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Multi21



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21 Jun 2017, 10:31 pm #61
(21 Jun 2017, 1:37 pm)Cock Robin Wonder why they haven't found a way to put advert boards on the nearside of Temsas?

Give it time. Trust me! 

As for advertisers getting priority, why shouldn't they? Having the brand plastered on every inch of the bus isn't going to generate any more money. Most of the adverts on the buses at the minute are Arrivas own on the Nearside and Offside (yes due to the design of the buses emergency exits very few buses have these now). The rear ones are mostly providing awareness for a cancer charity HONK. So why shouldn't they have advert boards over branding? 

The 306 branding has world's biggest MAX sign on the other side which you have failed to mention. It's not like it's on the front, side, back,  probably plastered with branding on the inside too and the fact IT'S A DIFFERENT COLOUR. I think anymore max plugging and arriva will be buying the copyright for the word!
Multi21
21 Jun 2017, 10:31 pm #61

(21 Jun 2017, 1:37 pm)Cock Robin Wonder why they haven't found a way to put advert boards on the nearside of Temsas?

Give it time. Trust me! 

As for advertisers getting priority, why shouldn't they? Having the brand plastered on every inch of the bus isn't going to generate any more money. Most of the adverts on the buses at the minute are Arrivas own on the Nearside and Offside (yes due to the design of the buses emergency exits very few buses have these now). The rear ones are mostly providing awareness for a cancer charity HONK. So why shouldn't they have advert boards over branding? 

The 306 branding has world's biggest MAX sign on the other side which you have failed to mention. It's not like it's on the front, side, back,  probably plastered with branding on the inside too and the fact IT'S A DIFFERENT COLOUR. I think anymore max plugging and arriva will be buying the copyright for the word!

Cock Robin



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22 Jun 2017, 3:48 pm #62
I think it's absolutely absurd to have advert boards over the branding.

They've had 7 years to do something with the Temsas and haven't done anything yet so they can't be that anxious for advertising space - and as you say, Arriva's own adverts are in a lot of the boards.
Cock Robin
22 Jun 2017, 3:48 pm #62

I think it's absolutely absurd to have advert boards over the branding.

They've had 7 years to do something with the Temsas and haven't done anything yet so they can't be that anxious for advertising space - and as you say, Arriva's own adverts are in a lot of the boards.

Ambassador



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22 Jun 2017, 10:58 pm #63
(22 Jun 2017, 3:48 pm)Cock Robin I think it's absolutely absurd to have advert boards over the branding.

They've had 7 years to do something with the Temsas and haven't done anything yet so they can't be that anxious for advertising space -  and as you say, Arriva's own adverts are in a lot of the boards.

They all do it. GNE has rear boards that cover the Coaster branding.

Wistfully stuck in the 90s
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22 Jun 2017, 10:58 pm #63

(22 Jun 2017, 3:48 pm)Cock Robin I think it's absolutely absurd to have advert boards over the branding.

They've had 7 years to do something with the Temsas and haven't done anything yet so they can't be that anxious for advertising space -  and as you say, Arriva's own adverts are in a lot of the boards.

They all do it. GNE has rear boards that cover the Coaster branding.


Wistfully stuck in the 90s

22 Jun 2017, 11:53 pm #64
They wont be replacing the headrests where the old branding is, for the near future at least.
omnicity4659
22 Jun 2017, 11:53 pm #64

They wont be replacing the headrests where the old branding is, for the near future at least.

Simmy



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23 Jun 2017, 1:27 am #65
(22 Jun 2017, 11:53 pm)omnicity4659 They wont be replacing the headrests where the old branding is, for the near future at least.

"Welcome aboard this Arriva Premium service 22 to Newcastle. please disregard any 'Sapphire' branding. Next stop is Regent Centre" Tongue
Edited 23 Jun 2017, 1:27 am by Simmy.
Simmy
23 Jun 2017, 1:27 am #65

(22 Jun 2017, 11:53 pm)omnicity4659 They wont be replacing the headrests where the old branding is, for the near future at least.

"Welcome aboard this Arriva Premium service 22 to Newcastle. please disregard any 'Sapphire' branding. Next stop is Regent Centre" Tongue

OW1762



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23 Jun 2017, 5:30 am #66
(21 Jun 2017, 7:01 pm)Jimmi Think the plan is still for the Optare Tempo's coming from Arriva Yorkshire will go on the 64 whilst the E200's will go on the 56/57/57A/86 circuit.

Sounds good do you know how old the tempos are?
OW1762
23 Jun 2017, 5:30 am #66

(21 Jun 2017, 7:01 pm)Jimmi Think the plan is still for the Optare Tempo's coming from Arriva Yorkshire will go on the 64 whilst the E200's will go on the 56/57/57A/86 circuit.

Sounds good do you know how old the tempos are?

23 Jun 2017, 11:16 am #67
(22 Jun 2017, 3:48 pm)Cock Robin I think it's absolutely absurd to have advert boards over the branding.

They've had 7 years to do something with the Temsas and haven't done anything yet so they can't be that anxious for advertising space -  and as you say, Arriva's own adverts are in a lot of the boards.

I think it was Alex Hornby in one of the magazines commented about advertising on buses.  The advertising brings in minimal revenue to companies, but if that space is so valuable to outside companies, surely it's valuable to the company itself?  Why not use the space to promote your service, fare information etc.  The one which is bugging me atm is the Shell V-Power adverts and Arnold Clark cars?  You don't see Asda trucks advertising Morrisons, so why are buses advertising cars?  They should be encouraging people onto the buses rather than getting a new car.  Rant over Smile
palatine3833
23 Jun 2017, 11:16 am #67

(22 Jun 2017, 3:48 pm)Cock Robin I think it's absolutely absurd to have advert boards over the branding.

They've had 7 years to do something with the Temsas and haven't done anything yet so they can't be that anxious for advertising space -  and as you say, Arriva's own adverts are in a lot of the boards.

I think it was Alex Hornby in one of the magazines commented about advertising on buses.  The advertising brings in minimal revenue to companies, but if that space is so valuable to outside companies, surely it's valuable to the company itself?  Why not use the space to promote your service, fare information etc.  The one which is bugging me atm is the Shell V-Power adverts and Arnold Clark cars?  You don't see Asda trucks advertising Morrisons, so why are buses advertising cars?  They should be encouraging people onto the buses rather than getting a new car.  Rant over Smile

Cock Robin



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23 Jun 2017, 1:25 pm #68
(23 Jun 2017, 11:16 am)palatine3833 I think it was Alex Hornby in one of the magazines commented about advertising on buses.  The advertising brings in minimal revenue to companies, but if that space is so valuable to outside companies, surely it's valuable to the company itself?  Why not use the space to promote your service, fare information etc.  The one which is bugging me atm is the Shell V-Power adverts and Arnold Clark cars?  You don't see Asda trucks advertising Morrisons, so why are buses advertising cars?  They should be encouraging people onto the buses rather than getting a new car.  Rant over Smile

Well said.

And at the very least if you're going to have advertising on branded vehicles at least design the livery to accommodate it. That Darlington Pulsar with half the Max covered looks ridiculous.
Cock Robin
23 Jun 2017, 1:25 pm #68

(23 Jun 2017, 11:16 am)palatine3833 I think it was Alex Hornby in one of the magazines commented about advertising on buses.  The advertising brings in minimal revenue to companies, but if that space is so valuable to outside companies, surely it's valuable to the company itself?  Why not use the space to promote your service, fare information etc.  The one which is bugging me atm is the Shell V-Power adverts and Arnold Clark cars?  You don't see Asda trucks advertising Morrisons, so why are buses advertising cars?  They should be encouraging people onto the buses rather than getting a new car.  Rant over Smile

Well said.

And at the very least if you're going to have advertising on branded vehicles at least design the livery to accommodate it. That Darlington Pulsar with half the Max covered looks ridiculous.

OW1762



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23 Jun 2017, 6:30 pm #69
(23 Jun 2017, 1:25 pm)Cock Robin Well said.

And at the very least if you're going to have advertising on branded vehicles at least design the livery to accommodate it. That Darlington Pulsar with half the Max covered looks ridiculous.

I think the adverts should only be on the non branded buses, go north east seem to be putting fewer and fewer ads on there buses hopefully arriva will follow.
OW1762
23 Jun 2017, 6:30 pm #69

(23 Jun 2017, 1:25 pm)Cock Robin Well said.

And at the very least if you're going to have advertising on branded vehicles at least design the livery to accommodate it. That Darlington Pulsar with half the Max covered looks ridiculous.

I think the adverts should only be on the non branded buses, go north east seem to be putting fewer and fewer ads on there buses hopefully arriva will follow.

Kuyoyo



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24 Jun 2017, 12:07 pm #70
Jesmond's Streetlites have been partly debranded.
Kuyoyo
24 Jun 2017, 12:07 pm #70

Jesmond's Streetlites have been partly debranded.

27 Jun 2017, 11:47 am #71
https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/ctbw/

Catch the Bus Week event at Newcastle upon Tyne, Northumberland Street on Tuesday 4th July (10am - 5pm).
Edited 27 Jun 2017, 11:47 am by omnicity4659.
omnicity4659
27 Jun 2017, 11:47 am #71

https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/ctbw/

Catch the Bus Week event at Newcastle upon Tyne, Northumberland Street on Tuesday 4th July (10am - 5pm).

mb134



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27 Jun 2017, 5:16 pm #72
There was an E400 MMC in Ashington depot when I passed earlier...
mb134
27 Jun 2017, 5:16 pm #72

There was an E400 MMC in Ashington depot when I passed earlier...

28 Jun 2017, 8:31 am #73
(27 Jun 2017, 5:16 pm)mb134 There was an E400 MMC in Ashington depot when I passed earlier...

YX17NNO. 7541-52 IIRC.


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28 Jun 2017, 8:31 am #73

(27 Jun 2017, 5:16 pm)mb134 There was an E400 MMC in Ashington depot when I passed earlier...

YX17NNO. 7541-52 IIRC.



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Dan

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28 Jun 2017, 8:36 am #74
(28 Jun 2017, 8:31 am)RBZ 5459 YX17NNO. 7541-52 IIRC.

Logical to continue the numbers on from the last batch of Enviro400s, but they're not leaving themselves much wiggle-room for future orders in that fleet number series!
Dan
28 Jun 2017, 8:36 am #74

(28 Jun 2017, 8:31 am)RBZ 5459 YX17NNO. 7541-52 IIRC.

Logical to continue the numbers on from the last batch of Enviro400s, but they're not leaving themselves much wiggle-room for future orders in that fleet number series!

28 Jun 2017, 8:49 am #75
(28 Jun 2017, 8:36 am)Dan Logical to continue the numbers on from the last batch of Enviro400s, but they're not leaving themselves much wiggle-room for future orders in that fleet number series!

Yeah, always found the Arriva numbering a bit too tidy for wiggle-room. Be a case of leaping the VDLs probably into the 77**s. *twitch* !

On another note, believe the first couple of Yorkshire Tempos are due imminently for storage/repaint.
Edited 28 Jun 2017, 9:00 am by RBZ 5459.


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28 Jun 2017, 8:49 am #75

(28 Jun 2017, 8:36 am)Dan Logical to continue the numbers on from the last batch of Enviro400s, but they're not leaving themselves much wiggle-room for future orders in that fleet number series!

Yeah, always found the Arriva numbering a bit too tidy for wiggle-room. Be a case of leaping the VDLs probably into the 77**s. *twitch* !

On another note, believe the first couple of Yorkshire Tempos are due imminently for storage/repaint.



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mb134



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28 Jun 2017, 8:58 am #76
(28 Jun 2017, 8:49 am)RBZ 5459 Yeah, always found the Arriva numbering a bit too tidy for wiggle-room. Be a case of leaping the VDLs probably into the 77**s. *twitch* !

On another note, believe the first couple of Yorkshire Tempos are due imminently for storage/repaint.

Potentially a case of Arriva not anticipating any more E400s when they started to get the VDLs?
mb134
28 Jun 2017, 8:58 am #76

(28 Jun 2017, 8:49 am)RBZ 5459 Yeah, always found the Arriva numbering a bit too tidy for wiggle-room. Be a case of leaping the VDLs probably into the 77**s. *twitch* !

On another note, believe the first couple of Yorkshire Tempos are due imminently for storage/repaint.

Potentially a case of Arriva not anticipating any more E400s when they started to get the VDLs?

28 Jun 2017, 9:08 am #77
(28 Jun 2017, 8:58 am)mb134 Potentially a case of Arriva not anticipating any more E400s when they started to get the VDLs?

Certainly a contender with heavy Wright investment. Suppose it was easy to pencil in the E400 at 75** and the VDLs at 76**. 
With the ex-Yorkshire Tempos, their Yorkshire numbering (1300-1312) sort of fit in to the NE system... before the Belmont Darts. Even with the addition of the Tiger ones if that ever to happen.
Edited 28 Jun 2017, 9:08 am by RBZ 5459.


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28 Jun 2017, 9:08 am #77

(28 Jun 2017, 8:58 am)mb134 Potentially a case of Arriva not anticipating any more E400s when they started to get the VDLs?

Certainly a contender with heavy Wright investment. Suppose it was easy to pencil in the E400 at 75** and the VDLs at 76**. 
With the ex-Yorkshire Tempos, their Yorkshire numbering (1300-1312) sort of fit in to the NE system... before the Belmont Darts. Even with the addition of the Tiger ones if that ever to happen.



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28 Jun 2017, 11:20 am #78
YX17 NNO - 7541
YX17 NNR - 7543
YX17 NNT - 7544

Are the fleet numbers displayed inside the vehicles.

[Image: 35586893875_c0d32a4b59.jpg]
BRAND NEW: Arriva Northumbria: 7544 | YX17 NNT by Tom, on Flickr

Further photos of the delivery of three new Sapphire vehicles are available on my Flickr.
Edited 28 Jun 2017, 11:27 am by omnicity4659.
omnicity4659
28 Jun 2017, 11:20 am #78

YX17 NNO - 7541
YX17 NNR - 7543
YX17 NNT - 7544

Are the fleet numbers displayed inside the vehicles.


[Image: 35586893875_c0d32a4b59.jpg]
BRAND NEW: Arriva Northumbria: 7544 | YX17 NNT by Tom, on Flickr

Further photos of the delivery of three new Sapphire vehicles are available on my Flickr.

28 Jun 2017, 1:15 pm #79
(28 Jun 2017, 11:20 am)omnicity4659 YX17 NNO - 7541
YX17 NNR - 7543
YX17 NNT - 7544

Further photos of the delivery of three new Sapphire vehicles are available on my Flickr.

7543/4 must have been the two delivered this morning then.


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RBZ 5459
28 Jun 2017, 1:15 pm #79

(28 Jun 2017, 11:20 am)omnicity4659 YX17 NNO - 7541
YX17 NNR - 7543
YX17 NNT - 7544

Further photos of the delivery of three new Sapphire vehicles are available on my Flickr.

7543/4 must have been the two delivered this morning then.



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28 Jun 2017, 1:25 pm #80
(28 Jun 2017, 1:15 pm)RBZ 5459 7543/4 must have been the two delivered this morning then.

That's correct, they had arrived about 30 min before I arrived.
omnicity4659
28 Jun 2017, 1:25 pm #80

(28 Jun 2017, 1:15 pm)RBZ 5459 7543/4 must have been the two delivered this morning then.

That's correct, they had arrived about 30 min before I arrived.

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