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Dan

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04 May 2013, 6:00 am #41
Think I've got myself some special night shots planned - even though I believe I'm going to 2 out of 3 of those concerts? Wink

Here's hoping I can get on that 78 home though... :p
Dan
04 May 2013, 6:00 am #41

Think I've got myself some special night shots planned - even though I believe I'm going to 2 out of 3 of those concerts? Wink

Here's hoping I can get on that 78 home though... :p

Michael



19,178
04 May 2013, 9:53 am #42
(03 May 2013, 11:38 pm)Brandon Revised timetables for Prince Bishops, Laser, 61, M1, 923 & X1 have appeared online at Durham County Council -

http://durham.pindarcreative.co.uk/announcements.asp

It seems that the frequency of Sunday daytime 61's is being reduced to half-hourly.

Also online are special timetables for routes serving Stadium of Light on concert nights.

Shame about the 61 but the money could be getting used else where,i don't know the number of passengers on the 61 on a Sunday.

the other timetables uploaded, can't spot the changes, maybe its just small timing's.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
04 May 2013, 9:53 am #42

(03 May 2013, 11:38 pm)Brandon Revised timetables for Prince Bishops, Laser, 61, M1, 923 & X1 have appeared online at Durham County Council -

http://durham.pindarcreative.co.uk/announcements.asp

It seems that the frequency of Sunday daytime 61's is being reduced to half-hourly.

Also online are special timetables for routes serving Stadium of Light on concert nights.

Shame about the 61 but the money could be getting used else where,i don't know the number of passengers on the 61 on a Sunday.

the other timetables uploaded, can't spot the changes, maybe its just small timing's.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

gtom

Banned

1,316
04 May 2013, 10:58 am #43
The excellent SkyScraperCity forum has a thread following the Go North East bus depot at the Metrocentre

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1517587

(note - the thread is architecture based but has lots of photos and things really are shooting up)
gtom
04 May 2013, 10:58 am #43

The excellent SkyScraperCity forum has a thread following the Go North East bus depot at the Metrocentre

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1517587

(note - the thread is architecture based but has lots of photos and things really are shooting up)

citaro5284



3,234
04 May 2013, 11:12 am #44
(04 May 2013, 10:58 am)gtomlinson The excellent SkyScraperCity forum has a thread following the Go North East bus depot at the Metrocentre

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1517587

(note - the thread is architecture based but has lots of photos and things really are shooting up)

They are currently 1 week ahead of schedule
citaro5284
04 May 2013, 11:12 am #44

(04 May 2013, 10:58 am)gtomlinson The excellent SkyScraperCity forum has a thread following the Go North East bus depot at the Metrocentre

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1517587

(note - the thread is architecture based but has lots of photos and things really are shooting up)

They are currently 1 week ahead of schedule

Adam



717
04 May 2013, 1:40 pm #45
(04 May 2013, 11:12 am)citaro5284
(04 May 2013, 10:58 am)gtomlinson The excellent SkyScraperCity forum has a thread following the Go North East bus depot at the Metrocentre

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1517587

(note - the thread is architecture based but has lots of photos and things really are shooting up)

They are currently 1 week ahead of schedule

Does anyone know when its supposed to be opened?
Adam
04 May 2013, 1:40 pm #45

(04 May 2013, 11:12 am)citaro5284
(04 May 2013, 10:58 am)gtomlinson The excellent SkyScraperCity forum has a thread following the Go North East bus depot at the Metrocentre

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1517587

(note - the thread is architecture based but has lots of photos and things really are shooting up)

They are currently 1 week ahead of schedule

Does anyone know when its supposed to be opened?

citaro5284



3,234
04 May 2013, 2:05 pm #46
(04 May 2013, 1:40 pm)Adam
(04 May 2013, 11:12 am)citaro5284
(04 May 2013, 10:58 am)gtomlinson The excellent SkyScraperCity forum has a thread following the Go North East bus depot at the Metrocentre

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1517587

(note - the thread is architecture based but has lots of photos and things really are shooting up)

They are currently 1 week ahead of schedule

Does anyone know when its supposed to be opened?

January 2014
citaro5284
04 May 2013, 2:05 pm #46

(04 May 2013, 1:40 pm)Adam
(04 May 2013, 11:12 am)citaro5284
(04 May 2013, 10:58 am)gtomlinson The excellent SkyScraperCity forum has a thread following the Go North East bus depot at the Metrocentre

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1517587

(note - the thread is architecture based but has lots of photos and things really are shooting up)

They are currently 1 week ahead of schedule

Does anyone know when its supposed to be opened?

January 2014

Andreos1



14,260
05 May 2013, 4:48 pm #47
NexusBus Solo SR working the W5 in Washington - never seen it working that route before. Not sure how rare it is
Andreos1
05 May 2013, 4:48 pm #47

NexusBus Solo SR working the W5 in Washington - never seen it working that route before. Not sure how rare it is

Malarkey



6,064
05 May 2013, 4:50 pm #48
Odd Allocations 05/05/2013

Citylink 5344/49/55 on the X66
http://www.flickr.com/photos/adammalarke...otostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/adammalarke...otostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/adammalarke...otostream/

Highwayman 4933/38 on 96
http://www.flickr.com/photos/adammalarke...otostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/adammalarke...otostream/

Also there is new Advert been applied on a few of the Loop Wright Solars, Here is the Rear of 5224..Go Smarter Go Together.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/adammalarke...otostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/adammalarke...otostream/

Link will be posted later to photos from todays Bus Rally at MetroCentre, some have already been uploaded.

(05 May 2013, 4:48 pm)Andreos1 NexusBus Solo SR working the W5 in Washington - never seen it working that route before. Not sure how rare it is

Not rare at all, Saltmeadows operate the W5/W6 on a night and use a Nexus Solo SR
Edited 05 May 2013, 4:51 pm by Malarkey.
Malarkey
05 May 2013, 4:50 pm #48

Odd Allocations 05/05/2013

Citylink 5344/49/55 on the X66
http://www.flickr.com/photos/adammalarke...otostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/adammalarke...otostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/adammalarke...otostream/

Highwayman 4933/38 on 96
http://www.flickr.com/photos/adammalarke...otostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/adammalarke...otostream/

Also there is new Advert been applied on a few of the Loop Wright Solars, Here is the Rear of 5224..Go Smarter Go Together.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/adammalarke...otostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/adammalarke...otostream/

Link will be posted later to photos from todays Bus Rally at MetroCentre, some have already been uploaded.


(05 May 2013, 4:48 pm)Andreos1 NexusBus Solo SR working the W5 in Washington - never seen it working that route before. Not sure how rare it is

Not rare at all, Saltmeadows operate the W5/W6 on a night and use a Nexus Solo SR

Adrian



9,596
05 May 2013, 5:18 pm #49
Red Arrows on the X88. Don't think it's that rare of a working nowadays though.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/aureolindn/...3409324439

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Adrian
05 May 2013, 5:18 pm #49

Red Arrows on the X88. Don't think it's that rare of a working nowadays though.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/aureolindn/...3409324439


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05 May 2013, 5:56 pm #50
In recent weeks I've noticed a slight difference in the SimpliCity branding on the Deptford Versas. When both routes were every 10 minutes, the livery was the same on each in which I assume allowed greater flexibility in vehicle allocation between the two routes.

Just recently though, I've noticed that Versas allocated on the 36 have "every 12 minutes" on the rear of the buses, while those on the 42 have "every 10 minutes" on the rear. On the odd occasion, they've been mixed up. I'm just wondering if anyone has an idea as to which buses have each variation? Cheers Smile

On a related note; based on Traveline, it appears the frequency of Sunday daytime 42's is decreasing from every 15 minutes to every 20 minutes instead.
NEB Admin Team
05 May 2013, 5:56 pm #50

In recent weeks I've noticed a slight difference in the SimpliCity branding on the Deptford Versas. When both routes were every 10 minutes, the livery was the same on each in which I assume allowed greater flexibility in vehicle allocation between the two routes.

Just recently though, I've noticed that Versas allocated on the 36 have "every 12 minutes" on the rear of the buses, while those on the 42 have "every 10 minutes" on the rear. On the odd occasion, they've been mixed up. I'm just wondering if anyone has an idea as to which buses have each variation? Cheers Smile

On a related note; based on Traveline, it appears the frequency of Sunday daytime 42's is decreasing from every 15 minutes to every 20 minutes instead.

Michael



19,178
05 May 2013, 6:09 pm #51
I noticed that the other day but didn't take much notice.

Seem's GNE is decreasing its operation's on a Sunday, like i said before.. hope the money is gonna be used on something else.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
05 May 2013, 6:09 pm #51

I noticed that the other day but didn't take much notice.

Seem's GNE is decreasing its operation's on a Sunday, like i said before.. hope the money is gonna be used on something else.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

05 May 2013, 6:31 pm #52
Hi, was at the bus rally at metro centre today. Resonably good display, it was good to see GNE with their flagship route double deckers there.

Didn't seem as much there today as has been in previous years. Mind u I am going back a few since I was last there.

One thing I'm never sure about is, are you allowed to get onto the buses for a look? People did seem to get on and off various buses, but they all seemed to know each other.

Also am I right in thinking that, once upon a time.. they would also give u a go at driving a bus at the far end of the coach park? Again that is a whike back now but im sure it was GNE that ran it.
thetravelman
05 May 2013, 6:31 pm #52

Hi, was at the bus rally at metro centre today. Resonably good display, it was good to see GNE with their flagship route double deckers there.

Didn't seem as much there today as has been in previous years. Mind u I am going back a few since I was last there.

One thing I'm never sure about is, are you allowed to get onto the buses for a look? People did seem to get on and off various buses, but they all seemed to know each other.

Also am I right in thinking that, once upon a time.. they would also give u a go at driving a bus at the far end of the coach park? Again that is a whike back now but im sure it was GNE that ran it.

Dan

Site Administrator

18,128
05 May 2013, 6:43 pm #53
One driver told me that you're only allowed onto a static vehicle display if it's being supervised by the driver who brought the vehicle along.

Go North East's display wasn't organised when they first arrived, and that's when me and the person I was with were opening the doors from the button on the side of the vehicle for interior/cab shots. The two demonstrators' doors were left open, but the rest had their doors closed.
I got to the Cobalt Connect and was told the above, so didn't bother with the OK Way's interior.

Members of the public were generally speaking quite appreciative that the doors were opened and such (vehicle doors and cab doors alike) because their children could then sit in the cab seat.

Don't know what the official rule is though! I don't recall being supervised when destinations were being changed in Geminis! :p
Dan
05 May 2013, 6:43 pm #53

One driver told me that you're only allowed onto a static vehicle display if it's being supervised by the driver who brought the vehicle along.

Go North East's display wasn't organised when they first arrived, and that's when me and the person I was with were opening the doors from the button on the side of the vehicle for interior/cab shots. The two demonstrators' doors were left open, but the rest had their doors closed.
I got to the Cobalt Connect and was told the above, so didn't bother with the OK Way's interior.

Members of the public were generally speaking quite appreciative that the doors were opened and such (vehicle doors and cab doors alike) because their children could then sit in the cab seat.

Don't know what the official rule is though! I don't recall being supervised when destinations were being changed in Geminis! :p

05 May 2013, 9:29 pm #54
A question I've been meaning to ask is, traditionaly majority of buses only show their final destination on the destination board however ive seen some recently that show two an example I see quite often is on the 10. Most show just "Hexham" with the usual rolling via places, whereas some i've seen show it as "Hexham and Metrocentre" i've noticed other variations on other routes also. Whats the reasoning behind this? Another example I often see, of which is probably more obvious Arriva/stagecoach Service 685, often shows either Hexham for Carlisle or Brampton for Carlisle, rather than just Carlisle. I presume on these examples you have to change bus at these points to continue.
thetravelman
05 May 2013, 9:29 pm #54

A question I've been meaning to ask is, traditionaly majority of buses only show their final destination on the destination board however ive seen some recently that show two an example I see quite often is on the 10. Most show just "Hexham" with the usual rolling via places, whereas some i've seen show it as "Hexham and Metrocentre" i've noticed other variations on other routes also. Whats the reasoning behind this? Another example I often see, of which is probably more obvious Arriva/stagecoach Service 685, often shows either Hexham for Carlisle or Brampton for Carlisle, rather than just Carlisle. I presume on these examples you have to change bus at these points to continue.

CatsFast101

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05 May 2013, 10:18 pm #55
The X7 shows 'Peterlee for Middlesbrough' between Sunderland-Peterlee when heading towards Middlesbrough. It then changes at Peterlee (usually) to 'Sunderland via Seaham, Grangetown'
And shows 'Peterlee for Sunderland' between Middlesbrough & Peterlee when heading towards Sunderland. It then changes at Peterlee to 'Middlesbrough via Wingate, Norton, Stockton'
Really don't know why as you don't change buses on the X7- it's all one service. It's also confusing for people, especially the elderly who are sometime quite confused by the display. As the 'for Middlesbrough' scrolls people often just see 'Peterlee' which then takes up more time with each passenger asking 'Do you go to such and such'!
CatsFast101
05 May 2013, 10:18 pm #55

The X7 shows 'Peterlee for Middlesbrough' between Sunderland-Peterlee when heading towards Middlesbrough. It then changes at Peterlee (usually) to 'Sunderland via Seaham, Grangetown'
And shows 'Peterlee for Sunderland' between Middlesbrough & Peterlee when heading towards Sunderland. It then changes at Peterlee to 'Middlesbrough via Wingate, Norton, Stockton'
Really don't know why as you don't change buses on the X7- it's all one service. It's also confusing for people, especially the elderly who are sometime quite confused by the display. As the 'for Middlesbrough' scrolls people often just see 'Peterlee' which then takes up more time with each passenger asking 'Do you go to such and such'!

Adrian



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05 May 2013, 10:24 pm #56
Is it not something to do with length of route, or the time of route restrictions? Doesn't the Arriva X1/X2 do something similar at Durham?

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Adrian
05 May 2013, 10:24 pm #56

Is it not something to do with length of route, or the time of route restrictions? Doesn't the Arriva X1/X2 do something similar at Durham?


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Dan

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05 May 2013, 10:31 pm #57
Always thought it was to do with tachos myself..? If the registration is split, then the destination the service holds has to be split to match accordingly.
If it's not split, the vehicle has to have a tachometer.

I'd assume newer Geminis would have them fitted though, so don't see why GNE's 10 has it in that format.
Dan
05 May 2013, 10:31 pm #57

Always thought it was to do with tachos myself..? If the registration is split, then the destination the service holds has to be split to match accordingly.
If it's not split, the vehicle has to have a tachometer.

I'd assume newer Geminis would have them fitted though, so don't see why GNE's 10 has it in that format.

Kuyoyo



6,856
05 May 2013, 10:32 pm #58
(05 May 2013, 9:29 pm)thetravelman A question I've been meaning to ask is, traditionaly majority of buses only show their final destination on the destination board however ive seen some recently that show two an example I see quite often is on the 10. Most show just "Hexham" with the usual rolling via places, whereas some i've seen show it as "Hexham and Metrocentre" i've noticed other variations on other routes also. Whats the reasoning behind this? Another example I often see, of which is probably more obvious Arriva/stagecoach Service 685, often shows either Hexham for Carlisle or Brampton for Carlisle, rather than just Carlisle. I presume on these examples you have to change bus at these points to continue.

The 'for' display is merely part of the way the route is set up, as any route that travels over 50km has to be operated by buses fitted with tachographs (for example, the X9/X10 are one such route) and are restricted to European drivers hours (4hr 30mins maximum before a break). However, companies have found a way round this by registring routes in seperate secitions to avoid the need for tachographs (X7, for example, is split at Peterlee). This is shown on the display by showing the split point then the ultimate destination on the lower line.

(05 May 2013, 10:18 pm)CatsFast101 The X7 shows 'Peterlee for Middlesbrough' between Sunderland-Peterlee when heading towards Middlesbrough. It then changes at Peterlee (usually) to 'Sunderland via Seaham, Grangetown'
And shows 'Peterlee for Sunderland' between Middlesbrough & Peterlee when heading towards Sunderland. It then changes at Peterlee to 'Middlesbrough via Wingate, Norton, Stockton'
Really don't know why as you don't change buses on the X7- it's all one service. It's also confusing for people, especially the elderly who are sometime quite confused by the display. As the 'for Middlesbrough' scrolls people often just see 'Peterlee' which then takes up more time with each passenger asking 'Do you go to such and such'!

There's only one of the 4 B10BLEs that has the 'for' scroll, the others show it static. As mentioned about, it's all about the rules for split services, shows the split destination while also showing the through connection.

(05 May 2013, 10:31 pm)Daniel Always thought it was to do with tachos myself..? If the registration is split, then the destination the service holds has to be split to match accordingly.
If it's not split, the vehicle has to have a tachometer.

I'd assume newer Geminis would have them fitted though, so don't see why GNE's 10 has it in that format.

Only the X9/X10 Geminis have tachographs due to the X9/X10 being the only GNE route that needs them. The 10 doesn't, I believe that screen is just to show it goes to the Metrocentre direct, hence why it has two Newcastle screens as well.
Edited 05 May 2013, 10:35 pm by Kuyoyo.
Kuyoyo
05 May 2013, 10:32 pm #58

(05 May 2013, 9:29 pm)thetravelman A question I've been meaning to ask is, traditionaly majority of buses only show their final destination on the destination board however ive seen some recently that show two an example I see quite often is on the 10. Most show just "Hexham" with the usual rolling via places, whereas some i've seen show it as "Hexham and Metrocentre" i've noticed other variations on other routes also. Whats the reasoning behind this? Another example I often see, of which is probably more obvious Arriva/stagecoach Service 685, often shows either Hexham for Carlisle or Brampton for Carlisle, rather than just Carlisle. I presume on these examples you have to change bus at these points to continue.

The 'for' display is merely part of the way the route is set up, as any route that travels over 50km has to be operated by buses fitted with tachographs (for example, the X9/X10 are one such route) and are restricted to European drivers hours (4hr 30mins maximum before a break). However, companies have found a way round this by registring routes in seperate secitions to avoid the need for tachographs (X7, for example, is split at Peterlee). This is shown on the display by showing the split point then the ultimate destination on the lower line.

(05 May 2013, 10:18 pm)CatsFast101 The X7 shows 'Peterlee for Middlesbrough' between Sunderland-Peterlee when heading towards Middlesbrough. It then changes at Peterlee (usually) to 'Sunderland via Seaham, Grangetown'
And shows 'Peterlee for Sunderland' between Middlesbrough & Peterlee when heading towards Sunderland. It then changes at Peterlee to 'Middlesbrough via Wingate, Norton, Stockton'
Really don't know why as you don't change buses on the X7- it's all one service. It's also confusing for people, especially the elderly who are sometime quite confused by the display. As the 'for Middlesbrough' scrolls people often just see 'Peterlee' which then takes up more time with each passenger asking 'Do you go to such and such'!

There's only one of the 4 B10BLEs that has the 'for' scroll, the others show it static. As mentioned about, it's all about the rules for split services, shows the split destination while also showing the through connection.

(05 May 2013, 10:31 pm)Daniel Always thought it was to do with tachos myself..? If the registration is split, then the destination the service holds has to be split to match accordingly.
If it's not split, the vehicle has to have a tachometer.

I'd assume newer Geminis would have them fitted though, so don't see why GNE's 10 has it in that format.

Only the X9/X10 Geminis have tachographs due to the X9/X10 being the only GNE route that needs them. The 10 doesn't, I believe that screen is just to show it goes to the Metrocentre direct, hence why it has two Newcastle screens as well.

BJ10VUS



850
06 May 2013, 7:35 am #59
'Citylink' 58 has a similar display which shows 'Newcastle and Heworth'. It's only shown on journeys which are returning from Hadrian Park.

If I can recall correctly, on the rigid Citaros they also used to have a 'City Centre and Hadrian Park' display, but I think this was removed.
BJ10VUS
06 May 2013, 7:35 am #59

'Citylink' 58 has a similar display which shows 'Newcastle and Heworth'. It's only shown on journeys which are returning from Hadrian Park.

If I can recall correctly, on the rigid Citaros they also used to have a 'City Centre and Hadrian Park' display, but I think this was removed.

2bagstew



204
06 May 2013, 8:33 am #60
(05 May 2013, 10:32 pm)Kuyoyo
(05 May 2013, 9:29 pm)thetravelman A question I've been meaning to ask is, traditionaly majority of buses only show their final destination on the destination board however ive seen some recently that show two an example I see quite often is on the 10. Most show just "Hexham" with the usual rolling via places, whereas some i've seen show it as "Hexham and Metrocentre" i've noticed other variations on other routes also. Whats the reasoning behind this? Another example I often see, of which is probably more obvious Arriva/stagecoach Service 685, often shows either Hexham for Carlisle or Brampton for Carlisle, rather than just Carlisle. I presume on these examples you have to change bus at these points to continue.

The 'for' display is merely part of the way the route is set up, as any route that travels over 50km has to be operated by buses fitted with tachographs (for example, the X9/X10 are one such route) and are restricted to European drivers hours (4hr 30mins maximum before a break). However, companies have found a way round this by registring routes in seperate secitions to avoid the need for tachographs (X7, for example, is split at Peterlee). This is shown on the display by showing the split point then the ultimate destination on the lower line.

(05 May 2013, 10:18 pm)CatsFast101 The X7 shows 'Peterlee for Middlesbrough' between Sunderland-Peterlee when heading towards Middlesbrough. It then changes at Peterlee (usually) to 'Sunderland via Seaham, Grangetown'
And shows 'Peterlee for Sunderland' between Middlesbrough & Peterlee when heading towards Sunderland. It then changes at Peterlee to 'Middlesbrough via Wingate, Norton, Stockton'
Really don't know why as you don't change buses on the X7- it's all one service. It's also confusing for people, especially the elderly who are sometime quite confused by the display. As the 'for Middlesbrough' scrolls people often just see 'Peterlee' which then takes up more time with each passenger asking 'Do you go to such and such'!

There's only one of the 4 B10BLEs that has the 'for' scroll, the others show it static. As mentioned about, it's all about the rules for split services, shows the split destination while also showing the through connection.

(05 May 2013, 10:31 pm)Daniel Always thought it was to do with tachos myself..? If the registration is split, then the destination the service holds has to be split to match accordingly.
If it's not split, the vehicle has to have a tachometer.

I'd assume newer Geminis would have them fitted though, so don't see why GNE's 10 has it in that format.

Only the X9/X10 Geminis have tachographs due to the X9/X10 being the only GNE route that needs them. The 10 doesn't, I believe that screen is just to show it goes to the Metrocentre direct, hence why it has two Newcastle screens as well.

Hi is this to do with the 50K rule where over that you need a Tachograph, i see Arriva there routes generally take around 1h 30mins from start to finish, i.e the 22 Durham to Hartlepool it takes 1h 25m.
2bagstew
06 May 2013, 8:33 am #60

(05 May 2013, 10:32 pm)Kuyoyo
(05 May 2013, 9:29 pm)thetravelman A question I've been meaning to ask is, traditionaly majority of buses only show their final destination on the destination board however ive seen some recently that show two an example I see quite often is on the 10. Most show just "Hexham" with the usual rolling via places, whereas some i've seen show it as "Hexham and Metrocentre" i've noticed other variations on other routes also. Whats the reasoning behind this? Another example I often see, of which is probably more obvious Arriva/stagecoach Service 685, often shows either Hexham for Carlisle or Brampton for Carlisle, rather than just Carlisle. I presume on these examples you have to change bus at these points to continue.

The 'for' display is merely part of the way the route is set up, as any route that travels over 50km has to be operated by buses fitted with tachographs (for example, the X9/X10 are one such route) and are restricted to European drivers hours (4hr 30mins maximum before a break). However, companies have found a way round this by registring routes in seperate secitions to avoid the need for tachographs (X7, for example, is split at Peterlee). This is shown on the display by showing the split point then the ultimate destination on the lower line.

(05 May 2013, 10:18 pm)CatsFast101 The X7 shows 'Peterlee for Middlesbrough' between Sunderland-Peterlee when heading towards Middlesbrough. It then changes at Peterlee (usually) to 'Sunderland via Seaham, Grangetown'
And shows 'Peterlee for Sunderland' between Middlesbrough & Peterlee when heading towards Sunderland. It then changes at Peterlee to 'Middlesbrough via Wingate, Norton, Stockton'
Really don't know why as you don't change buses on the X7- it's all one service. It's also confusing for people, especially the elderly who are sometime quite confused by the display. As the 'for Middlesbrough' scrolls people often just see 'Peterlee' which then takes up more time with each passenger asking 'Do you go to such and such'!

There's only one of the 4 B10BLEs that has the 'for' scroll, the others show it static. As mentioned about, it's all about the rules for split services, shows the split destination while also showing the through connection.

(05 May 2013, 10:31 pm)Daniel Always thought it was to do with tachos myself..? If the registration is split, then the destination the service holds has to be split to match accordingly.
If it's not split, the vehicle has to have a tachometer.

I'd assume newer Geminis would have them fitted though, so don't see why GNE's 10 has it in that format.

Only the X9/X10 Geminis have tachographs due to the X9/X10 being the only GNE route that needs them. The 10 doesn't, I believe that screen is just to show it goes to the Metrocentre direct, hence why it has two Newcastle screens as well.

Hi is this to do with the 50K rule where over that you need a Tachograph, i see Arriva there routes generally take around 1h 30mins from start to finish, i.e the 22 Durham to Hartlepool it takes 1h 25m.

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