(13 Jan 2015, 8:30 pm)Malarkey wrote I picked up a Leaflet on the Changes to the Service last week when getting off an 82/83, It states the following in regards to the Route.
Services 82/82A/83
- From 1 February 2015, 82 & 83 services will be revised to offer new connections following discussions with customers about their travel patterns. Your revised routes will be numbered 82, 82A & 982 and we’ll now be serving Birtley Northside as well as Meresyde and Grange Crescent in Leam Lane Estate to provide new connections. A summary of each route is provided below.
- Service 82 – Buses will run from Birtley Northside to Heworth via Birtley Centre, Portmeads, Portobello, Barley Mow, Ayton, Lambton, Washington Galleries, Biddick, Barmston Centre, Spout Lane, Concord, Usworth, Lingey Lane & Leam Lane Estate. In the opposite direction, buses will run from Heworth Interchange to Rickleton via Leam Lane Estate, Lingey Lane, Usworth, Concord, Spout Lane, Barmston Centre, Biddick, Washington Galleries, Lambton, Ayton & Vigo Lane.
- Buses will run every 30 minutes in each direction on Monday to Saturday daytimes, providing a service every 15 minutes on the combined section of the route with the 82A between Ayton, Lambton, Galleries, Barmston and Concord.
- The evening journeys between Heworth Interchange and Concord will no longer run, but will be replaced with an improved frequency on Connections 4, which will now run every 20 minutes between Heworth Interchange and Fatfield via Lingey Lane, Usworth, Concord and Galleries. The evening services between Concord and Birtley that are provided by Arriva will remain unchanged.
- On Sundays, buses will run every 30 minutes during the day from Birtley Station Lane to Concord.
- Service 83 – will be replaced by service 82A. Buses will run from Rickleton to Concord via Harraton, Wear Industrial Estate, Ayton, Lambton, Washington Galleries, Biddick, Barmston Waskerley Road & Hertburn Industrial Estate. In the opposite direction, buses will run from Concord to Birtley Northside via Hertburn Industrial Estate, Barmston Waskerley Road, Biddick, Washington Galleries, Lambton, Ayton, Barley Mow, Portobello, Portmeads and Birtley Centre.
- Buses will run every 30 minutes in each direction on Monday to Saturday daytimes, providing a service every 15 minutes on the combined section of the route with the 82A between Ayton, Lambton, Galleries, Barmston and Concord. The route won’t serve the section between Concord and Heworth due to low passenger numbers, with customers for Stephenson Industrial Estate being able to use the 982 service (see below) and customers from Sulgrave being able to use the Whey Aye 50 for journeys to Washington or the Fab 56 for journeys to Gateshead or Newcastle.
- On Sundays, buses will run every 30 minutes during the day from Concord to Birtley Station Lane.
- Service 982 – Buses will run at peak times between Concord Bus Station and Stephenson Industrial Estate to maintain connections for commuters.
(05 Jan 2015, 9:12 pm)Tom wrote Cheers.
(13 Jan 2015, 7:20 pm)Andreos1 wrote I hadn't seen that. Thanks.I think it go will from Northside via Blackfell Way - Sanders Gardens - Durham Road - The Avenue/Fell Bank - Portmeads - Glenluce/Windermere/The Drive/Bedford Avenue (Barley Mow Estate) - Vigo Lane and then current route towards The Galleries.
It does slightly - in that it clarifies the section via Barley Mow Inn is no longer served.
It doesn't state the route between Portmeads and Birtley Front Street, which means I can only assume it is going via Fell Bank and Harras Bank in both directions.
So: ...Portmeads, Fell Bank, Harras Bank, Front Street, Northside - Northside, Front Street, Harras Bank, Fell Bank, Portmeads...
I have never been asked about my travel patterns, Malarkey and aureolin haven't mentioned about the time they were asked either.
(13 Jan 2015, 9:03 pm)Malarkey wrote I think it go will from Northside via Blackfell Way - Sanders Gardens - Durham Road - The Avenue/Fell Bank - Portmeads - Glenluce/Windermere/The Drive/Bedford Avenue (Barley Mow Estate) - Vigo Lane and then current route towards The Galleries.
As for being asked about Travel Patterns, your going to have jog my memory on this one as I honest cant remember anything about this.
(13 Jan 2015, 8:49 pm)BJ10VUS wrote It is odd that with the reduction of service X36 to hourly, Sunderland to Heworth will get a better frequency during the evenings and on Sundays, in comparison to during the day on weekdays and Saturday!
(13 Jan 2015, 9:33 pm)Malarkey wrote The Avenue looks a Nightmare for Parked Cars from looking on Google Maps so that would be a big no no, so it would therefore have to go up Harras Bank as you mentioned or Alternatively the B1288/Birtley Lane and then up Fell Bank, I have a feeling it may do the current 83 route into Birtley and up to Northside then back out via Portmeads and Barley Mow Estate.
So therefore the Route could be, Vigo Lane - A167/Durham Road - Sanders Gardens - Blackfell Way - Northside - Portmeads - Barley Mow Estate - Vigo Lane, So basically a One Way Loop of Birtley omitting Fell Bank
(13 Jan 2015, 8:49 pm)BJ10VUS wrote It is odd that with the reduction of service X36 to hourly, Sunderland to Heworth will get a better frequency during the evenings and on Sundays, in comparison to during the day on weekdays and Saturday!
(13 Jan 2015, 11:28 pm)Drifter60 wrote Good point, a little silly that. Why are nexus using public money to fund a service during the evening that doesn't even run during the day? Or arguably nexus should be stepping in to replace the lost daytime link by X36 terminating short.
Out of interest is the loss of the Heworth link a problem? Not sure what any of the NEB Sunderland members think. I know the point is probably to reduce PVR, but could X36 not run Sunderland-Heworth? Then could it interwork with X35 to keep reliability?
Worth mentioning also, GNE, are now operating X36 in 55 minutes, It currently does it in 58 minutes. And I'm sure it used to do it 60 when Northern branded.
(13 Jan 2015, 9:51 pm)Andreos1 wrote Isn't the evening and Sunday when Nexus fund it?
At least the bus lane will be utilised by more than just a couple of services during those times :p
(13 Jan 2015, 11:28 pm)Drifter60 wrote Good point, a little silly that. Why are nexus using public money to fund a service during the evening that doesn't even run during the day? Or arguably nexus should be stepping in to replace the lost daytime link by X36 terminating short.
(14 Jan 2015, 7:43 am)Dan wrote With regards to the bus lane and the services in and out of Heworth using it:
Service 4 is fully commercially operated, and this is the service seeing an increase in frequency on evenings and Sundays. Between Heworth and Concord, after 19:23, services 82/82A are also commercially operated. These journeys will be withdrawn and replaced by the increased frequency of service 4, from the first week in February. As I have said before, the resources saved from cutting services 82/82A on an evening/Sunday go into the revised 4 service. The Concord - Birtley section of the route is secured by Nexus, and this section remains unchanged on evenings/Sundays.
As service 29A is not commercially operated, this service was not subject to Go North East's changes, and remains unchanged (albeit re-numbered to coincide with the new 35/36 service route numbers). The buses, in my experience, run empty, but this is clearly how Nexus wishes to use public money. I think there will be some logic behind it, however. The weekday service of Nexus-secured 558 terminates at Heworth, but on Sundays, the service is curtailed at Cotswold Estate (just after Boldon ASDA). The resource which would have been needed to continue the 558 to Heworth (which would have otherwise been saved) has continued to be pumped into the half-hourly 29A service, despite the fact that there's no great need for it. At least that tax-payer funded bus lane will be getting used, eh?
(15 Jan 2015, 3:09 pm)park5354 wrote New timetables are continuing to appear on www.simplygo.com
Services 2/2A will be Simplicty.
Service 61 will be silver Go North East.
Service 39 will be red Go North East.
(15 Jan 2015, 3:09 pm)park5354 wrote New timetables are continuing to appear on www.simplygo.com
Services 2/2A will be Simplicty.
Service 61 will be silver Go North East.
Service 39 will be red Go North East.
(17 Jan 2015, 4:05 pm)cbma06 wrote I would expect service 35 will be plain gold colour (by the draft timetable it states Gold as per (laser Gold colour)) similar as the silver going onto service 61.
Can the simplicity versas manage Washington to Silksworth with the loadings between Sunderland and Washington?.
I would of expected that the 45/46 would of been upgraded by now or soon and putting the red kite Omni's on less demanding short routes, what does other members think?.
(17 Jan 2015, 4:30 pm)Andreos1 wrote Beyond peaks, I haven't seen the loadings on the 2a/2c justify the frequency or capacity that is seen currently.And even though a Citaro looks a lot bigger than a Versa, I think there is only about 8 difference in capacity against the 2. Of course I think it would be more comfortable when full on a Citaro.
(17 Jan 2015, 5:20 pm)Michael wrote Bus firm defends decision to change South Shields to Sunderland service.
http://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/busin...-1-7053494
(05 Jan 2015, 9:12 pm)Tom wrote Cheers.
(17 Jan 2015, 5:20 pm)Michael wrote Bus firm defends decision to change South Shields to Sunderland service.Cant see why they are complaining for to be honest, as theyll be able to get on 2/2A Every 10 Minutes, the revised 35/36 Every 10 Minutes, and finally 39 and 700 every 15 Minutes and 78 Every 30 Minutes, unless they are Travelling with Stagecoach on the E1/E2 and E6 in which they can then get on the 16 which Every 10 Minutes I think, not as if there isnt any Buses now is it from Sunderland City Centre to the Royal Hospital.
http://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/busin...-1-7053494
(17 Jan 2015, 5:20 pm)Michael wrote Bus firm defends decision to change South Shields to Sunderland service.
http://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/busin...-1-7053494
(17 Jan 2015, 5:34 pm)Malarkey wrote Cant see why they are complaining for to be honest, as theyll be able to get on 2/2A Every 10 Minutes, the revised 35/36 Every 10 Minutes, and finally 39 and 700 every 15 Minutes and 78 Every 30 Minutes, unless they are Travelling with Stagecoach on the E1/E2 and E6 in which they can then get on the 16 which Every 10 Minutes I think, not as if there isnt any Buses now is it from Sunderland City Centre to the Royal Hospital.