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Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - February 2015

 
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11 Feb 2015, 11:01 pm #41
(11 Feb 2015, 11:00 pm)chrisnorthern It's a long-time survival of competition years ago between Busways and a firm called Catch-a-Bus, who were based at East Boldon. They mainly operated local services in South Shields but also had a route between South Shields and Sunderland, using route number 6. Busways' retaliation was numbered E6 to match the Catch-a-Bus number.
This would be in the 1989-1993 period if I remember correctly. There was also an E3 for a short time. If I can find the details of this route anywhere, I'll post them tomorrow.
Hope this helps,
Chris

Thanks Chris. Smile It was just one of those things that just sprung into my mind lol.
R852 PRG
11 Feb 2015, 11:01 pm #41

(11 Feb 2015, 11:00 pm)chrisnorthern It's a long-time survival of competition years ago between Busways and a firm called Catch-a-Bus, who were based at East Boldon. They mainly operated local services in South Shields but also had a route between South Shields and Sunderland, using route number 6. Busways' retaliation was numbered E6 to match the Catch-a-Bus number.
This would be in the 1989-1993 period if I remember correctly. There was also an E3 for a short time. If I can find the details of this route anywhere, I'll post them tomorrow.
Hope this helps,
Chris

Thanks Chris. Smile It was just one of those things that just sprung into my mind lol.

11 Feb 2015, 11:30 pm #42
(11 Feb 2015, 11:01 pm)MarcTheA4 Thanks Chris. Smile It was just one of those things that just sprung into my mind lol.

Some of us older generation do come in handy at times!
chrisnorthern
11 Feb 2015, 11:30 pm #42

(11 Feb 2015, 11:01 pm)MarcTheA4 Thanks Chris. Smile It was just one of those things that just sprung into my mind lol.

Some of us older generation do come in handy at times!

Acky81



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11 Feb 2015, 11:30 pm #43
You would think by now these services would have been renumbered E1 E2 E3
But then again why E numbers. Economic no longer exists it now all stagecoach in South shields
Acky81
11 Feb 2015, 11:30 pm #43

You would think by now these services would have been renumbered E1 E2 E3
But then again why E numbers. Economic no longer exists it now all stagecoach in South shields

11 Feb 2015, 11:35 pm #44
(11 Feb 2015, 11:30 pm)Acky81 You would think by now these services would have been renumbered  E1 E2 E3
But then again why E numbers. Economic no longer exists it now all stagecoach in South shields

Usual Stagecoach policy - if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Just think of how many current Stagecoach routes still use the same service numbers as they did 20+ years ago, wherever you think of, Newcastle, South Shields or Sunderland. I don't remember enough about Hartlepool or Teesside to know if the same is true there but I'm sure somebody will put me right!

Chris
chrisnorthern
11 Feb 2015, 11:35 pm #44

(11 Feb 2015, 11:30 pm)Acky81 You would think by now these services would have been renumbered  E1 E2 E3
But then again why E numbers. Economic no longer exists it now all stagecoach in South shields

Usual Stagecoach policy - if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Just think of how many current Stagecoach routes still use the same service numbers as they did 20+ years ago, wherever you think of, Newcastle, South Shields or Sunderland. I don't remember enough about Hartlepool or Teesside to know if the same is true there but I'm sure somebody will put me right!

Chris

Michael



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12 Feb 2015, 8:01 am #45
Currently on 39727 and the driver is driving like a maniac...

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
12 Feb 2015, 8:01 am #45

Currently on 39727 and the driver is driving like a maniac...


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

alanf



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12 Feb 2015, 10:22 am #46
(11 Feb 2015, 8:51 pm)bertibassett That wouldn't work. Both the 37 and 38 get the same time to run from the boro, the problem is the 37 goes further hence what would seem a lot of time for the 38. If you run a 37 through the glebe what about junction road? or you would put an extra 10 minutes on the journey if you go down junction road and do a loop around the glebe, then you have a problem of all those lovely pensioners with accute 20/20 vision getting on the bus to the hospital thinking its going to the town only they dont read the destination, they just see the number, some folk just see the bus....doh
I know what you are saying but it would also give people on the Glebe a bus to the hospital If it ran via the Glebe bothways they would soon realise one is going to the hospital and the other to Middlesbrough As for the ring road its just pointless especially now the 38 appears to do 2 laps of Ashton Road so just go via Junction road both ways as it used to be I realise what you are saying about the extra 10 minutes journey time would a joint 37/38 work on an evening maybe when there is less traffic as i cant see the evening 38s lasting to long They are quite often empty in Norton.
alanf
12 Feb 2015, 10:22 am #46

(11 Feb 2015, 8:51 pm)bertibassett That wouldn't work. Both the 37 and 38 get the same time to run from the boro, the problem is the 37 goes further hence what would seem a lot of time for the 38. If you run a 37 through the glebe what about junction road? or you would put an extra 10 minutes on the journey if you go down junction road and do a loop around the glebe, then you have a problem of all those lovely pensioners with accute 20/20 vision getting on the bus to the hospital thinking its going to the town only they dont read the destination, they just see the number, some folk just see the bus....doh
I know what you are saying but it would also give people on the Glebe a bus to the hospital If it ran via the Glebe bothways they would soon realise one is going to the hospital and the other to Middlesbrough As for the ring road its just pointless especially now the 38 appears to do 2 laps of Ashton Road so just go via Junction road both ways as it used to be I realise what you are saying about the extra 10 minutes journey time would a joint 37/38 work on an evening maybe when there is less traffic as i cant see the evening 38s lasting to long They are quite often empty in Norton.

Adrian



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12 Feb 2015, 8:00 pm #47
No P10 Busways movements, and only one to report from Transit:
22206 T206 TND MAN ALX300 Delicenced to Reserve

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12 Feb 2015, 8:00 pm #47

No P10 Busways movements, and only one to report from Transit:
22206 T206 TND MAN ALX300 Delicenced to Reserve


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12 Feb 2015, 8:18 pm #48
(12 Feb 2015, 10:22 am)alanf I know what you are saying but it would also give people on the Glebe a bus to the hospital If it ran via the Glebe bothways they would soon realise one is going to the hospital and the other to Middlesbrough As for the ring road its just pointless especially now the 38 appears to do 2 laps of Ashton Road so just go via Junction road both ways as it used to be I realise what you are saying about the extra 10 minutes journey time would a joint 37/38 work on an evening maybe when there is less traffic as i cant see the evening 38s lasting to long They are quite often empty in Norton.
I see what you're saying and to be honest the 38 should never of been moved. As for the double loop, as far as i'm aware not many drivers do it, most drivers I've spoke to tend to use the duck pond, personal preference I pressume.
bertibassett
12 Feb 2015, 8:18 pm #48

(12 Feb 2015, 10:22 am)alanf I know what you are saying but it would also give people on the Glebe a bus to the hospital If it ran via the Glebe bothways they would soon realise one is going to the hospital and the other to Middlesbrough As for the ring road its just pointless especially now the 38 appears to do 2 laps of Ashton Road so just go via Junction road both ways as it used to be I realise what you are saying about the extra 10 minutes journey time would a joint 37/38 work on an evening maybe when there is less traffic as i cant see the evening 38s lasting to long They are quite often empty in Norton.
I see what you're saying and to be honest the 38 should never of been moved. As for the double loop, as far as i'm aware not many drivers do it, most drivers I've spoke to tend to use the duck pond, personal preference I pressume.

Cock Robin



2,778
13 Feb 2015, 10:53 am #49
(11 Feb 2015, 11:35 pm)chrisnorthern Usual Stagecoach policy - if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Just think of how many current Stagecoach routes still use the same service numbers as they did 20+ years ago, wherever you think of, Newcastle, South Shields or Sunderland. I don't remember enough about Hartlepool or Teesside to know if the same is true there but I'm sure somebody will put me right!

Chris

Better than Arriva changing the service numbers every few months!
Cock Robin
13 Feb 2015, 10:53 am #49

(11 Feb 2015, 11:35 pm)chrisnorthern Usual Stagecoach policy - if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Just think of how many current Stagecoach routes still use the same service numbers as they did 20+ years ago, wherever you think of, Newcastle, South Shields or Sunderland. I don't remember enough about Hartlepool or Teesside to know if the same is true there but I'm sure somebody will put me right!

Chris

Better than Arriva changing the service numbers every few months!

glen1234



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13 Feb 2015, 5:37 pm #50
Hi do you think stagecoach north east will get new Enviro 400 like Manchester ones or other Enviro 400 like Newcastle ones again.
glen1234
13 Feb 2015, 5:37 pm #50

Hi do you think stagecoach north east will get new Enviro 400 like Manchester ones or other Enviro 400 like Newcastle ones again.

Youngymmv



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13 Feb 2015, 5:43 pm #51
(13 Feb 2015, 5:37 pm)glen1234 Hi do you think stagecoach north east will get new Enviro 400 like Manchester ones or other Enviro 400 like Newcastle ones again.

Hi glen Im not sure if northeast would get any, in any case I believe the E400MMC is now the standard decker. The older style is no longer in production although I couldn't swear by that, 

Kind regards

Chris
Youngymmv
13 Feb 2015, 5:43 pm #51

(13 Feb 2015, 5:37 pm)glen1234 Hi do you think stagecoach north east will get new Enviro 400 like Manchester ones or other Enviro 400 like Newcastle ones again.

Hi glen Im not sure if northeast would get any, in any case I believe the E400MMC is now the standard decker. The older style is no longer in production although I couldn't swear by that, 

Kind regards

Chris

glen1234



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13 Feb 2015, 5:49 pm #52
thanks for that
glen1234
13 Feb 2015, 5:49 pm #52

thanks for that

glen1234



268
14 Feb 2015, 8:49 pm #53
I don't think we will be getting any second hand buses from any other fleet groups we never do but we might be getting some second hand Enviro 400 from other fleets I think too replace denies trident but not single decker's
glen1234
14 Feb 2015, 8:49 pm #53

I don't think we will be getting any second hand buses from any other fleet groups we never do but we might be getting some second hand Enviro 400 from other fleets I think too replace denies trident but not single decker's

Diamond One

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14 Feb 2015, 11:10 pm #54
does anyone think Stagecoach Gold should be introduced to North East i can name one route that will need it and thats X34 or possible others like 1/10/11/12/39/40
Diamond One
14 Feb 2015, 11:10 pm #54

does anyone think Stagecoach Gold should be introduced to North East i can name one route that will need it and thats X34 or possible others like 1/10/11/12/39/40

14 Feb 2015, 11:17 pm #55
(14 Feb 2015, 11:10 pm)Racer_Experience does anyone think Stagecoach Gold should be introduced to North East i can name one route that will need it and thats X34 or possible others like 1/10/11/12/39/40

I think it's more of a long-distance service brand, and I'm not sure any of the services Stagecoach operate in the north east are suited to it.

For example, the 300 over in Cumbria is Whitehaven-Maryport or something, and the total journey time from A to B is about 2 hours.

I'm sure I may have asked this question before, and the response I got was - there are no services in the north east that really justify such an investment. I can't imagine Gold hitting the streets of Newcastle, to be honest. And I'm not a Stagecoach expert at all.

A majority of the services in the north east provided by Stagecoach seem to be cross-city, etc, and I'm not really sure the Gold brand is right for any of them.

If Stagecoach introduced a Newcastle-Sunderland service, which would face immediate threat from the Fab56 or Fasts Cats X36 provided by Go North East (and thus be shot down like the OK1 was in competition with Arriva's X1 'The Best One'), I could imagine such a service being a Gold service. But like I say; the chances of that are rather slim.
R852 PRG
14 Feb 2015, 11:17 pm #55

(14 Feb 2015, 11:10 pm)Racer_Experience does anyone think Stagecoach Gold should be introduced to North East i can name one route that will need it and thats X34 or possible others like 1/10/11/12/39/40

I think it's more of a long-distance service brand, and I'm not sure any of the services Stagecoach operate in the north east are suited to it.

For example, the 300 over in Cumbria is Whitehaven-Maryport or something, and the total journey time from A to B is about 2 hours.

I'm sure I may have asked this question before, and the response I got was - there are no services in the north east that really justify such an investment. I can't imagine Gold hitting the streets of Newcastle, to be honest. And I'm not a Stagecoach expert at all.

A majority of the services in the north east provided by Stagecoach seem to be cross-city, etc, and I'm not really sure the Gold brand is right for any of them.

If Stagecoach introduced a Newcastle-Sunderland service, which would face immediate threat from the Fab56 or Fasts Cats X36 provided by Go North East (and thus be shot down like the OK1 was in competition with Arriva's X1 'The Best One'), I could imagine such a service being a Gold service. But like I say; the chances of that are rather slim.

Diamond One

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1,793
14 Feb 2015, 11:20 pm #56
(14 Feb 2015, 11:17 pm)MarcTheA4 I think it's more of a long-distance service brand, and I'm not sure any of the services Stagecoach operate in the north east are suited to it.

For example, the 300 over in Cumbria is Whitehaven-Maryport or something, and the total journey time from A to B is about 2 hours.

I'm sure I may have asked this question before, and the response I got was - there are no services in the north east that really justify such an investment. I can't imagine Gold hitting the streets of Newcastle, to be honest. And I'm not a Stagecoach expert at all.

A majority of the services in the north east provided by Stagecoach seem to be cross-city, etc, and I'm not really sure the Gold brand is right for any of them.

If Stagecoach introduced a Newcastle-Sunderland service, which would face immediate threat from the Fab56 or Fasts Cats X36 provided by Go North East (and thus be shot down like the OK1 was in competition with Arriva's X1 'The Best One'), I could imagine such a service being a Gold service. But like I say; the chances of that are rather slim.

I used to hate Arriva they killed off Go North East OK1 Service 
Diamond One
14 Feb 2015, 11:20 pm #56

(14 Feb 2015, 11:17 pm)MarcTheA4 I think it's more of a long-distance service brand, and I'm not sure any of the services Stagecoach operate in the north east are suited to it.

For example, the 300 over in Cumbria is Whitehaven-Maryport or something, and the total journey time from A to B is about 2 hours.

I'm sure I may have asked this question before, and the response I got was - there are no services in the north east that really justify such an investment. I can't imagine Gold hitting the streets of Newcastle, to be honest. And I'm not a Stagecoach expert at all.

A majority of the services in the north east provided by Stagecoach seem to be cross-city, etc, and I'm not really sure the Gold brand is right for any of them.

If Stagecoach introduced a Newcastle-Sunderland service, which would face immediate threat from the Fab56 or Fasts Cats X36 provided by Go North East (and thus be shot down like the OK1 was in competition with Arriva's X1 'The Best One'), I could imagine such a service being a Gold service. But like I say; the chances of that are rather slim.

I used to hate Arriva they killed off Go North East OK1 Service 

Michael



19,175
15 Feb 2015, 5:15 pm #57
Does anyone know the year which the 22/23/24 started to pass Thornhill school in Sunderland?, was it before the 22/23/24 got merged or was it when it ran as the 22/23/24?

And did they loose a link past Thornhill school, hence why the current 23 goes past?

(14 Feb 2015, 11:20 pm)Racer_Experience I used to hate Arriva they killed off Go North East OK1 Service 

Really because of that, that's stupid.
Edited 15 Feb 2015, 5:15 pm by Michael.

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Michael
15 Feb 2015, 5:15 pm #57

Does anyone know the year which the 22/23/24 started to pass Thornhill school in Sunderland?, was it before the 22/23/24 got merged or was it when it ran as the 22/23/24?

And did they loose a link past Thornhill school, hence why the current 23 goes past?


(14 Feb 2015, 11:20 pm)Racer_Experience I used to hate Arriva they killed off Go North East OK1 Service 

Really because of that, that's stupid.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Dan

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18,128
15 Feb 2015, 5:23 pm #58
(15 Feb 2015, 5:15 pm)Michael Does anyone know the year which the 22/23/24 started to pass Thornhill school in Sunderland?, was it before the 22/23/24 got merged or was it when it ran as the 22/23/24?

And did they loose a link past Thornhill school, hence why the current 23 goes past?

It used to be service 3 which went via Thornhill School, wasn't it? My sister was still in school at the time which is why it rings a bell... She would have left in 2006, so this may act as some guidance...
Dan
15 Feb 2015, 5:23 pm #58

(15 Feb 2015, 5:15 pm)Michael Does anyone know the year which the 22/23/24 started to pass Thornhill school in Sunderland?, was it before the 22/23/24 got merged or was it when it ran as the 22/23/24?

And did they loose a link past Thornhill school, hence why the current 23 goes past?

It used to be service 3 which went via Thornhill School, wasn't it? My sister was still in school at the time which is why it rings a bell... She would have left in 2006, so this may act as some guidance...

Michael



19,175
15 Feb 2015, 5:27 pm #59
(15 Feb 2015, 5:23 pm)Dan It used to be service 3 which went via Thornhill School, wasn't it? My sister was still in school at the time which is why it rings a bell... She would have left in 2006, so this may act as some guidance...

Hmm i'm not sure, i can't even remember what year the 22/23/24 or just the 23 started to divert that way. 

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
15 Feb 2015, 5:27 pm #59

(15 Feb 2015, 5:23 pm)Dan It used to be service 3 which went via Thornhill School, wasn't it? My sister was still in school at the time which is why it rings a bell... She would have left in 2006, so this may act as some guidance...

Hmm i'm not sure, i can't even remember what year the 22/23/24 or just the 23 started to divert that way. 


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

15 Feb 2015, 6:01 pm #60
(15 Feb 2015, 5:27 pm)Michael Hmm i'm not sure, i can't even remember what year the 22/23/24 or just the 23 started to divert that way. 

Service 3 stopped serving Thornholme Road in May 2005, coinciding with simplification of the Sunderland network.  This saw the withdrawal of Service 2, with all journeys operating as Service 3 along a new more direct route via New Durham Road, Plains Farm and Atlantis Road - omitting Thornholme Road (replaced by Services 22/23/24) and Gilley Law (replaced by Service 13).
stagecoachbusdepot
15 Feb 2015, 6:01 pm #60

(15 Feb 2015, 5:27 pm)Michael Hmm i'm not sure, i can't even remember what year the 22/23/24 or just the 23 started to divert that way. 

Service 3 stopped serving Thornholme Road in May 2005, coinciding with simplification of the Sunderland network.  This saw the withdrawal of Service 2, with all journeys operating as Service 3 along a new more direct route via New Durham Road, Plains Farm and Atlantis Road - omitting Thornholme Road (replaced by Services 22/23/24) and Gilley Law (replaced by Service 13).

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