)leestransportphotos Personally I hope the Pacers are withdrawn pretty soon, and we get some 158's they are my favourite Northern train, and I'd love to see them in the North East

Refer to Andreos' post a few above. In the article it mentions ex-Tube stock.
R852 PRG
21 Dec 2014, 11:50 am #138

(21 Dec 2014, 9:38 am)leestransportphotos Personally I hope the Pacers are withdrawn pretty soon, and we get some 158's they are my favourite Northern train, and I'd love to see them in the North East

Refer to Andreos' post a few above. In the article it mentions ex-Tube stock.

LeeCalder



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21 Dec 2014, 4:07 pm #139
Thank you, I'm sure I read something like that in Rail before
LeeCalder
21 Dec 2014, 4:07 pm #139

Thank you, I'm sure I read something like that in Rail before

Y961 XBU



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25 Dec 2014, 9:56 pm #140
Its been said somewhere that Pacers will not be withdrawn when the Class 319s enter service, I think the plan is that the extra capacity will be spread between the Liverpool/Manchester Depots. I for one hope this means improvements for the last Liverpool - Wigan service on a Saturday Night as am getting sick of the 4 Car standing load full of Drunk people thing

Am also told that the Class 319s are due out early Feb.
Y961 XBU
25 Dec 2014, 9:56 pm #140

Its been said somewhere that Pacers will not be withdrawn when the Class 319s enter service, I think the plan is that the extra capacity will be spread between the Liverpool/Manchester Depots. I for one hope this means improvements for the last Liverpool - Wigan service on a Saturday Night as am getting sick of the 4 Car standing load full of Drunk people thing

Am also told that the Class 319s are due out early Feb.

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