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RE: Go North East
(03 May 2013, 7:44 am)Daniel wrote I hope they do get repainted and the Washington Street Shuttle brand isn't green...

I'd like to see the Washington Street Shuttle brand changed in favour of painting the buses up in Wear Buses livery. I'd guess that's pretty unlikely to happen though.
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RE: Go North East
(03 May 2013, 2:46 pm)Andreos1 wrote Can't see anything on their website or any other publicity to add to it, but GNE seem to have a canny offer on Tuesday http://bdaily.co.uk/creative/02-05-2013/...-birthday/.

(03 May 2013, 3:58 pm)Daniel wrote
(03 May 2013, 2:46 pm)Andreos1 wrote Can't see anything on their website or any other publicity to add to it, but GNE seem to have a canny offer on Tuesday http://bdaily.co.uk/creative/02-05-2013/...-birthday/.

Information is to go on the website by next week.

5p fare? Clearly a cunning plan to increase the drivers 5p float for the next day!

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RE: Go North East
(Today 06:18 PM) gtomlinson
(Today 03:46 PM)Andreos1 Wrote:
Can't see anything on their website or any other publicity to add to it, but GNE seem to have a canny offer on Tuesday http://bdaily.co.uk/creative/02-05-2013/...birthday/.

(Today 04:58 PM)Daniel Wrote:
(Today 03:46 PM)Andreos1 Wrote:
Can't see anything on their website or any other publicity to add to it, but GNE seem to have a canny offer on Tuesday http://bdaily.co.uk/creative/02-05-2013/...birthday/.

Information is to go on the website by next week.

5p fare? Clearly a cunning plan to increase the drivers 5p float for the next day!


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Eeh you cynic you haha
RE: Go North East
(03 May 2013, 2:46 pm)Andreos1 wrote Can't see anything on their website or any other publicity to add to it, but GNE seem to have a canny offer on Tuesday http://bdaily.co.uk/creative/02-05-2013/...-birthday/.

I noticed it says in the article that there's "a summer party for its staff and stakeholders held at Beamish museum". In Business, a Stakeholder is defined as anyone who is affected or interested in the decisions of a business. Therefore, as we are then classed as stakeholders, does that mean we're invited as well?
RE: Go North East
Just the 700/701 timetable change for July on VOSA today

PB0002400/450 - GO NORTHERN LTD T/A GO NORTH EAST, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted: Operating between Sunderland, Park Lane Interchange and Sunderland, Park Lane Interchange given service number 700/701 Sunderland City Shuttle effective from 01-Jul-2013. To amend Timetable.

Route changes, cant renember what to but im sure it includes Roker, it should extend to Seaburn also
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RE: Go North East
It is a cunning plan by GNE haha, Last week I paid £3.10 for a Washington Day Saver in 5p's I had saved up. That's 62 5p's. I was expecting the Driver to give me some abuse. He did the complete opposite and smiled and thanked me for such a kind donation as had zero 5p's in his float.

As for the Brandings the only problem is with the PVR for the amount of buses for each branding. If one or two are in the depot getting repaired then obviously you are going to see a Northern branded bus on the Service or another branded bus. e.g. Washington Street Shuttle on South Tyne 88 which is a daily occurrence due reliability issues with the Cadets on that service. It's the same with the Citylink Artics and Wheyaye50 as other examples. The other thing is there is enough Northern Spares to accommodate for Branded Buses which are off the road, which is another reason why we Branded Buses on other Branded Services.

Obviously Marketing of those brands are also key as mentioned in other posts. But think from i've read everyone has missed the point i've made above.
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RE: Go North East
Think I've got myself some special night shots planned - even though I believe I'm going to 2 out of 3 of those concerts? Wink

Here's hoping I can get on that 78 home though... :p
RE: Go North East
(03 May 2013, 11:38 pm)Brandon wrote Revised timetables for Prince Bishops, Laser, 61, M1, 923 & X1 have appeared online at Durham County Council -

http://durham.pindarcreative.co.uk/announcements.asp

It seems that the frequency of Sunday daytime 61's is being reduced to half-hourly.

Also online are special timetables for routes serving Stadium of Light on concert nights.

Shame about the 61 but the money could be getting used else where,i don't know the number of passengers on the 61 on a Sunday.

the other timetables uploaded, can't spot the changes, maybe its just small timing's.
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RE: Go North East
(04 May 2013, 11:12 am)citaro5284 wrote
(04 May 2013, 10:58 am)gtomlinson wrote The excellent SkyScraperCity forum has a thread following the Go North East bus depot at the Metrocentre

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1517587

(note - the thread is architecture based but has lots of photos and things really are shooting up)

They are currently 1 week ahead of schedule

Does anyone know when its supposed to be opened?
RE: Go North East
(04 May 2013, 1:40 pm)Adam wrote
(04 May 2013, 11:12 am)citaro5284 wrote
(04 May 2013, 10:58 am)gtomlinson wrote The excellent SkyScraperCity forum has a thread following the Go North East bus depot at the Metrocentre

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1517587

(note - the thread is architecture based but has lots of photos and things really are shooting up)

They are currently 1 week ahead of schedule

Does anyone know when its supposed to be opened?

January 2014
RE: Odd Allocations
Odd Allocations 05/05/2013

Citylink 5344/49/55 on the X66
http://www.flickr.com/photos/adammalarke...otostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/adammalarke...otostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/adammalarke...otostream/

Highwayman 4933/38 on 96
http://www.flickr.com/photos/adammalarke...otostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/adammalarke...otostream/

Also there is new Advert been applied on a few of the Loop Wright Solars, Here is the Rear of 5224..Go Smarter Go Together.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/adammalarke...otostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/adammalarke...otostream/

Link will be posted later to photos from todays Bus Rally at MetroCentre, some have already been uploaded.

(05 May 2013, 4:48 pm)Andreos1 wrote NexusBus Solo SR working the W5 in Washington - never seen it working that route before. Not sure how rare it is

Not rare at all, Saltmeadows operate the W5/W6 on a night and use a Nexus Solo SR
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RE: Go North East
In recent weeks I've noticed a slight difference in the SimpliCity branding on the Deptford Versas. When both routes were every 10 minutes, the livery was the same on each in which I assume allowed greater flexibility in vehicle allocation between the two routes.

Just recently though, I've noticed that Versas allocated on the 36 have "every 12 minutes" on the rear of the buses, while those on the 42 have "every 10 minutes" on the rear. On the odd occasion, they've been mixed up. I'm just wondering if anyone has an idea as to which buses have each variation? Cheers Smile

On a related note; based on Traveline, it appears the frequency of Sunday daytime 42's is decreasing from every 15 minutes to every 20 minutes instead.
RE: Go North East
I noticed that the other day but didn't take much notice.

Seem's GNE is decreasing its operation's on a Sunday, like i said before.. hope the money is gonna be used on something else.
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RE: Go North East
Hi, was at the bus rally at metro centre today. Resonably good display, it was good to see GNE with their flagship route double deckers there.

Didn't seem as much there today as has been in previous years. Mind u I am going back a few since I was last there.

One thing I'm never sure about is, are you allowed to get onto the buses for a look? People did seem to get on and off various buses, but they all seemed to know each other.

Also am I right in thinking that, once upon a time.. they would also give u a go at driving a bus at the far end of the coach park? Again that is a whike back now but im sure it was GNE that ran it.
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RE: Go North East
One driver told me that you're only allowed onto a static vehicle display if it's being supervised by the driver who brought the vehicle along.

Go North East's display wasn't organised when they first arrived, and that's when me and the person I was with were opening the doors from the button on the side of the vehicle for interior/cab shots. The two demonstrators' doors were left open, but the rest had their doors closed.
I got to the Cobalt Connect and was told the above, so didn't bother with the OK Way's interior.

Members of the public were generally speaking quite appreciative that the doors were opened and such (vehicle doors and cab doors alike) because their children could then sit in the cab seat.

Don't know what the official rule is though! I don't recall being supervised when destinations were being changed in Geminis! :p
RE: Go North East
A question I've been meaning to ask is, traditionaly majority of buses only show their final destination on the destination board however ive seen some recently that show two an example I see quite often is on the 10. Most show just "Hexham" with the usual rolling via places, whereas some i've seen show it as "Hexham and Metrocentre" i've noticed other variations on other routes also. Whats the reasoning behind this? Another example I often see, of which is probably more obvious Arriva/stagecoach Service 685, often shows either Hexham for Carlisle or Brampton for Carlisle, rather than just Carlisle. I presume on these examples you have to change bus at these points to continue.
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RE: Go North East
The X7 shows 'Peterlee for Middlesbrough' between Sunderland-Peterlee when heading towards Middlesbrough. It then changes at Peterlee (usually) to 'Sunderland via Seaham, Grangetown'
And shows 'Peterlee for Sunderland' between Middlesbrough & Peterlee when heading towards Sunderland. It then changes at Peterlee to 'Middlesbrough via Wingate, Norton, Stockton'
Really don't know why as you don't change buses on the X7- it's all one service. It's also confusing for people, especially the elderly who are sometime quite confused by the display. As the 'for Middlesbrough' scrolls people often just see 'Peterlee' which then takes up more time with each passenger asking 'Do you go to such and such'!
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RE: Go North East
Always thought it was to do with tachos myself..? If the registration is split, then the destination the service holds has to be split to match accordingly.
If it's not split, the vehicle has to have a tachometer.

I'd assume newer Geminis would have them fitted though, so don't see why GNE's 10 has it in that format.
RE: Go North East
(05 May 2013, 9:29 pm)thetravelman wrote A question I've been meaning to ask is, traditionaly majority of buses only show their final destination on the destination board however ive seen some recently that show two an example I see quite often is on the 10. Most show just "Hexham" with the usual rolling via places, whereas some i've seen show it as "Hexham and Metrocentre" i've noticed other variations on other routes also. Whats the reasoning behind this? Another example I often see, of which is probably more obvious Arriva/stagecoach Service 685, often shows either Hexham for Carlisle or Brampton for Carlisle, rather than just Carlisle. I presume on these examples you have to change bus at these points to continue.

The 'for' display is merely part of the way the route is set up, as any route that travels over 50km has to be operated by buses fitted with tachographs (for example, the X9/X10 are one such route) and are restricted to European drivers hours (4hr 30mins maximum before a break). However, companies have found a way round this by registring routes in seperate secitions to avoid the need for tachographs (X7, for example, is split at Peterlee). This is shown on the display by showing the split point then the ultimate destination on the lower line.

(05 May 2013, 10:18 pm)CatsFast101 wrote The X7 shows 'Peterlee for Middlesbrough' between Sunderland-Peterlee when heading towards Middlesbrough. It then changes at Peterlee (usually) to 'Sunderland via Seaham, Grangetown'
And shows 'Peterlee for Sunderland' between Middlesbrough & Peterlee when heading towards Sunderland. It then changes at Peterlee to 'Middlesbrough via Wingate, Norton, Stockton'
Really don't know why as you don't change buses on the X7- it's all one service. It's also confusing for people, especially the elderly who are sometime quite confused by the display. As the 'for Middlesbrough' scrolls people often just see 'Peterlee' which then takes up more time with each passenger asking 'Do you go to such and such'!

There's only one of the 4 B10BLEs that has the 'for' scroll, the others show it static. As mentioned about, it's all about the rules for split services, shows the split destination while also showing the through connection.

(05 May 2013, 10:31 pm)Daniel wrote Always thought it was to do with tachos myself..? If the registration is split, then the destination the service holds has to be split to match accordingly.
If it's not split, the vehicle has to have a tachometer.

I'd assume newer Geminis would have them fitted though, so don't see why GNE's 10 has it in that format.

Only the X9/X10 Geminis have tachographs due to the X9/X10 being the only GNE route that needs them. The 10 doesn't, I believe that screen is just to show it goes to the Metrocentre direct, hence why it has two Newcastle screens as well.
RE: Go North East
'Citylink' 58 has a similar display which shows 'Newcastle and Heworth'. It's only shown on journeys which are returning from Hadrian Park.

If I can recall correctly, on the rigid Citaros they also used to have a 'City Centre and Hadrian Park' display, but I think this was removed.
RE: Go North East
(05 May 2013, 10:32 pm)Kuyoyo wrote
(05 May 2013, 9:29 pm)thetravelman wrote A question I've been meaning to ask is, traditionaly majority of buses only show their final destination on the destination board however ive seen some recently that show two an example I see quite often is on the 10. Most show just "Hexham" with the usual rolling via places, whereas some i've seen show it as "Hexham and Metrocentre" i've noticed other variations on other routes also. Whats the reasoning behind this? Another example I often see, of which is probably more obvious Arriva/stagecoach Service 685, often shows either Hexham for Carlisle or Brampton for Carlisle, rather than just Carlisle. I presume on these examples you have to change bus at these points to continue.

The 'for' display is merely part of the way the route is set up, as any route that travels over 50km has to be operated by buses fitted with tachographs (for example, the X9/X10 are one such route) and are restricted to European drivers hours (4hr 30mins maximum before a break). However, companies have found a way round this by registring routes in seperate secitions to avoid the need for tachographs (X7, for example, is split at Peterlee). This is shown on the display by showing the split point then the ultimate destination on the lower line.

(05 May 2013, 10:18 pm)CatsFast101 wrote The X7 shows 'Peterlee for Middlesbrough' between Sunderland-Peterlee when heading towards Middlesbrough. It then changes at Peterlee (usually) to 'Sunderland via Seaham, Grangetown'
And shows 'Peterlee for Sunderland' between Middlesbrough & Peterlee when heading towards Sunderland. It then changes at Peterlee to 'Middlesbrough via Wingate, Norton, Stockton'
Really don't know why as you don't change buses on the X7- it's all one service. It's also confusing for people, especially the elderly who are sometime quite confused by the display. As the 'for Middlesbrough' scrolls people often just see 'Peterlee' which then takes up more time with each passenger asking 'Do you go to such and such'!

There's only one of the 4 B10BLEs that has the 'for' scroll, the others show it static. As mentioned about, it's all about the rules for split services, shows the split destination while also showing the through connection.

(05 May 2013, 10:31 pm)Daniel wrote Always thought it was to do with tachos myself..? If the registration is split, then the destination the service holds has to be split to match accordingly.
If it's not split, the vehicle has to have a tachometer.

I'd assume newer Geminis would have them fitted though, so don't see why GNE's 10 has it in that format.

Only the X9/X10 Geminis have tachographs due to the X9/X10 being the only GNE route that needs them. The 10 doesn't, I believe that screen is just to show it goes to the Metrocentre direct, hence why it has two Newcastle screens as well.

Hi is this to do with the 50K rule where over that you need a Tachograph, i see Arriva there routes generally take around 1h 30mins from start to finish, i.e the 22 Durham to Hartlepool it takes 1h 25m.